How does the Aviator Cub compare against the real vintage amps?
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Pat goes through a 1960 Tweed, a 1962 Bandmaster (Blonde) and a 1965 BlackFace deluxe reverb both on the bench and side by side with a guitar. Tell us your thoughts!
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Pat Quilter is a genius, I was a tube amp snob several years back until I played a quilter…..now I use quilters for the most part when I use an actual amp and other times I use digital modelers. Another amazing analog solid state amp is the orange super crush 100 built by Ade Emsley….another circuit wizard. All this stuff is so interesting to me, it makes me want to attempt an amp build.
I purchased a US Aviator Cub a few months back. Here in Australia, there’s no retailer in my state so I had to take a chance using you tube videos as my only reference source.
Initially, I thought it sounded a bit boxy. After several loud rehearsals, it really opened up and now I love the thing.
I’m actually thinking of selling it and buying a Mach 3. I like the idea of all the different voicing’s and having two channels. Either way, the Cub is one impressive lightweight amp.
the big upside of my 3 quilter amps, is that they LOVE preamp pedals and overdrive.
I run a Tumnus and an 805 into my pro block. So good👍👍
Thank you, Pat. It's been a while. Nice to hear your voice again.
The science & engineering aspects of these videos is excellent, interesting & I've learned a lot.
I love my Cub amp.!. Versatile & sounds great.
Great company, great people, great products 👍👍
Thank you so much for doing this. I am learning so much about my new amp. Fascinating.
Love these videos!! The demos are nice but these videos are why I'm subscribed!!! Thanks Pat
Just ordered a cub yesterday. Really excited
Quilter Amps rock ! Period , great pedal platform, decent OD tones . I have the Aviator head and the Mach2 10in speaker! Every where I go, they’re like what is that big sound coming from that small amp?… Pat Quilter great customer service 💯👍🏾🔥🔥👏🏾✊🏾🤘🏾👀👀😝
LOVE my Quilter 101 Reverb ........Going to get this Aviator Cub also
Awesome sounds! Great amp, lots of tones for these era amps.
Pat is the coolest guy, also so nice, I've emailed him a few times and he's had great responses. How cool is that??
Dr. Frankenstein of the amplifier world. You make the best stuff in the world man. I run a tumnus into a Seymour Duncan 805 into a KSR Ceres into a Quilter Pro Block. Oh man! What can't i play with a set up like that. Got a couple other things in the effects loop and then into a v30 and H creamback 2x12. So good👍
Mr Quilter.. You have a Incredible ear. Thank You.
Quilter killin it. The Cub is my next amp... it'll be the dry in a wet/dry rig with my Micropro HD.
got a cub… really liking it.
It would be interesting to compare each amp with each amp’s speaker. I suspect the speaker on the Tweed is played in quite a bit and would sound different from the Quilter speaker regardless of which amp was driving it.
Pat Quilter is a wizard!! Love all my Quilters and I'm definitely GAS'ing for the Aviator Cub.
I was always a tube amp person, but after lugging heavy amps back and forth, I decided to give this solid state amp a try. I got the Aviator Cub about a month ago and I couldn't decide if I liked it initially; it just responds differently than a typical tube amp. Now, I am completely IN LOVE with this amp! The tweed and black inputs sound amazing. The blonde channel isn't my thing but it does sound pretty good. It's a great, affordable, and lightweight option for any guitarist. Great job, Quilter Amps!
Same for me - I played one this summer and was sold. I've been loving it - great for recording too. When I sell off my Vox amps I'll add The Cub UK for my dual amp setup I think.
Gosh, that amp is so cool!
I just got rid of my fender drri for the aviator cub. I was so impressed and shocked. Finally don’t have to worry about tubes
Thinking about doing the same. I won't be sorry???
@@paulwarren8936 just sold my 2002 DRRI with a Weber Ferromax in it for the Aviator Cub. Played my first gig with it last night and it sounded incredible. Ran it on the Tweed channel with the bass and mids pushed and it gave me such a huge tone without sounding congested! Beyond that, I used the DI out instead of mic’ing it and I had plenty of compliments on the tone
@@thomastucker5686 I know have a collection of JFET powered preamps (a Music Man, Ampeg, Sunn Model T, working on a Vox next) that I just run into the effects loop (using just the power amp) based on the sound that I need that evening and I’m set!
My lattest piece of gear ! Being a Bluesman is not about having expensive CS Strats or fragile, expensive and heavy weight tube amplifiers ... unless worrying about all those expensive gears is at the origin of having the blues, for some musicians ! I have sold all my expensive F****r guitars and amplifiers, and since I play on Reverend guitars and Quilter amps, I feel more confident since I play with more reliable gears : roasted mapple neck and locking tuners help me stayi in tune, no valves small combo help me keeping my back in shape, I am an happy bluesman now ! Thanks Quilter
These new “solid state-computer” based amps like the Blonde Fender Deluxe Reverb Tone Master are amazingly close to the original…definitely close enough for me!
That oscilloscope session was very interesting! I thought the sounds during the A/B amp tests were closest with clean tones and quite different with distortion. For many years I gigged with a 1985 Sessionette 75 (UK tranny amp), then sold that and bought a Fender BDR, which is superb, but heavy. If I ever get back to gigging post-Covid, I'll probably go back to lightweight solid-state, and will check out this Quilter amp.
My BD10TC BlockDock 10TC is on its way!!!
Would love to hear Gilad Hekselman demo one of these.
I'd like to see what setting were used on the Cub, particularly how much the limiter was used.
well, I'm a Quilter guy, so I was half sold befoe watching this. 100% now.
I just played a strat and Tele through one of these at Guitar Center and the real magic in this amp is in the out of phase pickup with slightly dirty amp settings. It sounds almost better than my 65' bandmaster but I do think the higher gain settings are not comparable to my 65' cranked. Those light dirt and clean settings, especially on the Tweed are just amazing though. The reverb is amazing as well, very vintage Fender worthy and actually better than spring style, sounds more like hall reverb. Long story short both me and the sales clerk were looking for the tubes. I literally have never heard or thought a solid state could sound this good. It projects better than my 65' as well.
It's pretty subjective but to my ears the quilter sounds better than the black face, the brown faces are about equal, and the tweed sounds better than the quilter. Of course the Q is much more versatile. I own a 57 deluxe, a 65 deluxe reverb, and an aviator single 8" amongst others. I do all my gigging w/the Q or a roland blues cube artist. Pre covid, that is, and hopefully again soon. Great vid! I'd probably buy a cub if I didn't already have the others.
It's a shame what our rulers have done to us over the last two years
Somebody get Pat an A/B switch
Was the same process used for the Aviator Cub UK? Very interested in these amps. Seem to be very high quality.
Love these detailed looks at your products. Why is the low mid band (200-500) undesirable? Is it that unavoidable coloration from the cab/driver makes that band cluttered, or is it a more fundamental thing to guitar? E.g. It just sounds better to scoop out the mids on notes where the fundamental is in that cut band, so open G B & E.
I wonder how this would sound with a traditional or surfybear reverb tank I bet it would be much closer. Also the difference in speaker and cab cannot be understated.
Sounds great! If it was under $300 I’d think about getting one. I don’t need to haul an amp around constantly so I’m good with the original version. :-)
Check out the Superblock US. Same voicings as the Cub and it's $250. 25 watts to a cab and balanced XLR line out. Also has a headphone jack for quiet playing.
I just got the Superblock US. Bought it at Quilter’s new HQ! Phenomenal amp. Love the pedal form factor.
If amp manufacturers followed this process tube amps would’ve ceased to exist a long time ago. The tracked response on the quilter was close to the vintage tube amp which was interesting to me. Theres no reason for companies like fender to keep making pos tube amps like the hot rod or the blue junior other than marketing and price gouging for pc board amps. Even their all digital amps are way over priced for what you get and they are no where near the quilter. The quilter is what the tone masters should’ve been. I swear fender should hire quilter for consultancy because they were pretty close. It also wouldn’t be the first time Fender matched the tone of its classics in solid state format and on that occasion they had products designed by Paul Rivera. I’d like to see a perfectly replicated super reverb like this. But unfortunately tube snobs run the market.
sounds incredible' who makes that guitar?
This amp will retire my Blues Junior to rehearsal duties when I get it next week!
How did you make out with the Quilter?
@@MrAMF50 The Quilter is the only amp I need. Having either owned or played Tweed, Blonde, and Black Fenders, the Aviator Cub nails those tones puts out 50 watts and weighs 21#. As good as it is I have now made it perfect by adding a Nocturne Brain El Pescadoro preamp and Analog Alien Rumble Seat pedal. Doesn't get any better than that for Dawn Patrol's Surf, Spy,
Rockabilly, Jazz, and Blues music.
I bought a microblock 45 yesterday. What cabinet do you recommend for it? I'm not smart when it comes to ohm's and watts...lol. I know the speaker has to be more than the amp but other than that I don't know.
Wow!
25:30 the quilter amp is actually better than that fender tube amp in overdrive. impressive
I've played one and my impression is that it sounded better than some of the amps it's emulating!
In the blackface channel the Quilter Aviator Cub definitely has more clarity. I just got a Quilter 101 Reverb amp for Christmas. And I love it! Once I discovered Quilter amps, I liked that they can interact well with electric and acoustic guitars. I immediately ditched my Fender Blues Juniors and my Fishman Loudbox. I now totally swear by Quilter Amplification.
Could you please tell me how you run your acoustic guitars into the Quilter & which model?
@@nudiemusic I don't think the Aviator Cub can handle acoustic guitars very well
@@lightnintrucker thanks for your reply. So which model are you using in lieu of the Fishman loudbox?
I am usin' the 101 Mini Reverb
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I’m thinking about buying this amp. If I can ask a question? Where in the signal path is the fx loop placed . Is it before or after the reverb?
I just got one of these amps, saw your question and tested. I recorded straight out of the send with the reverb up, and there was no reverb on the recording, so I think that means the FX loop is before the reverb. Hope that helps!
I’m sorry but the live head-to-head comparison between the cub and the tweed deluxe with that kid playing guitar, sound nothing alike. Maybe when they’re clean but when you started ramping up the volume the cub couldn’t hang. It sounded scooped and congested. The tweed deluxe was open and present.
I really wanted to like this. A friend of mine who is an amazing professional guitar player bought one recently and he loves it. He uses the blackface channel. I’m at Tweed Guy, and just going from what I’m seeing in this video, it’s not there yet. Especially the gained up stuff.
Having said all of that, it’s not that it sounds terrible, it’s just that it doesn’t sound very close to a tweed deluxe when cranked.
sounds like the mids and the high on the quilter could be adjusted to match the tweed. how do these take pedals? overdrive or chorus
They love pedals. Great platform
As someone posted earlier high quality SS amps like this Cub sound so close.... until you dime the amps as that seems to still be out of reach right now. Certainly not a deal breaker as there's so many practical benefits and most of our playing dimed days are long gone. Being free of vintage tube amps and all the issues with them is a beautiful thing.
what guitars are those? the amp sounds killer!
Nice. Anyone have a TB202 and getting this new Aviator Cub as well?
Greetings Pat ......just wondering about how 'broken in' that Aviator Cub speaker is ?
Is it a test amp with lots of hours on it or new off the line ? Thanks
Looks like I'm going to buy another Quilter amp now.
Blonde vs Blonde is indistinguishable!
Does the Aviator Cub have an attenuator so you can play them at home/
The master volume.
I’m fear of being booted out of the club, I have to ask… Can I run a bass into this without damaging anything..? I play guitar & bass at gigs and I’m trying to simplify my load in/out… Cheers..! 👍🍻🇺🇸
You could fit the Quilter Interbass and either the Superblock US or UK on one pedal board
@@DanPaquin1 Could you run the Superblock US as a pedal into the FX of another amp, say a Roland JC 55? ... just asking for a friend, lol.
@@henrygregor7336 hmmm not sure. I suggest emailing Quilter that question.
On the Cub what is the cabinet made of ??
I also am curious, guessing it's poplar or birch plywood.
I think the Cub sounds better, more consistent. I'm very interested in your line. I'm playing internationally and the form factor of your gear is revolutionary.
Why is the back panel upside down ?
So it can be read right side up from in front of the amp.
@@jfinester I was referring to the 'door' !! with the vent holes the wrong way it's dangerous....
Come up.
*Clean Blonde*
9:27 Aviator Cub
9:08 Fender Tweed
10:10 Aviator Cub
9:49 Fender Tweed
*Clean Brown*
23:50 Aviator Cub
23:40 1962 Bandmaster
*Hot Brown*
24:10 Aviator Cub
24:02 1962 Bandmaster
25:03 Aviator Cub
24:38 1962 Bandmaster
25:42 Aviator Cub
25:32 1962 Bandmaster
26:19 Aviator Cub
26:09 1962 Bandmaster
*Clean Black*
33:13 Aviator Cub
32:51 1965 Deluxe Reverb
34:00 Aviator Cub
33:46 1965 Deluxe Reverb
*"Jangly" Black*
34:40 Aviator Cub
34:28 1965 Deluxe Reverb
34:48 Aviator Cub
34:52 1965 Deluxe Reverb
35:04 Aviator Cub
35:10 1965 Deluxe Reverb
35:54 Aviator Cub (Cleaner and more musical because of a non distorting speaker)
35:40 1965 Deluxe Reverb (Speaker giving up: some consider this "part of the sound"... which baffles me, personally)
*Distorted Black*
In TAKE 1 the distortion quality and frequency of both amps was noticeably different: Cub sounds more boxy with very different mid-highs range and roundness, much more like an AC type of amp than a Deluxe type. Probably the Cub UK idea started there (just like the original ACs did at its time... )😂
36:16 Aviator Cub (TAKE 1)
36:07 1965 Deluxe Reverb
36:32 Aviator Cub (TAKE 2)
*Final Thoughts*
I hope this helps everybody!
Very great of Mister Quilter allowing an aspiring musician to appear in his official videos. That's something big companies never dare to do even though this is their main market! Pat Quilter is blatantly authentic, just like the sound of his amps. Someone with good touch and sense of purpose would actually make the amps sound pretty identical, or if you are just beginning and don't want the cleaner and more dynamic Quilter's transients to be as noticeable:
*1.* Turn Up the gain and apply Limiter as needed.
*And/Or*
*2.* Add a soft compression pedal with short attack (swell).
That'll do!
Give me the fender for sure
The Fender style tones are easy to replicate with solid state amps, the Marshalls not so much!
I got the Superblock US. It breaks up great. Just played it in a jam session with a loud drummer. I was really pleased. One of the other players had a Marshall 100 watt head and a 2 x 12. As his “grab and go” set up. For me, this Quilter pedal/amp is more than good enough for me.
Who wants british sounds
The tube has been superseded....at last!!!!
The blonde and deluxe were pretty much the same, the tweed not so much.
I think the quilter sounds better than the deluxe actually
With all due respect, the guitarist falls short. I think the amp can sound much better🤘🏻👍🏻
Rule #1: It's never the amp's fault. 😂
That covid mask.The rock,jazz,and blues legions were seldom cautious when they were young,but not many lived to be old.
I have the U.S . 25w block.A 80lb head or combo is unessary in modern times.P.A. systems have improved over the past 50 years.
@J Slikbeer At least 4×12 cabinets have wheels.
It seems like he EQ'd the Quilter with too much high end.
To all headphone wearers, buh bye eardrums.
Too bad The guy wasnt really playing anything valid.I would like to hear him actually play some licks when they cranked it up..Cant tell much with a power chord...I bought one anyway..
lose the mask