🔥Testing Ortlieb's NEW Bikepacking Handlebar Bag!🔥
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- Review of the new Ortlieb Handlebar Pack QR bag and its new innovative mount!
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I love your reviews they’re always top notch and cover pros and cons in a way that is easy to understand.
I definitely agree that some form of mounting system like this for other bag manufacturers would be awesome.
I´ve been using it for 2 years now and am absolutely happy with it. 100% recommend it. It packs my MS Surface pro easily. One downside maybe that my LIV devote gravelbike (S) is tiny and the bag sometimes does rub on the tire, if the terrain is crazy. But as all Ortlieb products this can be easily repaired. I have never had a handle bar pack as satisfying as this one!
THANK YOU!!! I could not figure out how to install this pack with the Ortlieb video tutorial but I could with yours!👏💪
I was making lunch while listening and had to rewind to make sure the price was right. I’m glad it’s not $860! Looks like a great bag for my needs.
Thank you. This is just what I was looking for. It’s between this and the road runner bag.
Thanks, PLP, for another great review!
Thanks! Very thorough review. I’m considering this one, especially since I have Ortlieb panniers. I’ll definitely take all this into consideration.
The mounting systems looks like it came off of an old windsurfer. We use to tie the booms to the masts instead of the clamps they use now. Genius! Also glad to hear you are a Voile strap fan. One of the best straps ever invented! Let you fans know, all of Montana is bear country! Cheers!
It's like their usual handlebar mount with the wire, minus the aggravation when you overtighten it and squish the wire, trapping the mount on your handlebars until you destructively remove it. Quite clever.
I'd love to see what the mechanism looks like on the inside, and what it would be like to replace the cords.
Have it, seems really stable and it is easy to attach. If the cords hold up its a great bag.
Whoa! That is a serious bag. Great review as always.
This bag seems really practical and useful.
Great review!! Like the simple concept of the roll top with the 2 side extras. For touring, I see the mount to be more cumbersome. Still appreciate the klixfix concept solely for the ease of attaching and removing. On tours especially solo, it’s unavoidable to have to leave the Bike for errands. Imagine if you have to go no. 1 or 2 urgently. There is already the time spent fiddling to get the Bike locked. And with this, have to fiddle more to get the handlebar bag off.
It’s nice to just be able to press a button and remove the handlebar bag and go. Would be awesome if they make a version compatible for those clip-on mounts though but maybe 11kgs will be way too heavy for those mounts to handle. 😁
awesome stuff as always!
It's good to see you're getting out on your Bombora. Hope all is well.
Ortlieb makes great stuff. I love my gravel panniers!
I will definitely look at this one when my Bontrager bar bag bites the dust.
The Ortlieb mount system appeals to me, as I have big time strength and pain issues with both of my thumbs, and my current bag's mount straps are almost impossible for me to move from bike to bike on my own.
That mounting system looks like updated version of the style lone peak used. The lone beak has a small tension cord that would keep the bag from sagging, it works surprisingly well but was a huge pain to set up haha.
I’d love to see a larger version of this, Ortlieb!
You had me at the con "sad-looking". Gotta love sad bags.
Excellent review 👏 very interested in this bag.
Soooo cool - I'm getting one!
Wow! What a killer bag! Thank you for bringing this into my awareness. This looks like a product that one would end up using way more than anticipated. I'm loving it.
Btw, you're looking great, man! Losing weight? New haircut? Either way, I hope you and the misses are well. Loving the content
Thanks for the review. Just spent 5 bikepacking days on some really rough gravel and the bag stayed solidly connected. Shocking, given the bumping and banging! I couldn’t attach a light, but otherwise really impressed.
Enjoyed the video! Keep it up :)
Something like this but with boa dials for tensioning would be cool.
Similar to the KlickFix Oversize-Lenkeradapter which uses the same reverse leverage. You can use any bag with their backing plate attachments.
Great review! I'm cheap and don't think the bags price is that bad when you consider its size, premium construction, and innovative mounting system. Also, it looks like the little lock lever is a cam buckle which puts most of the load on the mount itself rather than the lever. If I'm right it should last as long as the pivot can handle the cam forces during attachment.
A contrasting bright colored interior would be a great improvement. Brands like Mountain Hardware and others have utilized this feature. Another dark cavernous bag is disappointing.
That might be good for air travel to places where I'll rent a bicycle, if it collapses enough to fit in my luggage. I've been using an Arkel large handlebar bag for 17 years now (I'm now on my 2nd one) but it's a no-go for air travel whether or not I'm flying with my own bicycle (folding or regular).
I use cantilever brakes so handlebar bags can interfere with the cables.
This attachment would work like a charm.
Looks interesting - shock cord webbing on the front like their bike packing bar bag would have been nice.
@Gaynor Lewis, no, this is the new handlebar bag. I was comparing it to their older design which Ortlieb call a handlebar bag which happens to be generally used for bikepacking
Thanks! The black abyss... wish more manufacturers would make the interior a nice bright color. Bungee cords last less than a year down here in the desert southwest... and it seems too floppy given the volume it's meant to hold. Too complicated...
Nice review.
Thank you for sharing
That's an interesting design, and it frees up the "climbing grip" space on the handlebars (@6:12), so I'll probably give it a try once I get over the $160 price tag (Wowza!). Thanks for the recommendation!
PS: Your New Bag Info link on the video description is broken (or not yet valid, given this is a new bag).
PPS: From observing how the attachment works, I'm guessing the quickest way to get the bag level with load is to attach the first/upper loop, add the load if not already, adjust the first/upper loop tension to angle the bag slightly upwards, and then attach and tension the second/lower loop to level the bag as the last step.
Liking the Sinn 556A!
A cradle using this mounting system could also be cool.
Impressively large bag, though the attachment is a fair bit more complex than the "InBike" handlebar bag I've been using on my commuter / rec riding bike. I haven't had to subject it to rough descents or anything though, hah.
Nice attachment mechanism! Do you notice any signs of wear on some of the hard plastic parts or even on the handlebar?
I guess you could further reduce bag movement with some kind of silicone tape around the handlebar at the attachment position?
Was doing dishes while off and on watching this, and was like, I need to rewind this, 860 dollars!? Good I misheard that.
Still the price is relatively high. Their Ultimate Six 7l bag is USD 60.00 cheaper.
I’d really like this idea to get my tops back.
Good points all around, especially about the plastic mounts. Found the bag on the Ortlieb website. However, the link provided gives an error message. Thanks.
I've found this bag to be particularly useful on small bikes, and on bikes with cantis - since the mount holds it out front, and it doesn't require a head-tube strap that would press up against cable housing, like many other bags.
Long time follower and partypace supporter! Seeing the waterbottle in the side of the bag made me wonder when you're going to stock partypace branded waterbottles in the PLP shop?! (Ideally branded on the specialized brand you're already using!) I've branded my own with partypace stickers but it's not quite the same!
Think one would be able to fit the tent body, fly, and footprint from the Nemo DF2 BP in there? Because that would solve a LOT of my problems…
As a newcomer to the PNW (from the UK), I notice the bear spray. Any chance of a video on riding in bear country?
I wish they'd develop a rigid QR system that hold the bag below the "eyeline" of the handlebar. Tired of my Classic 6 blocking lights, cameras etc.
Hi there !
thanks a lot for your channel and this review ! If you had to choose between this new handlebar pack QR and the the classic handlebar one (9L) combined with a 3.5L accessory pack ? I like the new one because you can reach your stuff easily at the top but it seats a bit higher than the classic one so it affects the mounting of a front light ....
cheers from France
Now that Ortlieb has released this cordage system in a klickfix adapter (e241), it should be possible to use this with a wide range of other manufacturers bags.
Hi Russ and Laura!
That double-take when I heard “bear spray”... and then “oh, right. Montana”
I was thinking, why does he have a fire extinguisher? Haha
Cool bag and great video, Russ. Now, is that a Sinn 656? 😂
I wanted to hear more about swimming with the bike
I just tested this bag and really wanted it to work for my gravel bikepacking purposes.... but it won't. I think for riders that are going on asphalt or totally smooth gravel, this bag will be fine. However, for anything with sustained bumps ('medium' gravel) I'd pass on this bag. The mounting system is cool and actually works very well. The problem is that there's a large volume to the bag and it lacks any extra strap to stabilize it to the frame as found on the bottom of many other handlebar bags (Apidura frontloader, Ortlieb handlebar roll pack, etc). What this means is that when going over any bumps, the mounting plate stays firm, but the rest of the bag jostles pretty violently up and down. I think over any significant distance over uneven ground this bag (or its contents) would be toast. If you check out 0:32 on Ortlieb's own video titled "Bikepacking with the ORTLIEB Handlebar-Pack QR" you'll get a sense of what I mean... and they're riding pretty gently. They say they don't recommend this bag for MTB.... I would hesitate to use it for gravel riding.
I’ve used it for months and it works fine and totally depends on your load. Would I put a camera in there? Probably not. Extra layers and food and some bear spray 💯
That is, in principal, exactly how the regular Orltieb handlebar bag attachment to a handlebar works but without the plastic jacketed cable and tension screw.
I personally prefer the Ortlieb Ultimate 6. That way you can keep all the stuff that you might use while the bike is in motion in the same spot.
Hi Rus, thanks for a great review. I reached out to my online retailer to enquire if Ortliebs accessory pack will attach to this bag, they advised that yes it would.
Can you confirm if this is so as you didn't include it in your review I am left wondering if it actually does.
Many thanks. Peace n pedalin'.
Main positive for me i freeing up hand space!
I bought and sold this bag a year ago. My problem is the bag lacked any organisation system. Also, I didn't find the attachment system as practical / easy to put on my bike. It worked, yes, the main issue for me being its lack of organization. I prefered a Restrap model.
thank you for the review. do you know where I can find one?
would love this kind bag a little smaller.
Russ! What saddle are you running on the crust these days? Looks comfy!
Excellent. I am in the market for something like this
supercool
Any calculated guess as to if this bag would work with the raised Jones Bars ? :-)
Hi I am looking for a update on this bag now over a few months of use. Does it continue to hold up?
I was listening, not looking at my screen I thought you said $860 and I was like 😯
Bought it and ran it around on my rigid 2008 Caffeine F3, hitting some gravel roads, semi-chunky utility lines, some 12" drops, and general tomfoolery with the bag fairly full to test.
I found the loaded bag changed the handling of the front wheel more than I expected (kinda lagged my turning) and certainly didn't improve the handling like the front bag does on a Brompton. Didn't bounce much on the small drops and didn't fly open.
Plenty of capacity for repair kit, jacket, pull over, first aid kit, mini-pump, 2 tubes, and snacks. May or may not fit one cat.
I am not sure I'd commute with this unless I can park the bike inside or in a secure space. This can easily be stolen or cut open. Unhooking is not nearly as easy as the Ortlieb panniers or the Brompton bag I regularly use so my tendency would be to leave it on the bike and therefore this seems more for useful for the intended bikepacking jaunts.
Nice review! Although I feel that the bag might be a wee bit small to take a canister of Drop Bear Spray. Another challenge created by Australia’s vast pantheon of dangerous animals.
How much clerance from the handlebar to the tire when the bag i packed? I ride at small frame I only got 20 cm clerance.
I’m also interested in knowing
How can I mount this with my: Garmin Edge 840; handlebar mounted headlight; handlebar mounted cell phone holder; etc? We all really need some auxiliary bar to mount all the stuff that wants to live in the cockpit handlebar space these days.
Nice bar end plugs! Mind sharing the manufacturer?
Great bag! Doesn't it scratch the handlebars?
Hi
Recently I bought a mountain bike with D lock and chain lock (use them together while commuting) but found them very heavy to carry on my BackRack. Wonder if there's handlebar bag can accommodate both locks in, please advise, thanks on advance.
Try Restrap Bar Pack
Klickfix system is much better for me... Just put an adaptor on each bike you have then its so easy to put the bag on and off. This looks like it would scuff the bars quite a bit (which wouldn't happen with the klickfix system)
Any thoughts about how to use a headlight with a bar bag?
No idea, just bought my bike and the guy at the shop sold me the bag and a light, but no chance they work at the same time.
Or a bike computer. Seems like they would both get used in the same trip. Path Less Traveled has a stem cap mount which always looks precarious and bumpy to me.
@@TheRflynn I have no problem using my bike computer on an upfront mount, in conjunction with my bar bag. It does make access a little bit more difficult, but it works OK. But the computer doesn’t care if the bar bag comes up in front of it, which is definitely a problem with the light.
@@jimmccorison Turns out that my Garmin came with few mounts. One is an articulated mount that raises the Garmin above the bar height, in contrast to the K Edge which puts the Garmin in a lower (more aero?) position. My Exposure lights can be mounted upside down which might work. Also look up There the Gino by Paul Components, Origin8 do something similar.
@@TheRflynn I saw the Gino a few months ago. It looks like a leading contender. I'm using the Bontrager Flare lights with the remote. That combination would work well with the Gino. I frequently ride bike paths that are a mix of road and path and don't like to use a flashing front like on the paths. The remote allows me to easily turn it on and off.
🤩 wow great gear, thank you Russ!
Did you mention the width of your handlebar? Seems like I overheard it. ☺️
May get a little tight for us old school narrow bar riders I fear...
Bars in the vid are 46.
@@PathLessPedaledTV excuse me mates, because you're discussing other details in the video, may i ask what bike it is and what top tube bag? (apologize in advance if you said it and it escaped me). About bar width, I'm large and switched to a 75 walmer bar, which is great to have kinda both a flat bar and a drop in the same bar hehe. But somehow, i miss also the old, non-flared, 42 that i had stock in my tourer. So i second the question above. Thank you guys, good to learn! PLP great vids, i'm so jeally of all your gear and chances!!! Hehe :)
@@dorianblue4229 Crust Bombora. Rogue Panda half frame bag.
@@PathLessPedaledTV so kind. thank you so much! Always supercool to learn here. Thanks :)
I have the bag mounted on 40cm bars. There's enough room for the bag and all hand positions but can't fit a water bottle into the side pockets. They still work nicely for granola bars though.
Cool. Link still not live on the Ortlieb site.
Yeah I just noticed that also. And it's not on the REI website either. I have dollars left over to spend and this is perfect for that.
Question, will it interfere with the quad lock placed on the stem? Great video thank you for your hard work.
Yes
Thank you for the clear easy instructions on fastening bag. Better than the ortlib video. Zero learning curve bc of ur vid.
I like the hardware. The flat buckles are like those on my Rogue Panda frame bag.
does the bag bounces while driving over uneven terrain?
Is there enough space for macbook M1 13"? :)
Think There would be space for cyclocross top of the handlebar brake levers?
No.
At 3:10, you can see that the fabric is stretched tight over the internal part of the harness (around the top left bolt). The internal structure should have had a greater curvature radius to allow the fabric the stretch evenly. In this configuration with too much weight... I don't know it feels like it would puncture...
I have blought and tested this bag. The attachment system is nice (you need 2-3 times to get used to it though), but after a few tries, I sold it back. Why? Well, no possibilities of putting a shoulder strip to it, which is really a pity for a urban type front bag. The content is also limited, with no inside pocket. Ortlieb could have put more thoughts and functionality in this bag. I have other Ortlieb back bags, which I like.
@path less pedal.. Can you attach the ortlieb accessories bag to it
No. Would drag too low.
I'm looking for a front bag for my commuter but I think they missed the mark. I have ortleib's for my rear rack and they are great. Ortleib's strength is it's really easy latching system that lets you simply lift the bag off the rear racks. If they did the same thing for the front, they would have a winner. Instead they have this mess of lines. Who has the time to latch that every day before going to work? Someone needs to come up with a latchable system that ideally connects to the frame itself and can be simply lifted off like the ortleib rear panniers.
It already exists. Ortlieb Ultimate Six.
Nice bag. Thank goodness we don't need bear spray in Australia!
Just substitute in a can of aerogard....😜
@@bonesx165 😂😂😂
Are the mounting cords replaceable if they wear ?
Good question. Not sure.
@@PathLessPedaledTV For what it's worth, I've been able to get lots of different replacement parts for my Ortlieb commuter panniers. They generally sell "parts." I'd be surprised if they didn't for this.
Do you think it will work with the red shift suspension stem?
Yes
@@PathLessPedaledTV Thanks! I really like my ortlieb front bag I have for my Surly LHT. I've had it for 10 years without issue, except that you can't go from bike to bike without buying another mounting plate.
What is the weight limit? Specially with those cords
5 kg (11 lb)
Russ, do you think this bag would be good for carrying a DSLR with a small prime lens and a DJI Mini drone?
👍👍👍👍👍
What’s that pink thing on your seat rails?
Bag loops.
Russ, your reviews are so good that when I visit a mfr’s website, I struggle to find 1/3 as much useful info about the product (as I find on your vids).
Your PayPal address suits me best for donations.
I hope you two thrive in Spain.
One last thing: your channel has been filling the giant hole left by the demise of the Rivendell Reader. And to be fair to you, your channel is OVERFILLING that hole - which is great for us.
Are you on Strava?
Link not working. I’m not even sure what to call this bag.
Is it actually available to mere mortals yet?
Hi, is it possible to carry a 14 inch laptop in the bag?
No.