Finding meaning at the quantum level
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- Kmele steps inside Fermilab, America’s premiere particle accelerator facility, to find out how the smallest particles in the universe can teach us about its biggest mysteries.
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According to Fermilab's Bonnie Flemming, the pursuit of scientific understanding is “daunting in an inspiring way.” What makes it daunting? The seemingly infinite number of questions, with their potentially inaccessible answers.
In this episode of Dispatches from The Well, host Kmele Foster tours the grounds of America’s legendary particle accelerator to discover how exploring the mysteries at the heart of particle physics help us better understand some of the most profound mysteries of our universe.
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00:00:00 - The Miracle of Birth
00:04:48 - Exploring the Universe's Mysteries
00:09:20 - Building Blocks of Matter and the Standard Model
00:13:35 - The Evolving Body of Knowledge
00:17:39 - Understanding the Early Universe
00:22:05 - Reflections on Particle Physics
00:25:34 - The Extraordinary Effort to Understand the Small
00:29:59 - From Paleontology to Astrophysics
00:33:40 - The Importance of the Scientific Method and Being Critical
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About Kmele Foster:
Kmele Foster is a media entrepreneur, commentator, and regular contributor to various national publications. He is the co-founder and co-host of The Fifth Column, a popular media criticism podcast.
He is the head of content at Founders Fund, a San Francisco based venture capital firm investing in companies building revolutionary technologies, and a partner at Freethink, a digital media company focused on the people and ideas changing our world.
Kmele also serves on the Board of Directors of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE).
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We are the universe experiencing itself. We are in it, and we are made of stardust. We are not made of anything outside of the universe. We are the consciousness of the cosmos.
That's the crazy part. We (the universe) are sitting here wondering why we even exist to begin with lmao. It's wild and makes 0 sense.
That's why I'm studying physics. Tryna figure out what the hell this is lol. Will probably end up more lost in the end but oh well
@@ProfShibe Well said. We are made up of all these systems and energies and matter, yet, we still need to find our own explanations as to how we are hear and how everything came to be,.
Clicked on video to know about atoms and quantum, didn't expect to be blasted in face with placenta talk
Lol it is an unexpected start 😅 if you guessed the word placenta would be in the video then you're a psychic... Or a liar 😅
The vid did say finding meaning.. that what you feel is out of place “the miracle of birth” expands on the meaning in a way but only intellectual ppl can see that
😂😂 me too
Uhhh… lol. Placenta? The umbilical cord? That’s essentially the basis of quantum theory… the universe & everything in it, as well as other universes & realities… are all interconnected in some way. The placenta was metaphorical metaphysics, demonstrated by way of bison. An ungulate. Now go research ungulates as it relates to evolution. Have fun 🕳️🐇
Did anyone else see a grateful dead skull "stealie" on the bottom right corner?
I'm so damaged. I generally don't leave my house. A series of calamities has stolen my zest for life. I'm a broken man, both figuratively and litteraly. But if I lived anywhere near Fermi lab even I would leave the house every day! Even if to just hang out in the cafeteria like a fly on the wall! I love physics! Especially partical physics!!! Unfortunately, I'm a simpleton. But I don't care! I still love it!
Wishing Fermi or cern were here in Florida! Or citrus county had a decent school...
Damaged is to me, unique battle scars. You can look back and say, wow, I got through that and are ready to take on the next thing. Don't sell yourself short.
I also struggle to get out n about. But if I lived in Florida I'd be out in the sun all day every day, sadly I live in a cold shitty country. I guess sometimes one persons hell is another persons paradise.
Dr Don is my favorite from Fermi lab. My doctor here in Florida worked there and went to Italy to build the borexino detector. We always have the best chats about reality and the big questions still facing physics and cosmology.
What about Oppie? Robert
Been to Fermilab many times. Ya, the Bison. Used to live in Chicago burbs.
@albertkirilov6921 wrong pal..... let's keep it classy....
This is everything for me. Wonderful journalism and story telling. Connected with me on every level. I loved the basis of a physics based question started with the thoughts of a dad and his daughter’s questions.
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It was a great video! Good host with interesting questions. He feels authentic. Also, great camera work and editing. Watched it like a movie. Thank you!
Thank you for the wonderful compliments! You are very appreciated!
18:40 Doga Kürkcüoglu really has all his attribute points in mathematics, and none in philosophy 😂. I know people like this. I'm glad this was left in, because I'm sure a lot of people like Kürkcüoglu are pioneers of theory and engineering. There could have been a language barrier situation happening here as well.
Please elaborate more what you mean
@@nesyfitria4610 some people's brains are wired for mechanical thought, other people's brains are wired toward philosophy and pondering on the relations between seemingly dissimilar themes. This is my belief.
I think he just kept it real lol. I'm a a graduate student studying theoretical physics, and some people don't like to think about the philosophy because they don't want to get side tracked with their main goal. Also it's quite difficult to think about the philosophy when the math is so abstract, it's better to shut up and calculate.
My native language is English, but I still don't know what people mean by the word meaning. I think that might be what he was glitching on. Meaning is a philosophical, mystical concept. Not very mathematical. L O L.
When people use the word "meaning", what I think they're saying is that some creator had some intent behind all of this existence, like there's some divine purpose to it. I can't expect scientists to do much with that.
Scientists solve philosophical questions. Philosophers are great at asking questions and formulating it in the best form. Science have a method for resolving debates that some people would prefer to just keep talking about
Great video on the type of stuff I ponder over all the time. It's incredible that so much money and effort goes into figuring this stuff out (though, I imagine most of the money comes from weapons or computing applications). Really enjoyed Kmele as host for his personality and thoughtfulness
Forgot his name but the maths guy who came up with assembly theory says that if the universe is fundamentally information then this right here right now is the biggest longest place we know of in relation to how it would look on a field of information. The connections and information created by life and then consciousness multiplex they're synergistic, exponential in there connection building, the growth of novelty if life is only here then the majority of the complex chemistry that exists is here right now and for all we can tell it could all turn to a lava milkshake again* if perturbed by the passing of a small planet or such. So it's probably good to appreciate how small the universe is but also from a scientific perspective imperically how far can our creative ego stretch, what's possible and countable.
Science, or better said, questioning, is one of the only thing that will make us humble enough to be able to solve our problems instead of keep destroying ourselves and everyone around us.
Kmele is an excellent host.
i am studying physics right now and videos like this keep my motivation high. inredible job kmele
This is such an honor! Thank you for your comment, and good luck with your studies!
"the important thing is to think of the right question." love this point.
Pay attention to Don’s skeptical scientific approach this is the key for evolution in science I can pretty much relate with this kind approach
Says she’s not a philosopher, gives one of the most philosophical answers next question. “There’s always more to learn, the important thing is to think of the next right question to be able to advance down the road”
So beautifully simple, and in this simplicity therein lies the sophistication! Bravissimo!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Hahahaha
For clarification it should be "Fermilab is attempting to describe reality that we perceive." Including the perception of the results of Fermilab. Unfortunately we don't perceive much.
I love this series so very much! I’m very grateful for the awe I experienced watching this
29:00 Correct, a tiny spec as we realize the magnitude of the Universe. But also, an intelligent tiny spec that is seeking to be conscious of its own nature, and may contain said Universe itself. A tiny spec that matters so much.
Finding meaning is difficult. Somehow there's layers you need to analyze to be able to piecer everything out and form a big picture. The world is unique for its shape and density and overall width. It carries the most important and vital essentials that all humans need to have in their respective lifetimes.
Very kind of you for disclosing these things digitally for whole world for satisfy their curiosity. Azeem Baloch
Your excitement is completely warranted ❤🎉❤ The gift of life is spectacular 🎉💖🙏 The babe is named after you. 🥰What an honor ❤
Love these long form videos ! we need more !!
It's nice knowing that the bison calf will remain with his mother, unlike cow calves who are taken at birth by the milk industry.
Don Lincoln is a gentleman and a scholar!
“If matter didnt exist we wouldn’t exist. so it kinda has to be true that bcoz we’re in a universe that we’re in, the laws have to allow for us to exist.”
really cool perspective 34:51
Looking at the galaxies shows quatum magnetic fields of physics as magnetic fields of forced pressure cycling circulation patterns as mass. Atoms are combined singularities at various internal pressure levels. Hydrogens magnetic field is the strongest magnetic field of the elements. As mass expands into occupational space, the magnetic fields get weaker but farther, reaching in distances.
It's scarily similar how Quantum looks like the universe. Atoms like galaxies, particles like planets etc.........
This video is so full of love . Very inspiring
We're so happy to hear this. Thank you so much for watching ❤
The scientific method, guys. It's good for everyone!
I think universe may not have any meaning.
We humans need to find a collective meaning which will not only work for us but also for all the species and future generations.
Because we are just temporary structures which are cease to decay(entropy).
I'm sure reasoning and rationality is the path for it.
so far rationality has failed to give humans meaning. the source of meaning is deeper than rationality and irrationality.
Was the lecturer wearing a Jerry Garcia neck tie?
@@viktorvaughn1079 You seem to expect that rationality will/can "give humans meaning." That is backwards. Rationality implicitly relies on meaning. We can be rational only if we understand, and "know" the meaning of some things. Meaning comes from observing, fully, detailed enough, to form a model of things. Our cognitive model (of the world) IS the meaning.
So, it extends from this, that only people who master rationality can ever even dream of finding Meaning.
Why do you say we “need to find” meaning? It seems probable we’ll keep existing as we are until we go extinct
Perhaps a perfect world would see a philosopher and a physicist being one and the same.
This was the case for hundreds of years. The separation is a modern distortion.
@@neildutoit5177 That perspective seems deeply cynical. Even today, at the top of any scientific field are philosopher-scientists. The topmost scientists are able to see what top philosophers see. And vice-versa.
When we look at anything/everything at the pinnacle of knowledge, science and philosophy still converge.
Sean Carrol, host of Mindscape has such a dual appointment & is quite interesting
The Word by which the Universe was made has become the standard model of particle physics. A distinction without a difference.
Great job , he asked good questions, and then, let them answer them
I know it might seem strange, but I feel something spiritual when thinking about quantum physics... We are all these absolutely small particles... And what else?
Outstanding!
Firmilab is one of the coolest places on earth!
Excellent video! Thanks 😊
Thanks for watching! ❤
Thank you
Great video thanks 🙏
Brilliant . . Thank you . 👍👍
Thank you for blowing minds
I think thier lack of fascination by life is due to thier acceptance of life we live so there is information we dont have. It is wild and amazing but they are undistracted by this fact.
Rumor has it that in the galactic civilization, we are a reality show.
I don't know much about these accelerators. How do they know they are just entering hydrogen particles in the tube? Is it purged of other particles first? How do they isolate just hydrogen? Can use launch other particles that have larger atomic numbers?
I guess it isn't easy or cheap otherwise it wouldn't be very impressive 😅
I'm amazed on seeing the way diff kinda ppl were so curious in the lec
What you already knew, I was sure that it's true. And I saw the eyes which are tearful.
Very nice show us more
That was amazing😍😍🤩🤩
With all these huge particle accelerators and what not, we might think we're doing something great, but actually we're nothing more than ants or microbes with a huge ego.
You say that like it’s a bad thing
Alan Watts had a good way of explaining what everything "is". This video reminded me of his talks
Wow, an incredible compliment. Thank you so much ❤
Damn, Ricardo can sculpt my interiors anytime
Nehilsm is the meaning and purpose
Money is not meant to control people, rather it is meant to be put to work producing more money for you. You cannot build wealth without putting money in its rightful place.
Now with the recent economy, To get Financial FREEDOM you have to be making money while you're asleep.
How can i align my path so that i could be a part of the John Templeton foundation? I want to work in this field
Im just a 16 yr old girl. My grades arent the best, im not the brightest star, my perception of the world is so narrow. And yet at the same time ive always understood and felt drawn to EVERYTHING. The little and big things of life. And i wanna learn and study and find out more.
Yes my pfp is fornite
But try asking them the most profound existential questions about their work: what are you really up to? what are the dark, dirty secrets that motivate you to get up every midnight to go to work?
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I'm more interested in the bison! =)
Why's physics important? Because if perspective can alter the math of some 2-particle interactions, until we nail down EVERY rule & datum possible about how that works, no physical "fact" at higher scales of complexity is 100%-to-the-nth-decimal true - which leaves immense wiggle room for any more-abstract "truth" to be called liar.
Quantum = no spatial extension (sub atomic)
Atomic = spatial extension
This is my second time watching an episode of this series. My biggest disappointment is when the interesting questions and conversations are interrupted with narration. I thought the same thing with the Santa Fe institute episode.
35:38 36:05
Can we manipulate atoms according to us?🤔
But we are also atoms...
but what about Superkamiokande?
I am surprised the presenter is still alive. Not wearing seatbelts, filming on private land and transpassing.
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Background music ???
18:42 This Doga Kurkcuoglu dude was on edge what’s going on ?
@yssode Dr. Lincoln explained what happened. It's the hyper-competitive world (even in science), whicw made the guy squeamish. He's a young scientist (who saw professional risks if he gave answers with even minor mistakes that his peers may catch). Dr. Lincoln is a seasoned senior scientist.
11:48
A BEAM...?!??
A beam of what ?
How?
Proton beam. Have you been paying attention? 😅
What if... Requiring a change of thinking, everything is actually the same size, but enveloped. Read that again. Then think about it. Then read it again.
What is that supposed to mean?
@@kibetk2223 we already, scientifically know that time isn't so linear. Now apply that to our perspective of size. Now things become much more interesting. Consider that the tiniest particles aren't tiny at all, but hidden deeper in matter giving us a false perspective of size.
@@dangerpudge1922 why would we apply that thinking to size though? We already have an objective definition of size for particles that can be confirmed through their collision cross-sections, wavelengths, scattering, etc. And small particles remain small even when isolated from the matter you describe them as enveloped in. What benefits come from this perspective shift?
@@kibetk2223 because it changes a presupposition which may unlock an entirety new relationship between particles, and quite frankly the idea of both string theory and quantum interactions suddenly become much more relatable since 'enveloping' assigns a relationship and the energy becomes relative in a very different way.
To dismiss the idea because it is outside of the dogma established is precisely what this article speaks to. The irony is thick.
As above, so below; as within, so without. I know that modern science considers alchemy to be psudoscience, but particle physiscs is to astronomy as modern science is to alchemy.
You cant say Life on Earth is not the center of creation. There is a small probability it actually is.
No point in the universe can be called the center because at large scale it’s very homogeneous. Every point is moving away from each other as space is expanding so there’s no point that’s not moving (like the center of a sphere would be).
@@chemquests well. In quantitative terms and in statistical you are right very likely. But. There might be a qualitative aspect to it. Hard or impossible to measure (yet). Maybe WE are the reason and vision of all eternal creation. Like it or not. It may be!
@@ErnestoSun of course one has to allow for maybe, but I put the credence in that claim pretty close to zero
@@chemquests I put it pretty high even being atheist. Simply because our timespace-horizon is so limited in terms of lightyears - we better tale care of this now. We see far with satélites, but its far past. The now is here and holy. I feel special as a human on Earth.
@@ErnestoSun if you’re an atheist, why would you use the term “holy”?
As an atheist I can’t imagine what you could mean by reason, vision, and creation. Those terms are devoid of content without a creator. Physics tells us it’s not possible to be eternal, entropy dictates a heat death.
I certainly agree with valuing the here and now because that’s what’s real and special. Any undetectable factor we have missed will by its nature be inconsequential, as it must have such a slight impact on everything else.
We exists...to recognize that there An Almighty Creator.
YHWH is He (or that) Which is. Call it Being. Whether it caused the universe or is one with it is another distinction without a difference.
Out there? Ever see a Preying Mantis? Haha!
Neil de Grasse Bison…
Thanks for the chuckle! 😆
Drug? I think you mean "dragged"
i wanna become a scientist
i want to learn more
i wanna learn more
i wanna fucking learn moooore
I feel the host cut off the physicist before he had a chance to answer. He was about to give an answer… then the host changed the question. Frustrating host, did not get good answers at all. Leaves it at the surface.
Love the host! Keeps you engaged
The host actually ruined it
"About The Well: Do we inhabit a multiverse? Do we have free will? What is love? Is evolution directional?" Great ques.... wait a minute, is this about promoting creationism? Definitely seems like creationism.
The problem with quantum mechanics is that the equations don't describe the system that they represent. Quantum mechanics transforms all physical waves and particles into mathematical waves of probabilities. The equations allow physicists to calculate where the particles are likely to be, or how they are likely to move toward a target.
These equations allow for building impressive things, like powerful lasers, integrated circuits with billions of Transistors, or some LEDs with impressive efficiencies. Also, they allow for building impressive materials like superconductors or make incredible quantum computers using particle entanglement. But if you ask the scientist what is really going on inside the device, he can't answer without calling for some philosophy, because the equations don't describe the system as it is; he doesn't know what the equations really describes. This is why he refused to provide an answer...
As Einstein used to say: Quantum Theory is magical nonsense thinking. Not even consequental thinking, more of a mathematical speculation. That QT guy in this video has no answers, thats honest after all.
Did I read the title wrong?
Spoiler, this video is about the anthropic principle
Anyone else feel like the people that didn’t answer the “bigger questions” is because the interviewer didn’t ask very good questions?
@quest-1-on I don't agree. Dr. Lincoln explained what happened. It's not that the questions were bad, but our competitive world (even in science) made the guy squeamish. He's a young scientist (who saw professional risks if he gave answers with even minor mistakes that his peers may catch). Dr. Lincoln is a seasoned senior scientist.
@@keep-ukraine-free528 I hear that. I should’ve been more precise with my original question. I didn’t mean to say that it was entirely the interviewers fault. I recognize the desire to be taken seriously and therefore avoid public discourse on speculation/philosophy/metaphysics.
That being said, I felt like the interviewer didn’t guide the experience very well. It didn’t feel like a natural progression to arrive at those deeper questions. That requires a lot of skill in communication.
Being able to evoke comfort, curiosity and in this specific context, clear distinctions between what is being done and why they’re doing it. The interviewer looked unprepared to deal with those dynamics. It’s as if he expected those topics to be easily expressed by everyone.
those damn bison keep procreating
... so pretty much, science is still "looking at something, observing it, and guessing a conclusion"... here's the equation every modern "scientist" leaves out :
Alpha+Omega = GoD
We know that scientists don’t know anything; but we have faith that they might discover something.
@Sadhguru
Big think videos are degrading.came here for quantum physics and watching Bisson names , placenta and people talking about history instead of quantum
The interview at 18:41 is all you need to know about 'freedom' in the USA. This guy is obviously scared shitless of telling the host about his faith (Muslim name) when asked about the deeper meaning of his work, of math, of reality. Americans, take note of the why such a highly educated man working in a top tier facility stammered like a man in a Soviet planning meeting.
I think you’ve misread him. I’m a scientist and would similarly respond incredulously. His question on some level is meaningless and certainly unscientific. Any answer would be complete speculation which scientists try to avoid. It’s better to just admit the boundary of our knowledge, what we can claim, and then shut up.
@@chemquests Many feel as you do on this issue, and its certainly a guess on both our part on what he is thinking. But if you were correct, I would assume he would give a much more relaxed answer along the lines of 'well, we leave that to the philosophers' or a more generic 'i have always been fascinated by how the universe works at its fundamental level', etc etc.
@@machinshin394we all had different takes on this, i thought maybe he was maybe on the autism spectrum and wanted to rigidly stick to the scientific facts over discussing emotions for that reason
Ugh... the cringe when everyone gets uncomfortable the moment they realize "oh wait this is a god thing?"
It's not cringe trying to understand your place in the universe
@@Pleasing_view its cringe because this channel attempts to promote god by pretending it isnt talking about god. This is a creationism channel pretending to be a channel about science.
Repetitive
🤮 - the beginning
Boring
Thought the same, gona learn about atoms. Instead felt this guys insecurities and weird line of questions to be not at all what this was about. And you could see the pain every person was going thru just trying to passively answer this idiots questions. With respect. Imsorry. Worst interview ever
You lost me when, after introducing this incredible scientific facility, you said you weren’t gonna tell us what it did and what they’ve learned, instead you were more interested in how the scientists ‘feel’ about it. At some point in the last ten years feelings became more important than truths and emotion got more interesting than facts. At some point in the last ten years I got sick of hearing how scientists, sports personalities, actors or anyone of note feels. Bring me facts, bring me answers, bring me the universe. Feelings, they’re ten a penny and frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
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my life is really a joke, i have never met someone with great knowledge and interest in physics and i never got the chance to be in a place like this, but it's fine my genius may be going to waste but i will always love knowledge and that's enough for me
Thank you