H. Pylori natural cure. The diet and supplements that worked for me.
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2019
- Hey folks,
My name is Justin and this is a quick video of all the things I have taken that I believe played a major role in helping me rid myself of H. Pylori, Gastritis, cured my Ulcers and improved my digestion.
It was a brutal battle for over a year and a half but I am committed to making sure other people get the same information I so desperately needed during the time I had this awful bacteria.
I am also not a Dr. and I would take any Doctor's advice over my own. If there is something that is concerning you - check with your Doctor! This is just my story and what helped me through this.
Hopefully this helps someone as a reminder after watching the video. Must listen to the video tho to know how and why to take things.
Kill Phase
1. Mastic Gum
2. Oregano Oil
3. Manuka Honey
4. Crucera-SGS (sulforaphane)
5. Bismouth (or Lauric Acid or Aniseed Oil)
Repair Phase
1. Cabbage juice and Celery juice
2. L-Glutamine (10-20g a sitting x2 p/day)
3. Bone broth
4. Slippery Elm, Marshmallow Root and DGL
5. Betaine HCL and pepsin (1/2 capsules 5 mins before eating, 1/2 during eating)
*may want to avoid fibrous foods: suggested foods include chicken and potato. Reduce meal size and frequency.
Post Repair
1. Cabbage/Celery Juice
2. Potassium
Thanks dude
Thank you
Zinc Carnosine
Awesome video. Did you take the mastic gum, manuka honey and other supplements at the same time and duration?
Thank you
Awesome video. Been dealing with this for two years. You know your stuff. Thank you for taking the time to post this.
I read everything, not only extremely informative but also comforting. What an amazing soul you have... so many blessings to you.
GOD BLESS YOU! YOU ARE HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE!
I learned more from you than any Dr's video here
Great Video This helped me a lot and explained my issues with probiotics
Your the only person I can find that has the same symptoms as me very helpful
Excellent presentation very informative Man !! KUDOS 2 U ! I CAN TELL YOU DID YOUR HONEWOK & U DID YOUR RESEARCH!! THANK YOU! SOO MUCH
great vid mate, love them helpful tips thank you
this is a great and extraordinarily informative video. Thank you so much.
If I recall correctly I think it's a lactulose breath test.
In the United States the doctors are somewhat familiar with it. They typically will either test the stool with it or they will tell it test that fermented gas by consuming that fermentable sugar
Hey Justin, so firstly thanks so much for the video! Am really interested in your experiences with probiotics also. Please keep making more vids like this! Cheers! Doni
Thanks for supplying the cliff-notes version in another comment!
I actually want to make a video in regards to probiotics. It seems there is a lot to cover and timing is a big factor.
Some quick important factors to note would be:
Post H. Pylori stomache acid is very low and probiotics like Lactobacillus Acidophilus could actually be more harmful than good due to its rapid means of reproduction and overgrowth potential (contributing to SIBO).
However, Bacillus Subtilus is a species renown for eliminating bacteria such as H. Pylori in the early GI track. So Duodenal H. Pylori colonies actually get inhibited by Bacilus Subtilus. A potential key species in preventing H. Pylori reoccurrence.
Will try and make a video with more detail this winter.
@@VitaminJ7734 Really interesting, I have followed a lot of people in my search for answers to the problems that have affected my GI tract, and this was really some of the best. Got some mastic gum yesterday and really enjoy chewing it after a meal, feels really good. There is a great guy called Mike who runs "Heal your gut guy" channel on youtube who gives also some great info. But there is a lot of mis info out there so cheers again and keep it up! Am sure this will help a lot of people!
Hey Vitamin J, welldone. We are waiting on more videos!
Great points here…Stomach acid = Totally! With pylori and low stomach acid I had lots of undigested food. And major constipation. And I had the pain in that exact spot on the right side..kept feeling it was a kidney stone! Feel like I got it when I had a LOT of dairy, after not having dairy for a year. I also took Matula Tea…between that and Mastic gum - cleared it up. Great video.
Thank you for your this video 😊🙏
Hi. How long and how did you know you kill it? Thank you for this video! Blessings.
Thanks for posting this❤️but you didn’t talk about sibo even I took probiotics and suffering from sibo how did you cure that?
Thank you for this video 🥹 this was a fresh of air and hope
Great information thank yiu
Would you elaborate on putting acid back? Was the h pylori eradicated by then would you say? Had your ulcers healed by then? Was your gastritis still flaring? Did you ever try the antibiotics or did they not work for you? The way I understand it from the video is that you still had gastritis but you took slippery elm etc. to reduce the pain of adding in the hcl? I’m still on heavy antacids and bismuth and just starting to add in the supplements. Thank you!
What do you think about colloidal silver? And thanks for this video!
It's hard to find a lot of information on colloidal silver but I did use it and there are people with good success stories.
I do believe it's probably an effective antibiotic as the bacteria that likes to take in minerals will take in colloidal silver which will kill them in the end however this may indiscriminately function similarly to good Flora or probiotics.
@VitaminJ7734, I have watched your video few times already and it is really really helpful. I would love to tell you my story but do not want to write a essay here but I been meaning ask you if you can provide the links or sites of all the product you took. There are so many types and brand not sure which one is effective. Lastly, if is not too much for you it would be really helpful if you can create a PDF with step by step of all the things you did with timeline.
What I really need to do is provide a more presentable video. I'll likely remake it this winter with some additions. Show the specific products I use and mention some of the scientific studies that provide merit to these remedies.
I'm still learning so much more including just how important it is to make sure we have certain competitive strains of bacteria that prevent H. Pylori from over colonizing.
@@VitaminJ7734 It's a really great video. If you make another one, I'm sure that'll be great, too. Looking forward to it. What a strange, but motivating, way to learn about our body and it's functions and needs. Pretty cool.
Hello! What is the name of the doctor you mentioned that said to feed the bacteria to come out of hiding? Great video! Thanks!
If I recall it was Dr. Pimentel I believe. One of the first guys to really get SIBO on the radar for common medical practice.
@@VitaminJ7734 Thank you very much!!
Hey I’m in the Facebook group for h py! Great video! But how’d u know when to stop the killing phase? Did u retest?
I did retest.
I can't remember exactly when I stopped The killing phase so to say.
I know I reached the point where I felt like I was taking so many harsh compounds that I had to stop and I stuck with some of the more mild ones. For example black seed oil oregano oil those ones I only took for so long.
I did however continue to take things like mastic gum for quiet sometime after!
I was afraid of it returning and wanted to keep a protocol that would prevent it from doing stuff
@@VitaminJ7734 So did you wait a month to retest and stopped all supps?
Thank you so much for your information...it's helping me improve little by little. I do have a question regarding your starting to introduce HCL. It sounded like you initially combined it with slippery elm, licorice etc so as not to inflam your stomach lining...is that right? If so how much slippery elm etc did you take, and wouldn't that nullify the HCL? This is where I am right now...I'm not digesting my food and do not want SIBO!...dealt with that last year...thank you!!
So you could take slippery on before the meal to coat the stomach and then you take the betaine hydrochloric acid with the meal and that's going to help with the digestion in theory of the slippery elm should still be coating the wall of the stomach
@@VitaminJ7734 Thank you for answering so quickly!...and very kind of you to share the way you cleared this awful stomach problem.
thank you :)
Hey man I've done soooo much research on h pylori aswel. I unfortunately took the antibiotics when I knew nothing about it though... I've been taking DGL, Zinc carnosine, mastic gum, Cabbage juice, Probioitcs etc... I may have to try the HCL now :) I'm just scared it will hurt. How many are you still taking?
have u cured?? please say🙏🙏🙏
Hey Justin!
Thank you for sharing this. I had H Pylori, treated, but I think it never went away. Trying to give it a different approach now and fix it after over a year with it.
Could you please list all the products you used and perhaps the brands and all the dosis intakes? That would be very helpful!
Also, would you feel more bloated right after going to the bathroom (pushing) or sitting down for a long time and then standing up?
Did you feel the lump in your throat sensation? Or mucus?
Dry mouth? Random saliva segregation?
Thank you so much!!!!!
Uou this exactly what i feel. I never saw anybody talking about the standing up gas thing
Did you find relief with those symptoms? Following his info?
I would literally feel gas push through my system when I’d stand up. Almost like a bubble being pushed.
hey duddy thanks , great video. But u didnt mention doses and when and how much to take. Can u mentioned here pls. It would be great help. and how many days u have taken bismuth and doses pls? thanks.
Dosage I always went by the bottle.
Bismuth was twice a day a cupful? And I only used it for a month.
You dont wanna use the salicylate versions as that can harm stomach lining
@@VitaminJ7734 thanks. Im not american, so can u tell a cupfull equal to ml? Is there a different version of bismol? Didnt know that. Which one u took?
@@VitaminJ7734 im not sure which one is biofim disrupter or both ?Subsalicylate or Subcitrate ? they use the subcitrate with pylera antibiotics. and I knew subcitrate comes in tablets form but how did u get a cupful ? pls ans
@@VitaminJ7734 where did you get bismuth please? I only know pepto which has subsalicylate
Which brand of mastic gum and how much did you use? Pill, or actual sap gum? What brand of n sativa? Oil or pill? I’m going to try them but wanted to know which worked for you?
I wasnt too particular about brands. More about the fact I could smell the resin sap.
I believe it was Jarrows Formula that had a capsule version that I found better than a tablet. Really had a strong odor to it.
I did order the chios mastiha resin from Greek which apparently is Mastic Gum in a less refined form.
I would chew it for up to an hour, spit it out (as it pulled bacteria) then swallowed a fresh piece. Didnt do that as frequently as using the supplements.
I tried to find your video video, but couldn't find it. Curious to know if your Hell during h.pylori was similar to mine!
First of all I want to say thank you so much ! You are spot on. Then I wanted to ask what can I take to this horrible bad breath that no matter how many times I brush my teeth I won't go away. Tell me more about acv did you only take it once a day while fasting and did you dilute it ? Or 3 times a day you know 1/2 hour before each meal.
The bad breath is often times a result of the undigested food fermenting or rotting in the stomach.
ACV or Betaine HCL can be effective for this if that is the cause. Chlorophyll is also a known stomach deodorant.
I'm unsure about ACV during periods of fasting if you have any sign of gastritis this may not be a good idea. Most of its benefits come along with the fact that it aids in digestion and is taken with food.
Try Smartmouth mouth wash twice a day. They also have a toothpaste.
@@michellelucas7985 can't I can't do any type of sugar, alcohol or mint, or spearmint. I have gi issues.
@@VitaminJ7734 Hi... Did u get any side effects from the Bismuth, also how were u taking it? Amounts, with or without food etc... Thanks
@@user-Red5hield-exp0ser it's hard for me to say as I had symptoms that came and went all the time and I wasn't sure what the cause was.
I took liquid bismuth salicylate. Which I wouldn't recommend as it has an asprin like component in it.
Bismuth citrate I think is the one you want.
I took it empty stomache before bed.
Mine's flatulence and stomach growling. Any suggestions please?
do you know what to be done when u have to take antibiotic due to another reason , say wound that got septic and operated ,post that antibiotic for that casues issues in stomach? options ?
I know antibiotics typically disturb digestion by killing off your microbes.
A lot of people find relief with probiotics.
Do you know any mastic gum capsule product
Hello Vitamin J
I want to thanks for your video very helpful.
I had some question have you ever experience extreme weight loss under 100 lbs & did your MUSCLES JUMP ALL DAY & WAS YOUR STOMACH MAKING THESE BUBBLING RUMBLING SOUNDS ALL DAY IF SO WHAT IS THAT OR MAY BE CAUSING THAT . ALSO MY TEETH WAS VERY WHITE BEFORE I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH H PYLORI NOW ITS DARK BROWN 1 YEAR LATER SO DO YOU KNO WHAT MAY HAVE CAUSED THAT
IF YOU CAN HELP PLEEEZE SEND COMMENT OR REPLY OR ANYONE WHO MAY BE RRADING THIS COMMENT & MAY HAVE EXPERIENCE WHAT I HAVE .
THANKS
Did u get fixed?
Hi Justin. Quick question. Can you recommend a brand/type of choline? Im a bit overwhelmed with the options, especially when I read comments from people talking about negative side effects. I had hoped I could get away with not taking choline and milk thistle, but the pain is just too intense. My liver needs help (I, too, had a ct scan and was told my liver is enlarged). Did you notice any negative side effects with either choline or milk thistle (i.e. insomnia or vomiting)? Thank you so much.
I realize in your gallbladder video, you're holding a bottle of NusaPure choline bitartrate, but some people have commented in other videos that it may not be the best form if choline (compared to CDP or alpha GPC). Did you find the bitartrate to be effective and without side effects? Thanks in advance.
@@stefaniescura6787 those are both very good choline sources for neurological benefits. I was just looking for cholines fat removing affects off the liver.
currently diagnosed with h-pylori along with gastritis ...few questions your first month what exactly did you take and how did you take them ? then after that what did your add in and did you add it in with the additional supplements youve been taking? just trying to find the best solution
have u cured?? please say🙏🙏🙏
hey man I going though the same problem as you man, i had h pylori, got rid of it and still had symptoms of sore stomach, i had a endoscopy and turns out that i have "Gastritis", I took ant acid pills but i feel like they are not working and now I'm worried that i might have stomach cancer
A lot of us have gone through that. Something feels very wrong, very heavy and anxiety is high due to H. Pylori's damage to the Vagus nerve. Strangely, things seem to get worse afterwards for sometime to get better. I would always check with your doctor, but I do want to share that a lot of people find PPI's to cause significant problems down the line. One of the final steps to fixing my gut was actually acidifying the stomache, as opposed to lowering the acidic content. (Keep the PH low). If acidic things burn, you need to build the mucosal lining with things like Marshmellow root and Slippery Elm root.
I had similar problems as well, antacids and PPIs do a lot of damage long-term, they are such a blunt instrument that halts acid prodution completely. Give justins methods a try and good luck
Hey! I'm treating my h.pylori naturally. Question for you...did you ever get upper back pressure/tightness? I do and it's often tied together with some shortness of breath. Did you experience this?
thanks bro, when did u tested h pylori , after finishing 3 mnths protocol or after killing phase ?
have u cured?? please say🙏🙏🙏
🙏🏼 thank u
Thanks
Thank you for posting this !!!
What kind of mastic gum worked for you ?
We’re you chewing raw or did you get capsules ?
I actually used several brands one of which was Solaray in capsules.
I didn't really like the idea of tablets I like the idea of capsules that I could really smell they typically had this very strong pine smell.
I didn't fact buy the mastic gum resin from Greece, but didn't use that as often just because of the inconvenience. I would chew it and swallow, although I'm not sure if that is necessarily the best practice
@@alpha-rw1zb I had a similar issue when I had esophagitis, or inflammation of the esophagus.
You can take it without the capsule without an issue.
@@alpha-rw1zb I've never tried that I've actually chewed the mastic gum itself and swallowed. It becomes hard crystaline in cold water. So make require a bit of water to make it go down smoothly.
@@VitaminJ7734 hi, so you used to chew the capsule itself?
@@satyajitbehera1979 I used to order the actual Chios resin and chew it.
Hi. Please I’m trying to get rid of h pylori naturally. Can you please tell me if I should take HCL now while I’m trying to kill it or is it the plan for later? It’s now couple weeks that I’m taking most of the things you mentioned but not the hcl.
I still when I eat and especially dinner it stay there feel bloated uncomfortable and it’s like I ate a very big meal 😣 please help. Thanks
It will take sometime mate but keep doing it will get better
Did u get rid of it?
thank you for this video! did u also deal w acid reflux while having this? ALSO did u stop kissing during eradication? and do u still avoid kissing?
I did deal with acid reflux for a period of time.
I didn't change behaviors in terms of kissing.
@@VitaminJ7734 how do i avoid getting reinfected then? ppl say u can get it through kissing through saliva i don’t wanna avoid kissing my whole life
@@JonnyBDope it's all about your immune system. Consuming healthy foods that have Auntie h-pylori properties and consuming bacteria that have antagonistic properties towards that bacteria it's a great solution. Also fortifying your stomach barrier these are all done overtime
@@VitaminJ7734 bet. so in time it won’t matter if i get reinfected or if someone else has it? because my immune system is back to normal. also so ur saying there’s no need to avoid kissing during treatment? didn’t reinfect u? thank u for helping me this stuff is confusing
One question ulcer after h pilory can cause bad breath ? Cuz my test come out negative around 2 month but I am still dealing with ulcer and some pain now no as bad as before but. Iam still taking my supplement
So the bad breath Is typically a result of poorly digested food. Some bacteria ferment an odor, but if its straight up aweful and you feel a heaviness in your gut; you're not digesting correctly.
H pylori does significant damage to the mucosa cells which also play a role in secreting HCL, stomache acid.
What helped me and several others is restoring that stomache acid and increasing the speed of stomache emptying. This is also a remedy for halitosis (bad breath)
I recommend:
Slippery elm and Marshmellow root first.
If you have an ulcer I'd start light on the next stage. Slippery elm and marshmellow root will coat the mucosa and help secrete proliferating cells for restoration.
Betaine HCL
Enzymes (optional)
The HCL will restore the stomache acid that is malfunctioning from H. Pylori damage. Start with capsule and continue to increase with each consecutive meal until you feel benefits. Some people take up to 12, but start small, because if you have ulcers it will burn and you stop. It does not agitate gaatritis as we once believed, but helps.
If you ever burning from it you took too much. Typically, itll take time to work, you'll feel lighter and less bloating and then you can taper off as your body will recycle it and restore it's own acid production.
@@VitaminJ7734 thanks
Thanks, great info. Can you buy cabbage juice or do you have to juice your own? Also...my belly looks 9 months pregnant immediately after eating and is always with load growls and noise. Is this also part of the h pylori?
The cabbage juice should be made at home and consumed immediately. Many of the active components denaturalize soon after masticating.
It sounds like you definitely have sibo. Not sure if you've heard of that? I would definately look into it.
H. Pylori can cause bloating and inflammation but it's usually upper GI. Peptic and duodenum areas
Thank you for replying! Yes I have heard of SIBO and that it’s almost impossible to get rid of 😢
@@deb2531 it seems that way to people who treat it incorrectly.
SIBO seems to be an issue with motility. This is spurred on by having the correct PH in the stomache.
Most of the microbial threats are eradicated when correct PH is restored and the migratory complex is kicked into gear.
Then there are some cases, far more being observed now adays, where this occurs from Probiotic use and an over colonization of "Good" bacteria.
I had sibo like symptoms after H pylori from over using Probiotics when I had low stomache acid and slow motility.
You have inspired me to try again. I just took a Betadine HCL now and will take my DGL later. Now I have to find something that helps with motility?? I can’t thank you enough for giving me hope to try to heal. 🤍🙏🏼I had just gotten defeated and stopped trying and I live with the pain and bloat ☹️ you are so kind to help others!
@@VitaminJ7734 how to eradocate sibo?
Do you got tired with the ulcera no energy sometimes?
The entire healing process involved a lot of low energy days and fatigue.
nutrient absorption is really hard when the stomach is not working right.
forgot to ask you have did you get rid of sibo,if you did? It's kind of hard even when you get rid of h pylori,if you dont digest food well,it all feeds sibo.
I shouldn't have said I had SIBO as I didnt get tested - I just had Sibo like symptoms, typically after probiotic use. Staying away from fermented food, veggies, fiber, and using oil of oregano and betaine HCL helped me a lot. It's a strange case where good bacteria was causing me problems and naturally I dont want to be somebody who recommends avoiding veggies - it was just a strange situation that helped me resolve my unusual problem (Too much probiotics in small intestines).
@@VitaminJ7734 No,you are right about sibo.The tests for it are not accurate anyways and sibo is a secondary condition of something else ; infections,parasites,brain dammage,surgery where a nerve was cut..H pylori affects mmc so food stays too long in small intestine.I see people on facebook h pylori groups still having issues months after they testes negative.It's what you'r saying; they have weak stomach acid,food intolerances and sibo that they arnt aware of.I can do natural probiotics in small amounts such as yoghurt or a bit of sauerkraut,it helps to move foods better. But these pills probiotics are crap.Also same as you i dont do well with cruciferous veggies.Thanks for these comments it really helps identify some symptoms better
Thank you very much for sharing your experience I wanna try raise my stomach acid can you right me the name of the supplement you had
I used Betaine HCL, Ginger and Apple cider vinegar to do so.
Betaine HCL worked the best but be cautious if you have ulcers. Some stomaches aren't ready for correcting PH Levels.
I liked Dr. Bests Betaine HCL, Pepsin and gentian.
Recommended to only take right before a fill sized meal. Several capsules can be used.
@@VitaminJ7734 i need some help,can i take HCL at the same time as treating h pylori ore after? And how long did u treat it for weeks?what about probiotic?
@@gigafia5358 My treatment length is a tough one to discuss because I took some compounds, like Mastic gum for many months.
I slowly tapered off things as I felt better.
The problem with Betaine HCL is if you have gastritis or ulcers it could cause burning. So sometimes you need to wait to fortify the stomache lining first.
Probiotics I think are the finishing touch. If your stomache is strong enough for them, probiotics will prevent recolonization of H. Pylori.
Make sure your stomache is moving contents or Probiotics can result in Sibo like symptoms.
Probiotics that fight H. Pylori:
L-Reuteri, L-Rhamnosus, L-Gasseri
@@VitaminJ7734 thank you so mutch,you are really helpfull.i have been very sick for 4 years ,no doctor have helped me,i also went to naturopats but they did not test for h pylori. I took a blood test it came back negative i dont trust this that why doctors didn treat me they diagnosed me with subclinical hypothyroidism because my thyroid is out of controll because of this infection.the first year i was so sick i could bearly eat anything,panic attack,insomnia , pain in stomach, diarhea, hair loss,food intolerance,major fatigue and massive weight loss,i also got raising heart feelt like dying. I got diagnosed with candida and some Sibo,but i tried to treat both sibo with antibiotics,and also candida with caprylic acid. I helped some but rhe symptoms came back,my tounge is also white coating. The i found out h pylori lowers stomach acid so bad bacteria,parasites and candida can take hold. I also am very nutrient deficiet in b12,ferritin,magnesium,pottasium, and fat vitamins. I guess my gallbladder is struggling. ok so what i am understanding i should start taking mastic gum,oregano,and also slippery elm,marshmallow root,aloe vera for coating the gut lining for a while,and then try to take some HCL while i treat with mastic gum after a couple of weeks? I dont know if i have an ulcer ore gastritis,i just know i sometimes get this pain in my side of the stomach that comes and goes..i allways bloated like a ballon si i can only eat potatoes,meat,chicken,lamb....
@@gigafia5358 I had the same as you last year. Don't have Iodine until your TSH is back to normal. Btw you have subclinical HYPERthyroidism not HYPO. Hypo makes u fat, Hyper makes u lose weight and fast heart rate
Hi bro, is it worth it to take anti-biotics? I will definitely take Mastic, Oregano, Manuka and Crucera as they're available as supplements. Do you think it would be useful to take anti-biotics after 15 days of starting the 4 things I mentioned at the start?
P.S, how are you doing now and can you tell me a little about your diet too? What do you eat and what not?
When looking at the studies the highest efficacy for eradication is the combination of antibiotics and the natural remedies.
My diet at the time changed radcally. I started with only being able to handle potatoes. Acidic foods and veggies were very painful. High fat foods too.
So lots of chicken and potatoes. As i slowly got better I started to introduce veggies. It seems food sensitivities can differ wildly for some people.
I introduced fermented foods way later into the program to prevent it from coming back. (Kefir and kimchi).
Is there a vegetarian bone broth?
How are you now?
Welldone
Hi, what brand of betaine HCL and pepsin did you use?
Dr's Best was my favorite.
@@VitaminJ7734 Thankyou.
Hey Justin do you have Facebook or something I have finished my H-Pylori antibiotic but I’m still having heart problems I saw your other video saying you had heart problems also I just have a few questions for you it would be heaps of help 🙏 it’s so scary
facebook.com/justin.desrosiers.3
Hi justin I found out other supplement that work really well is call( H-PLR )by apex energetics the other think people need to understand is help you liver at the same time
My holistic doctor recommended that 1 for me
Thanks , what do u think about Colloideal Bismush Subcitrate (C.B.S) Tablets Also Known As Tripotassium Dicitrato Bismuthate (T.D.B) Tablets ?
I haven't heard of them before. But I did hear things about bismuth and how effective it was for killing each pylori I just could never find a form that was not the form that was combined with aspirin.
@@VitaminJ7734 its same thing like bismuth subcitrate potassium. with collidial , with is like a gelatin or gels,
@@VitaminJ7734 bismuth subsalicylate is aspirin, subcitrate is potassium salt basically
You can take Nac if you dont want to take the pharmaceutical bismuth
Can you plz share exact what you took plz share the name of oil of oregano and plz share another supplements
I don't have any specific brand recommendations as I would mix up the brand.
The oil of oregano was an oil with a dropper. Took two drops typically with food. Only other thing I took not in the video was Garlic cloves.
Took me until after I made the video to realize I think garlic played a role on my recovery
P73 oil of oregano by American herb and spice is the best, but its the most expensive
Its so much info 😢 idk what to do
Any luck with the candida part of this? Just wondering if you had any suggestions/thoughts/advice before I start this Diflucan. My functional medicine doctor does not think this overgrowth (candida albicans and candida dubliniensis in my case, along with reactivated epstein barr virus) can be resolved without Diflucan/Fluconazole. Not looking forward to the die off, but I'm so ready to be done with this way of living (or not living). Trizomal glutathione and Lauricidin have been really helpful (in addition to many other supplements), but again, I'm just ready to be completely healthy again. Thank you.
Im no expert on candida but I definitely had it on the tongue.
I used lauricidin, garlic and reduced carbs.
I heard restoring hcl helps too and I was doing that already.
But as I said I only had visual evidence of it on my tongue I don't know if I had any other candida symptoms so I can't really say how severe I had it or if my treatment worked.
@@VitaminJ7734 Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Hi Stefanie….I’ve had some of the same issues as you…have you had a Mold exposure in your home or workplace? Makes you susceptible to these types of infections.
@@Boojerella That's actually exactly what I now think is going on and how this all started. Thank you for suggesting that. Can you recommend anything or point me in the right direction? I would appreciate any help. I hope you're doing well.
@@stefaniescura6787 I spent a year with a naturopath - not much help…despite a detailed history of cleaning mold with bleach, etc. I went to another naturopath who ordered a Urine Mycotoxin Test, and it came back elevated for 5 types. Starting treatment now…but I’ve learned that mold toxicity (or Lyme) can suppress your immune system and make you prone to infections like this. 25% of the population cannot detox the Mold or elicit an immune response. 75% of the population can (my hubby)… Can be treated with binders to help you get the toxins out…so there’s hope!
Also what suppliments would u suggest to get rid of deficiencies that caused by H.pylori
Ancestral Supplements Beef Liver capsules...it’s a ‘natural multivitamin’
What are the deficiency cause dvy h pylori?
how long did you do each step? like oregano? bismuth?
I cant recall exactly.
I believe I took most things for a 2 week period.
Started to cut them out to repair the stomache as many of them felt very harsh.
Mastic gum, cabbage juice and sulforophane I've never stopped taking.
Those were mild and till today, I use to keep h. Pylori at bay.
and what did you do for SIBO
@@emmahasenstab3826 I had to discontinue the use of probiotics. Intermittent fasting, reducing fiber in take, and increases acid (lowering PH) in the stomache helped it go away.
hey bro can u name the brand of oil of oregano, that u used pls ?
North American Herb and Spice -
@@VitaminJ7734 thanks. But they have oil, soft gel and organo juice. Which one and pls the doses?
did you eat any fruits during the process?
The berries are good for h pylori. Aside from that, avoid it as much as possible because it high in sugar.
Nac does the same as Bismuth and is natural and can be taken indefinitely
Good point. N-Acetyl-Cysteine has many benefits including prevention in liver damage.
@@VitaminJ7734 Ive been watching your video over and over all day, you taught me a lot thank you very much. i had H.pylori 2 years ago and i took the triple therapy and i was good for a while but now i think its back or i just have low HCL like you mentioned, im not sure...just made a dr appointment well see.
Keep us updated. Its reoccurrence is very common and no one is 100% sure on how to prevent its return. I believe it does have to do with balancing PH in the stomache and having competitive probiotic flora present.
Hey thanks ! Great video i faild my antibiotics therapy and now i m looking to something natural since i cannot take anymore antibiotics
Can you tell me pls How long did u take the suppliments for h pilory?
I do have oxid bismuth is that the same thing?
Thanks
Simona
I'm not sure the difference is in the Bismuth I tried to look then up.
I took the supplements probably very consistently for three months maybe tapered down a little bit for six some of them I stopped earlier like the oil of oregano and some of the more harsh supplements.
it's truly hard to say because I continued even after I got better just to ensure that H pylori wouldn't come back
Thank you
Hope i keep up 3m !
🌟😍
How r u?
Hi how did you treat anxiety and panic attacks?
That is a tricky one and I wish I had a precise answer.
the anxiety and the panic attacks can be very powerful and come seemingly out of nowhere.
As soon as I started using supplements to treat H pylori it fortunately just went away.
I seem to feel that oil of oregano may have played one of the biggest roles I actually remember having an unusual calmness come over me within an hour after using it I'm not sure if that was placebo or it was just having an immediate effect.
but after using a lot of these supplements my anxiety panic attacks went away after about a week.
VitaminJ7734 Thank you so much for your reply, its been 8 months since my husband had H pylori, its been 3 months since he had antibiotics, the natural stuff he had was only Marshmallow root,slippery elm,only for some time), herbal teas, magnesium, and twice celery/cabbage juice, for food he only have boiled lentils mostly,for breakfast he still have bread,I’m not sure if thats even good for him) all his symptoms has gone but he still gets anxiety sometimes very severe, you said oregano oil is good, do you think i should get him all the supplements u suggested or only some, and which oregano oil you used please? Thank you again for the video its very helpful
@@butterflies3130 okay well I do want to note I am no expert of course!
But I continuously read people's regarding this.
a lot of the people that have severe anxiety for a prolonged period of time seem to get it from the antibiotics.
I imagine he no longer has H pylori? If that's the case please do not use oil of oregano because that is an antibiotic compound.
there are studies that suggest many of the lactic acid producing bacteria which is good for us actually produces gaba a compound that allows us to calm down.
in fact they're responsible for the production of this hormone in large.
I strongly recommend trying Kiefer,
A fermented milk with lots of lactic acid bacteria.
a lot of these probiotics are killed off when we use antibiotic compounds and this could be the issue.
VitaminJ7734 Thanks,🙏🏻 yes he did a home fr pylori and it come out negative,
@@VitaminJ7734 Thanks for sharing your journey overcoming H Pylori. I did almost the same thing to get rid of my H Pylori overgrowth. For the panic attack, try L Reuteri probiotic. It was given to me by the integrative medicine dr i went to see. Upon taking it, it calmed down my anxiety & panic attack. However, for long term management of H Pylori, I did almost exactly what you did...& we even have almost the same diet. Lol! & yes I too could not tolerate insoluble fiber, no vegetables & fruits, hence I do vegetable juicing, just like in your video..what a coincidence
Other than the celery and cabbage juice and chicken and potato what foods helped when u had sibo and did you eat the chicken and potatoes bland
Originally had the chicken and potatoes bland but as time went on I would continue to add stuff
I don't have any particular foods that will help with sibo but I definitely have herbs and supplements that would
Ginger seems to be a huge component in assisting sibo as it gets everything going at this digestive systems moving and that gets sibo into its right location.
Betaine hydrochloric acid and apple cider vinegar also does that in its own way.
@@VitaminJ7734 just was curious cause I have sibo and the reflux was gettin no help from drs
@@VitaminJ7734 what herbs helped i know betaine hcl supplements helped you said
@@Cliffhenderson83 Ginger was the real big player. I'm not 100% sure what else may have helped but I experimented with thyme oil and oil of oregano, which is antibiotic in nature and will kill the organisms in the small intestines.
These do however come with some of the side effects of antibiotics and I'm not sure if they are worth it.
@@VitaminJ7734 u mean like ginger root tea
What kinda bismuth did you use?
I took the typical Pepto-Bismol bismuth which isn't actually the one they use in studies or typically the ones they recommend during prescription.
It also has saccharine in it which is kind of nasty stuff.
If you can get your hands on the other stuff it's probably better recommended.
I believe the recommended one is Bismuth Citrate or Subcitrate.
how long for Betaine hcl ?
How long until you take it? Or how long do you take it for?
I feel like it's one of those situations you just have to try and if you feel better with it then it's likely you need it.
However, if you have an ulcer it may cause more pain to which you're probably not going to want to continue using it.
you continue to use it until you feel like you don't need it anymore. A lot of people start to taper down when it feels like digestion is going smoothly and they no longer have that big bloating feeling at their center.
Also I would like to ask you Vitamin J
The list of regimens that you posted like Mastic Gum & Manuka honey
To help kill the H pylori.
Did you take all of them in the same day or separately because of interaction concerns im asking if they can all be taken together thru out the same day or did you take on different days .
Because I thought maybe this was the reason some ppl have trouble or side effects or not be able to tolerate them if they are all consumed in one day
So how should anyone who is trying to kill H pylori take the items you listed above ?
Is it daily or do you take mastic gum alone on 1 day them oregano oil the next day etc. Please explain thank you
I took them all at once and if you look at a lot of people success stories they do it too. It sounds like a lot and unfortunately I think that's what it takes to take out this bacteria is an approach from all angles.
Sometimes when we just stick with one remedy we seem to knock out a version of the bacteria that's vulnerable to it leaving another one resistant, and then that one takes over.
@@VitaminJ7734
Awesome ! Ok 👌 thank you soo much for your quick reply I will definitely try to take all of them & hope that I'm able to tolerate them because I believe the H pylori cause your body over time to not tolerate alot of things you digest because they say it gives off a Gram negative effect of endo toxins & causes a Die off effect in your body that why alot ppl feel crazppy after taking supplements
But like you said by using them all at once it may attack it from different angles and kill off alot of other bad bacteria as well
Again thank you soo much for sharing that video was very very informative 👍
Keep up the good work and continue to educate and help others
Best of luck to you and your subscribers !!!
@@VitaminJ7734
Hello Vitamin J7734
I have another ? To ask u
For your protocol treatment
As far as Mastic Gum which brand did u use because I purchased some authentic mastic chewing gum from this Greek store it was the pure crystal rocks but I don't kno if I can crush these into powder & swallow it so I just chew it i feel like it helps my teeth only a little so i don't kno can i grind the rocks up & swallow bcuz I'm not sure if u can digest the gum it' self?
Also I went on to purchased othrr brands like Vitamin shop brand which was only $14.99 but I felt nothing I didn't have that mastic gum resin smell like pine then I purchased Nutricolgy brand that smelled like mastic gum but I keep having a little bad reaction like my legs & arms get stiff & it make me feel weird .
I was looking for the Brand JARROW MASTIC GUM BUT IT SEEM TO BE SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE. I DO HAVE MANUKA HONEY THE UMF 15 & 550 LIKE U STATED IN VIDEO SO WHICH BRAND OF MANUKA HONEY & MASTIC GUM DID U TRY .
ALSO DO U USE WIKD OREGANO OIL & WILD SLIPPERY ELM & WILD MARSHMALLOW ROOT OR JUST THE REGULAR. AND WHICH IS BETTER TO USE AS FAR MARSHMALLOW ROOT& SLIPPERY ELM WOULD IT BE THE BULK TO MAKE TEA OR COLD INFUSION OR WILL THE CAPSULE WORK BETTER.
ALSO FOR L GLUTAMINE I HAVE PURCHASED THE JARROW BRAND
SO IM WANT TO KNO IF U USED THAT AND IF ITS A GOOD BRAND BECAUSE I ONLY SAW THAT & SOLGAR & VITAMIN SHOP BRAND
OK HOPE TO HEAR FROM U AGAIN
THANK U AGAIN
So Is it bad to drink milk? I don’t have problems drinking milk.
If you don't have problems then you should be alright.
Listening to your body is key and it seems everyone handles food differently in this situation.
@@VitaminJ7734 it’s crazy I brought mastic gum… the one I got says take 3 between meals so I really don’t know how to take it .
@@irankundaangel9507 have u cured?? please say🙏🙏🙏
@@akash-fu6ts no
I did like a 4 month treatment made a 20 day pause in between.Last month i was taking 1g mastic 2x a day with nac and monolaurin,cranbery capsule. And 2x a day berberine 500mg,pau d arco 500 mg,astaxanthin,monolaurin.I started having lots of gastritis and indigestion last few days so i stopped all the supplements.I didnt want to irritate my gut anymore so i stopped supplements to see where am at.Will retest soon but not sure if after i retest taking mastic will irritate my gut and cause indigestion which is not beneficial
I do believe there is a time where you remove all the gums and binders, reduce the stomache coating herbs and then crank up your gastric juices to fully restore digestive function. Once the stomache acid is in place its less likely bacteria will be able to return in that environment.
That switch seems to be crucial.I did some apple cider vinegar,seems like i could tolerate it,no burning and felt like i was digesting food.But after a while it's like it irritated my gut a bit.I will try with dgl and acv..Like you did with hcl
How long did you do the kill phase?
it's a little hard for me to recall. I used a lot of substances and I used many of them in different degrees. For example I only used oil of oregano for about three weeks but I did use mastic gum for probably up to 6 months.
Thanks for replying. Pls also what gram of mastic gum did you buy
@@themenorah9581 they are all relatively the same if they are encapsulated. It's going to be about 500 mg per capsule some will say one gram per serving but the serving size is two capsules.
You can also buy the actual resin. Chew them in your mouth like gum and swallow then.
They are usually around a gram or slightly over per piece.
@@VitaminJ7734 thanks a lot. Am just tired of hpylori. Cant sleep.
Bro is there a email addrrss i can reach you on
Could you have possibly had Cándida?
I ended up getting thrush afterward.
When I finally introduced the kefir a fermented drink, it went away.
I'm not sure what caused the candidiasis.
@@VitaminJ7734 awesome, damn those little guys!!😡
@@VitaminJ7734 how much kefir did y take? I heared it’s great stuff
@@dvd791 for some reason I really loved the stuff. So I'd down a bottle every two days.
I hear it's possible to do too much though so I'd probably go slower than that.
@@VitaminJ7734 yea I’m starting to really get into ferments and such, there’s some sort of dysbiosis going on in my gut, very very similar to what you described in your video, I got tested for h pylori negative. I’ve taken probably 5 antibiotics in the last two years and I’m thinking it took down my microbiome and some sort of yeast is proliferating. Might be wrong but I’m managing it, Acv work fantastic for me. It’s a process and I’m learning much!
ordered mastic gum today.
Any update?
@@satyajitbehera1979 not helping much. only the symptoms maybe will go away alittle bit. better therapy and DSM17648 probiotics and Liposomales.
Question
How much oil of oregano were you taking?
I am taking twice a day.
10 drops with water.
Thank you
I'm honestly not too sure I think I overdid it and I heard it's quite easy to overdo.
I ended up having worsening symptoms in terms of gastric pain and I think it might have been due to using a lot of that stuff.
@@VitaminJ7734
Thank you for the quick response
Hi ! Greetings from Australia 🙏🏻My breath test came positive and I am now taking only pantoprazole apotex.. still having this hunger pain in my stomach 😩not sure whether to wait for 2 weeks for the test or go and see the doctor again? Or get Endoscopy done ? I really don’t know where to start with this stupid bacteria ..
So you came back positive but they only prescribed you a proton pump inhibitor?
The endoscopy would be a more accurate test, if they take a biopsy. Will also reveal the extent of damage (Gastritis, ulcers, etc).
there are plenty of natural solutions though that can help keep H pylori in check. Detailed in the videos, of course.
@@VitaminJ7734 oh ! I forgot to mention.. I finished one week of triple therapy (antibiotics )and then started taking this pantoprazole .. that’s what the doctor wanted which doesn’t seem to work for me .. or maybe I am just wanting for a quick fix ..thank you so much taking your time to respond ☺️🙏🏻
@@bridgetjones5695 a lot of people don't get better immediately after in fact sometimes symptoms even get worse.
if you're taking pharmaceutical antibiotics or just finish taking them it's actually recommended to take probiotics usually fermented food is a good way to do this as it's going to restore some of the Lost good bacteria during the abx treatment.
Definitely take it slow though! Just like with me a lot of people seem to get really uncomfortable with it too much probiotics
@@VitaminJ7734 i am taking probiotics now even I took while on antibiotics .. eating boiled vegetables mainly cabbage 🥬 Borrocoli and cut all coffee or spicy food .. I will see my doctor on Monday so that he can refer me to a specialist .. 🙏🏻also fruit wise I am eating banana 🍌 and apple only .. would you recommend bananas?thank you so much for responding 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌸
@@bridgetjones5695 bananas are a very strange thing.
David Hompes, who is a renowned H pylori specialist in the UK strongly advocates for not consuming bananas.
He's repeated this in his lectures for some reason it seems to feed the pathogen but I don't really understand why or to what micro component specifically does that.
Hey man thanks for the information! Any way I can reach out to you ? Maybe social media?
You sure can!
Im in a few H. Pylori groups on Facebook.
facebook.com/justin.desrosiers.3
thanks. Im not american, so can u tell a cupfull equal to ml? Is there a different version of bismol? Didnt know that. Which one u took?
Did you get halitosis? ;(
Yes I did. It was rather awful. I found betaine HCL and Chlorophyll drinks to be the best for it.
@@VitaminJ7734 Thank you for responding! I just went to the doctor an hour ago and got prescribed antibiotics (amox. and an antibiotic that reduces stomach acid) I'm confused because if anything I should take something that will HELP my stomach produce acid. Can you please give me some advice if I should take the natural way or the antibiotic way? Or just take amox. while taking other supplements? :( This doctor said that I could do the natural way (stalling) or antibiotic (will kill it in 2 weeks)..
Hey justin you didnt mentioned how many days u took h pylori suppliments ?
That is something i wish I documented more accurately.
I think I was diagnosed in November and retested in February (longer than most protocols cause of insurance).
I also continued to run many supplements, such as mastic gum and cabbage juice long afterward to prevent it from coming back.
You are right after I kill H pilory gastraite got worse.
I'm still trying to research the exact reasoning for it - but it seems once H. Pylori is routed out, Stomache acid greatly declines. We'd often think the opposite - but this causes food to sit, ferment and just tear apart the stomache as it refuses to empty undigested contents in the duodenum.
It's worth experimenting with a little Betaine HCL.
@@VitaminJ7734 I am lit scared to take it cuz. Acid and I got some aloe vera supplement and they got my stomach w more sensitive after 6 days 1 more question do you got dry skin after H pilory or no. But I still feel better than before is been 7 month for me thanks for you help
@@magodeoz1084 Yes!
I actually got Rosacea from H. Pylori. A lot of skin conditions stem from a bacterial infection and a couple are correlated with H. Pylori as well (Rosacea being one of them).
@@VitaminJ7734 I recommend you as well colloidal silver is as good oregano oil and you can used it in any type of infection inside and outside. My son gat pink eyes in 2 day gone. 👍
@@magodeoz1084 I do mention Oregano oil, very impressive stuff.
Silver is tough to get studies in regarding internal usage but I definatelt tried it myself. 200 pp, just need to make sure it's real colloidal - should be amber brown.
How long it took to eradicate h pylori?
I believe I retested around 4 months to 6 months after it was a little later than how they usually do it however that doesn't mean the symptoms clear..
For many people that can still hold on to symptoms after eradication so it requires continued Care for some time
@@VitaminJ7734 this thing is hell. The antibiotics aren’t working for me.
@@mafia1953 I feel ya'.
It was literally one of the worst things I've ever experienced I'm absolutely mind blown that this thing isn't bigger.
I feel like this is a villain that the whole world should know about.
Are you just taking the antibiotics at the doctor gave you? Or you adding some of that natural stuff in there,?
Because if you ever check out the studies the chances of eradicating this beast goes way up if you start adding those natural components like Mastic gum in with the antibiotics.
As bad of an idea as it sounded for me originally when you start throwing all these cocktails together that's how you really knock this thing out
@@VitaminJ7734 unfortunately for me I did not do any research and I kept taking antibiotics alone. My stomach is burning and just tested positive after the quadruple treatment. I’m not taking antibiotics anymore.
Did u take any antibiotics?
@@mafia1953 I never took any of the pharmaceutical antibiotics I just heard too many horror stories with it and I heard a lot of good success on the naturals. So I decided to go that route.
But I will admit the highest efficacy seems to be the combination of the two