An introduction to the generator project.
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2018
- Welcome to one of the biggest projects I have ever had, well, heaviest at least!. this thing is a monster of a generator for a hobbyist, probably weighs 2.5 metric tonnes, and it needs a lot of work.
Sadly it looks like a winding is burnt out, at first I though the errant reading was damaged or shorted wiring in the cabinet, but one armature winding is toast, but it may still output 2 phases that we can use. if not, I will keep the skid, engine and radiator, the rest can be scrapped. - Věda a technologie
Looks like a fun project.
Great to see that you picked it up! Depending on how adventurous you feel, you might be able to find the shorted winding, pop the shorted turn apart, and re-lacquer it.
Unfortunatly it looks like the entire armature winding is torched, even has a 1/4" hole blown in it at one point. it might pose a problem if I want to run 2 of the phases into an inverter.
Nice, glad to see that you saved it, this is gonna be interesting to watch
I am so excited to see more of this. It looks like it's in good shape mechanically! This thing is going to be awesome!
Once you get it going and have some fun with it. It would not be that hard to replace the bad wynding. Just food for thought.
Congratulations, man! Sad to hear one phase is bad but crap happens. Beautiful pup.
Keep the vids coming. Been following you for years and years. Always enjoy your content.
I see u got it home
Can't wait to see it chooch
Hell yeah!
Glad you were able to drag er' home!
Now maybe you can rebuild that generator or mod some other generator to mate with that motor.
^.^
Great you got the genset safe at home. Look forward to hear it running. Try to keep the cables to the starter as short as possible, less Voltage drop and more torque for starting. I have been using Filmora editing since CZcams ditched the free editor. That works pretty good and costs $57 a year.
RODALCO2007 tried the free Kdenlive?
$57 a year is much more reasonable than Adobe suite that I hardly use. the battery cables are double the gauge of the old ones but that is a good point, I will shorten them when I build a battery box for it, after its mobile that is.
I think there is also an unlimited option for $85 and no expiry date, I tried for 1 year and am very happy with it. It takes all formats and very user friendly. Shorter starter cables are always the best option. Any extra milli Ohms wasted in cable losses will reduce torque at the starter motor.
Looking forward to seeing the process.
Good on you Ed for picking it up, I think this’ll be a really cool project. I’m looking forward to watching it progress and can’t wait for the first start and run :-)
That's a really nice machine - Super awesome that you got it home!
Glad you got this, makes for an interesting project. Glad to see you posting a bit more again too. I can only think the 2 "dislikes" are people who've come here through the Fallout streams and don't know what else we're into round here! Thanks for posting & good to know you're keeping head above water.
oh no the dislikes are always here, been here for 10 years or more :p
lol well, like or dislike it's all interaction I suppose.
Man i haven’t seen a video from you in so long!
Even with that one burnt winding, you've still got a crapload of capacity there, you could probably run several houses around you in the event of a major power failure... :D
That thing is awesome! Great save!
Those Ceramic fuses can be bought here in OZ .For the life of me,I cant remember their name but they carry all types and sizes in stock.. You could sell power back to the grid and say it's from your solar panels........
Good old diesel gen can't wait to see it run.
"It's heavier than it looks".
Well, it looks like a U-boat engine, so... yeah.
You did exceptionally well to get in to to your shop!
I really like it. Looking forward to seeing this running. Keep up the good work
So glad you got it, if I didn’t live in the wrong state I would’ve helped! Even with just 2 phases this thing could power a house!
Would be nice to see her restored, rewinding of genny might set you back a bit. I'm sure there's plenty of farmers out there with 2 phase pumps though.
yeh rewinding the armature would be pretty expensive, but it runs well now
Sent a small 70's electric chainsaw motor away years ago to the rewinder, that was worth a couple hundred then so I could only imagine how much it'll cost now for decent 3 phase number.
I can tell you that a 5 horsepower DC motor will run you about 6-8k to rewind (keep in mind that's USD) so rewinding that guy will be over 10k US easily.
hope you get it running and everything's working. fingers crossed
Looks pretty swell. I'm a fan.
Great Score. I would love a big genny like this even if it was complete over kill. Looking forward to the fire up Vid!
Cant wait to hear it running. Wow this thing is quite clean for its age. Good fun.
Brilliant. can't wait to see what you do with this
HI Ed, Zonie Here, been a long time since i commented. I like generators also, have several small ones myself. My oldest and largest is a 1920 Delco model 850 light plant. I see you have a new shop. Did you move ? Good to see your video again mate ! Take care
wish i found this channel earlier, also wish ed was still around
Glad you was able to get it bud. Can't wait to hear it run 😉
Sure hope you get time to do this project, looks fun.
looking forward!
Glad you were able to get it, could tell in that first vid you liked this bit of kit. Any way looking forward to this project, looking for a similar set up myself coming of the heals of a major hurricane here state side. Any way best of luck.
Damn what a huge thing to bring home!
Davinci Resolve - stupidly powerful editing (and colour grading) software, and Australian owned.
Can't wait to see some vids of this baby!
Sweet video mate keen to follow
Awesome! Wonder what Curie will think of that beast of an engine when it fires up? She'll probably keep well back!
Make a backup gen for the shop.
Awesome 👌👌👌
Hope all is going well
2 people didn't like this probably wanted it too looking forward to seeing the forthcoming videos
i love that huge machine
you need a tow truck , think of the crap you could do with it
oh absolutely, I would have way too many heavy toys :D
for us hobbyists, having a flatbed truck or a big trailer is quite dangerous.. as big heavy stuff that's difficult to shift goes cheap if you have the means to move it.. if Ed bought a tow truck next weeks video would be ex-USSR ZIL military truck: does it run?? build a pneumatically operated computer controlled band in the back of it and blag your way into a festival without having to pay :D
oh for sure, they had a massive old lathe there a while back that would have been a nice replacement for the Turret lathe, but no way to move it. probably weighed 5 ton.
That's the trouble around where I am, machine tools show up, but they are often things that you couldn't fit even in a large home shop. Things like industrial lathes that are 10'' or more between the chuck and the tail stock, or milling machines that are 15'' tall, giant drill presses, etc. . There were a number of machine shops that repaired logging equipment, or stuff for pulp mills, and they needed huge, expensive tools to do it.
Diesel runaway is scary
building a way to inject CO2 into the inlet would make a great video
heck ya that thing is a beast
Ed, I've said this before but use Davinci Resolve, or if you want very simple; Windows Movie Maker. It's what I use.
I'm glad you got this mega project in front of you, I look forward to more videos of the beast running!
It's the Putt-O-Volt 9000!
Keep a look out for a new alternator like it as replacement for it
As far as free video editing goes, I've been playing a little bit with DaVinci Resolve. It's super flakey on my W7 rig, but does do what I want it to...eventually.
Id still recommend giving it a crack though as at first glance, it appears to be fairly powerful.
This genny looks like great fun to play with, granted there's a way to stop her if she tries to run away.
Liked before it loaded...
At least with 415 2 phase you could run a 415v VFD and run 3 phase motors to full capacity
How feasible would it be to fit that big Westinghouse generator to it?
Oh fuk he got it home! Lol good project
sweet you got it, looks heavy as hell but if ya get workin on it post more vids.
Haaaa, back to the good vids ! :)
I remember at my old workplace they had 2 big generators, the engine was Detroit Diesel. and the brand was Onan, when it was fired up it was very LOUD and if you stood infront of the radiator real Hot air was blown at you. You could even feel the Vibration through the ground.
Sounds like it didn't run very smoothly.
This Generator was a very old unit by the way. I only saw it run a few times when I was working there. One time during Electricity restrictions.
If it goes runnaway... throw a brick in it... it even works for washing machines ;)
Sludge, otherwise known as black death! Fortunately not an issue for this gen set
RIP💔
this video gives me yanmar nostalgia
Did u ever get the other two legs working/ does it work for you yet? thanks for the vid
Use an 3-phase motor to generate the missing third pase. It's not as good as having "real" 3-Phase but at least you can run most 3-phase equipment.
Glow plugs look like the series loop type used in old Mercs etc. If they're M18 thread the Merc pencil conversion ones would fit if those ones are had it
god point, I am sure I could find or adapt standard plugs. I have a box full of ones for my ML270's OM612 engine. cheap and easy to get
@@Aussie50 Yea I bought some M18 bolts to do my own adapters but haven't gotten them onto the lathe yet
MiG21aholic
Nothing series about those plugs, they are all in parallel.
Michael Harman Thought I saw an earth strap at the radiator end...
They work still though going by the other video :)
Your one of the most australian people ive ever seen
I wonder if it would be economical to get the alternator rewound?
Probably not. It's stupidly expensive to get windings on heavy motors/generators rewound. At least in Europe.
The weight is the problem. There are not much companies today who have the equipment to deal with such heavy stuff.
Now you can charge your iPad.
Send it here to Adelaide so we can have cheap power :P
@6:24 Is that a Lombardini engine? Single cylinder diesel? That fuel tank looks familiar.
It is, it was also a scrap yard find, paid a 6 pack of beer for it and just had to replace a capacitor in the generator head, its very loud tho, air cooled ones generally are.
@@Aussie50 I've worked on one of these engines fitted to a pressure washer way back. A cold Irish morning trying to start that bugger was not fun. Even with the decomp it was a work out to turn over, no electric start. Had to remake the fuel tank straps, weld the cracked tank and replace the exhaust shield. Good engine but was shaking itself apart.
The Spider Kelly yeh this thing shakes and is very loud, its a good strong gen but it needs to be built into a cabinet with remote fuel and good sound suppression. it has no decomp but I can rope start it if I turn it just past TDC and rip on the rope
What he could have done is used the 2 good phases and simply and the single phase from the house and it in theory would have worked just fine.
Check out Shotcut for video editing. Pretty good.
Hey mate, for editing I would recommend davinchi resolve, made by black magic. Really good even tho it's free
How much would it cost to have it rewound?
that generator looks tired. how will you get your car out?
What free editing software will you be using?
yes need have some trailer wheels and a vehicle connection tongue
it`s worth sending it for rewinding, probably set you back a thousand $ at most. I always make sure I can choke down old diesel engine when they are shady and unknown condition
you could just put heavy duty castor wheels on , that frame looked pretty stout
the only free professional video editing software i heard is davinci resolve
what stops you from using a pirated version of adobe?
Yes, I thought of that too. Just torrent it.
There are many simpler and more suitable ways for nice and easy simple video editing. Adobe is not one of them.
Naftalina
RIP
you want to get good video editing software you go simple get AVS video editor . if you want Advanced video-editing go for Pinnacle Studio 21
Pity about the buggered winding, that will need to be repaired or replaced, your supposition that “two will be fine”, is completely false, the electrical load needs to be balanced in all three windings to ensure the mechanical drag is the same thru the entire 360 degrees of rotation of the alternator or it will shake fuck out of the set, think of it like loosing a wheel weight.
I may be incorrect, but diesel runaways only happen with turbo diesel engines right?
No every diesel engine can have a run away. It's because they are self igniting.
Put in fuel and air and it will run. With no load it will rev up until the crank, piston or cylinder head breaks.
Turbo diesel can and will rev higher before breaking because the turbo reduces the need of long strokes and heavy moving parts for the compression. A high revving compressor will create extreme high pressures. I've seen cylinder head parts blown trough a hood 10 meters in the air once.
Old diesel will often blow the head gasket before blowing up completely.
Oh god you paid for that heap?
I paid $100 for $600 of scrap. I cant loose :D
That is the generator I want but can’t get anywhere. I like old stuff
2 phases are useless. Have the generator rewound professionally. Should not be as expensive.