5 Locations In Fallout 4 That Should Have Been Settlements Commenter Edition
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Well we gave our opinion on locations that we should have been allowed to build settlements at in Fallout 4, but it seems like we didn't even come close to compiling a comprehensive list. thanks to an amazing amount of viewer participation we decided to honor the community here at Grey Gaming by listing some of the ones that weren't mentioned in our earlier video.
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Thicket Excavations or Dunwich Borrors. Horrible sites from a practical view, but the novelty of building a settlement inside a quarry would be awesome. Especially if the build limit was at the top to allow you to fill the hole to the brim.
at least at thicket, it's proven that the pumps work, so that could keep it from filling back up. but if those pumps ever died the whole settlement would slowly flood again.
Would be hilarious and horrifying of the cosmic monster that resides there does in-game weekly attack by possessing a bunch of you settlers to become raiders, or worse ferals. Like how can you destroy an Elder God even with a plasma-modded assault rifle!?
There’s a mod for thicket settlement I’m using rn. It’s pretty good but it won’t let you build on the stone, so place anywhere is pretty much required.
We have utapau at home....
Jk that would be rad
Thicket Excavations is a settlement, isn't it? There's a workshop there
The lore ideas of a settlement outside Vault 81 gives me big Vault City vibes from Fallout 2.
The idea that prospectors would trade things salvaged from the other vaults. Finding much needed parts and materials they wouldn't find elsewhere.
I'd like to throw the Atom Cats Garage in there for a part 2. They make a lot of sense given their knowledge of PA, their constant fights with the Gunners, and relationship with Warwick. They'd be a nice addition and if recruited you could have seen Minutemen in Power Armor roaming around.
There is a mod to make it a settlement
@@flimsypopcorn638theres a mod to make anything a settlememt we are yelling at bethesda no ourselves
I'll tell you one location that would have made for an interesting settlement: the Nakano Residence. Access to the workshop could have been a quest reward for bringing Kasumi home (you could even have had Kasumi persuade her dad to allow workshop access, given her obvious desire for community). The terrain isn't the best, but if enough real estate were available there would still be a decent amount of building space and it could have served as a logical port of call between Far Harbor and the Commonwealth. Lots of water allows for a lot of water purifiers to be put down; and depending on how far over the ocean the settlement extended there would have been plenty of space to build residences on the coastline and over the water itself, much like the Dalton Farm. The buildings already there would probably not be scrapable, but they could be utilized as part of the settlement itself.
(A similar argument could be made for the Nuka World Transit Center as a trading hub settlement between Nuka World and the Commonwealth, but only if the Nuka World Raiders are wiped out.)
That would be an interesting choice for a settlement there and almost certainly better than the not far off Coastal Cottage as the nearby trading store is one of the very few benefits CC has. What most players likely don't realize with the Nakano Residence is the beach northeast of the house extends for quite a long ways before the player reaches the edge of the map. There isn't really much in that area but it's a surprisingly large beach, flatter than Nordhagen Beach and with far less ground vegetation to clip into builds. I don't recall there being any mirelurks or other enemies there, and with how out of the way it is I spent awhile looking for secrets because it didn't make any sense of why such a large area has almost nothing in it.
I think the main reason Bethesda wouldn't have it be a quest reward is because depending on the player's actions the Institute, BoS, or the citizens of Far Harbor can destroy Arcadia (resulting in Kasumi's death each time) and even with a peaceful resolution to the island the player can convince Kasumi to stay. A way around that could be that perhaps the player could purchase the settlement property (for say a few thousand caps. Seriously it's not difficult for the player to break the economy and have a vast horde of wealth) if they don't want to or end up not bringing Kasumi home, or they could attempt to take it by force and bring direct conflict between Nick Valentine and the player.
I've used one mod that cleaned it up and made it a settlement, and I used it on several play-throughs and loved it. However, I am now using the much better Greekraged version, which is actually two settlements, and comes with so many extras. And yeah, obviously I agree the Nakano residence should have been a settlement you could unlock once you finished the quest (because giving her actual people for Kasumi to hang with would be the most logical things for her parents to do, so she wouldn't be tempted to leave again).
You should be able to just kill them & take it lol
Here's an idea for another video; NPC's that you should have been able to recruit as either settlers or even full-fledged companions.
Two words: Sentinel. Site.
- It's an open, flat area with plenty of space to build. The pyramid could be right in the center with the four concrete towers marking the edges of the settlement.
- There are no settlements in the Glowing Sea, making this potential settlement site very unique. You'd need to build some pretty tough defenses to prevent the various dangerous creatures there from getting in. It'd also be very useful in Survival Mode as the next nearest settlement is Somerville Place, fairly far out on the edge of the Glowing Sea.
As a fun gimmick, you could have it so that only Ghoul settlers can go there because of the radiation. I can imagine some really cool, all-Ghoul concrete fortress builds being made here.
But you can't sleep in radiation. Maybe the site could have a special gimmick "shield" which you activate from inside that shields from radiation
@@maggi98mw You could sleep inside the building, provided you were able to build there as well. That could be really cool to work with.
I like this idea, The thing that 'The Todd' missed was allowing us to build Leaded walls that negate radiation. Leaded Concrete that eliminates all environmental rads would be best.
I wish Libertalia could be a settlement. It has such a cool structure and interesting ex-Minutemen lore. I’m always disappointed when such unique locations are just used to house raiders and have no other purpose.
Libertalia would have been horrible to build at though, the ship is at an angle, the boats are strewn about randomly, and there is no solid ground.
I remember when I discovered Breakheart and I cleared the super mutants, I kept trying to figure why I couldn't make it into a settlement. It seemed like everything was there for one and couldn't believe it wasn't.
Yeah, I kept searching for a workstation that never existed.
I know it's kinda "Oh, no, Vault City repeat!" but I genuinely love the idea of creating a little trades town outside of Vault 88. It's both practical and lore friendly.
Leading the MM to take over Gunners Plaza would have been a wonderful opportunity.
Tbh I always wanted the Crater of Atom as a settlement site, sure it's a radioactive hellhole (literally) but the settlement build potential I think would be really high, both in terms of aesthetics, but also lore implication, given how it's the most obvious landmark closest to Virgil's cave.
I'd love to enclose the whole thing in a giant 5-story tall complex, but also scrap all the shacks and make it into some kind of radioactivity research center using Vault-tec stuff with the outer perimeter just bristling with turrets. It's not like the Glowing Sea has any other kind of settlement so you could feasibly be given massive build space both vertically and horizontally and there would be little performance hit, considering how utterly empty the surrounding area already is to begin with.
Just imagine the quality of NPCs willing to settle there. A settlement full of crazies is not happiness making.
As I said in the last videos comments, not really a settlement, but another alternative player home: Federal Surveillance Center K-21B. Being able to build a secret player home in a underground bunker out in the Glowing Sea just seems like a cool idea.
What annoys me is had they made the map a little bit larger you could have included Plymouth, Plymouth plantation, the mayflower, battleship Cove and the USS Massachusetts battleship, foxboro stadium ( Gillette stadium) Gloucester and the cape the map is so off scale its comical. But they could have created a much better map and took nuka world and threw it in the trash. That said they could have easily made places that were settlements buildable locations like Quincy , university heights, and the tower.
"Settlements that shouldve been expanded" as a video could be cool, taffington boathouse and the vault tec thing made me think about how many settlements couleve been better with expansions, I'm currently playing with two Jamaica Plain expansion mods since it had no water and would be good as a hub, the castle should've taken the lake and made ivans repairable, red rocket and sanctuary should've shared a boarder at the bridge so you could funnel people through
There's a ton of mods to expand settlements but I'd like to see your take, show the current lay out show the expanded lay out bam .
I find quincy, university point and outside of the glowing sea cave for vergil would've been good
Quincy is big, got a whole premade city settlement already working
University Point would be a good place for an either institute or post institute railroad settlement
Glowing sea would give you another slog like settlement.. add a few unique plants that only grow in high radiation as a logical food source along with a group of supermutants who need a safe home but away from humans.
Its an unmarked location but id have loved to see the floating raft as a location. Imagine building a floating city that would be a lot of fun.
Someone needs to work with Grey Gaming on some mods that include these things. Like his “5 ways to improve ___ “ series or these. I think they would be greatly appreciated by the community
Run with it.
im happy fallout vids are released still after how old the game is
Just a recent subscriber, I'm really liking your content so far. A workshop at West Everett Estates that touches, or overlaps, Taffington would be way cool.
Neponset Park could be a good one. Plenty of water, reasonably flat ground and an overhead pass road could easily be within the bounds. It's also close to a fair few other locations, and depending on how big the build zone is you could try a bridge to link up the Atom Cat Road aread, make it a bit safer/quicker. It is right down from Jamaica plains, but it could still work. With a decently high floor build/stack it could be a fairly decent settlement area.
I'm absolutely fine with the settlements as they are in the game already with one exception - Please Todd, in this update, allow us to scrap everything inside a settlement without the need for any mods to do so. Then, add build options, like walls for all current textures that are half as wide as the standard and floors in all textures that come in half and quarter slabs. Also, please add pieces with intact windows for all textures that currently only have "broken window" option. (ETA: I'd also like to be able to plant some trees that are native to the Commonwealth, as opposed to just the palm trees that were added to the build menu with the Virtual Creation Club mod.)
One concern I do have if we're given more settlement sites is how they would affect the ongoing random spawns of enemies in the game. Would more settlement sites "substitute" random encounter sites with settlement attacks. If that's the case, I would "tone down" the expectation that the player is notified of every settlement attack (which adds pressure on the player to defend these settlements). This mechanic gets annoying and derails story progress in the game as it is. Adding the potential for more and more attacks would just exacerbate this issue.
That could be solved by simply allowing the player to send reinforcements from whatever faction(s) they are friendly with to aid the settlements (potentially with results varying depending on the state of said faction(s)). Or just make it so that you can decrease the chance of an attack/increase the chance of a successful defense to effectively zero (instead of 50/50).
Interesting idea. It would be nice to be able to increase the chance of successful defence to 100% - and then to be able to turn off the notification pop ups regarding that settlement altogether. @@hanzzel6086
The forged location would instantly make the minutemen a very powerful faction
You should do a video on what locations could’ve been settlements in other fallout games if the settlements system were in other games or if fallout 76 settlements were in set locations like fallout 4
(I know I already said this but I wasn’t sure if you saw it and I think it’s a interesting idea)
it's a good suggestion. adding to the idea bucket.
@@Theegreygaming ok!!
I've played every Fallout game except FO 76 and I don't intend to play that one. So, I'm not enthused about including anything from there into FO 4. If it were included I would be ok with totally ignoring everything FO 76ish and continue playing FO 4 as I have been for the past 8 years. Kinda like when I went to the Institute one time, didn't like it, and have never gone back. I am totally anti Institute. I rate all but gen 3 synths (not coursers) the same as Raiders, feral Ghouls, Super Mutants and wild, deadly critters.
@@edmartin875 i detect extreme fallout 4 BOS fan. When I said fallout 76 settlements in fo4, I meant if the settlements from fallout 76 were like in fallout 4 and you could build towns there. Also, fallout 76 is actually fairly good. It’s not the best, but you shouldn’t overlook it
Honestly, the Galleria shouldn't be a settlement but it should be come a Trade Hub with new quests and stuff. You become the new manager of the place so what better way to get it working than to actually try to fix it up and make it nice and operable. it becomes a settlement that's not tied to the game system but through worldplay and gameplay
Fallout 4 really needed more of these areas. Instead of giving the base game 30 settlements or player houses instead give it 20-24 and then 4 or 5 areas that can become trade hubs similar to what Bunker Hill is before it becomes a player settlement. It would help give the impression that the player/Sole Survivor is improving things within the Commonwealth (since radiant quests are essentially unlimited and are just busywork) and also give a reason to revisit some of these rather unique locations.
@@jcohasset23 I like the game but there needed to be a lot more done in order to get it that feeling of rebuilding the Commonwealth right
Even with the demise of The Institute and The BOS and double the number of settlements I cannot envision the Commonwealth being rebuilt without some community effort to clean the place up some. Even if all player built settlements were in play with 20 or more settlers each, the NPC settlers do nothing without being assigned to a task, except Marcy Long never needs to be assigned to tend the garden. She takes that chore on her own. The rest of the settlers just shamble around complaining about their aches and pains and their dirty fingernails. You would think these adults never actually worked a day in their lives, and they really don't want to change that. @@marek1shtar538
I wish instead of "random" settlements we could rebuild more "special" places, for example:
- Poseidon Energy Turbine #18-F to create passive energy
- Weston water treatment plant to create passive water.
- A dam north of the Sunshine Tidings co-op could create passive energy/water
- Saugus Ironworks could be used to turn salvage into proper materials and basically restart industry in Commonwealth
- People have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years and they won't stop because of some nuclear war... place like Beantown Brewery/Gwinnett Brewery could be a gold mine
As for the "ordinary" settlements:
- Lynn Woods would be a good outpost, last safe place before leaving Commonwealth or first while entering from north. With that big tower, this place is begging to be set up as a outpost.
- Nahant have good connection to mainland and wall next to Nahant Red Rocket will make good place for checkpoint, Libertalia riders can be a problem, but a few rocket turrets will solve that. I would much more prefer this place instead of Spectacle Island
- Fort Hagen hangar and Fort Hagen satellite array these are fantastic places to make base, all of factions could benefit from this location one way or another and "solo" players will make cool secret base for themself. I don't know why Bethesda didn't give the opportunity to take over this place.
For the DLCs I still would like Old Pond House and the Ruined Church for Far Harbor. Both locations as settlements would give you someplace to go, unload and rest in areas of the map where there is literally nothing nearby without fast traveling and each main structure is still intact enough to use as a main base camp for a settlement, add some walls and turrets and a few shops and beds and you'd really have something. For Nuka World the Hubologist's Camp should have been a settlement build location no matter what you end up doing with those crazies. Overall decent spot for a farm or raider settlement. As would the Morton House outside Bradberton.
The other site I wish they had was an idea that got junked in the original game, the underwater vault. Depending on your choices in the quests located there you might get to develop it as a settlement site with a connecting minisub base with one of the major factions, The Castle, the Airport, or by the Atom Cats Garage if you went with the Railroad to the mainland or it might end up hostile or even destroyed, if you side with the Institute as the Institute sends you in Kellogg style to take some tech vital to the place's survival even if it means killing everyone there.
Fun fact, the general atomics Galleria is supposed to be the fallout version of my local mall. Also, a movie called Mall Cop was filmed there!
I sort my settlement wishlist in three sections: reclamation, consolidation, expansion. (Note: I am a minutemen fanboy)
Reclamation: the resettlement of settlements that once existed:
1. Lynn woods
2. Breakheart Banks
3. Salem
4. University point
5. Lake Cochituate village (unmarked)
6. Fairline hill estates
Consolidation: these are locations that would reinforce vanilla settlements by being located at road junctions to improve trade
1. South Boston military checkpoint
2. Lynn pier parking
3. Gibson pier point
4. Roadside pines Motel
5. College square
Expansion: these are locations that could be decent settlements.
1. Mystic pines
2. Rocky Narrows park
3. Neponset Park
4. Evan Ways cul-de-sac
A few settlement areas I'd love to see (so I can free up some slots in my mod list):
Listening Post Bravo
Lake Conchituate
The overlook behind ArcJet Sysems
The tiny circular island south of Bunker Hill
Personally I love these small and somewhat remote areas and their potential restrictions, it makes them slightly more challenging to work with but without making it an absolute chore.
Possibly the missle silo in the glowing sea you go to for a Brotherhood quest, specifically the Fatman holding room. After the quest is over and you're "finished" with Dance (however way you want) you could turn it into a giant version of Homeplate, or maybe a spot for any of the Factions to have a quest based off for needing a safe spot in the glowing sea without being just off the edge. It wouldn't be much of a trader send off point (obviously) but the lore idea I'd like to imagine would be nice, along with a bigger version of homeplate
I believe it was called Sentinal Site. Anyways, Brotherhood could move all the fatmen out and you'd start taking quests here, or another Faction could get there first, OR a Faction could want the Brotherhood removed, then the fatmen would be after an in-game week or so. Not perfect, but I imagine it would be decent
Your provisioner would need a couple of guards to help him/her get thru to clean air.
These would have been good locations. Maybe a remaster is in order.
Maybe the next gen update will update some aspects of the game (not just the graphics). One can only hope.
How about we just get another game that’s done much better than this one and leave it to modders to make this one great, because we don’t need more re-releases from a company that doesn’t care about fans or lore and only wants to make money. We need better games not better remasters.
@@jlooks95 There are mods that create more settlement locations but they are usually quite buggy. It would be much better if Bethesda themselves integrated more settlement locations into the game.
Best comment I've seen tonight.@@jlooks95
I think Bethesda considers Fallout 4 OBE and to be put on the fartherest back burner since it is no longer bringing in millions of dollars each week.@@youlooklikeagoodjoeyoulooklone
The one big thing that i kind of wish Fallout 4 did was not so much add new settlements build at but more actual established towns to visit with their own npcs, shops, and characters which Is another disappointment about covenant lol. It's like one place that I think would have been perfect for that, which is actually not even in Fallout 4 but is in actual Bostonbis td gardens, which is where the bruins and Celtics play and located south of bunker hill. Though I appreciate the many options for settlement building, sometimes I feel like fallout 4 can be a bit empty which it would of been nice to have recruit unique settlers that have character to bring to your settlement that you could meet out in the world or in another settlement. Also if I had to Pick a settlement that would be perfect for settlement build, it would have to be fiddlers green and the cemetery, creepy I know, but those structures were built to last and maybe fort hagen or the area around it
Madison Square Gardens would have been amazing but felt redundant after FO3 AND the use of Fenway.
And the lack of strong towns reflects the lore of the game: The Institute keeps towns either small or under their control.
@woodysmith2681 but that's the problem their are no small towns other than Bunker Hill and good neighbor, which aren't under their control. I think the only town that got on the bedside of the institute was the university point settlement, which they attacked because they had unique tech. Maybe td gardens could have been a large raider den or home to some sort of gang of merc group
Totally agree about the entrance to Vault 81. Stepping stone in part of a larger in world trade hub.
Brakehart Banks has a settlement mod for PC that works very well, this is also a Mod for Far Harbor that opens up more settlements. I never thought of Vault 81!
Glad to see the Eden Meadows Cinema make the list. As for suggestions for a future list, I'd like to re-state that the unmarked Natick Power Plant would make a great settlement due to not only location (it would be the only settlement anywhere near that section of the Western commonwealth, and would be in a perfect spot to provide artillery coverage for a large part of the Glowing Sea) and general buildability (I was able to establish a rather large settlement just inside the area originally surrounded by the chain link fence without it feeling too crowded using a mod that turns the location into a settlement), but lore as well, since it would make sense for, say, the Minutemen, BoS or even institute to want to secure & restore said power plant for their purposes. In fact, there is even special companion dialogue associated with the location when you first come across it, with Preston & X6-88 specifically mentioning how useful a working power plant would be for the Minutemen & Institute, respectively.
Two others that would have been good are Fiddler's Green Trailer Park (for similar reasons to the Natick Power Plant, i.e. being in a location devoid of settlements, lots of relatively flat build area, etc) & at least part of Salem, again, due to there basically being nothing in that area, and it would have made a far more satisfying conclusion to Barney Rook's quest (maybe even get him as your first settler!)
Personally i built a settlement smack bang on the CIT ruins for institute playthroughs. The buildlimits encompass the walls fully, and extended down to the river. I basically built like 50 turrets on the walls, pointing inside and out, water purifiers in the river and a trading hub along the street. Close to the walls i built rooms for the settlers, basically going mostly vertical up the wall to use as extra protection, with the middle being a giant farm. Worked very well.
I'm gonna assume you used the mod that allows you to place a Workshop anywhere. Yeah, that's definitely a good area.
@@MitsukiTakeda yeah i did, should have mentioned that
concord would have been a great town settlement, also i like how we even continue to shit on bethesda with their settlement logic of being unable to scrap certain entities that existed in the settlement before you get there, like the meat bags of super mutants
Yes, this was excellent, I would like seeing more.
My picks, Salem, Boston Mayoral Shelter, USS Riptide, Atom Cats Garage, Wildwood Cemetary
I honestly forgot that theatre existed in far harbour 100% should’ve been a settlement. Another place that should’ve had more settles was Nuka world, it feels so empty and worthless for minutemen players
It's a neat area in Far Harbor. My only complaint is that like with so many places in Far Harbor it's in the middle of nowhere and so it's always a hike to get anywhere if you aren't using fast travel.
A bit further from Mirkwater Construction site, there is a structure like a tree house that have a fallen Minuteman
that place could be a settlement instead of Mirkwater or Somerville Place
or some sort of settlement that focus on shrimping
The place that always yell out to me whenever I go past it, not so much as a settlement but more as a player home is the little parking setup just down a level in front of Corvega.
Reasonable little concrete room, secluded indoor courtyard, semi detached carpark.
It's not huge but it's goddamn perfect.
i love that i keep coming back to watch these
Fantastic video and that little nod to outside Xbox made me spit out my drink!
I think the Evans Way Cul-de-Sac would’ve been an ok location for a settlement. It’s in downtown Boston and while it doesn’t have a lot of space, most of the space is open which would allow for unobstructed buildings going to the hight limit.
I do think the Nuka-World transit center would’ve been a good place for a settlement. There’s a fair bit of open space to build in. While the Cherry Garage is mostly beyond repair, I could see being able to clear out the rubble from the Quantum Garage.
I think Huntress Island could also be a viable settlement location. It seems fairly similar to Longfellow’s Canon, at least according to the fallout wiki/fandom. There’s plenty of dirt for farming and water for purifying (it’s an island). The buildings also seem in somewhat ok condition and have enough distance between to at least build a couple shacks in between and around. From a lore perspective, it could be said that Huntress Island is far enough and depressed enough from the main island to not have any fog, or it could be turn back the fog 2, or it could be that there were previously inhabitants who had fog condensers but all the previous habitants died somehow.
The edge of the glowing sea seems like a terrible settlement location, but it might not be. The crumbling overpass is an overpass and I think you like them (according to all settlements ranked vid). There’s plenty of dirt to farm and the area is unobstructed allowing for any building you want. It does also provide an excellent jumping off point for the glowing sea (I assume I don’t do “jumping offs” I just fast travel right to the location or the nearest location if I don’t have it)
Evan’s home is (I think) a lore friendly and good location for a settlement. It has plenty of scrap and a fully intact structure. It would also presumably have one settler automatically (Evan) and would double the amount of currently available settlements in Nuka-World (there’s currently 1 if Evan’s home was added it would be 2). From a lore perspective, you could say Evan used the workbench to build the home and if your nice to him or kill him, you gain access to the settlement.
That’s 5 locations (an entirely new top 5 list)
A made a couple “5 locations that should’ve been settlements in (fallout 4, Far Harbor, Nuka-World)” and I think there’s about 29 or 30 unique locations I’ve mentioned so far. I did try to seriously think about each location and how good of a settlements it would be instead of “no interior cell = automatic good settlement”
Actually, some are mentioned on this video (which I excluded from the list before) and there’s a couple in this video I was planning on using
I’ll list all the locations here
Nuka-World:
Dead End Houses
Pool House
Evan’s Home
Red Tent Camp
Northwest maintenance buildings
Far Harbor:
MS Azalea
Fringe Cove Docks
Wave Crest Orphanage
Oceanarium
Commonwealth:
Nahant Wharf
Mystic Pines
Hillside Home (Costal College Pt. 2)
Wicked Shipping Fleet Lockup
Shenley’s Oyster Bar (Hangman’s Alley Pt. 2)
Greater Mass Blood Clinic
Weatherby Savings & Loans
Cambridge Church
Drumlin Diner
Coast Guard Pier
Fiddler's Green Trailer Estates
Fairline Hill Estates
Peabody House
Now, this guy knows what he's talking about
@@marcosmaximum9719 ? Wdym i don’t understand
@SaidNoGaming In short, I'm agreeing with your list
There was several mods that allowed settlements in Mystic Pine, Fiddler’s Green Trailer estate, Natick Powerstation, Fairline Hill estates etc. Not sure if they’re still up at nexusmods.
@@marcosmaximum9719 oh ok thxs
The USS Riptide (I think that is the name of the crashed barge) the flat platform would be nice for building, we have dirt plots, and easy to imagine the minutemen/brother hood/railroad want to control one of the few crossing of the Charles
General Atomics Galleria would be my pick for a settlement spot. I've actually used it as a settlement before using the mod Conquest that let's you create your own settements.
Alright, in the original video I suggested making Nuka World like Vault 88, and while I still think it'd be cool to build in every park, I'm suggesting Fizztop Mountain and Fizztop Grill, even when doing a Raider playthrough, I never really used it as a player home despite it being where Coulter, the previous Overboss, using it as his castle, so why not build up in that area, build turrets that would attack whichever raider gang turns on you at the end, while since it's in Nuka World proper, you can assign slaves to say growing crops or something like that, or "recruit" the Level 4 vendors to basically be your personal servants in your customizable castle, overlooking the park, make it the best of both worlds
Honestly, I am digging it. Keep going! As for my votes: Atom Cats Garage. This would be closer to something like the Castle where you can mod somethings but not everything. (I also like the Atom Cats as a recruitable faction, not necessarily one of the big 4 but that's another issue). Fiddler Green Estates, which again, has a little room to grow and is close to other things but is also pretty much ready for habitation should you clean it up. Salem. Again after dealing with the crabs and the one person who has been holding out for decades alone (who might be a recruitable mayor) it's a place perfect for a settlement, granted one of the most northerly ones. It can be argued it's too close to the lighthouse but look how close your first 3-4 settlements are (Sanctuary, Red Rocket, Abernathy Farm). I might add East City Downs but it is VERY close to Norhagen Beach so.. too close. Oh last one. And there is a mod for this that I liked: Fairline Hill Estates. it is so central to everything south of the city, has inhabitable housing, a massive culdesac which is ready for cultivation and only occationally get's yao-gui attacks or supermutant raids from the hosiptal area.
There was a mod to allow Fiddler’s Green becoming a settlement. It was one along Natick Powerstation, and several others.
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I used to make a wooden bridge from Sanctuary hills towards Abernathy (usually also put a guard tower attached to it on the island to the right of the bridge) and from the other edge of sanctuary to the opposite shore to the left of red rocket. If you use the pillar and rug glitches you can swing the whole thing out by placing the "base" part inside the buildable area. Iirc the catch was once you put down the base item you couldn't pick the whole thing back up so you had to save before placing but I remember having escape and tactical bridges on my clean save
I'm bad as names but here, first off Far Harbor:
Brookshead lighthouse. Far south west map.
Far harbor dock itself once you have fortified it and helped the people.
Vip pop factory, lore being to restart making the soda.
Southwest harbor, the main trappers base or operations.
Cranberry bog farm, biggest pre war farm on the island.
Hunters Island.
Fringe cove docks.
Now the Commonwealth:
Cambridge cratoer.
Fiddlers green estates.
Wattz consumer electronics, this could be a external and internal settlement.
I always use the Conquest mod to build a settlement at Charles River Lock and Dam. The settlement usually ends up being linear and tall, running the length of the dam.
4:56 you could do the barn bridge connecting two buildings (like two tall buildings in Abernathy farm)
I'm still pushing for Boston Public Library. :-) Plenty of growing space between the rooms and the central section that is already 90% of the way to being a greenhouse.
I'd try and make one of the remaining towers in the Boston Financial District a build area, like the Baxter Building after the USS Constitution crashed into it. Or the Mass Fusion building at the conclusion of the Nuclear Option quest. You literally get access to the top three floors during that quest if you side with anyone. Makes sense that the tallest building in the game serve as the seat of power for the most powerful, and influential, character as a show of power to everyone in or around the Commonwealth.
*Edit: Trinity Tower is the tallest building in the game, but that one is occupied by Supermutants. And the only time anyone goes there is to recruit String during their playthrough.
I used the settle everywhere mod to build a settlement on one of the parking buildings close to taffington, and on the quarry at dunwich. Both were a blast to build.
Far Harbor; The Ruined Church (there is a patch to make it a settlement and Sim Settlements 2 had a design contest for it). The cranberry island where you ge the little girl's letters.
Nuka; The Giant Fire Hydrant where the Hubologists once lived. Also the junkyard they move to. Or by the TV tree. Evens Home, and the Northpoint Reservoir.
Vanilla; Salem. Fort Strong. The roads above Goodneighbor. There is a spot by Covenent where a mole rat attack spawns and a couple of settlers try to fight it off (Rotten Landfill?). Either way they wander off and it just sits abandoned. Lynn Woods. Outside or inside of the sanitarium Jack built. Bunker Hill.
That skyscrapper where the flying ship lands afer helping robot captain.
Considered there are Mods allowing all Red rockets and Train stations to be settlements.
And the sheer realism in this for Trade and Defense outposts.
All Red Rockets and Train Stations should be Settlements.
%100 Breakheart Banks and a part of Nahant and Quincy. Perfect locations if you want that ready built look.
Also, another site suggestion: rather then the Boston Commons itself, right-off the commons is the entrance to the Combat Zone - the exterior is already set-up to have some folks there (it almost looks like Beth changed its mind about having exterior guards). More easy to defend than the Commons itself, with an opening right to the Commons so you could even include a bit of it (and make that generator repairable!) And I can't believe you didn't include the AC garage - how they left that out of the vanilla settlements is mind-boggling!
I agree with all of these but would also suggest:
1. Lyn Woods
2. College Square
3. Quincy Ruins
4. Salem
5. The Amphitheater
6. Cabot House Surrounds
7. Mystic Pines
8. University Point
9. Fairline Hills Estate
10. The unmarked village adjacent to the Nuka World station.
Imagine an interesting feature with a settlement at General Atomics Galleria with the eyes of the Mr Handy being giant moving spot lights and it a mission to build it…
I would have liked a player home to build in for the chosen faction in the Institute, Old North Church, or within the Prydwen
If you could repair the institute ruins, I could see this being plausible as the institute itself is already constructed to be a certain thing.
Outside of Vault 81 is a perfect spot, my first time using the conquest mod to make custom settlements that's the first place I thought of.
There is a mod that features this location. I posted it and called it "Olivette Township".
G'day again Grey Gaming,
I would say a Part II or even a Part III would be a good idea & on a similar note maybe a small/ miniature/ player home settlement location video would be an excellent idea.
In other news I remembered the name of a location I mentioned in the last video but it's the Rooftop Terrace, That imo could've made a cool little settlement being rasied above the Boston streets outta harms way and probably would've made a peaceful respite for the SS or a smol community, For it has some space for maybe a few overhang buildings like on some of the raised highway like at hub 360 & or renovate the old building to, it has iirc a pond for water and a nice plot of land for crops.
Added bonus the monorail for access to other locations & if it was made a settlement they could remake the scaffolding into a staircase to the ground floor for steet access.
Eden is too big since the Fah Hahbah lore requires Fog Condensers and would require a ton for all that land and no water. The locations there were always meant to be difficult ones as a result.
You do bring up an interesting point about trade-offs and sites that could be better than the nearby alternatives (cough trade Hangman's Alley for Vault 81 cough). I suspect that Fallout 5 will involve settlements but I'd love to see "earning" either Workshops to be placed or the "missing components" to repair a limited number of workshops to give choices. And there being more locations to chose from than possible Workshops.
One plot idea I'd love to see is similar to Troubled Waters but instead offers a choice between pumping the water out of a (partially) flooded area that becomes a settlement OR restarting a hydro-electric station and gaining control over a reactivated workshop nearby. Like a choice between Weston Water Treatment or Forest Grove.
I recommended West Everett Estates last time and I am happy it appeared on here. Now I can recommend another one only this one is going to be very tedious to obtain. The location I'm referring to this time is Hyde Park. Sure I mentioned before that it is over flooded with water but at least it is bigger than Jamaica Plain and the whole water thing can be worked around.
There could've been a side quest where you not only defeat the raiders led by Scutter, but also drain the water very much like you would at Thicket Excavations Quarry while still keep some kind of water source for purifiers. The church nearby could've been a perfect location to set up the workshop and it would've been a perfect Minutemen settlement due to it being close to Quincy. It would also be a perfect location for The Brotherhood of Steel and The Railroad since both are keen on the whole technology thing and Gunner Plaza was once a radio station building. So whichever faction you align yourself with could used it to relay signals.
Not to mention The Railroad has some connection with Quincy as well due to the dead drops as seen in their Augusta Safehouse quests and Hyde Park is walking distance from University Point.
I would like to suggest the MS Azalea.
Even though its a really broken ship, it could make a good defensive place and also could have a good flat surface to build a hub above it after scrapping the containers, while some other stuff would be under it.
Also a quest to make some improvised hull repairs to keep it intact.
I would suggest an entire ship actually, but a "small" challenging site its interesting too.
Suggestion for another video idea
Areas in other fallout games that would make excellent Settlements.
Keep up the amazing work!
Fiddler’s Green Trailer Estate could be a good settlement for fallout 4
Loved this video! I wish Concord, Lexington and Quincy were settlements too.
I've come across mods that open up Breakheart Banks, West Everette Estates, Eden Meadows, & General Atomics Galleria all as settlements. The only issue with any of them is how Breakheart Banks was coded, as the corn and melon plants have to be stored and replaced in order to not get any CTD when assigning a settler to work them. And of course there's the lack of viable cleanup in some instances (like recycling Breakheart's shanty).
TBH when it comes to crops, and settlements, storing and replacing the crops is something that everyone should be doing. I say this because there is a bug that if a crop gets destroyed, it can bug out, and prevent you from fixing them. Instead I use the method that YTber: Sardeliac uses. You get a settlement, put everyone in guard duty or on a scrapping station. Then dig up all existing crops, and store them. Then place back the ones you want, how you want. Then I assign settlers to farming duty. When the replanted crops get destroyed, you will now be able to repair them without the bug.
My #1 is Nahant Plaza. That part of the map is practically deserted. The plaza has multi story businesses surrounding a large open space. Nahant is at the Northern edge of The Glowing Sea, which would give players a second settlement site to stage from. Maybe it could have had a cool mechanic, since it’s in one of if not the most dangerous area, that makes raids there more dangerous. An “advanced” settlement, that takes some skill to defend.
Though I can't remember the name off the top of my head, I think the one quarry that you have to drain of water that eventually becomes a raider base by Concord would be really cool. I saw the limestone blocks outside the entrance, and thought "emergency shelter"
Thickett Excavations 100% should have had a settlement.
@@kyleellis1825 Totally. You even have some houses and beds already there, plus water holes to place purifiers in.
@@jasontoddman7265 We have a couple mods for Thicket Excavations that do turn it into a settlement. The one with the Thickway rifle just lets you build in the whole area but settlers don't like the top.
One mod breaks the top and bottom into different settlements.
And another upgrades the quarry so it looks like a real construction site. gets a eally cool bridge and stuff.
Thanks for the good video greygaming
Two of these settlements candidates have mods to make them into settlements that i have used personally. Eden Meadows Cinema and General Atomics Galleria. Both work well. The Eden meadows one, that movie clips playing gets maddening after a time. So download the mod to disable or mute the movies. Also dont download the mods or versions of them that let you scrap everything. It makes those settlements buggy AF. The roofs in General Atomics Galleria are navmeshed too so you can build on top of them and settlers will walk up top. The main settlement attack spawn point for both is on the road. So put most of your turrets at the main road entrance. Each has one other spawn point that i know off. Most of the time they just walk around to the main entrance anyway. The General Atomics Galleria robots are not marked regular settlers/robot settlers. They can die and have bits of armor blown off. I dont think they even count to your settler total. Also dont think you can fix them with the robot workbench.
I would have loved to build up Breakheart banks. the way it's setup it's easy to assume that it was originally meant to be, and someone just forgot to add in a workbench or something. I honestly don't even mind it's shack. it's clearly not nearly as big of a pain as say, hangman's alley. thicket escavations, maybe the trainstation, fairlane hills estate, university point, fiddler's green, libertalia maybe big jim's scrapyard would have also been nice. then again so would quincy and/or the peabody's. of course there are also those collections of boats and rafts floating around that at some point were definitely lived in and a couple that even had crops. there should have definitely been more in far harbor and nuka world as well.
There's a mod you can install where your settlements end where you say they do. That will allow you to actually build towns and bridges across rivers.
Im so happy you made a another video, think you can make a part 3?
I love these kind of videos
Eden Meadows Cinemas in Far Harbor was a missed opportunity for a great settlement in the game. I always use a workshop anywhere mod as well as a mod that gives me fog condensers and build a settlement there.
Lyn woods I was so disappointed when I learn it was not a settlement
They really should have had a tier system, in which places like sanctuary hills and west everett estates could be towns and places like hangmans alley/Jamaica plain were outposts and others could be farms.
I mean you could build your settlements like that if you link them all together with supply lines they don't need their own area to produce crops or water
Literally fair line hill estates would be an absolutely great settlement
Wouldve liked a settlement in the glowing sea tbh
Vergil cave for a minuteman/railroad build would be good, he helped with those two and they're the more accepting groups, he needs protection and supplies, make a group of supermutants in need of a safe home who can farm some form of nuclear fruit and bam
There's a cut super mutant refuge sites that was in the glowing sea. I really wish it was in the game though.
Problem with glowing sea settlements is that both canonically and via game mechanics anything not immune to rads should be dead within a day (if rads affected anything but the player, as they should) .
@@T1ttyLedzkek he hate the toaster loving hippies
Quincy Quarry. Just because main Vault exit is pain in the butt after you unlock it.
Call me insane but like I would really love a glowing sea settlement, think how cool the potential challenge of trying to build up a settlement in the glowing sea would be I think it has a lot of potetnal
Love the idea of outside vault 81 i didnt read the comments of last video but i might have to create something for this. I never cared to much for the vault since you got a tiny room. And a possible permanent de-buff. How ever link it to sim settlements, some custom ai generated dialog and making the overseer come out maybe some scripted event squables that can cause "realtion issues" and boom its a fun mod.
Ms Azalea, Cranberry Island or Huntress Island should have been settlement spots too, especially since there aren't any available on the south side of the Far Harbor Island.
There's a mod I've come across that opens up several locations in Far Harbor for settlements, though Cranberry and Huntress islands aren't there's nearby Sutton Island that is.
Yeah the lack of settlements or trading sites on the south end of the island really means it's worth going to those areas only once and that's unfortunate as there are quite a few really unique area there that would be enjoyable to revisit, especially if it wasn't such a slog to travel down to there.
Everything you listed, except one is a I wish they would have given this as a settlement place. There was so much missed opportunity in this game with the rebuild this great nation of ours narrative.
the fact that the Norwegian Ship could not be a potential settlement or a Pacifist option isn't available for that mission speaks volumes
Eden Meadows Cinema has the potential to be a fortress almost as good as the Castle. Up on high ground, the exterior perimeter is fairly easy to wall. And then you could connect the two screens with a second wall or row of buildings to make a second defensive line. The screens and projector houses are ideal sniper towers...
I use the mod Conquest and actually do build at some of these locations.
Salem instead of costal cottage it even has cool post war settlement items already
Great content. And i agree with almost all of it but I personaly think your view on vault 81 would be better described as a castle. the vault as the hevaly defendable keep and the surounding town becoming the rest of the castle behind some sort of wasteland makeshift wall or defences as a difrent part of the vault comunuty, rather then 2 diffrent towns and comunitys trying to live symbioticly on top of eatchother
I've had a lot of fun with coastal cottage. I build basically descendign terraces down the side of the slope.
The Galleria could actually do as a settlement in the way of Goodneighbour and Diamond City.
The Quarry outside Vault 88 should have been part of the Vault 88 Settlement from the Beginning. Its ridiculous to keep it an irradiated Raider warren. :/
"There's a Mod for that."
There are mods, good stable ones, for many of these places, which is awesome.