What on Earth Happened to the OLD Egyptians?
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2019
- They say that the Egyptians are as old to the Romans as the Romans are to us today, but they're actually far, far older than that, but just what happened to the old community of Egyptians who built the pyramids, wrapped the mummies and built some of the most memorable dynasties the world has ever seen.
The Egyptian history is a fascinating one, albeit one that is today steeped in significant political and religious bias, so in today's video we'll be looking into what really happened without spin or slant. Let me know your thoughts on the ancient and modern Egyptians. Thanks for watching!
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Coptic Egyptian is still spoken as the liturgical language in the church of Alexandria
Some of the hymns even retain cultural elements of pre-Christian Egypt, such as hymns about christ almost being word-for-word identical to ancient hymns to Ra
I have seen some Egyptian people who clam they can speak Coptic fluently and that they learned it when they where young children.
@ghebreluel True. I thought it was obvious though since Coptic is even written in a Greek alphabet
@ghebreluel Obviously even if Coptic had no Greek loanwords (stemming from the fact that most of the Early Christian terminology was Greek and all) it would differ MUCH from the Egyptian spoken by the time of the Pharaoes, because language changes of the time.
Daniel Campbell They were black
I think they died. They were pretty old.
@@ramialchaer6019 wosh
Tank you for the in depth analysis
Franktaku this is the best answer to a long debated question by historians and scientist. Wow
your joke gave me aids
no they probably died young
When I visited the pyramids and the city of Cairo in Egypt the Nubian communities were extremely interesting. They had extremely old origen stories and were the original cultivators of coffee according to their cultural history.
Yeah because the spanish and other european groups got coffee from Africa. Same with chocolate, toothpaste, etc
Yeah Nubian's and Sudanese are known for cultivating coffee yemenese are included too
@@Decordelights__ there was a large transfer of knowledge between the arabian peninsula and north Africa.
@@skullsouljah2836 I agree, this is why i didn’t like the way this presenters take on Afro-Asiatic and the mean. It’s one great ethic group
Coffee has always been Ethiopian from Kafe Region.
Mentions Cleopatra.
Shows Nefertiti.
Okay then.
@saracen Tk Shut it LMAOOOO
@saracen Tk Cringe.
@saracen Tk He's Iranian?
I think he just reads Wikipedia article and genetics blog articles on the internet and then reads them aloud for videos. The pronunciations are usually awful too.
@ⲁⲧⲥⲉⲙⲛⲓ what expertise are you finding here that can not be read off a google page? An expert would know how to pronounce things a little better. I think you can tell from the videos he's had no academic conversations on this topic.
The character of the United States has changed dramatically just in the last 200 years. Egypt is *THOUSANDS* of years old. They are so old, that Cleopatra lived closer to our own time, than she lived to the time of the pyramid builders. To Cleopatra, the pyramid builders were even more ancient than Cleopatra is to us.
And Egypt was already ancient when the pyramids were built.
If you had a time machine that could go back it time at the rate of 1 year per second, the following table will tell you how long it would take to go back in time far enough to witness historical events.
4 minutes 3 seconds to see the signing of the Declaration of independence
15:53 seconds to see the Norman invasion
33:39 to see the birth of Christ (assuming he existed, or to see any other random birth from 2019 years ago)
1 Hour 16:48 to see the first Pyramids of Giza built
about 2 and a half hours to see the first organised society that would later become what we think of as Egypt.
Eric Taylor wow
Not to mention the last Woolly Mammoths were still around when the pyramids were built. Just pointing that out.
I will say one thing is that it is a fact Jesus existed. Wether he is God or not can not be scientifically proven but the accounts of Jesus can be found written down by Jewish historians, not just Christian ones, and the Romans also wrote down that he died.
Also there are literally thousands of letters found from the first century that talk about him written by mostly Christians talking to fellow Christians but also by some Jews as well so it is a fact Jesus existed. The Apostles did not make up his existence and then went and all died terrible deaths in the name of a man they made up in a conspiracy theory
@@thewestisthebest6608 Jesus can be found written down by Jewish historians, not just Christian ones, and the Romans also wrote down that he died.
No, there is not. There is stuff that could possible be Jesus that is contemporary to him, but nothing that actually identifies him specifically.
In fact, several of the documents that mention people scholarship have said was Jesus are actually several different people when examined more closely.
As to the thousands of letter you mention, you mean thousands of pieces of letters. *ALL* of the documents that have been said to mention Jesus are *FRAGMENTS* some of these fragments are just a few letters, not even enough to identify what word they were a part of, let alone a name.
I'm sorry to say that the case for the existence of Jesus is not nearly as strong as Christians like to pretend.
The fact alone, that the evidence for Jesus has been grossly exaggerated tells us that scholars have experienced quite a bit of confirmation bias.
Not one mention of the Jesus of the Bible is contemporary with him. In fact, there are a lot of holes in his story as well. Later accounts of Jesus are more detailed than those accounts closer to the time he was said to have lived. And many of those accounts have historical anomalies. Such as mentioning practices that were not done at the time, but adopted later.
It seems to me that the oldest accounts of Jesus date only to the second century. It seems the myth of Jesus was first created several decades after his life would have ended and elaborated on by later generations.
So no, I personally don't believe Jesus ever existed at all. If he did exist, he would have had to be several different people.
Have you ever seen a frapping good movie called Bat 21? It stars Gene Hackman as a high ranking crewman from a shot down airplane and Danny Glover as the shit hot FAC who helped rescue him.
The story is true, but the Danny Glover character is made up. This was done simply to move the story along. Everything Danny did in the movie was done in real life, but it was done by several different people.
It's a great film but the book is even better. I think you'd enjoy it.
Sorry, bout that. Got distracted. It would seem that Jesus might have been like the Danny Glover in Bat 21.
For some reason I got Danny Glover confused with Danny Sullivan. How I could mix up a black actor with a white race car driver, I do not know. I think I fixed it, but there might still be a Danny Sullivan up there. If there is, just know I meant Danny Glover.
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3:05 that is Nefertiti, not Cleopatra ;)
RIGHT
Yes that’s right. I immediately recognise Nefertiti by her bust.
You mean the forgery!...........that shit is as phony as ole pale skin Jesus Christ! 😡👊🏾
Jazz marcel do you have proof of that?
@@Jazzmarcel please go away dude. You make black people look bad
I'm Egyptian. I had this question since I was very young, I've asked people who know about this many times, even egyptologists, I searched on Google, I even did DNA tests, and the answer is the following: yes, both Muslims and Christians are the same people who built the pyramids and met the pharaohs. Egyptians are as Arabs as Spanish or Turkish people, they were conquered by Arabs and they are 5-10% Arabs, but that doesn't make them Arabs. When Greece conquered Egypt were the Egyptians Greeks? Where the Egyptians Romans when Rome conquered Egypt?
Egyptians are Egyptians!
No the reality is Archaeological evidence simply does not the support the common misconception that Middle Easterners and certainly not Europeans were present or seen in notable numbers during the Pre-Early Dynastic periods.
Major academia such as Oxford and Cambridge university claimed that ancient Egypt was African and originated from populations from the Sahara and Sudan. These universities made these conclusions decades before DNA testing. They based these claims om archaeology, linguistics and the history of the region.
Just like Egypt isn’t homogenous, America isn’t homogenous lol. Egyptian and American are nationalities, not races. I’m American, I’m not a indigenous Native American Indian tho. It’s the same concept
d puski I ignored that post too bro
d puski
National Geographic states on this link that I’ll post below that
*North African share the same genetics as those in West, central, and South Africa. Prehistorically, the earliest people to settle northern Africa came from the south, the more fertile birthplace of humanity. Despite the constant movement of peoples across the Mediterranean, North Africa maintained a biological connection to groups farther south which is evident in the remnants of old lineages associated with West and central Africa*
Source below
genographic.nationalgeographic.com/regions-next-gen/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNA-tested_mummies
They found E1b1a in these mummies
today almost exclusively found in Ethiopia. E-M2 is the predominant subclade in *Western Africa, Central Africa, Southern Africa and the African Great Lakes, and occurs at moderate frequencies in North Africa and Middle East*
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/185393
It has already been proved genetically, linguistically, historically, artistically, etc. All the genetic studies just to name a few... from *Marin et. al. 1999, Hawass et. al. 2012, DNA Tribes/JAMA 2012, and DNA Tribes/JAMA 2013* have resulted in unamed predynastic rulers and named rulers such as Ramses III (19th Dynasty) and Tutankhamen and Amenhotep III (18th Dynasty) as *Africans who most closely match indigenous African ethnic groups from The Great Lakes region, South Africa, West Africa, the Sahel, and the Horn* i'll post those studies i named including additonal ones
One of many successful studies was performed on ancient mummies of the 12th Dynasty, by Dr. Svante Pääbo and Dr. Anna Di Rienzo, which identified descent, some of which originated in Sub-Saharan Africa
*Sääbo, S. and Di Rienzo, A.: A molecular approach to the study of Egyptian history. In:Biological Anthropology and the Study of Ancient Egypt Eds : Davies, V. , and Walker, R.),British Museum Press, pp. 86-90 (1993)* and referenced here infogalactic.com/info/DNA_history_of_Egypt
Here are a bunch of other studies
www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02-01.pdf
www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf
www.monitor.co.ug/artsculture/Reviews/Ancient-Egyptian-Pharaohs-related-to-Ugandans---DNA/691232-2419938-lf2y6h/index.html
infogalactic.com/info/DNA_history_of_Egypt
newsrescue.com/dna-evidence-on-egyptian-pharaohs-ramses-iii-a-sub-saharan-african-black/#axzz54JLRNiBM
Royal Family Black African ORIGINAL DATA FOR THE DNA Ancestry and Pathology in King Tutankhamun's Family. jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/185393
dnaconsultants.com/king-tut-gene/
*Tutankhamun actually carries a “double dose” of the allele named for him. Like most of the other genes in the family, it is Central African in ancient origin*
dnaconsultants.com/thuya-gene/
The Thuya Gene - DNA Consultants
*One of the autosomal ancestry markers prominent in the Royal Egyptian families of the New Kingdom, this not-so-rare gene is Central African in origin and was passed to Thuya from her forebears, Queens of Upper and Lower Egypt and High Priestesses of Hathor, the Mother Goddess. Thuya passed it to her grandson Akhenaten and great-grandson Tutankhamun, among others, as documented in a forensic study of the Amarna mummies by Zahi Hawass, head of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Cairo, in 2010*
dnaconsultants.com/akhenaten-gene/ *The Akhenaten Gene, like others in the Amarna mummy series, is African in origin*
Their genetic origins are equally matched to modern-day inner Africans and always have been. Ramses III (and a son, believe to be Pentewer) genetically matches modern-day Africans in the Great Lakes region, South Africa, and West Africa the closest. Their haplogroup, as per the Hawass et. al. 2012 study, is E1b1a - the most predominant branch in Africa south of the Sahara.
www.academia.edu/2308336/Revisiting_the_harem_conspiracy_and_death_of_Ramesses_III_anthropological_forensic_radiological_and_genetic_study
Genetic test of the Amarna elite, including Amenhotep III and his grandson Tutankhamun, match Southern Africans, followed by Great Lakes, and West Africans the closest which are in the DNA tribes link.
*An Old Kingdom disease study* by Marin et. al. 1999 found that predynastic remains had the sickle cell disease strand that is classified as the Benin strand today in West Africa
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11148985
www.researchgate.net/publication/12180380_Use_of_the_amplification_refractory_mutation_system_ARMS_in_the_study_of_HBS_in_predynastic_Egyptian_remains
this shows the genetic disease known as sickle cell they had came straight from West Africa
They found the Benin version of sickle cell in Ancient Egyptian mummies, after all:
“We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders.”
- Marin et. al. 1999, Use of the Amplification Refractory Mutation System (ARMS) in the Study of HbS in Predynastic Egyptian Remains.”
Benin is in West Africa
newsrescue.com/dna-evidence-on-egyptian-pharaohs-ramses-iii-a-sub-saharan-african-black/#ixzz54JLfuXEQ
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02444602
this study states A review of studies covering the biological relationship of the ancient Egyptians was undertaken. An overview of the data from the studies suggests that the *major biological affinities of early southern Egyptians lay with tropical Africans*
then it says *The range of indigenous tropical African phenotypes is great; and this range of variation must be considered in any discussion of the Nile Valley peoples. the early southern Egyptians belonged primarily to an African descent group which gained some Near Eastern affinity through gene flow with the passage of time*
what is your haplogroups?
If Semitic languages are almost all the middle eastern languages, then why is anti-semitism only used in reference to Jews and not say, Arabs, Syrians, Iraqis, etc.
@natnael not Somalia, Somali language is not semetic. Pls stop the fake news.
@natnael no Somali is not semetic. Somali is cushitic languages like Afar and Oromo. Semtic are amahric arabic hebrew and tigrinya. You damn know that, stop misleading the ppl.
@natnael i do not know why u would lie, is it out of ignorant of arrogant? What is it with you amhars needy to claim whole horn of africa. Afar and Oromo may have accept you, but somali will never agree to be part of amhara.
The nerve to tell me that somali a semetic language is.
@natnael
www.omniglot.com/writing/afar.htm
because in history hatred towards jews is much more present, so basically people use it for jews because they are the only semites in europe.
3:03 you portrayed the Egyptian Queen Nefertiti, wife of Akhenaten and mother of Tutankhamun, and not Cleopatra the Ptolemaic queen of Egypt.
Finally someone realized it 😂😂
They got Karen acting like Cleopatra
Nefertiti was not King Tut's mother, she was his stepmother. She only had daughters. The younger lady in the KV-35 tomb was his mother, and she was Akhenaten's own sister.
@@marielaveau6362 My bad then, I am not that well versed in Egyptology.
arsinoe cleopatra's sister was black www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2009/03/16/l-origine-africaine-de-cleopatre-la-preuve-par-le-squelette_1168376_3244.html
I saw quite a number of Coptic churches in Cairo with well attended congregations. I saw many people with small crosses tattooed on their wrists. I think that makes them less likely to marry Muslims. At the Coptic churches I attended I couldn't tell what language the service was in, Arabic or Coptic, but I did recognize one expression "Kyrie eleison." I saw Coptic churches in Alexandria and Luxor also. However, that can be taken only so far. A traveler in Cairo and Alexandria can see a number of synagogues and then assume there's a lot of Jews around. Actually there's only a handful of Egyptian Jews; the community consists largely of old people, mainly women who were married to Muslims or too aged to move to Israel or elsewhere. I think the estimate of Copts in Egypt at about 10% sounds right, that's a lot of people.
My hometown of Jersey City, New Jersey has now a large Coptic community; I believe the head of the Coptic church in North America has his see there. In Los Angeles where I live now there's a respectable Coptic population, with a handsome church on Robertson Blvd - incidentally near a strong Orthodox Jewish neighborhood. As far as I know with no problems - and why should there be?
Murray Aronson okay I’m Egyptian and I can say this: christians are definately below 20 or even 10 percent of the populations speaking about experience. Only once in a full moon I’ve met a Coptic Egyptian.
@@zonex731 واضح انك عايش فى العزلة 😂 لو ملكش أصحاب مسيحيين
Murray Aronson egypt used to have a large jewish community before the 67 war.
sadly the shithead abdelnaser forced them out of egypt after the war a move which only benefited israel.
@@zonex731 If you live in Cairo I find that hard to believe. I was in two Coptic churches, one in Maadi and the other Downtown, both were full with many people. And there were other churches I saw. I was surprised by the number of crosses seen on Cairo's cityscape.
@@amaralgalady606 Between 1948 and 1956 most Jews left Egypt. Many of them held Italian and French citizenship. The remainder were more or less expelled in 1967.
Around the same time most of the Greeks and Italians left, maybe also the Armenians.
This comment section is such a war zone
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@Johnny Bravo where it ??? send me any youtube
Yeah between black and white
I know what?
Nature Lover Afrocentrist and White supremacist
Love to egypt from a moroccan 🇲🇦❤️🇪🇬
You do know this is a history video not a stupid country politics video.
The effort of going through multiple sources to compile this unbiased info video deserves nothing less than thumbs up. Keep up the good work!
Jo Jo ok
@Jo Jo
*"The ancient Egyptians themselves said they came from area of what today is Ethiopia"*
the ancient EGyptians never said such thing
as a m,atter of fact the ancient Egyptians despised blacks
Jo Jo yea he says Blacks there are ‘Hamites’ and are Black ‘Caucasians’
GORO911 well if what you say is true, they “despised” themselves.
@@GORO911 except that the ancient egyptians would not know what we mean by Egypt, if they did, then they would despise blacks.
The ancient Egyptians would be very surprised as to why they are referred to as "Egyptians".
I suggest researching the early photographs (Maxime Du Camp) taken of the Egyptian ruins taken by French photographers. It really highlights the amazing contrast where the sands of time covered the landscape of the Egyptian empire and erased a lot of knowledge of their past
Jacob Luna link?
Jacob Finch Maxime Du Camp
@@jacobfinch9563 Use Google they are quite famous.
philip Trevor
Megaliths are pre-celtic
philip Trevor
None were built after 1200 bce
Masaman, I love watching your videos and being surprised to see a reference made to Armenians or Armenian culture. Thank you, man, for reviving my people's place/relevance in historical studies.
Cheers from a diaspora Armenian (i.e., a descendant of genocide survivors) in Los Angeles.
The genocide isn't real
tell your people to stop taking over the streets of HOllywood in Armenia's independence day. You all block streets on purpose.
@@italiansoldierfromww2460 The United States of America would beg to differ.
@@mrlakuda Tell your mother that she raised a barab guhleer.
As an Armenian you may be interested to know that Egypt was effectively ruled by Armenians off and on from 1073-1162 being grand viziers during an ailing Fatimid “caliphate”. They were both converts to Islam such as Badr Aljamali, his son Alafdhal, Tala'i ibn Ruzzik and his son Ruzzik as well as Christians such as Yanis and Bahram Alarmani who was given the title “the sword of Islam” even as a Christian. Large numbers of Armenians moved to Egypt during that period. Shajar al-Durr (Umm Khalil), likely an Armenian and the widow of the last Ayubid Sultan was briefly made queen of Egypt.
So basically what he said is that the modern egyptions are the ancient egyptions aswell ......for anyone who wants a summary
no they’re not you see the walls ?
@@tvsion2799 what abt the walls
The Glitch Ppl now in egypt are arabs .. But just check the walls egyptian clothes was african even the crowns ..and the skin color is black
@@tvsion2799 arab is an ethnicity not a race. So you'll have arabs who are black and white. All Sudanese and Somalis are arabs but that doesnt meant that the Sudanese arent nubian
@@tvsion2799 there were black Egyptian and black pharaohs who came from nubia or inter married with nubian royalty. But the majority were a olive skin tone
As what Marcus Garvey said A people without their origins is like a tree without Roots
The left seems to doesn't understand that. Or else they wouldn't try everything in their Power to take the roots from europeans.
Ancient Egyptians were Hamites not Cushites!!!!!! Hamites included Amazigue, Berber, Tuareg,Lybians, Egyptians. Kushites/ Kushites included peoples who used to be within kingdom of Kush and they were North Sudan, Nubia, Ethiopia, parts of Somalia. Hamites are different from semites ( Arabs, people of Levant)
@@nourhansalloum3991 there is no such thing as "Hamites" or a Hamitic race. It was a made up ethnotype or group of people.
dogons2k12 there’s no such thing as black Egypt. That’s what is made up and delusional. Hamites , Hemet, Gebet, Egypt originating from Mizraim hence Misir literally the name of Egypt in the arabic language. Fage, =John; Tordoff, William (2013). A History of Africa. Routledge. pp. 7-10. ISBN 978-1317797272. Retrieved 28 July 2016. These problems of colour and nomenclature become particularly difficult in connection with those inhabitants of Africa, mainly in Mediterranean and north-eastern Africa, who are not called Blacks. Europeans, believing -- correctly -- that these people belong to the same basic stock, usually called Caucasoid, as themselves[...] Earlier they were always referred to as 'Hamites'[...] Caucasoids were certainly the dominant stock, if not the only one, living in North and North-East Africa, but there is also evidence that some Caucasoids were living further south, in at least the northern half of the open highland country which runs southwards from Ethiopia to South Africa. Enough with the blackwashing and whitewashing of Egypt.
Sartorially Black ummm NO! Egyptians are not arabs!
Egypt and the rest of the Arab world is culturally Arab but that doesn't necessarily mean they're genetically from the Arabian peninsula. It's funny because Egypt is more or less the heart of the Arab world today, and not the Gulf countries. Egypt has been the heart of many civilizations at once, but the Egyptian people have always considered themselves Egyptian first and foremost regardless of language or religion. Many minor groups migrated to Egypt across history to escape the destruction of their homeland and have become integrated into Egyptian society. The reverse has also happened, where many Egyptians migrated to the Levant, Hijaz, Yemen, and even the Balkans.
huey.p. newton You wish lol 😂!
huey.p. newton I am Spanish 🇪🇸
huey.p. newton Not Hispanic !
Somali were the old Egyptian
Arabs live in egypt now but they didnt build it ancient egypt. Black people did
clicked just to see the afrocentric comments
@Bloodline Both of you just sat there and watched someone trace ancient Egypt all the way back from Ethiopia. Told you they're related to the people of Kush and Punt and showed you how the history went from black to white and you still chose to be willfully ignorant? That's some sort of superpower if I ever seen one.
Lemme guess you think some mythical race of white people built great zimbabwe too huh Cecil Rhodes.
@Kwabena Ptah AYO HOL UP HOL UP MONEY SO YOU BE SAYIN
@Kwabena Ptah SO SO SO YOU BE... YOU BE SAYIN
What’s up Naygaaaarrzz!!!
8:09 "Will Siwa ever find peace?" - Bayek of Siwa. 😂
rip bayek
The easiest answer to the question - "The became mummies" :-)
@jdtrickster4 Muddies (lol)
@BLUE DOG Hmmm... If even ordinary White Cave Men managed to defeat Divine Black Kings, then I am afraid even to think about White Cave Kings' boundless power. Maybe they stopped that childish playing with huge heaps of stone blocks long before DBKs came?
Nope the became white
Literally lol
Nicholas Sudov eat shit
at 3:8 the picture is of Nefertiti while you are talking about Cleopetra
So what about it Cleopatra was disgusting Ptolemaic dog that went around and fucked all the roman generals
Be fair, she only fucked two of them.@@ronjayrose9706
She be better, dawg. She be more famous and richer than modern European hoes and aint had no internet neither, player@@ronjayrose9706
The Ancient Egyptians are still there in Egypt. The Copts are Ancient Egyptians.
Yep
It’s a lot more complicated than that.
rayamariam692 No, they are not.
Fascinating, makes me proud to be human when appreciating the contributions of all our ancestors
Ok, you could do a whole series on this topic and I'd play & replay each one. Egypt is my #1 historical fascination!
Then come visit we love visitors (Israeli passport can't come through airport security unless they use the land border)
What on Earth Happened to the OLD Egyptians? You did not answer your own question.
They became the modern day Copts
He never does. He just rambles random facts
@Subtle Nature sounds about right I'll write that phrase in my note, thanks
@huey.p. newton of course, they are Africans. Nothing demeaning about that. The entire people of the world are Africans. Egyptians now are not the same Egyptians of the Bible or the days of the Pharaohs. They were real Africans then. Today they are totally mixed and literally bear no resemblance to ancient Egyptians. In fact, they are not at all real Egyptians.
@huey.p. newton where do u think Egypt is ? North America? Antarctica ? Lol
As for those who urgues Ancient Egyptians were Black Sub Saharans ,the painting in Egyptian wall depict them with reddish brown complexions something Most Sub Saharan Black lacks. This paintings debunks the Black hypothesis deeply held by Afro accentric scholars
Look at his video on races of africa, only the nilotics and some west africans have jet black skin, the rest have brown to light brown. And I have brown skin, doesn't make me caucasian or arab. Stop w the lies.
@@Minptahhathor they also Showed Black people on that Painting and they were depicted diffrently
@Enno9 lol, black ppl come are in the spectrum of black to light brown, not sure what you think you did with this?
I used to watch your videos a few years ago and had stopped but just rediscovered your channel. You did a really good job here. All my research seem to agree with the information you presented. I wish you'd found a photo from the Greco-Egyptian Dynasty when you were talking about that period instead of Nefertiti who came several centuries before; nevertheless, I got your overarching point. Keep up the good work. You have clearly refined your approach to discussing these topics that could be very sensitive: knowledge and maturity, I suppose. Your effort is highly appreciated.
The situation in Egypt is the same as other non-gulf arabic speaking countries, where the people are culturally and linguistically arabs but not genetically for the most part.
Even back in the ottoman period there was a distinction between ethnic Sunni Arabs and Sunni Fellahins (literally peasants) who retained much of their ancestor's agrarian lifestyle, and were the majority. There's a story where an excavated statue was called Sheikh al Balad by the locals, after the sheikh of the village who looked extremely similar. This distinction was erased in the times of Jamal Abed Al Nasser and the whole pan Arab craze.
You also should consider that the Arab migrations were sporadic migrations from a nomadic culture which wasn't likely to be in the same numbers as the massive Egyptian population, and that Egypt has been spared the large scale massacres that levantine and Mesopotamian people experienced at the hands of mongols and timurids.
Egypt has been described as a great sea that swallows up all that is poured into it, and I couldn't agree more. Great video in any case💓
Hanno the Navigator I was gonna write a comment like this but you basically made the points I wanted to. The Egyptian population in the past was huge and migrations into Egypt were usually in small number and invaders would only bring elites with them rather than peasants, so the genetics of Egyptians wouldn’t be greatly altered. of course Egyptians mixed a bit over time but the idea of large scale mixing like in the special case of Latin America is a myth. Also from what masaman said Egyptian would have 40% southwest (not just the Arabian Peninsula) Asian ancestry from the paternal line but I would assume that the maternal line would have very little southwest Asian ancestry.
@@Yevjer Exactly. It's usually the ruling men whose haplos are overreprecented. For example roughly 50% of black Americans have an European haplo group even though they're on average only ~15% European.
iraqis are mesopotamians
You forgot that by the Muslim Arabs entered into Egypt it was already very mix
Modern day Egyptians kiss Arab ass to be one of them because they know their more closely related to Arabs than the ancient Egyptians
We all like the OLD Egypt more.
@@sexyyredfumbledmytippy - Brown to orange, not really black until you refer to Nubians.
@@PerezosoDoom They aren't that genetically different and they're all just different shades of brown
@@wiseguy240Winston - They were genetically closer to Europeans than to Subsaharan Africans. We have genetic proof of this.
@@PerezosoDoom That wasn't until the Greeks and Roman's invaded. Ancient and Proto Egyptians showed most middle eastern Arab and Subsharan African genetics.
@@wiseguy240Winston - Nope, they barely had any Subsaharan African admixture.
This is special video!
Do one on Leventine population.
Just because Coptic has lots of Greek vocabulary, doesn't make Coptic un-Egyptian. The rulers of Egypt for 300 years were speaking Greek. It's same as Norman French entering English.
This is more about new Egyptians then about old Egyptians.
Salvatore Lanzieri . Who was there at 3100 BC to 664 BC? I’ll wait 😌
Salvatore Lanzieri . Do you know what Kemet is? Do you know what it means? I’ll wait 😌
@Salvatore Lanzieri you can't translate hieroglyphics clown lmao.
@@ackshonlife black land for the fertile land od the nile
Abdullah Yasser . Black land of the people. They tell you it’s about land instead of the people to curve you. Has nothing to do with the land. They changed it from Kemet to Egypt for a reason. Did the land change?
My grandfather is an Assyrian from Egypt. There used to be a lot of different ethnic groups living in Cairo at the time. Maybe we can see a video on cities with different ethnic groups compared to the rest of the country?
foreigners in Egypt lived only in Cairo and Alexandria.
which is why the information in this video are crap, claiming that Arabs somehow came to Egypt and mixed with the whole population in rural Areas
Don't take this crappy information in this video seriously.
Masaman's information are shallow and his sources are mere blogs that he doesn't even understand.
He claims muslim Egyptians are mixed with Arabs due to 27% of them carrying Haplogroup J, although Haplogroup J has been in Egypt since the Neolithic, and has been found in ancient Egyptian mummies.
meaning that it didn't come from Arabs as Masaman ignroantly claims.
also he claims Coptic christian Egyptians incorporated Armenians into their community, giving a false premise that coptic Egyptians are now mixed with Armenians.
but what he doesn't know is that most Armenian refugees left Egypt and there numbers were negligeble to make any demograpphic change.
this video is complete farce and it shows Masaman's ignorance, he is just a good speaker thats all.
@@GORO911 you’re either a butthurt Arab or a troll
@@oof5576
You're either a butt hurt *knee grow* or a troll.
No pre-contact sub Saharan African population have ever created a written language or weaved cloth or forged steel. They never invented anything not even a wheel or plow. Or devised a calendar, or code of laws, or any social organization, or formal religion, or a system of measurement, or math, or built a multi-story structure, or bridge or sewer. Pre-contact Sub-Saharan black Africans have never ever created infrastructure of any kind nor have they harnessed a river or even drilled well or irrigated, or built a road, or railway, or sea-worthy vessel. They never domesticated animals or exploited underground natural resources or produced anything that could be considered a mechanical device.
Is this why american blacks are stealing egyptian history and civilisation?
This is one of my favorite channels on CZcams
WE WUZ KANGZ?
@@indiopatarajada9670 No, the guy just likes the channel, stop trying to bring black people down.
So they still in Egypt (What a superise)
No their not the Acient Egyptians were black Somalians which is pretty much the guy said
Dragon Of The West Ancient Egyptians were Copts. Even today, many Copts continue some ancient cultural traditions. Also, all ancient Egyptians converted to and remained in Christianity for 500 years until the demographic was heavily altered by he Arab invasions. There were pharaohs from Nubia, but they weren’t natives. Most pharaohs were of native Egyptian or Greek ancestry.
@Ebro Big boy all cushitics groups today Somalis, afar, beja,
Oromo jack than we just one group of people. Later on split into doffient tribes. So technically Somalis were just as Egyptians as a Beja.
@@dragonofthewest8305 ur mom we never were black never seen a black scoring Egyptian in their dna
@@dr.apollo4226 you do realise nubians are native to Egypt right... Nubia is South Egypt and North Sudan, and these people were the first inhabitants of the Nile.
Great video. I kept on wondering about this. 👌👌👌👌
here's some misinformations and false conclusions need to be corrected :
1-haplogroup J which you didn't even bother to define as J1 or J2 exists in egypt at least since the early neolithic (check ancient guanches genome).
2-kabyle are by autosomal predominantly indigenous Berber, in fact some individuals even scores up to 99% north African ancestry (check their youtube dna results).
3-siwa egyptian you falsely called ''berbers'' have literally less than 2% of the indigenous berber y-dna haplogroup E-M81 (making them languistically related to some berbers but not genetically).
4-the kids pictures you showed as ''moroccan berbers'' are sahrawi's not even berbers!
5-ottomans in egypt were caliphate not ''colonial'' lol
That video is a Catastarophic failure.
the information you are telling are supposed to be common knowledge.
but here Masaman pretending to be all knowegeable while spouting all this ignorance.
@@GORO911 he has an earlier video about north Africa with same flaws, i guess his genetic and archaeological informations regarding MENA region / pop's are shallow and limited.
@@sonofbarca9642
Check the description.
his sources are internet blogs that misinterpret the genetic data, and he just copies them without questioning
not only this Video, most Videos of him are incorrect in several parts.
Im not impressed. The predominant genes that make up the stronger side of the North African genetics come from Levant, the second from the Yemeni. Both are present in Egypt and Barbary coast. No company has successfully seperated DNA of Berbers with the rest of North Africa except that the Magreb has a lot of European blood, and Egypt has a lot of Arabic blood. The southern parts are more Nubian but Im not seeing how you separate them so easily when nobody else can.....
me watching this while high: *did he just say kingdom of kush*
Yes Kushonia 🚬
No literally nubia kingdom of kush
THE ABSOLUTE MOST TRUTHFUL DOCUMENTARY I HAVE WATCHED.
Years ago, a Saudi Arabian friend said that there was an enormous variation in looks between different SA nomad tribes. Tribes, he continued, each had their own look due to differing tribal traditions concerning whom to marry.
Poll answer: All of the above including Mediterranean Egypt is a crossroads of civilisations.
They live in detroit
Detroit is not in East Africa.
Pol nah bud, those are Chaldeans
Chaldeans, Arabs and Lebanese dominate Dearborn, MI. Chaldeans used to be Christian when I lived in Detroit. I don't know if they still live in Dearborn and run stores all over Wayne county. Detroit has changed drastically.
@jacob Egypt is african
@jacob that's the problem why do we only see Africa as two continents been not any other continent?
Great video. Thanks
Thank you for all your research!!
I was playing Assassins Creed Origins and this video appeared. Thanks Masaman!
Hey Masaman can you make a video about Sardinians and their DNA?
Eivissia and the other islands with remnants of Phoenician DNA and language
Now that would be very interesting!
They got fish DNA :P
They are mixed with african.
I think you mean Somalians
Great video!
This is a very fascinating presentation !! I always wondered to what extent Egyptians are really Arabs. I also found it super fascinating that Algerians are the closest to Europeans.
It didn't save them from being mistreated by the French.
@@mrlakuda Well Polish people are even more European and it didn't save them from being mistreated by the Germans.
I love how ppl feel that aliens or some mysterious unknown ppl built the pyramids....
I was gonna make some alien jokes this episode, but I would just get carried away...
@@aBraveNewNormal I think he was kidding Akon....
I hate those people i cant even find any decent documentary about Egypt because of those brain dead idiots
@@aBraveNewNormal walk it off bruh...
@@raytheonorion lol, Akin chillin. He was just buggin for a min. He's back to normal now
Proceeds to talk about Egyptians from modern recorded history
Jo Jo how
Jo Jo which scholars? What's their names?
@@EK-kw7tr Look at my comments at the top of the video they have sources from Modern scholars thank me later.
Kanwadyo Pinho cannot find them
@@EK-kw7tr Yeah Masaman has deleted two of the four top comments that should tell you something I will give the info to you directly and try again in the main post you see it and it will magically disappear.
As an Egyptian myself, I want to thank you for the great video, you were very informative and free from bias. However, I disagree with you. A recent DNA research published on Nature Communications conducted on Abusir El meleq mummies( middle class mummies) showed that ancient egyptians were close relatives to the Levantines with a slight sub saharan african DNA of between 6% and 15%. Modern Egyptians showed a higher rate of of sub saharan african DNA, probably due to slave trades during the Islamic empire. Lastly, thank you again for the great video. Keep it up.
It's a bogus test from the nazi eugenics linked max planck institute that was headed by a fraud named johannes Krause who used mummies of foreigners from a location and time period that was known to be heavily populated by foreigners...Egyptian civilization lasted three thousand years but ask yourself why did this phony "study" choose to use late period mummies from only one location then tried to pass them off as being representative of Egyptian population..why didn't he use mummies from more than one area and from time periods when real Egyptians were on the throne? ...THE.ANSWER IS because he wanted to carefully cherrypick the location in.order to get the skewed bootleg results he was seeking...these desperate VIKANGZ have got to do better...this was too easy to deconstruct...
@@MichaelDavis-cv6rr This all what afrocentrists do, they create some conspiracy and try to steal our history and culture. Unless you were not joking about the nazi thing, I can continue and tell you that the research was published on Nature Communications, and it is not easy to publish a research on this scientific magazine. The mummies chosen for the research where middle class mummies and not royalty. And if they chose any other mummies, you would end up with the same argument. Arguing with afrocentrists is like arguing with flat Earther, no matter how much evidence there is, you always keep uttering with the same words. Every time I see an afrocentrist, he just keeps giving me fake info and says everything is a conspiracy to prove ancient egyptians were white. You are truly unworthy of arguing with. Lastly, if you feel a gap in your identity, don't just fill it with deluding yourself of being an ancient egyptian, because you are just not. Go get some education on African history and leave egyptians alone.
@@MichaelDavis-cv6rr Do you know how all this absurdity started?? Wall paints. Ancient egyptians rarely depicted themselves with real colors, they are only symbolic. You know who else used this kind of art? The Greeks!! You heard about canonication?? This when in most cases women were depicted with white colours and men with brown colors when they are in the same scene. You saw the mummies themselves, Because nearly all of them had soft hair. And don't tell me about embalming process affecting hair color because it was tested and Natron does not affect hair color. Many Busts from the 3000 bce era had blue crystals where their eyes were. And do you know what was the color used for them? Brown!! Again, for you to realize that it is absurd to even argue that ancient egyptians were black. The Fayum mummy portraits depicted egyptians the way they are and they were not black. Furthermore, of you see copt, you would rarely see one of them black. For the most ignorant argument that was ever made, which is that the generic pool of egyptians was altered due to invasion of Arabs, Egypt stayed for 3 centuries after the invasion with a majority of Christians and not Muslims. Lastly, it is as simple as it seems, Iraqis are not Mongols nor arabs, Persians are not arabs, Greeks are not turks, Spanish people are not arabs nor Berbers and ancient egyptians are not arabs. The most offensive thing ever to say to someone is to tell him that he is not a descendant of natives but instead an invader and an intruder. Finally, Herodotus described the Egyptians as Georgians. And most historians described egyptians as melanchroie (swarthy) a description of Odysseus. The description was given also to Northren Indians. And all green historians differentiated clearly between northren Indians and southern Indians.
@Araweelo Xxxd Your argument lacks reliable sources. You simply are not a PhD researcher in a high ranked university to decide such a thing. But Johanne Krause was. Plus you actually don't live in the horn of Africa to say that they are soft haired, other than the fact than that are simply not. I live in Egypt, and I have many nubian friends(the ones you claim they are descendants of ancient egyptians) and guess what? They don't have soft hair! They look like nubians!!! If you have seen some pictures of African Americans having soft hair, that's because they are 20% European. So, the next time you try to delude yourself of being an ancient egyptian, try a convenient argument. Btw, I really don't know why african Americans are trying to claim being ancient egyptians, they have nothing to do with East Africans. Nubians themselves do not claim ancient egyptians and they know that modern egyptians are descendants of ancient egyptians. Nubians are people who are proud of their culture and history and they don't try stealing ours. Also, doesn't mean everyone believed at some point of time that ancient egyptians where black that they were actually black. Once people believed the earth is flat. That doesn't mean it is flat. Furthermore, There are 2 other reliable genetic researches on ancient egyptians backing up my what I say. They were published by Manchester University. Another one was published on Genes scientific magazine.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5867856/
This is the sick ideology of leftists: Escape reality by a beautiful sugary fantasy (although the reality isn't bad, there was the Ta Seti civilization and many others.) So stop trying to steal our history and culture and accept reality. You try to separate everyone from their identity just because you wish to be a descendant of ancient egyptians. The easiest most ignorant method to falsify a research is to just say it is biased. People like you are a disgrace to their race and nation. Neil De Grasse Tyson doesn't claim ancient egyptians, because he is well educated and doesn't feel a gap in his identity. Be proud of YOUR identity and don't claim other's to feel good.
@@riemamn3149 lies lies and more lies
I never knew there had been canals connecting the Red Sea with the Mediterranean before Suez Canal. After I saw it on his map I found it looks like there may have been several.
Video idea: Did the Goths and Vandals have a genetic impact in Italy Spain and North Africa?
They probably did. I've read in a good source sometime back that in Spain at any rate there's Catalonia, derived from Gothalonia, and Andalusia, derived ultimately from Vandalusia or something like that. I know that Andalusia spent the longest time under Muslim rule than any other part of the Iberian peninsula and it was known al-Andaluz which might mean something in Arabic or derived from a term having to do with the Vandals.
Nope, They didn't
The Goths and Arabs had a very small genetic contribution to Spain. The Goths and Langobards did not have much of a genetic influence on Italy.
I think gothic heritage is mentioned in at least two of his earlier videos, what happened to the goths and one video about Spanish people.
Look up Iberian
As always, incredible work. All the success to you my guy.
"Incredible work" Lmao
@@calennosliw3669 no content. Suprise.
Well done. Thx
It would be interesting if you did a video on the origins of the ancient Egyptian beliefs, customs, symbols, etc. For example (I could be wrong here), it's been theorized the role of Pharaoh slowly evolved from a long line of water engineers who were able to tame the Nile through irrigation, digging canals, etc. Although to us today this may seem like a humble line of work, back then these guys were essential to the survival of the Egyptian people; it's not too difficult to imagine that over time this important position would evolve into an almost godlike status.
What's weird is there customs and culture still gets practiced south of Egypt and the horn...
Thats because the actual descendants of the ancient egyptians and nubians were moved into southern countries
@@ali7sn03 when they think since they was born in that country makes them ancient Egyptians... Tom Hanks is a native America Zzzz
@@ali7sn03 when they know that Nile Valley civillization flourished in Ta-Seti (upstream, in the South) a few thousand years before some Greek dude came and pasted his name onto "Alexandria"...and they also know that Arabs and Ancient Egyptians are not the same thing
Mhm interesting isn’t it
@@shhmatdelski8386 I don't disagree that Ancienct Egyptian and Nubian culture are related but comparing Egypt to NA shows a lack of knowledge on the subject, the reasons for the conquests etc. It's more like SA with mixed people.
There were no old Egyptians.
Just the new ones claiming others work.
University of Chicago Egyptologist Frank Yurco - Frank Yurco, "An Egyptological Review" in Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers, eds. Black Athena Revisited. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1996. p. 62-100
"Certainly there was some foreign admixture [in Egypt], but basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times... [the] Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture, already exhibited the mix of North African and Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since (Hassan 1985; Yurco 1989; Trigger 1978; Keita 1990; Brace et al., this volume)... The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East Africa, Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a [Nile Valley] continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle pastoralist traditions (Trigger 1978; Bard, Snowden, this volume). Language research suggests that this Saharan-[Nile Valley] population became speakers of the Afro-Asiatic languages... Semitic was evidently spoken by Saharans who crossed the Red Sea into Arabia and became ancestors of the Semitic speakers there, possibly around 7000 BC... In summary we may say that Egypt was a distinct Afro-Asiatic African culture rooted in the Nile Valley and on the Sahara."
@DR Groce Arabs converted egyptians to muslims, but DNA proves modern Egyptians did not "mixed" much with Arabs or blacks or other races even after more than 2,000 years after their downfall and conquest from nubians(blks), Greeks and Romans and then Arabs.
@@javiveltron6852 They did during the Roman period.
@@javiveltron6852 lol the old kingdom was a kushite rule....end of story
@DR Groce dude I don't want to surprise you but the Arabs themselves are half Egyptian and half Mesopotamian their father is Abraham (Mesopotamian) and their mother Hagar (Egyptian) so basically they are our relatives even before the Islamic conquests
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Very interesting. Do you have any book recommendations on the subject?
Well, this comment section is gonna be cancerous.
I mean, aren't they always?
It should be we have a history of history being rewritten, this one aint no different.
Because truth is subject to interpretation and collectively the world does not get along for nothing. That’s a fact.
James Madison Mosley no it wasn’t
@James Madison Mosley your great grandad x 1000 was black
At first they were their own people with blood similar to Sudanese/horn of Africa and Berbers.
Later they mixed with Europeans.
And lastly they mixed with Arabs and have adopted their culture and religion.
Basically theyre the Latinos of Africa lol. Still a great country shoutout to the Egyptians.
Yep the entire history of Egyptians summarise into one statement
Yep
Ali Bumaye this is the most accurate
@@muhagurey2625 yep very accurate
They were Europeans.
Afar and Somalia are closest to ancient Egypt
That’s what am also trying to say
Saynab Hibo Yes, this is true.
True and Etheopia
then why isnt there any fundamental resemblance between Egypt and Ethiopia ?
is there a pyramid in Ethiopia ? was Amun worshiped in Ethiopia ?
He said they are hamitic like North Africans however they have a sub Saharan African Base
I always thought that the modern Arab Egyptians looked distinctly different than the Egyptians as portrayed in ancient Egyptian art. For one thing, they don't walk like an Egyptian. I can only see one shoulder when looking at them in profile now.
You started serious and then....😂
I love your videos. They're the best! Keep answering these interesting questions. The world needs more knowledge like this. I appreciate you!
The video is full of errors due to Masaman lack of knowledge of Genetics
He claims muslim Egyptians are heavily mixed with Arabs due to 27% of them having Haplogroup J.
What he doesn't know that Egyptian haplogroup J is a completely different sub clade than that of Arabs.
Haplogroup J has been in Egypt since the Neolithic (10,000 ya), not a recent acquisition after Arab invasion as Masaman claims
They walked like an Egyptian
Is this a JoJo reference ?!
Can you please make a video about the various groups that conquered Malta, Stone Age to present? Thanks.
What I need is your video on time management. ;D
Do a video on the Tibetans please :) Awesome vid though, really been thinking about the egyptians lately so it's borderline spooky that you did a video on it
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The sudanese are the ancient Egyptians
@@johnwilmore4190 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*Well they well they weren't white either ancient Egyptians were most likely a mixture of sub-Saharan Africans from what is now Sudan also Africans from the Horn of Africa people from the Levant and North Africans most likely libyans or berbers people*
Aj Porsche and you are an ignorant racist neanderthal
African Proud we wuz hated by the sun
Good Job!!!
Very informative. What is your source data? This has helped me to understand the Coptic Christian population more than I did previously.
A couple of misconceptioms here.
1. North Africans aren't just simply composer of a mix between Sub-Saharan Africans and Eurasians, because they stem from their own ancestral cluster which evolved in North Africa. This is ancestry cluster is a core to many North African and proto-Caucasoid phenotypes.
2. The nation bordering Kemet (what is now Egypt) to the south was indeed Kush, but here's the thing. Kush was Nilo-Saharan, not Cushitic.
@huey.p. newton All of Asia is Chinese
So kush was not kushitic lol, thats an oxymoron dude.
Egyptian were black
Caucasoid so called north "Africans" are NOT AFRICANS...they originate in western eurasia...that's why their DNA is always grouped with middle east DNA because that's where they are from...THEY ARE NOT AFRICANS...the ancient Khemites were REAL Africans/Blacks that had no need to migrate to Africa because they were always in Africa..
@@sugar-daddykhayreddin1115 I didn't say that it wasn't Kushitic. I said it wasn't Cushitic. What the anthropologies call Cushitic are really just Horners. It's the same case with the modern served Ethiopia. Aethiop originally meant burnt face. The Eastern Nilo-Saharan peoples (Nubians, Luos, etc) such as have the highest Melanin content of Africa.
This is kool, I had Egyptian American students who's Parent's came from Alexandria Egypt. The Mom and Dad are fluent in Coptic, Arabic and English. They were really nice people. Amazing that they can speak three languages.
Wow this is crazy. I’m Algerian born in Constantine, and you just explained my heritage better than anyone! Because both my maternal and paternal grandmothers are Turkish! Which I try to explain to people the reason why I’m “lighter” than the average North African !
Aren't alot of Algerians light though? Fair skinned Algerians aren't seldom met, especially in the north and among the kabyle people.
Another decendant of turkey, of the invaders non- African.
That is because they were not Turks but Kulughli, meaning descendant of slaves.
At the beginning of the Ottoman era, many who came in Ifriqiya (Tunis, Tripoli) and Maghreb al Awsat (Constantine, Annaba, Alger) were janissaries, slave soldiers captured when they were young from Greek, Slavic, Circassian and other origins.
For example, the first Mouradite Bey of Tunis, Mourad Bey, was a Corsican.
And the fist husseinite Bey was the son of a janissary from the greek Island of Crete.
@@lilahdog568We're typically Mediterraneans.
We have an olive skin, we easily tan and we rarely have sunburns.
We're lighter than subsahrian black people and darker than white north europeans
As Egyptian I will explain to you the relation between ancient Egypt and modern Egypt
Ancient Egypt has 4 majors haplogroup
Egyptian/Mediterranean/west asian/African
It was possible that Egyptian proportion was the majority like plus 66% and the others 33% in the past
But in the past there always a foreigners came to Egypt and assimilated into our country alot of semetic tribes came from east and African tribes from south and berber tribes from west that happened in pharaohs ages
Now there was a 35 million have Egyptian genes that means that the original genes decreased to the half
And 35 million have another Mediterranean Gene's (12 million Levant/12 million berber/12 Europeans Mediterranean)
20 million (Arabs 10 million/persians 5 million/ Turks 5 million)
15 million African genes (5 million nubian/5 million Sudan/5 million horn)
So Egyptian Gene's still have a considerable proportion 33% from 105 million after all these invasions
And there were a homogenous in our population
Because ancient Egyptians are Mediterranean
Levant and north Africa and north Mediterranean European are Mediterranean
So the Mediterranean Gene's up to 66% including ancient Egypt (33+33)
And when we know that there was a little different between Mediterranean including Egyptians and the semetic west Asian Gene's so there was 80% (Egyptian Gene's and the others similar to it)
The only Gene's that are not similar to Egyptians are the African 15% and Turk central Asian 5% and we are proud of them
So when you see the Egyptians say they are Arabs they means linguistically or culturally
But that doesn't mean that all the Egyptians died and all the 105 million are Arabs
The Arabic genes are just in 10 million
Our 35 million Egyptian Gene's not only in Coptic people because Coptic people mixed with another people before christianity and during christianity and after christianity there always foreigners in Egypt and that's not limited to muslim foreigners only
So the 33% old Egyptian gene's be there In muslims and Christians and atheists
ليبرالي مصري lmfao
Hamite egyptians were a dark skinned race. Almost everyone in Egypt is not even Egyptian right now.
valikar Would you say that Sudanese people were Egyptians before they split from Egypt?
@@SuzyTherealgangsta no. otherwise they wouldn't have split.
@@zombieat
Think again
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I don't agree that the least affected region in North Africa from genetically change is the Algerian Kabyle region, Kabyle people are more influenced with Southern European admixture than others. The purest Berbers are to be found in the Moroccan Souss region, and in overall the purest Berbers are to be found in Morocco and not in Algeria or Tunis. And we still speak our old language unlike the Algerians and the Tunisians who went trough heavy Arabization. I did a DNA test myself and the results showed me 0% SSA and 0% Middle Eastern/Arab (I'm Berber).
I believe that's what I said in the video. Algerians are the closest to Europeans, Egyptians are closest to Middle Eastern and Moroccans are the purest North Africans.
wrong. we nubaa in nile valley are oldest bloodline in north africa.
Very usefull topic masman
I am from sudan
Please do a research on the diversity of ethnic and cultural groups in sudan with a brief history of the acient nubians
Thanks.
Very informative video. There was one mistake though when Nefertiti's head statue was presented as Cleopatra.
Basically, The Egyptians Should be Proud of both their Ancient Egyptian Heritage and their Arab Heritage. We got the most Epic mix. Also, correction, Egyptians didn't just identify as Arabs during the leadership of Gamal Abdul Nasser. Gamal Abdul Nasser's Brother who was born in the 1920s, was named by his parents "Izz al Arab" which is Arabic for "Arab Pride". This was way before Gamal Abdul Nasser's political career, let alone his Pan Arabist dreams. Gamal Abdul Nasser himself was born in 1918, and his parents were already Arab identifying nationalists. Egyptians(both Muslims and Christians) have identified as Arabs for a very long time. Only recently have we started to identify as "Pharaohs" lol, and Lebanese as "Phoenicians" and Iraqis as "Babylonians" etc. It is a ridiculous phenomenon/conspiracy to divide the Arab world into weaker and divided states. The west wants the Arabs to identify with their dead ancient civilizations just to kill the possibility of any potential Arab unity(which we have attempted before). Think about it. A United Arab republic would be the West's biggest threat. Not to mention Israel's situation in the case of a United Arab Nation. It would be Israel's Nightmare.
P.S. @7:25 The latter does not have "a more fluid definition" of the Middle East. That is the traditional definition of Middle East. There is no "Middle East" without Egypt. The Middle East is not a continent nor is it confined to a single continent, but it is a transctonintal geopolitical region that extends to three continents. It is also not synonymous with "West Asia" which has been a recent common misconception. I'm aware that you now understand this fact which is apparent in your later videos, but this information I'm typing is for the people that might have confusions about the makeup of the region or that might confuse it for a continent, which I see many people do, not just westerners. The Middle East begins with Egypt in North Africa and ends with Iran in Western Asia. The criteria of the Middle East’s geography is not based on a shared continent, but instead, it is based on shared history, politics and culture. Hence the term “Geopolitical”. While the majority of the region is situated on Western Asia, it still does not make up the entirety of the region. The Middle East is a geopolitical transcontinental region that sits on the intersection of Africa(Via Egypt), Asia(Via the Sinai of Egypt, the Levant, the Arabian peninsula, Iraq and Iran) and Europe(Via Turkey which is a country situated in both Europe and Asia(the entirety of Turkey is included in the Middle East including its European part)
The concept of the Middle East/Near East predates its western given names. It was a concept created by Arab Historians and Geographers in the Middle Ages such as Ibn Khaldun to divide the Maghreb(Western part of the Arab world) from the Mashriq(Eastern part of the Arab world) based on the cultural differences and similarities. The Maghreb became to be the Amazigh part of the Arab world which was the Western Maghreb part of the Arab world(Libya, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Mauritania). The Eastern part of the Arab world was called “Al Mashriq”. When the westerners created the terms “Middle East and Near East” in the 19th and 20th century to refer to the same Eastern region of the Arab world that they have imperialized, they began adding the non Arab countries such as Turkey, Iran, Israel and even Cyprus.
This bring me to another important issue that needs some shedding light on, which is, in its classical definition, the term “North Africa” just simply means the top part of the African continent. But “North Africa” in the context of “North Africa and the Middle East”, only refers to the Maghreb region. So context here is very important.
The word “Maghreb” is Arabic for “where the sun sets” referring to the Western part of the Arab world while the word “Mashriq” is Arabic for “where the sun rises” referring to the Eastern part of the Arab world
Actually arabs added nothing but the destruction and commercialism of a civilization they did not create
@@MichaelDavis-cv6rr you're completely wrong don't you know about the Golden age of Islam and how Egypt was a center of culture knowledge back then
Also are you an idiot don't you know that Hagar (mother of Ismael and Arab's) was from Egypt!
@@MichaelDavis-cv6rr England is the one that brought destruction to Egypt by invading it and France too not to mention that napoleon distroyed the nose of the sphinx
@@MichaelDavis-cv6rr Dude I'm not even arab but your ignorance pierced my liver, go read a book.
@@MichaelDavis-cv6rr Ben Shapiro, is that you?
Egypt has never really been Arab
Egypt is as Arabic as the other Arabic nations after the Arabic Conquest of North Africa. The genetically pure Arab is merely speculation as these people have mixed plenty over the centuries. Not to mention Arabic is not really a race anyway. Many different racial groups have lived in and passed through Southwest Asia.
@@MrSober4now Arab is not a race, it is an ethnicity but Egypt is probably the least Arab "Arab country"
@@Demographiaanthropology
Don't take this crappy information in this video seriously.
Masaman's information are shallow and his sources are mere blogs that he doesn't even understand.
He claims muslim Egyptians are mixed with Arabs due to 27% of them carrying Haplogroup J, although Haplogroup J has been in Egypt since the Neolithic, and has been found in ancient Egyptian mummies.
meaning that it didn't come from Arabs as Masaman ignroantly claims.
also he claims Coptic christian Egyptians incorporated Armenians into their community, giving a false premise that coptic Egyptians are now mixed with Armenians.
but what he doesn't know is that most Armenian refugees left Egypt and there numbers were negligeble to make any demograpphic change.
this video is complete farce and it shows Masaman's ignorance, he is just a good speaker thats all.
GORO911 so why don't you make a video response
@@EK-kw7tr
Because my video response will get about 100 views at best.
not worth it
There is continuity between ancient Egypt and modern Egypt.
Definitely, but there are those Eurocentrists and afrocentrists who claim that modern egyptians are not related to ancient egyptians so that they can start stealing their heritage for themselves
Very interesting.
Im Egyptian and I identify more as North African, but i also have Middle Eastern and Albanian/Turkish ancestry.
Dislike? You mean Dis I Like ik for fact that im indigenous because 2 of my grandparents are from indigenous groups in Egypt
Dislike? You mean Dis I Like yes
@Dislike? You mean Dis I Like Does it make you feel better to try (and fail) to deny other people's history. Genetic studies have shown most modern Egyptians to have E1B1B (native North African) DNA but do continue with the WE WUZ KANGS rhetoric.
@Dislike? You mean Dis I Like No need to try again. If you ignore genetic research from actual scientists then there's nothing you won't ignore and there's no point arguing with people like you.
I found this very informative. North Africa seems to have been a breeding ground of admixture. Makes you wonder what criteria was used in the choosing of a mate. I was always curious about that. The north being so different than the sub-saharan..., at least in appearance. I'd like to look more into that.
They wuz all black!!
Pretty much 10s of millenia of race and ethnic mixing tbh
The ancient egypt race thing has already been debated at the 1974 Symposium with a easy victory for the African scholars Cheikh Anta diop and Theophile Obenga when you read the conclusion of the UNESCO 1974 symposium . The arabs and the europeans can stay mad all they want. Even the founder of egyptology himself jean-Francois champollignon admits they were probably negros in his works. JF champollignon was the one who deciphered the hieroglyph, it was his older brother Champollignon figeac, who started this falsification with his theory of “Black caucasian” which is as ridiculous as it sounds because we have over 69 eyewitness from ancient time (Herodotus, Al-Masudi, Aristotle and others) who clearly called them Black with wooly hair , some even state the shape of the big lips and the wide nose. I dare evryone to go read original greek texts and translate it for themselves on google translator:
here look at this original greek text, then use google translate yourself: www.sacred-texts.com/cla/hh/hh2020.htm
Go to Ref.: The Histories - Book 2, Section 22; by Herodotus
When you go on the website press book 2 and the go section 22, now take the whole paragraph and translate it. I can find 59 different authors saying the same. Even the bible and the Torah let you clearly know that they were negros with Mizraim being Cush little brother and being the descendant of Ham (progenitor of all the dark races in abrahamic religions)
@@supahotjoe6493 diop is now considered a pseudo fraud and afrocentric.
you can't lump all ancient Egyptians in the same gene pool since there were two distinct Egypt's back then, hence the term the Two Lands". Northern Egyptians in antiquity were culturally and genetically related to people from the Levant, while Southern Egyptians were culturally and genetically related to Nilotic people before they began to intermarry with northerners. You can definitely see these racial distinctions in the bust of Narmer, the first pharaoh to unify the 'two lands'. And you can absolutely see it in the face of the Sphinx. They both have an unmistakable Nilotic phenotype. I might even say a Dinka or Nuer look about him.
Partially true and parsley untrue...
@ybzuoiun ygzh xintyawmade Hamites? That is an out-dated term created by early racists anthropologists. To be called Hamite they would have to be a none-mixed ethnic group, which they're not.
@joseph adel I did go f**ck myself last night and it was so satisfying. Now stop cherry picking info from wikipedia. Like I said, Egypt had two distinct populations, it's still evident today. If you want to quote some peer reviewed article, find one that is more recent than 1993. There have been plenty of studies sense that decade that show exactly what I was talking about.
I am Egyptian and i am telling you that the dual lands existing were both upper Egyptians ; king narmer came from the same city of senusirt third who were fighting nubians and kushi (the first subsaharun people in africa) captivating them so bothlands were coptic and north african not another ones.
@@bakaribradford , what's your proof?
Changed language, changed religion, changed traditions. Just like every nation in this world.
bullseye 🎯
They literally didn’t go anywhere, Egyptians are largely Egyptian.
Mixed Egyptian
@@MoskusMoskiferus1611 Not true. Conquest had little impact on the overwhelming majority of the population.
@@user-hr9hy9it7q people think that military conquest will change the whole population at once
Ethnicity doesnt matter anyway only culture and language does, so in that way ancient egypt has barely any connection to modern egypt. Its now an arab country. Its part of greater arabia
@@bernhardrosnau169 It doesn’t matter what you think? It literally has everything to do with ethnicity, by your logic every single ancient civilisation except Japan is dead. And Greeks are not greeks.
Gods, your content is really incredible masaman. I would love to learn to research like you and put together videos. You're definitely an inspiration.
You did not say anything about the pharaohs being black and ruling Egypt for many years. How come?
Good question!
This is a why it’s important to tell your own story. Others will go so far they change your name. No matter what you call yourself. What a surprise. I see that practice is still around today. Good to know things never change.
"converted" & "assimilated" is an exremely sanitized way of putting it.
No it isn't. You're implying violent or coerced conversion, which the 400-year process should be proof enough against, not to mention the weight of contemporary evidence to the contrary.
That's because you are ignorant of the fact that for hundreds of year Christians were still the majority in Egypt and that Coptic Language died out only a few centuries ago.
If you think that this is highly sanitized, then what of French invasion of African nations who have lost their religion and are speaking French??!?
The term ARAB republic of Egypt was introduced after the military coup of 1952. We may speak a dialect of Arabic but we are certainly not majority Arabs. The only genuine Arabs in Egypt maybe the Bedouins of Sinai and a small percentage of upper Egypt.
@@MohOEM Are you coptic?
@@hotsauce153 Yes
@@MohOEM do you think ethnicity is by race or ancestry?
Make one about Mesopotamia and Levant
mohammed haitham good idea and it should include how and why they came to settle Egypt in the first place
Horn of Africa+ berbers= anicent Egypt
@d puski actully east africans and berbers are more related to each other then bantu and khoisan
Saynab Hibo berbers are not a race.
d puski they are not a race.
@Araweelo Xxxd Berber are mixed says the half Arab horner...
Didn't ancient Egyptians look down on Berbers?
The last ancient Egyptians left their country in the 20th century to start a career in Hollywood film studios. 😉
Very true. I seen the mummy in quite a few films 🎥 also that guy call The Egyptian 👦 very handsome fellor like me 👍
This comment is as ridiculous as this video lol, lmao I like your humor sir lol
Who is playing Assassin's creed origins?
Me! Actually playing it right now!
Red dead 2
Ancient Writing from the Old Kingdom.
Dhruva Narayan Me !
Man i cant get more than 5 min in without stopping
I'd recommend the book March of the titan's by Arthur Kemp for more info on the subject.
Hmm, interesting
@@heathenfire Your choice mate, no ones refuted the info in the book yet.
I'm half Egyptian and half English. My father (Egyptian) was of Turkish descent though he only spoke Arabic. On my mum's side (English) I also have Irish ancestry (Tralee). I find genetic origins mildly interesting, but in reality they mean very little. More important are the beliefs, cultural habits and above all character of a person that is important. (BTW Why was the Egyptian girl crying? Because her daddy was a mummy.)
Hassan Radwan i love your video
You are not Egyptian you are Arabic, one of the decendants of the Arab invaders. Fact.
They’re in Nubia or the Sudan rather
Eh. Sudanese were apart of the Egyptian juggarnaut, but not first ones. They were the last to matriculate.....
@@8dholland For Egypt to even exist, it was a colony of Nubia, genius!