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Should men PROVIDE for the women?
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2021
- This are my own thoughts. In no shape or form do I imply that what I say is the right way. All societies are different, people are different. Do what works for you😊.
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That's Finnish system,well educated ,well organized and equality system. Has protection of women and children. Men must up to the responsibility and pay up their consequences. Not even in America so Finnish has different natures. Good island
Big topic. Enjoyed your video. Great job explaining your personal experience as relates to handling money issues in your relationship and Finish society at large. Money, power, responsibility, autonomy. How do you handle chores/duties in your household? Did you meet your hasband in Kenya or Finland? If in Kenya, what was his expectation of you; and your expectation of him in the marriage? You look happy and free. Are you? Do you feel more complete at a deeper level stepping away from the African tradition? Not judging. Genuinely curious.
Untill I come to Finland..how it has changed me now..
I have learned to pay my own bills..my husband pays his..
I thought I was alone..
Thank you for this video
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 independence i tell you. We just learn.
Some men here I know they are so spoiled and l do not even like them. And children should not even spoiled because they have own allowance and now do not wants to listen from their mothers/ parents.
A woman should not suffer for man just like women suffer for child birth and upbringing up.
Some men here I know they are so spoiled and l do not even like them. And children should not even spoiled because they have own allowance and now do not wants to listen from their mothers/ parents.
I could take my own family tree as an example.
I am a retired elderly man. My mother was a housewife when her children where small. Before that she had her own job and income and also later. She wasn't the main provider, but her monetary and other contribution for the family was very important.
Her mother, my grandmother, had also worked and had been able to buy a home with his husband.
My fathers mother had been a factory worker before she had several children and had stayed home and my fathers father had been the sole provider for the family.
This history goes back some generations to the start of the previous century.
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😅😅😅thank you Sheila ❤️❤️
Should men provide for women? Is family choices and it's depends. I believe yes because magistrate is man who has to pay the wife rings. Is man who said l want to Merry her at magistrate! It's depends.
That true but I think women should help the man also, not wait for the man to do everything for them. However if a man is rich and wants to spoil his woman, why not😊?
Keep doing this hun 👌🏾
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I always buy a drinks or pay for food. Am I old-fashioned?🙈
How am I seeing this now🤭 I don't think you are old fashioned. You do you☺️
I want to get advice from third person. From You, but it is personal
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Can someone talk to you on any other social media platform or you just use CZcams ☺️
Hi Victoria, unfortunately for now it's just here. 😅😅
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Doesn't the ladies do most of the hunting in a lion pride. The leading male just joins in and eats the best parts until is full 🤔
There is no equality among them.
Humans have the ability to choose differently and choose different basic human values and rights. And once such selection is done, then more practical things like providing will can be decided depending on those principles and circumstances.
Nordic countries have chosen that society provides for the weakest members, who couldn't do it themselves.
Families have their own responsibility of their members. Legislation doesn't give any sex or gender special role to provide the others. If individuals want to have provider roles nothing stops them from doing do so. Often couples have different income levels, so they split financial burden to manageable levels for both. Having a partner who doesn't have own income at all is also fairly common, but somewhat exceptional.
Well that's true as well but I think where I grew up from was far far from what happens here. Men take care of major bills just because if you don't, you are not seen as man enough! Maybe with my generation bits beginning to change but really it's so different.
@@carthiekoivari your experience, what you mentioned, isn't much different from what it has been in Finland also. But there has been more and more educated and more independently thinking women during say last 50 years. Remember, gigolos are a real thing also, as are trophy wives, cold diggers etc... All kinds of people exist.
The normal generic situation or idea seems to be that couples are equal partners, where they both provide in some jointly agreed arrangement. That doesn't however take away all old traditional thinking or formalities in social situations. Women obviously want to enjoy some special attention as well as men. Some of it is just superficial like who opens the door, orders wine or takes care of a restaurant bill. If paying those bills or selection of the wine really matters, then it is done as a joint effort, since a couple is a team effort. Unless you are a kept woman...
Well that's true but I have not yet met that because like you said this happened 50 years ago. That's why I really wanted to talk about this. I think relationship should be fair ofcourse considering incomes. We have a long way to go I guess. Some young girls now want older men who have already made it cause they do not want to struggle. My point was just that I realized this could probably be so stressful for the male gender who end up doing anything just to look great in the eyes of the society.
@@carthiekoivari I know also very different cases, where young women have been attracted to men, who don't have the ability to provide, keep a job etc. Perhaps maternal instincts or something else, perhaps his artistic personality, have made women take partners, who they need to help in life.
@@carthiekoivari It seems to be true that for some status is very important and having some type of a woman is a status item.
Keeping up appearances and status must be stressful.
I don't know, if the expectations for males are more stressful than for females, but I can say that they are different.
I also dare to say that mothers have a key role in the process of sculpting how her children will see gender roles and expectations.
There are many other factors, but what I have seen, mothers influence is sometimes very clear. If mother is living in the past, then children also are likely to have backwards attitudes.