Jaguar Transmission FAULT...Can't Read Codes?? ('18 XE AWD Supercharged)
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- This 2018 Jaguar XE AWD looks mint...only 43k miles on the clock!
The owner says it drives fine, but recently had the battery replaced due to some low-voltage errors.
He found some WATER IN THE TRUNK!
He addressed the water leak, but now a TRANSMISSION FAULT message occasionally pops up on the dash.
He tried reading the codes, but said his SCANNER WON'T TALK to the car!
...hmm.
Let's address the NO-COMM issue first, then scan this beast for codes.
What will we find? Place your bets now!
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Ivan - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I had a leaky trunk on my Camry Hybrid, got water pool in there. Not good since main hybrid battery, and regular 12v are both in that area. Dried it out, pulled all the padding/trim, then put a couple GoPros in there with an Aputure light so I could get good video quality. Started the recording, closed the trunk and hosed water all over from ever angle. The video revealed two bumper cover trim clips above the license plate area had broken, and being broken, let in the H20 flow right in... easy fix with a couple silicone blobs.
And also, as somebody mentioned earlier, I love the fact that you are pushing up more videos. You're one of my favorites to watch and I was kind of sad when you got that job a few years back. Not sad for you but sad for me cuz you weren't doing very many videos and I was afraid you were going to stop. But seems like you got a solid footing now for your business and you probably have more work than you can handle at this point. So that's a win for you and a win for everybody else who loves to watch you which I am one of them. I appreciate you sir. Thank you
I always feel that watching one of Ivan's videos is time not wasted. I'll never have his skills, but mine have definitely improved.
I did a battery on one of these recently, the new battery needs to be coded to the car. It has an intelligent charging system, in order for it to function correctly it needs to know the battery type, size, rating, etc.
Cheers, thanks Ivan.
That's the same even with normal Ford cars etc. now, that are equipped with start-stop systems.
So true, it’s amazing how people still think that replacing wabattery on a car is like replacing a battery on a 18 year old Crown Victoria, or Cadillac CTS/ DTS or any other car that’s at least 18+ years old, when all you had to worry about after a better replacement was reprogramming your car stereo, Clock & Memory seat functions…
@@paulsz6194 No, what's surprising to me is that these so-called "intelligent charging systems" can't figure out the battery that's installed and the charging rate it needs. The term "Intelligent" has been turned into an oxymoron. Our 18-year-old Crown Victoria's or any other maker's regulator did just fine keeping the battery charged. Now we have these systems with all their modules and an "intelligent" charging system that can't keep the battery charged if one does a lot of short distance driving. That issue was covered in another mechanic's video with his new truck and short drive to work.
It also goes from having money in your bank account to broke in 0 to 60 seconds.
All I see wrong is it had a blown fuse. Ran and drove fine.
But when Toyauto or is it Teeota has a problem, then it's ok?
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@@billmalecno my tauwote doesn't leak.
@@_RiseAgainst but it's a boring piece of crap
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@@billmalec definitely not a peice of crap, and it doesn't possess tunnel digging capabilities.
I've seen a bad battery, voltage anomalies and stuff cause all kinds of silly codes. You didn't have us place bets, but from everything I've learned from you and S.M. auto, plus seeing the check system voltage on your computer, I figured the codes got set off by the previous battery. Why the blown fuse? No idea, clearing the codes was most likely just what the doctor ordered! I didn't comment on it but that Tundra case study blew my mind! Thank you for helping us understand the demons that live in our modern vehicles!
I have that car, it is worth every penny. Such a joy to drive. The haters can keep on hating!
👍👍
mustang is a cleaver , jaguar is a scalpel.
Those are certainly better than the '98 XJ8 my uncle used to own. It was a troublesome car to say the least.
I can’t believe that people haven’t learned to not buy those! Thanks Ivan!
Hey Ivan, I love your channel and watch it consistently for the last many many years. I love how you have slowly brought in a little humor. A little innuendo into your channel! It's highly entertaining on top of your wonderful skills that you have already. Keep it up buddy!
"It's a beautiful day, lets see if the supercharger works". I'm still laughing at that statement.
It's funny that you and Car Wizard both posted about red Jaguars within a day of each other.
Another weird case, Ivan! Straightforward diagnostic, pointing to expensive repair and then, it miraculously went good. Your reputation disarms any snobbish car into submission :-)
Short and sweet is sometimes the best verdict! 👍👍🇺🇸
Spare tire has nicer rim than my LS rims.
Who knew we would see some gravy getting done today.
Good quick diagnosis on something that could have taken hours and hours. Nice job.
The red paddle shifter adds another 10 HP.
And thus begins the long, slow march of this once 100k machine toward a future of deferred maintenance & repair, ultimately culminating in a complete basket case of a 90-95% depreciated asset.
It's euro trash, even the wealthy owners get sick of maintaining them. They aren't a Toyota or a Honda, Euro trash are complicated for the sake of being complicated, not to make them better. It's a elitist mind set.
It's a moment we all know, but rarely caught on camera on real time 😂
More like 50-60k range.
can you say "nickel and dime"? Or maybe with Jag, "$100 and $500"
Related to another comment, but could be relevant to this car, Ford/Volvo/JLR of that time period often used a clever battery management system. There is a sensor in the battery negative lead which monitors current in and out of the battery. With my car it would throw a low battery warning very quickly if you parked up with the radio on for a few minutes. The "fix" was to unplug the sensor for a few seconds while the engine is running and then reconnect it (a small 2 pin connector). The BMS then relearns the battery, it is possible that this procedure was not done when that battery was replaced. Thank you for your videos, always educational and a well thought out diagnosis.
The OBD 2 connector and the transmission park position sensor is powered by the same fuse,,had a similar experience with the mercedes
No way... Didn't see that on the wiring diagram! 😅
Aint no way I watched 10 min for you to replace obd connector fuse 😂
another brilliant diagnostic.
OBD2 out! now that's a first!
Jaguar and Land Rover are notorious for reliability, but as you say if it drives OK, continue. JLR owners learn fast about reliability.
Thanks again for your videos and diagnostic proceedure.
Ivan going hard lately on videos. Ur a machine sir lol
A Jag with electrical problems, say it ain't so. 😂🤣
We're moving to the country and contemplating getting a horse and buggy to get around. Everything is getting far too complicated.
Maybe consider an old VW beetle first. Much less maintenance and no fear of getting kicked. 👍👍🇺🇸😅
Probably should pick up a gas mask as well😮
Horses can be complicated and expensive to repair too 😂
😊 seems like good plan. I lived in and moved covered wagon until I reached the age of 12. One of the best times in my life.
I don't have a place for a horse, so I might get a pogo stick instead.
nice score on the little Honda, ya we saw it...
I've owned both Hondas for 20 years! Cool bikes but I'm more of a Yamaha guy 😁
I saw that 5 amp fuse had a branch off to something else. What was on that circuit? Glad you took a look at your OBD connector. Last yr I almost got booted from the ridiculous plug and pass OBD emissions test on my 05 Acura as an automatic fail. The tech couldn't get com. I asked to look at the connector. His side had 2 bent pins...I moved to a different lane and went through n/p..
I also saw that branch, but Ivan said the fuse only feeds the diag connector???
It was the 2 powered pins of the DLC.
Brains before brawn. Best auto expert on You Tube.
Awesome tutorial.
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Hey Ivan first thing I thought of watching this was when the owner changed the battery. Since their OBD port was down it would not surprise me if the new battery was never registered. I don’t know if this year Jaguar uses a similar system to Mercedes/audi/bmw where the new battery has to registered to computer/alternator but can definitely see that causing a random erroneous
error in some modules since those cars are so sensitive to voltage.
Never noticed the old CB360, I pulled one just like it out of a field but let it go bc I had too many projects at the time
Thank you PHAD
I'm surprised you didn't at least find the module and check for any wiring problem, especially with that water ingress and the intermittent problem. We have seen before in your vids where the suggested "replace the module" only listed cure turns out not to be necessary at all. Also, what blew that fuse?
Ironically, British cars are unable to deal with rain
That _is_ ironic😊
Honorable mention to Jaguar for seeing how many modules you can put in a car, giving BMW some competition besides Mercedes
With the power fault to the dlc, it interrupts power to tcm topology? That's my theory, but nice car, i love jaaaaaaag. Lol (Clarkson comment lol)
Nice fix and great video Ivan!
Could there be some sort of cross-over from that OBDll circuit with the blown fuse to the TCM? Since the fault has not recurred since you sorted it.
These things get really complex.
Deus ex machina!
I was curious to see which codes would come back after deleting them and doing the Italian tune up. Would be satisfying bonus footage.
Love the steps to find the root cause. Any Memorial Day specials on readers you’ve heard of?
I kind of knew it was just going to be a case of deleting the codes after a battery replacement. Have seen this issue multiple times with customers replacing their own battery.
Good to know the super charger is functioning
Till now
I wonder if the DLC fuse had anything to do with it. The diagram showed the circuit branched off somewhere, maybe as a secondary power feed to the GSM.
Consumer protection should Stop car manufacturers to dumping their lousy cars problems on their customers, all Americans should make a class action law suit , and demand car manufacturers fix their own junk
Admire your troubleshooting skills.
One of the possibilities listed was low voltage.... There's your problem lady 😂
Gee I panicked! I thought you were going to end the video without a test drive🤨. Had your belt on for the beast as well 👍
Yes I always buckle up in the fast cars 😅
Hey Ivan, great job on the diagnosis. It's great to see how important service information (SI) is in your diagnosis. I don't mean to mess with your customer, but consumers need to realize that while it’s a really nice car, when it comes to repairs, you need to have deep pockets when you buy one of these European vehicles. From the description in your video, it sounds like this customer is a bit of a DIYer and can turn a nice car into a beached whale if they don't know what they're doing. Instead of the customer bringing it to the Jaguar dealer, they'll probably go to one of those national chain transmission shops, where things will probably go from bad to worse. Soon to be another beached whale in some independent garage's parking lot.
Wonder if that dead battery caused the fault and only clearing the code would stop the warning from coming back some cars are like that
i noticed in the possible problems low battery issue , was that the issue
Any British car always had bad electrical systems and bad oil leaks. In 2018 it seems they have never improved their quality control. Too bad it’s a beautiful car and I would have loved to own one but after seeing this I changed my mind fast. No wonder these cars sell for such a steep discount as well as Maserati’s. It was tempting to buy one of these for half the price of new for a 3 year old car. Thanks Ivan for posting this and saving me the grief.
I've wanted a Jaguar since the Series 3 XJ6. The more I learned, the less I wanted one, but they were such beautiful cars that it might have been worth it. Deep down, I knew that the reasons they were cheap was the reasons why I shouldn't buy one.
Lucas, Prince of Darkness 🙂
Hay Ivan great content as usual Thankyou from the home of( Jag you are ) not your pronounce😂👍
At 16:13 ck out those Hondas!!! Couple showroom condition bikes there. What models are they?
Not sure about "showroom condition"...all 5 of my bikes are daily riders haha! The two in the garage were the 65 Honda S90 and 74 Honda CB360 :)
That spare tire well should have a drain hole you'd think. Also, since the Jag runs and drives fine, if it ain't fixed, don't break it!
It looks like transmission message had somthing tonm do with OBD2 blown fuse power, i dont know, fixing the OBD2 problem, fixes the transmission warning message, may be.
I would also put the selector in M and go through the gears with the shift paddles up and down. You'll find a bad solenoid that way too. I'd change the transmission fluid as its overdue anyway and confirm his battery/charging system is up to par. However, I wouldn't go to the dealership first. I would head for a good transmission builder shop who knows how those computer trans work, inside and out. Dealers don't rebuild transmissions; they replace them with factory remanufactured or new. Waste of money. Nice to have repaired the customers fuse and DEC.
Ah, the unexpected Ivan post! I know what I'm doing the next 17.5 minutes 😂
ZF is actualy very good transmission. Works also in BMW. Was it a SALE?
For the TCU, I'm sure if they go to the Jaguar/Land Rover dealer they're going to recommend a whole mechatronics unit (What ZF/Germans call the valvebody with the TCU integrated). You can replace just the TCU which isn't hard. You drain transmission fluid, remove the pan, and drop the valvebody which is about 10 - 15 screws and then unclip the TCU. The problem is that nobody who uses the ZF8 (Audi, BMW, LandRover, etc.) will sell only the TCU, only the whole mechatronics unit. If they can find one for cheap on eBay, swap it over and have a dealer program the TCU to the car's VIN that's they're best bet. I was able to get an entire 62k mile ZF8 for my Audi for only $365 (not including shipping) so I can't imagine the valvebody or TCU on eBay being expensive.
Unfortunate that's probably the solution, but these ZF8 transmissions are tried and trued. Excellent transmission both when they're need to be smooth, as well as aggressive and sporty (almost matching the performance of a dual clutch) while extremely reliable.
Im disappointed in you Ivan. I atleast expected a wiring diagram check to see if there are any connectors for green crusties to form at. Possibly even examining the TCM for any kind of water damage or obvious failure points. The blown fuse and KNOWN water intrusion were atleast to me pretty obvious red flags that something more serious may have been going on to cause these issues. The secondary wire at 5:12 for the OBD fuse was atleast worth investigating to see if it could be related.
I also expected you not to take service info at face value and prove that the short has to be happening inside the TCM. If the service info said "Replace Engine", you would have dug deeper to verify the actual cause of the info.
Now maybe there was something else missing here like the TCM & Shifter were all one integrated module or the customer only approved of absolute minimal diagnostics because the issue is more annoying than anything else. If that was the case, probably should have made that a bit more clear.
Overall probably not your best work as it really felt like "Not a real issue, double check service info for anything obvious and onto the next car". But getting it right 99/100 times is still an A+ 😎. Keep up the great work and hope to see what else comes at you in the future.
TCM is integrated into the transmission, and transmission is completely inaccessible. What else am I supposed to do? 😂
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Not being a hater, just expected more than "Service Info says your fucked, talk to the dealer for repairs".
Sometimes you can't fix everything
@@Dje4321 This is real-world diagnostics haha
Hi 3:55.how many watt is that bulb?
I’m British and wouldn’t touch a Jaguar when they were British owned and made in England.
I certainly wouldn’t have one in my garage now whatever conglomerates own the brand.
They were company directors cars that were regularly repaired at the company expense.
Thanks Ivan. The transmission showed like 8-ZF is this German or American transmission?
We "have to check the supercharger." Well yeah, obviously 😂
From watching a lot of YT videos I have gathered that exotic cars tend to be very sensitive to minor battery fluctuations. Well, minor if you drive an old Honda. (90% probability there is NOT a transmission issue.) However, I did see on the OEM page you displayed to check transmission fluid level. Seems like you have to go to a dealer for that. Since the car is 6 years old I bet its never been checked. Would definitely recommend it get checked.
I have a 1998 Ford Explorer that won't read. Turns out after some research, some of these vehicles that were made have a swapped transistor in them that prevents reading it.
Did his connection of his scan tool cause a blown fuse
Hey Ivan interesting diag. I scanned a 2010 Cadillac SRX Transmission code P0989-00. Now get this vehicle battery replace and water intrusion. Cleared those close. Client states code has not come back yet. Hmmmm.
Just curious why would you send him to the dealer if he wanted it fixed?
Is that a 1966 Honda s90 in the background. Looks pretty nice. I had one when I was about 12. Great video not such a great car. 🚗
You should have looked in the owner's manual. There is a diagram of all the fuse box locations as well as the individual fuses in each fuse box.
I'd also drill a drain hole in the low areas of the trunk just in case it develops any new leaks.
Are those bikes an S90 and a CB360? Had a 90 and still have a 360.
Why can’t they put a control module of the outside of the transmission? Seems it would be a lot easier to diagnose and repair
Do Jaguar still use Lucas (Prince of Darkness) Electric products in their cars?
Info service talked about the battery maybe the fautl arrived with the old battery and now fixed after erased code. always pleasant
Yep I think old battery code was to blame. But why fuse blown ? Sabotage to make sure codes could not be read by a previous owner/seller ?
Ignore the minor fault code, just like being married.
Is that a 60's Honda 90 in the background I see next to your Yamaha?
65 Honda S90 and 74 Honda CB360 😎
Maybe when the battery was replaced somebody had a memory keep plugged into the OBD socket and as they were changing over the battery they accidently touched the positive cable to ground, that would blow the 5amp fuse.
I would do a transmission oil change
Could you remove the tcm to inspect the internals and or the connector pins ?
No. It's inside the transmission lol
So the park position sensor is integrated into the TCM and is not a standalone sensor.?
Correct. Everything is integrated these days lol
if you have a thinktool or launch you can clone the tcm, no programming needed
The Italian Tune-up successfully fixed the TCM… NPR.
Shoulda checked the fluid level just to cover that base. Thanks for the vid, Ivan!
PHAD magic. Thanks Ivan!
Off subject, I saw a video where a guy added a headlamp to his auto darkening welding helmet to help him see better
Check engine light comes on
Me: *opens hood, Sees engine* "Yep, Its still there."
bought a saturn ion crank no start for scrap value 300 dollars i almost gave up found the weirdest thing silicone in the intake blocking air flow removed and car started and ran well but code reader still would not work checked all fuses found com fuse blown replaced and code reader worked drove 2 years only 1 relay relay replace son son totaled car insurance gave 3500
I had a customer bring in a 2021 land rover discovery 110 recently where the shifter knob would not pop up sometimes. I later found out that the owner had spilled a drink over the center console a few months prior and it just started acting up. The dealer quoted him nearly 3 grand to fix it.
Money pit 🤑💰💸
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Absolutely! No argument here.
It's enough to make you wish they'd bring Lucas back.
The prince of darkness strikes again😅
What scanner are you using?
The one that's always listed in the description :)
Quest - Ivan, Why not check the automatic transmission fluid level since it evidently is a possible problem/cause of the warning light and the vehicle is physically in your shop? 🤔Just asking for me.😳
No dipstick 😂
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Thank you for the response/rational
(Personally I hate despise,loathe,abhor,have grievous revulsion);you get my P.OV. Concerning manufacturer’s replacing physical dipsticks with electronic sensor fluid level devices. Seems ( too me) a case of “look how clever we can be”. More things to go wrong, more complex,etc.
Really miss the ability of an operator/owner to verify quantity as well as physical condition of the applicable fluid.
(Sorry for the rant, just an opinion).
Stay safe.
Jim B,
p.s. please give my regards to Eric O. if you “see” him.
By the way, as I said a few months ago, I'm still for a fund for you to get an 8- channel scope. I think you deserve it and need it
In the transmission world we see lots of low voltage fault codes sets that don't really cause issues. I know clearing the codes dosent fix a vehicle but if you replace the batter and clear codes fixed is fixed lol
I bet it was the weak battery. It said on the diag on the screen to check the battery voltage as one of the steps. New battery fixed the problem
I saw the CB 360 first ☺ The XS-850 is gone ? ? 😟
CB360 was my very first motorcycle that I learned to ride on back in 2003. It's coming out of retirement this year! The Yamaha XS750 is my main touring bike, always ready to hit the road :)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics ? ? ? ? ? I saw your videos about it😊. . was'nt it a 850 ? ? ? in a special caramel color ? ?
Didn't check ATF level?