Hulk Then vs Hulk Now
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2020
- Some clips from what the Hulk was like in 2008 and what the Hulk is currently like in the MCU. It really shows the true power of the absolute unit known as Hulk
The Incredible Hulk
Avengers
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Thor: Ragnarok
Avengers: Infinity War
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Hulk is just there to show how strong an enemy is when they kick his ass.
Maybe he isn't strongest there is, after all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The main problem with the hulk we have now is that the writers of the MCU seem to use him as a way of showing the strength of other characters, but they’ve done it enough times for it to not mean anything now.
Yeah. Hulk the jobber. 😒
MCU hulk has no anatomy of Hulk's personality and the way he acts but makes him a jolly green ogre
No longer the Worf Effect, now it's the Hulk Effect. Hulk, the Almighty Jobber!
@@demothewikigod6297 😂😂😂
@@demothewikigod6297 have you seen bleach abridged by chance 👀
The worst one is Thanos vs the Hulk. In the comics, Thanos has stated that the Hulk is one of the few entities in the universe he goes to great efforts to avoid. In Infinity War (or was it endgame?), Thanos takes out the Hulk like it's nothing.
Thanos in the comics also stated that the main reasoning for about 80% of his goals was to impress a literal girl that was somehow the physical form of death
@@omegamyee5592 wtf does thta have to do with anything
@@ovs4744 it has to do with the fact that many comic book accurate things would make people torch down the marvel studios if they ever actually got implemented. I'm so sick of people just cherry picking certain plot elements from the comics and using that as a way to say that the movie adaptions suck, when in reality, a decent handful of the comic plot points and character traits suck ass sometimes lmao. If you want to make the "muh comic book accurate character" arguement, then you would have to also acknowledge the comics faults too
It was in Infinity War. The only reason Hulk only lost to Thanos is because he already possessed 2 stones if that means anything to you. To me, having a 3rd of the strongest power in the known universe would mean that I'm pretty much unbeatable. Plus, at the time Hulk only attacked out of rage and not tactical thought whereas Thanos had who knows how many years of battle experience. Someone capable of conquering world's without the infinity stones should be able to handle a Hulk. At least for a little while.
It's been stated before but everyone in the MCU has been nerfed. No one has their canonical strengths. Also each film states that they're inspired/based on the Marvel comics which gives the impression that they're not just copying and pasting what was done in the comics onto the big screen. They could but where's the fun in that?
Hulk vs Sentry is one of the best I've seen but seeing it in a movie is very unlikely, almost null and void.
Mark has turned Hulk into a comedian and thank you Kevin Feige for taking away this incredible character.
Ruffalo was great in the infinity saga. Edward Norton is overrated and mid as hulk. Cry about it mate.
@@hazman5528Ruffalo is very mid in infinity saga. Cry about it
@@Markiplierforreal still better than Norton in said saga lmao. Cry about it
@@hazman5528 Norton had a more intense movie made for older kids better than all Ruffalo’s. Cry about it
@@Markiplierforreal “older kids” LMAO. Read what are you actually saying right now and if you can’t recognise the stupidity then there is something wrong with you. The Avengers movies and Thor Ragnarok completely stomp whatever mediocrity 2008’s hulk had to offer
Ruffalo’s hulk had more interesting character development, his portrayal as banner was more compelling in his Best appearances and he is way better in an avengers dynamic. Norton is overrated and mid. Cry about it.
I always loved that scene when hulk used a piece of metal to protect himself from the grenade launcher, really shows that he's not mindless
I do also love the part when he saves betty my doing a 'thunderclap' blowing out the fire before it ignites the fuel. Yet again showing he's not a mindless monster and that banner is still very much inside of that monster.
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"Yet again showing he's not a mindless monster and that banner is still very much inside of that monster."
which was literally the point of the 2008 movie, especially if you consider the final hulk scenes, where he basically starts to speak proper language while in his hulk form
But surely shooting guy was mindless, he closed distance and later he had to run xDDDDDDD
loved the taxi glove
@@Natan150full i was thinking that too
I think we can all agree that Edward Nortons hulk was the scariest, most intimidating and had the best scream
It was just king kong 2005 roar :|
But yeah the best
Best hair too
The 2008’s Hulk would snap Thanos in half and it would takie him like 30 seconds max
Edit: After reading comments and doing some research, I have come to conclusion: Thanos would definately win against Ed Nortons' Hulk, no doubt. However their battle would be at least legendary.
I was about to say the same thing lol 😂 ed nortons hulk for me was much better just cause he looked a lot tougher and intimidating and he did use some smarts plus he looked ripped compared to avengers hulk, hes just chunkier and he dont have that six pack like nortons does. Overall ed nortons was and is still a better looking hulk imo.
Now hulk can be stopped by a car😞
I read up on this recently. Apparently Norton had a bunch of grand ideas that made production a pain during the Incredible Hulk. That and Ruffalo was willing to work more as a team according to Marvel. Norton was upset though because the way Marvel did it made it seem like he was toxic when I think it was more just being used to having lead role.
Yeah and ? Look at what Norton CREATED compared to what Mark has to UPHOLD . Edward Norton embodied the essence of Bruce banner and look at Disney's rendition of "the hulk " its pathetic . Even 2008 graphics are better its sad honestly .
@@xrpinfinite yea i noticed that the cgi and everything looks so much better in the 2008 movie
I consider Mark Ruffalo's work on the first Avengers movie to be a worthy depiction of both Bruce Banner and Hulk. In that regard I don't think Norton's departure hurt the character. Where the franchise took them afterward is what I object to.
@@danieldickson8591 it's OK not all of us accept to eat trash everyday everyone has different acquired tastes.
I definitely don’t see it to be bad he has all these ideas to make a character hes playing good, both him and ruffalo are good it’s just Disney that is the problem
they basically made hulk a mindless brute, but the 2008 version shows that he's not only strong but creative in his attacks
In my opinion the thing that made the “old hulk” more terrifying was that he had no care for his own well being, meaning he had nothing to loose. He was actually willing to die trying to kill his enemy.
🇮🇱 is not a legit state
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@@SpeedKing.. I think you just walked into a joke, but I'm not sure
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I always loved how combat proficient, and creative the old hulk was, while being a horrifying and powerful beast at the same time.
Yeah, feel the same. He wasn't a talkative fella but hell yeah he was battle efficient. No talking, just pure combat prowess and strength that can rip you to shreds
When I was little, it was less of an action movie, and more of an unnerving, interesting experience.
Bro split a car in half to use as makeshift brass knuckles
But I don't like it at all.
Now it's just green Mark Ruffalo
Edward Norton: The Incredible Hulk
Mark Ruffalo: The Incredibly Mediocre Hulk
It’s funny you say that given Norton’s hulk is the mediocre one compared to Ruffalo’s hulk in the infinity saga. But I get it, you Norton fanboys are delusional.
@@hazman5528😂😂😂😂 fanboy mcu gonna cry ?
@@hazman5528rufallo hulk=kid hulk
Norton hulk=badass hulk
Facts
@@lukinhaszebr5163 every delusional Norton fanboy thinks that. I don’t think you know what “facts” mean. Also Norton’s hulk is also part of the MCU. Dumbass lmao.
@@hazman5528 >>Ruffalo’s hulk in the infinity saga
Ah yes, the Hulk that got his hand burnt, beaten up by Thanos and then reduced into a backseat nerd character.
I miss Edward Norton. At least he cared about the character. He’s been a fan of Hulk since he was a kid.
Old Hulk: Unstoppable force of Nature and Pure Rage
Current Hulk: Comic Relief
@Void Dragonium didnt mind she hulk in the comics until the thing happened 🤮
comic relief feels like it's just every single MCU character now, it gets annoying when every character is constant comic "relief", where's my relief from the comic relief
Pretty much describes every new mcu characters tbh
@@trickbaitman lmao right I need some relief from all the comedy it's too much sometimes
Whoever Came Up With That Idea Should Get Their Shit Pushed In
Ed Norton will forever be the true Hulk.
You Norton fanboys are delusional. Ruffalo was better in phase 1-3
@@hazman5528 “Was” now he’s what? One of the Backyardigans
@@HEADHONCHO_3 Ruffalo still better in the infinity saga. That’s the point I’m making. You Norton fans can only rely on phase 4 as an argument lmao
@@hazman5528 Ruffalo hulk was only good in the first avengers and age of Ultron after that they fucked him into oblivion
@@YondoMoloni mark Ruffalo’s hulk is better due to having actual better character development and a better portrayal/performance in his best appearances (avengers 1&2 and Ragnarok hulk >>> your precious Norton). Norton’s hulk was overrated and 2008 was a mediocre movie. Cry about it kiddo. You know deep down it’s true. Only shit appearance is she hulk but we’re not talking about that are we? I’m talking about the infinity saga.
Also to say they killed in endgame is nonsense and to say Professor hulk didn’t do anything “impressive in endgame” is bullshit. Developing time travel with tony? Convincing Thor and the ancient one? Wielding the stark gauntlet with all SIX infinity stones? You remember none of that? You’re another delusional Norton Stan who can’t handle the fact that 2008 hulk only became popular ever since she hulk came out and was the sudden “masterpiece” always due to Ruffalo’s hulk declining like Hemsworth’s Thor in phase 4. Try again bud. Of course a brainless twerp like you would only care about “HuLk SmAsH” lmao.
Edward Norton’s Hulk had a terrifying presence, that’s really what makes Hulk so badass is that he’s a force of unbridled horrific rage. He really captured the intense anger of the character, the monster that Hulk is meant to be. They made Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk a dumb brute which just isn’t the case, even in his angriest he still has the intelligence of a scientist with a PhD. Not to mention his speed. Losing to Thor to me seemed incredibly out of character especially considering he’s faced off against Silver Surfer and come out victorious.
I didn't realize the Hulk now got his ass kicked alot looking back at these clips. The old Hulk looked damn near unstoppable
@Yamii but would you think he'd lose every fight?
@Yamii he's been champion of sakaar only for we to see him lose, we don't see him winning anything there
@Yamii what character development are you talking about?
@Yamii stfu. If it was thors movie, then don't include hulk like what..? Why was Ironman included in civil war if its cap movie? Also the movie was good but hulk whole progression was ruined like professor hulk? Come on... this was character progression arc, it was nerfing arc fr
@Yamii Champion of sakaar doesn't prove anything, since the overlord there shocked the opposition to a loss, if Hulk seemed like he was gonna lose.
The Hulk(2008)'s fighting style is way more flexible to me, like how he can manage to find a way to defeat his enemies even with all those muscles, he still uses his brain a little. While the Avenger Hulk is just doing punches and act bigger
Exactly. This Hulk wasn’t just a savage, he was actually intelligent.
@@anomaly395 Omg.. It's because hulk was scared that somebody actually managed to defeat him in Infinity war.. And he wouldn't come out. So Banner Combined Both Of their personality Into one. PROFESSOR HULK
@@luisandraepascua2505 Yeah, and it was executed horribly. Also, Abomination nearly beat the Hulk, but he didn’t get scared, he got angrier when he realized the person he loved was in danger. I can see him being a little weary of Thanos but not how they played it off in Infinity War.
Although I made no mention of Infinity War so I don’t know why you’re saying this…
@@anomaly395 key word "almost" Thanos straight up pummeled him and Hulk could hardly fight back... With abomination it was at least a fair fight... Hulk knew he couldn't beat Thanos but instead of doing the heroic thing and brushing himself off... He hid.
@Plang- Plang hulk has always been a savage... Favoring his strength above actual skill...
I will always argue to the end of time that Norton is the best Bruce Banner and Hulk we've ever had. Not only is Edward Norton well-versed in portraying dissociative characters, like the narrator in Fight Club and Aaron in Primal Fear, but he is also the perfect body type and size for to play Bruce. I always found the Ruffalo was a little beefier than Bruce Banner has always been designed.
exactly Norton Hulk is the exact same from the comics
Edward Norton's Hulk movie is the bastard child of the MCU. I always wondered what could have been.
I think one appeal about the rendition of the Hulk from 2008 was the attention to detail on his skin. While the Hulk from the current MCU looks like a healthy, swole body builder with green body paint, 2008 looks… unhealthy, monstrous. You can kinda feel the morbid concoction of his rage and gamma ray boiling up on every crease of his skin.
That's a really great and accurate interpretation. You can also tell the gamma is really kicking in when his eyes turn green in the old movie those attention to details really made me love the movie
Yeah, i felt like the newer Hulk's skin was a little too smooth, i like the 2008's design more.
MCU Hulk is a much more family friendly version.
Yeah, Hulk increases his muscle mass and size but not his fat. New Hulk got fatty muscles. Old one was ripped as fuck (which made sense).
@@ginomora5057 yeah i remember when i went to gyms they always have these hulk posters on them, i was like wtf, how the fuck am i gonna get that buff
I’ve been defending Incredible Hulk for years and now that She-Hulk is out, a ton of people are joining the defense. Sometimes you just gotta see how bad things can get to appreciate what you had.
That’s so true 😭
Counterpoint: something new being bad doesn't make this old thing good, especially when the old thing was also terrible.
Stop being a brainlet.
Yep. I like to call it the Prequels Effect. Fitting that it comes from the same parent company...
Same
Yeah like she hulk made me realize how good the
hulk was… like she hulk could have been great I was looking forward to it. They absolute ruined her though. Like they didn’t need to disrespect the hulk for trying to help her the entire time… makes nauseous just watching it.
When Disney touches any masterpiece, it gets destroyed instantly.
Well said
Ya know.... This just made me wanna rewatch The Incredible Hulk again. Such an underrated movie.
I agree with this, you can literally see every single muscle on his body and looking like an absolute embodiment of rage, he actually seemed STRONGER the angrier he got, not only that but a bit of Banner's intelligence shines through when he uses his surroundings effectively, unlike the newer hulk who just uses debris by throwing it randomly and just being a punching bag to make another character seem strong, what's next? A dad-bod Hulk?
Straight out of the comics. He's my favorite hulk!!!!
People are gonna shit their pants if they reveal Maestro when Hulk is tired of being sandbag
2008 Hulk reminds me of the 90s animated series Hulk
This guy deliberately took out the badass Hulk scenes from the MCU. What about the part where Hulk completely destroys the Iron Man suit mid air, and has Tony Stark saying "I'm sorry" after spitting out his teeth?????
That is why he's the strongest Avenger....
When Tony said “We have a hulk”, he was talking about the Norton hulk
nortons hulk would absolutely be one of the stronger avengers. he was planned to be hulk in the mcu untill they fired him after that one movie. in my opinion that was a mistake, ruffalo is good as bruce banner but not the better hulk. i'd like to see norton as mcu's hulk tbh, think it would be a success.
@@glennaronjohnsenbrustad7599 as much as I love Edward Nortons Hulk and want him back. Not with Disney in the way. I feel they would butcher Edward's Hulk. I feel Marvel movies would be better without Disney
Exatly
@@glennaronjohnsenbrustad7599 holy shit I’m not reading that paragraph nerd😭😭
After seeing how the Hulk stopped a gigantic Chitauri leviathan in one hit in that movie, I think he was definitely talking about Ruffalo's Hulk. It is impressive how what the Russo brothers did with the Hulk caused people to think that Ruffalo's Hulk was always a weakling, forgetting about everything that happened in Avengers 1 where the Hulk was a totally unstoppable machine of destruction
"Hulk" couldn't even beat the Toxic Avenger at this point.
I've almost forgot how cool and epic Marvel was
At 0:03, you can see the deltoids in hulks shoulders tense up trying to stop the weight of himself as he lands. It conveys so much mass and strength and its just an incredible detail. The way he still rocks forward a foot or so even after he plants his hands into the ground just trying to stop his own weight. The animators for this hulk and the people who MADE this rig show incredible attention to detail. I can only imagine how long it took to model and rig the muscles like that. Showing the striations in his body when he flexes. Just a work of art on that front alone.
and to add, the sound engineers giving him one of the most beastly voices ever. When the hulk says, "HULK SMASH." It sounds like a monster just barely able to articulate words. This movie does wonders for his character.
@@user-mh6ie9wm6m agreed! immense attention to detail, well-developed character regarding his beast like tendencies as Hulk, just overall great. It's really a shame that the current Ruffalo hulk looks 'just buff', rather plain and under detailed actually, whilst the Hulk is supposed to be this shredded monstrous entity. Ruffalo's Hulk is slow and rather mindless, whilst Norton's Hulk is seen using his brains and using metal to fend off an actual grenade launcher.
To me it seems like a game's cutscene with the way he moves
@@Chicxulubs Of course the hair
@@Chicxulubs and look what we got now Disney CGI with just changing model based on motion suit and look terrible lol
In the comics, he was able to shake the entire world with a single step at his most angry state. Currently in the mcu, he could be beaten by Batman with no prep time.
Batman?
@@khan.hassan I'd say robin lol.
Does that matter tho cuz i agree with you but a show isn't about strength it's about plot and development l
@@themainatagonist4019 Yeah. And the plot and development of the Hulk has been taken in a terrible direction. All character development he had has pretty much been off screen.
@@Aidan_Infinity true to be honest
Hulk before: HULK SMASH
Hulk now: HULK IS SMASHED
Old is gold... always... period.
Hulk in the 2008 movie was not only more intimidating, but also seemed like a much better fighter as well, he used his surroundings a lot to gain advantage towards his opponents unlike in the later movies where he's mostly only punching like a mindless beast relying solely on his weight
He seemed a lot more sluggish in the later films with less awareness of his surroundings. They definitely made him dumber.
and he used the Iconic Smash! I notice about the MCU hulk is he's going to a professor hulk rather that a savage hulk back in the days so Hulk development is continuing.
People "know" it's either brains or brawn.
If you combine the two it makes people confused for some reason. Like nerds aren't allowed to be bodybuilders/athletes or something.
Wow it’s your homework essay to analyse the versions of Hulk? 😲
Yeah because the writers actually respected the character
The New hulk never gets stronger when he’s angrier, he just starts screaming and jumping continuously. The old 2008 Hulk grew when he got angry, (he grew a very small amount) and he grew stronger when he got angrier.
Yeah and what sucks is that they’re actually the same hulk. Just had the actor to be recasted. But 2008 hulk was way better.
2003 hulk is the one that grows bigger
Not the 2008 hulk
Fuck ya 2008 hulk is the strongest
I'm not sure why but I guess they decided to trade in the usual hulk where we expect him to get angry for a calmer hulk who gets funnier the nicer he gets. Mark Ruffalo as the hulk peaked at age of ultron and ragnarok but after that he just went downhill.
I really agree with you, such a shame Hulk didn't go that way later, in my opinion very badly shown in the infinity war, in the endgame bit better but still not what we all want so much
WE NEED THE OLD HULK BACK
The thing I appreciated most about the "old hulk" (other than the incredible cgi) was how he behaved less like a child throwing a tantrum like with Ruffalo hulk, and more like a ferocious beast, far more menacing. And I appreciate that way more than the current hulk, like yeah the current hulk was really great being the funny character in Ragnarok, but other than that I want hulk to seem genuinely enraged, I want hulk to be scary. Adds way more weight to the whole turning into a dangerous monster thing, makes him feel like his character is actually more of a loose cannon.
Ever since seeing Edward Norton’s Hulk as a kid, I pictured the Hulk as an unstoppable force of nature that could destroy even his closest friends if he went berserk. Nowadays, he seems like a chihuahua compared to Norton and his version in the comics. Granted, Thanos had the Power stone when he fought Hulk, but it didn’t even look like he had to use it. It’s a damn shame how his character turned out
Yeah bruh.. even the director and the writer in that movie confirmed thanos didn't use any stone while smacking hulk at that scene.. That Dad Bod hulk got nerfed so hard..
I think you mean Mark Ruffalo for the first sentence of your comment
@@heydrianluisanilao1757 nah man, you are clueless if you think that. Have you seen this video? Stop simping for the current mcu and come to grips witht the fact that old hulk was better.
@@TeenPerspektiva Old MCU was better in general. Currently they just spew out pure rotten garbage.
@@TeenPerspektiva What? Seriously? Simping with the MCU, what the heck. I like Norton's Hulk 100× more than Ruffalo's Hulk. The thing is, I got confused with the pronouns the commenter used, so I thought there was a mistake stating the names of the actors. Though now I have read it again and I get what he wants to say
Imagine the 2008 hulk joining the End game battles. He'll be more intimidating to the Enemy.
Doctor strange, Wanda, thor are all dealing with him pretty easily
@@ybkid6513 yea agreed 08 hulk would fuck up thanos and his army and shit the avengers too
@David Tach dude they won’t deal with the hulk easily they might have a chance in defeating him but not easily like that
@David Tach it’s no opinion it’s a fact they will probably have a chance in winning but it won’t be easy the hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets
@@tbone2123 “this hulk could fuck up thanos” I pray to god that you’re joking🤦♂️
All I can say is: one of them STILL gives me goosebumps, the other... never did...
That part with Tony like, GO TO SLEEP GO TO SLEEP GO TO SLEEP 😂😆🤣🤣
I'M DYING 😭
I like Mark Ruffalo but Edward Norton’s Hulk is what Hulk should look like
Imagine if Edwards hulk showed up
Hulk: no way home
I don’t like ruffalo
seriously? his CGI is dated AF
@@blackman5183 We don't give a fuck about that CGI, nowadays Hulk is weak and looks to rubber
The Hulk went from being incredible to non-credible
Nah he became Out-credible
@@Tabi-Kun op's joke is better
Or the mediocre-hulk
@@waffler-yz3gw he became "credible"
@@ghost_dog97 i'm sure you know this but credible means reliable and good so your joke is bad
Thank you for playing the clips instead of talking over them I love it
The boss when you fight VS when you get him as a playable character.
I genuinely prefer Norton’s version of hulk over Ruffalo. His relationship to Betty, the alternate personalities and his genuine trauma with it. While MCU hulk became a trendy joke. I’d have actually preferred Norton alongside Tony and seen him sass him
I know you’re an attractive person just bc of this comment
That would have actually been so much more cooler
If you wanna go old-school Eric Bana's hulk was great too. Nowadays the Hulk's a simp and his gf twerks with megan the stallion like tf happened to the world
Norton's Hulk was also MCU Hulk, just that with internal stuff the actor got replaced, but 2008 Hulk movie is canon in the MCU, in fact the post credit scene actually shows Downey Jr.'s Iron-Man gathering the Avengers
@@howardhavardramberg7160 Girlfriend? *Sweet Home Alabama*
I loved the car gauntlet, the old Hulk made. Also, the old one seems more intimidating, scarier and stronger. The screams are way better and as dumber as he may be from the new Hulk, the old one was more resourceful, and actually grew stronger the angrier he was.
a lot more violent too
I'm glad to see other people acknowledge that 2008 hulk was actually battle intelligent.
What I also don't really like with the new hulk is that they made him quite slow and less savage, like you could see the speed and agresion of the old movie fights, where as its lacking here, for example just after missing one swing he should instantly just throw new one, not try to aim his hits, just going at it, aditionally the hulk model was also better in the old movie but that's obvious as you had to make only 2 major models for entire movie not 30-100 or even more like in most avengers films but still.
I disagre with your point of view, Hulk didn’t got weaker from the 2008 movie at all and for a very good reason. His enemies are simply far more powerfull because outside of the Abomination (who did beat the living shit out of him for a while) all he wa sfacing were regular army men with conventional weapons. Even in the Avengers we rarely sees him struggle in a fight, and the only time he does was against the Hulkbuster which was design by both Tony and Bruce to fight the Hulk (and even here it didn’t go so well), against Thor (who is officially the only Avenger that can actually match him) and Fenris, the personal mount of Hella no less. His onyl two defeat came from Sutur (who is as strong as ODIN) and Thanos, who in the comic compeltly stomp regular Hulk.
It was in the 2003 hulk game as a weapon and that scene always give me nostalgia because if that
old hulk had a 3% bodyfat man, the cgi artists made a fucking masterpiece there
Hulk then: Bully
Hulk now: Bullied
the 2 things I noticed were:
1. the old hulk looked so much better. when the video cut to hulk vs thor 1 it was like suddenly looking at a statue of play-do.
2. old hulk's surprising resourcefulness. he looks like a genius by comparison to the new hulk who only really throws his weight around.
New Hulk is just a dancing Gorilla
The fights are embarrassing. Throws the slowest hulk punch of all time and then waits a second so the other person can get their punch in, it’s not anything like what the hulk is supposed to be
old hulk had aged cgi, new hulk looks realistic but I prefer old hulk's design, they could have easily just reused 08 hulk's model but retextured more realistically
@@scottwagner2317 I thought the same thing lol. Especially when he fights iron man
@@jacob8693 bro the difference is night and day, what you mean? Old hulk looks superior in everyway
It's almost like no one knew how good the Incredible Hulk movie really was. Glad to see people going back and enjoying it now.
Idk, I thought the hulk was better but I do like how banner feels more like a scientist now instead of just a douche
trendy fans are the worst
@JackOWot goes to show some people are idiots
The Incredible Hulk was always my favorite version. Trendy fan, I am not
@@urjnlegend eh not really. People sometimes just get to it late and don't see it until the trend happens. Don't be a gatekeeping loser.
Hulk then was just a beast
the new hulk is just a punching bag for the heroes. like “look how strong they are theyre beating the hulk easily”
Based off the statement of "creative differences" being made about Edward Norton leaving the MCU it's clear that his Hulk would have been WAY too serious for Marvel's plans to ultimately make the Hulk more comedic and less scary transitioning to something light hearted. I'm pretty sure Edward Norton expected for Hulk to remain scary, dark, and a wild card last resort to be used for destruction/winning fights. Also maybe they expected Edward Norton's chemistry with the rest of the team to not be Marvel's vision of comedy. I was definitely more of an Edward Norton Hulk fan myself. Less popular I was also a fan of his Bruce Banner too.
Probably had less to do with Norton's "creative vision" and more the Norton is a bit notorious for being very difficult to to work with
@@TheLoneRonin08 I think it's a bit of both. Part of why he's difficult to work with is because of his creative passion to input on the direction of the movie.
Mark Ruffalo is definitely more of a yes man and that makes it easier to do whatever with hulk without him complaining or wanting it to be different.
@@TheLoneRonin08 yeah he definitely is I won't deny this but I still believe his vision on Hulk just fit more or at least would have kept it from marvel gutting the hulk
@@Samuri5hit84 yes, thank you norton has serious inputs into the movies he is in which some directors definitely don't like to work with and would rather someone be more bendable
@@TheLoneRonin08 Just like Hulk should be notorious for being very difficult to work with... What a coincidence.
Just realized this but it's crazy how sluggish the new hulk is compared to the old hulk, new hulk is like a giant bouncy ball for anyone to bounce around
The CGI of muscle movement, the flexing, details. The fights are kinda interesting, Hulk and Abomination are using some skills they have. It was way more interesting back then
At 2:08 I was honestly shocked at how different and “plastic” the new one looked
Imagine Thanos trying those combos on the old HULK lol
Instant death for thanos
RIP INDEDD MAH FRIENDU
@@raygaming7552 HULK 2008 strongest feet fights and struggles with abomination a dude everyone in the first AVENGERS did feets waaay higher than 2008 HULK and abomination HULK literally destroys cars HULK in 2012 literally one punches a leviathan FAAAAAAR BEYOND 2008 HULK HULK FOR THE MOST PART DESTROOOYS HULK BUSTER BUT THE ARMER KEPT GETTING NEW PARTS HULK TAKES A PUNCH FROM AWAKEND THOR GETS UP HULK LITERALLY STAGERS SURTUR A BEING THAT PRIME ODIN FIGHTS 2008 HULK DOESN'T EVAN STAND A CHANCE AGAINST THOR 2012. LET ALONE THANOS WHO BEAT NANOTECH IRONMAN DRAX BLACKPANTHER THOR LITERALLY EVERYONE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO THREATENED HIM WAS ODIN LOL BEFORE HE STARTED HIS PLAN 2008 HULK STANDS NO CHANCE HES KNOWHERE NEER 2012 HULKS STRENTH HULK IN THOR RAGNOROK IS STRONGER MORE DURABLE AND SKILLED THAN 2012 HULK A HULK 2008 HULK DOESN'T EVAN COME CLOSE TOO AND HE GOT BEAT BY THANOS PEOPLE ARE DELUSIONAL 2008 HULKS STRONGEST FEETS ARE CANON FODDER HE COULD BARELY HIT AN GREATVALUE CAPTAIN AMERICA BARELY BEAT ABOMINATION GOT HURT BY WEAK WEAPONS AND WEAK ABOMINABLE SEVERALY MULTIPLE TIMES. 2012 HULK FIRST FIGHT WAS THOR THE GOD OF THUNDER ODINS SON SECOND FIGJT WAS HULK BUSTER A SUIT DESIGNED TO BEAT HIM AND HE ALMOST BEAT IT IF NOT FOR THE NEW REPAIRS 3RD FIGHT AWAKEND THOR AND THAN ALMOST SURTUR 4TH FIGHT THANOS A DUDE THAT HAS TO BE STOPED BY LITERALLY EVERYONE AVENGERS HULK LITERALLY FIGHTS PEOPLE FAR BEYOND HIS LEVEL AND STILL HANGS IN THERE JUST THE LAVATHAN FEET SITS DOWN 2008 HULK WHO PLAYS WITH CARS AND ABOMINATION.
@@BESTMOAD broken caps lock bud?
@@BESTMOAD do you get girls?
Norton’s Hulk is severely underrated and I hate how the MCU has turned him into a joke.
MCU has turned basically everything into a joke now.
@@Peter-rt3fl that's mcu style 😅
@@user-ij7um1ev9w I'd bet Disney is responsible for this.. it's been going downhill - plot, acting, CGI - since Disney owns marvel
Bro the old hulk was scarier and stronger, I bet a 5 year old could beat up the MCU mark ruffalo hulk
Def not severely underrated, especially according to this comment section, i have never in my life heard anyone say they like mcu’s hulk better than 2008 and i have a lot of marvel friends lol, everyone loved that movie but it’s definitely not overrated either
What an amazing and totally unbiased edit.
Of course, completely 100% unbiased :]
The amount of detail in his body when he moves is just amazing
Man was throwing humvees around like hot wheels. Now he can barely stop a damn jeep in She Hulk. I refuse to believe this is the same Hulk.
well yeah. it isn't the same hulk ya dingus
@@dinkledord7026 It is the same Hulk. Different actors, but this movie is part of the MCU.
@@enterthekyuubi I think different hulk as in its banner and hulk combo vs just hulk
Definiently a different hulk,
In the first movie he is capable to launch a Tank into the stratosphere
and now let alone launching a tank, he turned into a literal punching bag for the villains
@@fridaynuggies4191 mainly for his own teammates and his "cousin"
never realized how the older Hulk was so good at using his environment as improvised weapons and such so well
That was my favourite part watching it back then, the way Hulk would batter people with knuckle dusters made of cars was hilarious
He really was a scrambling savage. Anything in arm reach that wasn't destroyed was getting swung. Those last clips is when he start thinking too much... turned into a simp
There's something really satisfying about the way Norton Hulk's face grimaces and contorts in pure, unadulterated rage. The animators weren't afraid to REALLY push the stretch of his mouth and the widening of his eyes. And I noticed the camera angles during the fight scenes got up nice and close to see those exaggerated details. The problem with Ruffalo's Hulk is that his face is caught in a constant squint. His jaw doesn't have that same clench that Norton's has, where it looks like it'd practically break his teeth if he was gritting his jaw any tighter.
Also, everyone is right, while the Ruffalo Hulk was animated in a time where the technology allows for greater visuals, the Norton Hulk still seems to have more detail in the muscle animations. The twitches, spasms, flexing... It's all there and try as hard as I might, I can't see much of that in the newer Hulk.
The Norton hulk has a borderline sick/psychotic side to him that makes him terrifying! Like he wants to see your head pop kinda vibe.
Makes for a much better hulk in my opinion.
I also like the screams and design/proportions more.
Bro the cgi in 2008 hulk aged so well. Looks better than majority of the cgi in newer marvel shows/movies
Because they took their time with this film and the creators were unsure if MCU would make it as far as it did today
Even CW has better CGI than the latest Marvel shows. Employees are overworking because they need to produce lots of shows in a really tight schedule
Bro looks plastic
In the behind the scenes for this movie they actually talked about wanting to be as comic accurate as possible but also have originality there as the core of the movie.
That is what films and TV about major franchises should be like, respect the source material yet do something original with the character
Then there’s she hulk… which practically butchered her character entirely
@@partialartist i mean the movie was still boring as hell
For me its 2003 Hulk. I had a special edition that came with a 2nd disk and explained all his feats from being able to dodge missles in the desert to the instant healing factor when he was blown up outside his home. He actually grows larger by anger and is capable of triggering Gamma explosions which he kinda did by blind rage at the end with the combination of his dads energy being in there.
Having the time on his own to lay off in the desert knowing Ross was just on his ass and still couldnt rest that movie was just a journey for me I enjoy watching till this day.
Now we got She Hulk twerking blowing up the internet
2003 honestly a great origin story, I just didn't like how green he was but honestly it was really nice to see him run wild like that.
“Now”hulk should be better, I mean he can deal with an infinity gauntlet snap
@@georgetrahan1198 that’s nothing compared to what 2003 Hulk could’ve done.
@@darkvaden1450 he’s Hulk - he’s supposed to be green - not light green
I grew up on 2003 Hulk but I gotta admit that after some years I didn't really like this comic-like montage because it made this film a bit chaotic. Also the design of Hulk is not so great after watching Norton's version. One thing I like though in the Bana's version is that he was growing, while getting angrier. It made him more menacing.
Love that the CGI was less realistic, yet the portrayal of Hulk was 100 times better than the new "casual" acting Hulk. Shit makes 0 sense nowadays.
The scene when hulk rips the bone out his arm and stabs him with it most bad ass marvel moment ever we need more of that!!!!!
The strongest Avenger, and the one that is able to give every being in the universe a decent fight has been reduced to a joke
well... disney. any hulk fight has to be physical and extremly agressive. broken bones and blood. not the shit we are used to see nowadays
@@h7oda793 not Thor, Disney. In the comics, Thor doesn't even come close to being the strongest avenger. Hulk is and always be the strongest avenger, he is a force that no one dares take lightly.
@@QuietBob I DONT WANNA HEAR THAT BULLSHIT DISNEY EXCUSE
It’s pretty wild, I never even realized just how often Hulk gets manhandled in every fight in the MCU until I saw the back to back cuts here.
The worst part is, they could easily soft reboot hulk with the she-hulk series; have banner start losing control again, and bring back the madmannered behemoth we all know and love.
@@TheyCallMe_TC noone cares what you dont wanna
The ability to grow strength when getting hurt and becoming more angry was one of the most important an intrigueing traits of the Hulk. That made him potentially invincible, so in the comics he hardly could find a match.
The MCU Hulk is a nerfed version, child-friendly with limited power. Like one of those kit-cars with VW Beetle engines.
Originally he was pure rage, put in the shape of a giant green human, an elemental force, fighting everthing, except that one person. Where is this clean concept now? Where is the tragic aspect of this very doubtful, unpredictable hero? He is incredibly strong but it makes him lonesome.
Yawn-Hulk is making friends with the avengers. Great.
MCU has nerfed many characters though, like Vision or Iron Man being significantly weaker. And then there's captain Marvel who got buffed into a discount superman lol.
@@Grintock Women power xD Fcking sjw's get into anything to make it suck, i dont watch marvel anymore.
most recent HULK i call "Bitch hulk".
Think you mean "elemental"
@@Grintock discount superman🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching the 2008 version of Hulk as a kid and thinking how badass he was and the carnage in the film. He was an actual beast.
I don't have any particular feelings, at all, for the disney MCU hulk. He's just....there. A punching bag really
2 year ago? Know we need a remaster of this video
The 2008 film was so underrated. It deserves a lot more credit and love than it gets. It had a lot of heart and feels very distinct from most MCU films both tone and plot-wise.
I feel like they left him weak so that he couldn’t just crush everyone but there’s so many problems that can’t be solved by brute strength, so why not make him the strongest avenger? He only fights 2 other avengers, separately, and he struggles both times. It should take *The Avengers* to beat him. Like all of them working together, not just tony or thor alone.
Thor is understandable, as he is a tank just like him, strong enough to struggle with Thanos, but Tony doesn't seem right.
I mean banner did help make it and ot is the Hulkbuster, Tony wouldn't even had won if Hulk didn't get distracted.
@@karana2833 Right, tony did so much to him and basically just pissed him off. that cheap shot when hulk was calming down was just that a cheap shot.
Swear, MCU Hulk spent more time fighting the Avengers than any major enemy. Now Hulk's own character is nothing in the series, it's just Mark Ruffalo playing Mark Ruffalo in Hulk's skin because producers think he's funny.
In one of the Avengers cartoons movie. Yes it took the whole Avengers to stop the Hulk..
The Russo Brothers even stated in an interview how they don't really care for Hulk and don't know how to write him. They just simply acknowledged that they "nerfed" him so😭😭😭😭😭😭
As much as i like the old Hulk, old Abomination seems more badass, the scene where he slammed a goddamn missile onto his own face really made him the worthy opponent for Hulk
The Hulk Thanos fight was impactful and a great setup to show Thanos' strength.
But it would have been even more so if they would have given Hulk more wins than embarrassing losses in all the films prior.
They had to make him weaker looking throughout many movies for Thanos to be able to face him. I actually found that fight to be the most disappointing fight by far. I really wanted to see hulk beat the crap out of Thanos..
bruh thanos without infinity stones should NOT be able to stand up against hulk.
edit, ok, thanos is more trained, faster, and possibly stronger, but hulk is easily more durable. He should not get knocked down by a few punches of similar strength, because thor (who rivals hulk pretty evenly in strength) used a weapon to hit hulk full strength in the head, and he just gets back up. Im pretty sure in the comics he gets eaten to the bone by insects but regenerates.
@@kakyoin5862 Why not? Thor has beaten the hell out of hulk, Hulk buster Iron man beat the hell out of Hulk why shouldn't Thanos when he's stronger then the previous 2?
@@vlitragaia5969 yea thats in the movies to be more accurate to the real character hulk easily washing all those guys hes just not the unstoppable force hes supposed to be and it really bc disney doesnt own full rights of the hulk so they do him no justice in the movies
@@AxylusMaximus same lol (I know thanos is stronger)
It's an embarrassment how they've handled the strongest avenger. In the infinity comic Thanos never fought the hulk because he literally avoided him because his anger and strength was a legitimate huge threat to him and look how they did my boy 😔
Fr... If Thanos fought with hulk, the hulk would never stop... He would keep getting stronger till he reaches the level that can beat the shit out of the enemy
Yeah exactly, their ridiculous decisions & stupidity infuriates me. The Hulk would eventually be strong enough to even beat Superman, but these goofy & backwards writers reckon Thanos can down hulk with a few punches & Superman with 1 punch 🤦♂️ absolutely no chance 🤣 MCU needs a bunch of new writers coz the ones they've got atm couldn't be any less clueless.
She-Hulk, African Mexican Spiderman & Ms.Marvel for example
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@@Danksy210 I completely agree. Those characters barely have any fans and not even thrilling. They kicked out all the characters with good character development and replaced them with other characters just because they are women/blacks/asian/indian
@@MM-hh If only they had the internet & saw how much of a disaster the all female Ghostbusters turned out to be 😂 I think it's a mixture of laziness, too focused on quick cash grabs & lack of braincells to create anything unique & successful. They need to go back & stick to the only thing they're good at...flipping burgers at Maccy D's
@@Danksy210 Lmao
disney just keeps nerfing the crap out of these brutal characters
The 2008 is the one we need the one we have now is absolute dog shit the 2008 one is my favorite because you can hear anger in him and the absolute rage and the angrier he gets the stronger he gets this Hulk is the one we needed in the MCU
Hulk is literally meant to be one of the strongest creatures in the universe. His size and power LITERALLY scaled with his rage, which is meant to have infinite capacity. Essentially getting angrier everytime his opponent beats him down. The more he gets hurt the more unstoppable he's meant to be, which is why only woman seem to be able to appease him in hulk mode lol. Hulk getting knocked out by a single strong punch is the most bullshit thing iv ever seen they turned this absolute behomoth of a creation into a gag
Excellent description of what he is and should be. Very sad I've never seen him become building size.. or uproot a mountain.
@@VengefulPolititron read the comics
@@LOLzum101 just not the modern ones
@@LOLzum101 thanks for suggestion. I'm just too much of a "casual" to chase that lead. but thanks.
@@VengefulPolititron OK go type in CZcams "hulks coolest moments" or "hulk biggest feats of strength" or "coolest hulk comic moments" and save yourself time that way
love this clip 1:24 for anyone who remembers the old hulk game and what he does to vehicles. I just get a glimpse down memory lane when using cars as boxing gloves and surfing on a buss or just randomly destroying building or picking up tanks or cows just to throw them, good times.
In the 2003 Hulk he was chuck M1 Abrams tanks, though the CGI is terribly dated.
I had that game and loved that move. Also, picking up pieces of asphalt on the street. Always thought it looked badass to be able to crunch yyour fiingers on the street and pull out a block of asphalt or concrete to beat someone with it.
@@effervescentrelief i remember seeing that and i thought it was neat that it took a decent bit effort on hulk's end to chuck an Abrams tank considering Abrams tanks on average weigh 67 tons. it showed that the animators put in the proper work.
Or lego marvel super heroes
I loved that game! Definitely reminded me of that too. I also remember grabbing the inflatable gorilla I think it was and floating around the city 😂
The CGI on the new hulk makes him just a normal guy, but bigger and green. The original made him a pure rage beast. Look how they've massacred my baby.
RiP one of the mightiest Avengers. He's always deserved better.
I understand how Banner learns control overtime, but there is something very entertaining about seeing an animalistic version of Hulk, with the raw guttural screams, the intense neck muscles, the eyes. Makes it seems a lot more real/dramatic
I never understood why in movies rule of "learning control" is to be pacifist version of yourself. It's the opposite actually. You know how to control your anger and can use it in controlled ways without going apeshit. Hulk clearly isn't like that to begin with and show a lot of creativity in fighting. THE Old one.
It's like this old saying "Fear the rage of a calm person"
Even with total control over the Hulk, comic Bruce has never acted like the selfie-taking, dabbing, bad-joke cracking goofball comic relief he was reduced to in Endgame. Bruce Banner with full control over the Hulk is *scarier* than Savage Hulk, a concept the MCU doesn't understand
Edward Norton Hulk had all kinds of neat character development; he spent years trying to control the Hulk in his body. The breathing techniques and the heart rate monitor and all that made it seems more plausible.
Let's not forget how he got overpowered and hurled by a jeep that sent him flying into a pile of boulders in she hulk smh...
I wanna Hulk 2008 again please. MCU messed up everything
“Yeah I was a totally different person back than, literally”
- Smart Hulk: August 24th, 2022
He’s completely ruined on my birthday 😩😩😩
The Incredible Hulk was a great movie, I have no idea why people don't like it. I want that Hulk to come back
This was because universal was in charge of the first one. They made the plot much more aligned, rather than random bits and pieces you have to pick up on, in order to understand what's going on.
Hulk is like that one op hero that slowly getting nerfed but the player chose to pick it anyway in a advance draft match
Also feels like Power creep. The new heroes getting stronger and stronger leaving him behind
The new Hulk might as well be shopping for tampons and doing Tai chi
He's the grappler that keeps getting nerfed
The latest patch ruined his build. Gets beaten by a Jeep now. Literally unplayable
Well I think it shows growth , I believe the makers are trying to show that that anger destroys everything and you have to control it, it's nice rather than uuuurrrhhh aaarhhhhh....
A lot of people dont like 2008 hulk but I thought it was pretty good, good military fight, monster fight, classic idiots making banner angry and hulking out, throwing boulders at the sky when its thundering as he doesn't understand. I'm sure more people have come to like this one over time after the down fall of the ruffle hulk... which did start out decent.
" A lot of people"?
Bruh, literally almost everybody like 2008 hulk more than now hulk,.
watchu talkin about?
@@markcollado1521 but when it first came out people hated on the movie
2008 hulk is more tragic as well. There's a deleted opening scene showing banner tries to shoot himself but all he did is make hulk angry. And throughout the movie, we get to see Banner constantly have to calm himself
And having the leader
@@markcollado1521 perhaps I should rephrase that as "didn't used to like". When it came out and even during the early MCU past avengers people were always praising ruffle hulk as better. Funny how that has all changed now. Universal should branch off with its own ed Norton hulk movies, would give marvel a get out option to ditch their hulk and bring in a different timeline hulk.
Hul was so Giga Chad that they had to nerf him🥶😭
Will always be the best hulk,as a kid i absolutely loved the old one,id say the only intimidating hulk we have now is the scarlet witch infused hulk,yeah hes kind of a destructive monster and not really intimidating but its the best we got honestly lol
I dont think many people know this, but Edward Norton wanted his hulk to look more like a body builder, not just a mass of rage. He actually had quite a few disputes with the director and writing team on how the hulk should look and act. Two reasons Norton didnt sign one for the MCU are 1. He didnt want to be tied to a character he had no control over, and 2. He never wants to be defined by a singular persona. The latter lets him put all he has into each performance without needing to conform to what the audience thinks he should be.
They fired him, he didn’t “decide” not to sign on.
Norton is too good for the MCU anyway. Would've been a shame to see his talent go to waste.
@Flyfromthejar which actors?
@Flyfromthejar the fuck you talking about. Like, I get it, MCU is not the highest form of cinema but do not ignore the fact that Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Angelina Jolie, Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, Don Cheadle and so on are amazing actors that have even won Golden Globes, Oscars, etc. They are not tied to the roles, they are not wasted because they take part in a never ending series of movies. They very much take part in movies from all genres, outside of the MCU. The fact that you don't know them, or can't name any of it might be because you just don't care about them.
The only ones that I can say kinda fit into your description is maybe Chris Hemsworth, who I feel is trapped by being typecast in every rol he's in lately (fun, handsome, kind gooft big muscle guy).
The rest? Nah, they act in the MCU to make millions, but they are not trapped in no way by doing it, and they make great movies outside of it.
Small correction, but the design of Edward Norton’s Hulk was based more on an athletic physique, like an NFL linebacker, more than a body builder. They said they didn’t want a pure bodybuilder look.
Norton's Hulk should have been in the Avengers as he was certainly the most intimidating. When I saw the Avengers and saw Ruffalo's Hulk, I died inside.
Me too bro me2:(
Not alone on that, what vex me is that when agent whats his name came to stark tower in the avengers movie it showed the clip of hulk pelting the hum-v into the scrap metal that was located in the college field in the 2008 movie and stark and pepper was watching all of the marvel characters in action but then we got ruffalo...
I believe the great attention to detail in Norton's Hulk was simply because it was a standalone movie and all the money went to Hulk's CGI. But Ruffalo's Hulk has always starred in a team movie(i.e. Avengers series). They had to tone down a lot of Hulks CGI simply because there were literally so many characters to put their money on.
@@SoumyadeepBasu-qy3qk and also because they starzed using cg for everything including backgrounds in a fucking pub
The only reason Norton wasn’t in the avengers is because he was an asshole during the filming of the Incredible Hulk.
I can never get over the punch from Hulk Buster that spun him full 360 after he crashed on the staircase
Love the detail of the muscle striations on old hulk
They should kept 2008 design with his personality
2008 hulk design and Mark Ruffalo should have been better 'til disney ruined it. I'd still prefer Paramount's design if they didn't left.. sad....
@@Master_of_Fist Ruffalo was miscast. Hell no. He was part of the problem. This Hulk with Norton
Kinda agree like i wish they updated it a bit but kept it still in tact. And that the hulk was more best then a fucking child and through the movies THEN he's like there stabel
They should have kept Ed Norton, he’s a far better actor and he wouldn’t spoil every movie he’s featured in.
I cringe at the people blaming Disney for ruining characters. Disney gives full creative control to Marvel and Marvel Studios. Saying “Disney ruined the Hulk” is a complete misinformed statement.
To be fair, Thor almost always wins against hulk in the comics and the Hulkbuster is specifically made to combat the hulk (plus tony is smarter and more strategic than either) but I agree, 2008 hulk is better, especially compared to the latest version of hulk…
Hulkbuster almost never stops hulk only gets him a little tired.
@@elchadayjose487 shut up
Is it like objective like win? like he only just needs him to fling him away to an incredible distance or throw him into a portal / blackhole / another dimension?
I've also seen characters stronger than Thor consistently been defeat by Hulk.
Depends on the writer, Hulk is either OP or dumb and weak. The pattern I'm seeing is they often want the less crazy looking and angelic looking like Thor to win.
but have you seen the latest version of the hulk?
Well Mark Ruffalo is a liberal lunatic who is already ranting about woman-haters and racists because she-hulk is an utter flop because it is complete garbage.
He kinda deserves to have the worst portrayal of hulk in recent memory. I just hope they replace him with someone more deserving and stops making hulk a complete push-over.