If you had taken a moment to look at the entire length of the clip, he went on to show examples going from Studer 2 track mixes to vinyl, the also explained the process of live recording to vinyl. Sadly most people don't record or mix to tape any more so most are working from digital mixes. However I am guessing you could also go from top of the line res digital mixes as well. I master everything I do with Ron he is a dream and has amazing ears, and decades of experience in multiple genres and formats. I have recorded to 2 inch, and mixed to all sorts of formats before mastering. Using the underground chambers of Capitol is priceless. I will undoubtedly cut my vinyl master with Ron. He's gold. In short, Mr Davis, you are only showing that you are arrogant and impatient to not listen to the rest of the piece or even look up his credentials . Where do you mix and master your products? on pro-tools Mbox?
Thank you for such a great, informative tour. I have quite a few capitol LP's from the 80's with "Wally" inscribed in the dead wax area, including The Beatles, (purple label) which sound absolutely fantastic.
God damn those waveforms look awful. And why would you cut vinyl from a CD? Completely pointless! At least cut it from a higher res digital file, or analog tape!
Really nice to see the how it all works. Looks like he has a great job! The compression on those waveforms is shocking! Look up the CZcams video for The Loudness War. How would he translate those waveforms to vinyl. You'd think the compression would make the needle jump off the record.
Sounds like this VMS-70 was the 'G' lathe that went online in the mid-1970's. Capitol had a VMS-66 since about 1969 that was designated 'F'. Would've loved to see old-style Scully lathes in operation.
In the UK In the 70's they would write out the beginning of a Joke. Then You would have to Buy the Next one In the Line of Cat Numbers to get the Punchline.
You guys are morons! This is a business.... if a client ( perhaps your neighbor's band) only has a CD to be vinyl mastered from. This studio is going to make the master from what is given.
@@christopherrippel2463 we don't want "red book" vinyl, the resolution is not good enough for the reason most of us are in this hobby! We buy Lps because they can capture hi resolution sound from tape or digital! If I want "red book" resolution, I'd buy a Goddamn CD! Just look how awful those waveforms are!
Sad but true sgtpepper1138. I'm in my 40's and remember them pushing the limits even in the 70's. Get a 45 of Disco Duck. It practically jumps off of the turntable! Yeah, sound quality has definitely taken a back seat these days :-(
Good point. Would I be wrong in saying always buy analog that was originally made in analog? Like an original digital recording will sound better in digital than on vinyl? I was also thinking analog mono vs stereo (eg Beatles Mono Box set)
This is like an advert on why you shouldnt buy an lp mastered at Capitol. Use a CD as source for LP sound. Its people like you who have completely screwed up vinyl pressings and remasters in this present time.The whole benefit of vinyl is destroyed in one fell swoop by sticking low quality source onto high quality medium. You still only get cd quality sound but with crackle too. Dont tell me but you probably use mp3 if the cd's not available. Do us all a favour and get a new job!
Mark Davis I agree; Yes it is a shame that vinyl could be made from a CD as the master. However to his credit, he specifically says something to the effect of "when a client sends us a CD that they want cut to vinyl...". It sounds as though it is a service they offer, and perhaps it is the client that needs to care more about the quality of the original source material. He also went on to show the analog tape equipment to describe the process when they use tape. Also, he spoke excitedly about direct to disk, in a way that made me think he wished artists would do this more often today. I got the sense that this sound engineer really cares about quality sound, but perhaps some clients do not understand how to make it the best? In either way, I suspect vinyl should really only be sourced from tapes or at a bare minimum, high definition digital files (anything above CD quality, but get the sample rate as high as possible). CD should only be used if nothing else is available, but why would nothing else be available? Surely there is a tape or a high-res file from most recordings!
Mark Davis actually vinyl is lower quality than CD , because CD dynamic range is 96db while LP is only 60db dynamic range! you can clearly hear him say that they have to pretty much "downmix" when a CD is used for vinyl cutting, because the CD resolution is so high! I don't know where you people get your information! but things seem to be backwards these days!
stereo king. I don't think you understand very much about vinyl. If it was all about dynamic range, cd wins . There is more to audiophile vinyl. Which one has better frequency response? That'd be the vinyl lp (that wasn't mastered from cd). When you own the right gear i.e turntable/arm/cartridge with a consumable diamond that more than likely costs an arm and a leg (unlike most cd players), you can get hd sound from your vinyl instead of waiting for hd digital equivalents to be made available because the cd is lacking. You just need a bit more experience (and money) to be able to make a judgement. Go forth and learn!
Wait, this guys name is "McMaster" and his job is to cut "masters"? Sounds like a fusion McDonald's restaurants and record pressing..... Have a Big Mac while you wait for your band's music to be pressed onto vinyl.
All the old masters from Berry (Chess), Domino (Imperial), and many other classic artists and labels are now owned by Universal Music...including all Capitol Records masters-even the Motown masters are held by the Capitol division of Universal.
If you had taken a moment to look at the entire length of the clip, he went on to show examples going from Studer 2 track mixes to vinyl, the also explained the process of live recording to vinyl. Sadly most people don't record or mix to tape any more so most are working from digital mixes. However I am guessing you could also go from top of the line res digital mixes as well. I master everything I do with Ron he is a dream and has amazing ears, and decades of experience in multiple genres and formats. I have recorded to 2 inch, and mixed to all sorts of formats before mastering. Using the underground chambers of Capitol is priceless. I will undoubtedly cut my vinyl master with Ron. He's gold. In short, Mr Davis, you are only showing that you are arrogant and impatient to not listen to the rest of the piece or even look up his credentials . Where do you mix and master your products? on pro-tools Mbox?
Ron McMaster - the coolest name for a mastering engineer EVER!
Thank you for such a great, informative tour. I have quite a few capitol LP's from the 80's with "Wally" inscribed in the dead wax area, including The Beatles, (purple label) which sound absolutely fantastic.
To me, this video is wonderful, is also one lesson about history of audio and music!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!
Very, very good this video!!!!!
Great info. I don't have any albums mastered by Ron, but I found the video interesting as I enjoy history.
Ummm a vinyl copy from a cd, ain't gonna do anyone any favours! Yaay
God damn those waveforms look awful. And why would you cut vinyl from a CD? Completely pointless! At least cut it from a higher res digital file, or analog tape!
Like I said, a medium resolution format cut to a hi resolution format is never a good idea!
Thanksssssss...This is very interesting Insight ! :)
Really nice to see the how it all works. Looks like he has a great job! The compression on those waveforms is shocking! Look up the CZcams video for The Loudness War. How would he translate those waveforms to vinyl. You'd think the compression would make the needle jump off the record.
Sounds like this VMS-70 was the 'G' lathe that went online in the mid-1970's. Capitol had a VMS-66 since about 1969 that was designated 'F'. Would've loved to see old-style Scully lathes in operation.
In the UK In the 70's they would write out the beginning of a Joke. Then You would have to Buy the Next one In the Line of Cat Numbers to get the Punchline.
Vinyl from CD? I don't think so! Tape or hi resolution files! NOT 44.1K / 16BIT! NOOOOO!!!
You guys are morons! This is a business.... if a client ( perhaps your neighbor's band) only has a CD to be vinyl mastered from. This studio is going to make the master from what is given.
@@christopherrippel2463 we don't want "red book" vinyl, the resolution is not good enough for the reason most of us are in this hobby! We buy Lps because they can capture hi resolution sound from tape or digital! If I want "red book" resolution, I'd buy a Goddamn CD! Just look how awful those waveforms are!
why did you pillar a 16:9 video? way to upload, emiamericarecords
Sad but true sgtpepper1138. I'm in my 40's and remember them pushing the limits even in the 70's. Get a 45 of Disco Duck. It practically jumps off of the turntable! Yeah, sound quality has definitely taken a back seat these days :-(
Hardlimited CD to vinyl, that sucks big time.
Good point. Would I be wrong in saying always buy analog that was originally made in analog? Like an original digital recording will sound better in digital than on vinyl? I was also thinking analog mono vs stereo (eg Beatles Mono Box set)
What happens before it goes to a plant ...he said eventually will got to the plant ?
This is like an advert on why you shouldnt buy an lp mastered at Capitol.
Use a CD as source for LP sound. Its people like you who have completely screwed up vinyl pressings and remasters in this present time.The whole benefit of vinyl is destroyed in one fell swoop by sticking low quality source onto high quality medium. You still only get cd quality sound but with crackle too. Dont tell me but you probably use mp3 if the cd's not available. Do us all a favour and get a new job!
Mark Davis I agree; Yes it is a shame that vinyl could be made from a CD as the master. However to his credit, he specifically says something to the effect of "when a client sends us a CD that they want cut to vinyl...". It sounds as though it is a service they offer, and perhaps it is the client that needs to care more about the quality of the original source material.
He also went on to show the analog tape equipment to describe the process when they use tape. Also, he spoke excitedly about direct to disk, in a way that made me think he wished artists would do this more often today. I got the sense that this sound engineer really cares about quality sound, but perhaps some clients do not understand how to make it the best?
In either way, I suspect vinyl should really only be sourced from tapes or at a bare minimum, high definition digital files (anything above CD quality, but get the sample rate as high as possible). CD should only be used if nothing else is available, but why would nothing else be available? Surely there is a tape or a high-res file from most recordings!
Maybe the source should be printed on the lp cover, then there'd be no way of conning people. Who'd bother buying an lp marked 'from cd master'?
Mark Davis actually vinyl is lower quality than CD , because CD dynamic range is 96db while LP is only 60db dynamic range! you can clearly hear him say that they have to pretty much "downmix" when a CD is used for vinyl cutting, because the CD resolution is so high! I don't know where you people get your information! but things seem to be backwards these days!
stereo king.
I don't think you understand very much about vinyl. If it was all about dynamic range, cd wins . There is more to audiophile vinyl.
Which one has better frequency response? That'd be the vinyl lp (that wasn't mastered from cd).
When you own the right gear i.e turntable/arm/cartridge with a consumable diamond that more than likely costs an arm and a leg (unlike most cd players), you can get hd sound from your vinyl instead of waiting for hd digital equivalents to be made available because the cd is lacking.
You just need a bit more experience (and money) to be able to make a judgement. Go forth and learn!
Wait, this guys name is "McMaster" and his job is to cut "masters"? Sounds like a fusion McDonald's restaurants and record pressing..... Have a Big Mac while you wait for your band's music to be pressed onto vinyl.
coool
Ummm what's Fats Domino & Chuck Berry gotta do with Capitol? Very inneresting though, bestest label right kids!!!
All the old masters from Berry (Chess), Domino (Imperial), and many other classic artists and labels are now owned by Universal Music...including all Capitol Records masters-even the Motown masters are held by the Capitol division of Universal.
@guitaristsd Oh man, isn't it horrible. it's GOTTA STOP, but most young people (i'm only 30) wouldn't know good sound if it bit them.
Yes, CD'S have to stop! We need high resolution formats like Lps
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