Waffen SS - Bolt Action Starter Army Review
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The box is wrong- this isn't a 1500 point starter, its a 2000 point power gamer's starer set , you take one platoon with a 1st LT(generic, not the ss version, its just a fluff upgrade that costs points)+2 men with assault rifles, 3x5 man assault rifle fanatic veteran squads with 4 panzerfausts, and the tiger vet with an mmg, the second platoon has a 2nd lt + 2 and 3 5 man fanatic squads with the nco armed with an assault rife and 2 LMGs in each squad, mortar, pak and mmg team, and the stug puts it at 1994 points for 13 orders...
All German players, at some point in your BA career, have got to buy a Tiger. Yes it’s a lot of points, and you probably won’t win a game with it, but it’s so iconic. Certainly on my wish list. So maybe the SS does have a bonus to it.
Just wanted to say thanks for making these videos. I've played my first few games and I've just finished painting my first brit inf section. It's a shame that Bolt Action doesnt have the presence that 40k does considering how fun it is but it's great to see that you're making much needed BA content!
Dude. I have played 4 games of bolt action now and it’s amazing. I am really happy you have BA content. I’ve been following your channel for 3 plus years I think. Way back when I had a gaurd army. Always appreciate your content.
Nice looking box.. i have ended up with most of the contents of this by chance sadly rather than getting a discount. Honestly with regard to anyone having problems with playing a notorious faction from history... its a historical wargame. Not a thing the perpetually offended should be anywhere near. If we were to go down that very silly route wed have to basically delete the soviets and the japanese from the game in addition to the SS lol
I'd been considering getting into this system, and this kit has two of my favorite tanks! And as I already planned to go Germany due to them having my favorite weapons and armored vehicle design of the time period, this set is looking quite tempting.
I like realism and correct historical representation of armies. Just like I say "cool your jets" to people that have a problem with board games and video games that have Nazi representation and insignias I would say the same thing about miniature games. It's just a simulation of war. No one is supporting the ideology (at least I hope not). Get over it. No one has a problem playing the Soviets and I would argue their ideology was just as evil as the Nazis.
Big Tru tru
Agreed. And even if someone wanted to support an ideology and live out that fantasy in a non-destructive way then why not?
Better sit at a table rolling dice than lashing out at society. Censorship is pretty silly when you look at it like that.
The real hilarious part is the guys who started wargaming as a hobby, including ww2, actually fought against the real nazis in ww2, and they understood this is a game. But today you get randos all crying about playing germany in a ww2 game means you're a nazi or something. Actually pathetic.
@@Nobleshieldactually no, the prussians started it in the 1700s!
After the franco prussian war, it spread arround like wildfire thru europe
great channel. As far as how do I feel about playing SS. Well to put it simply, "Good sir this is a game. None of us have killed anyone no matter how well we roll." Each army and type of units has a different play style. wait there it is an again "Play". This is a game we shouldn't even bet having this conversation.... IMO
I used a late SS army (not the starter set) and like it as it has lots of options. (I also have Soviet and Commandos)
this is by far the best starter set. So many different combinations can be done for 1500 points. Its actually around 2k of points.
Gives you enough ARs and all other upgrades bits :)
Love this starter army and have them actually. If you play Germans having a tiger in your army is a must. It’s just too iconic. As well if you have any issues playing as a waffen ss army just remember someone has to be the bad guy and someone has to be the worst guy. Playin an army isn’t an endorsement of their history. Some just have to play evil, like me.
It is interesting to note the DAK force includes the Mk III but with a short barrelled 7.5 cm gun. This points to a late desert force as mid 1942 was about the time they started the role switch between the MkIII and MkIV in terms of fire support and direct assault. Does the Mk III have a variation in weapons such as the long barrelled 5cm gun? It does seem to be be the up armoured version.
The Tiger made me get this starter box. Just sealed the deal for me.
Could you do a video on Hungary. I have a Hungarian paratrooper army.
Theres also 3 Panzerfausts on the Winter Grenadier sprues, 1 loose, 1 left hand bundle and 1 in 2 hands
Thank you so much for this one!
Seems like a cool box
Great vid very useful keep up the good work
Me finna getting this boxset and using it to make a Crossfire SS army
So it's a toss up between the SS box and the Grenider box.
Both are great starter sets tbh. But I also really like the fallshamjager starter set too :)
@@MordianGlory ok, well I already purchased a half track and panther tank. Along with a bunch of zombies. Which starter set do you feel would help me round that out and be playable?
@@truckingjoe7715 zombies? óÔ
@@thecavalrygeneral3453 yes, zombies. Konflict '47 which is an expansion for bolt action. One of the special units the Germans get are zombies.
@@truckingjoe7715 ahh I did not know Konflict 47 was a Bolt Action "Bolt On" as it were... I fkn love the konflikt 47 'mechs I've seen around teh interwebz... damn ya'll might have sold me on this Bolt Action thing after all lol
I'm just a Guy who likes to watch this in the Mid of Winter........
Спасибо большое за обзор, хочу вот влиться в этот варгейм, но купив этот набор какой стартовый набор англичан или сша подойдет ,чтоб столкнуться в битве ? Спасибо большое у вас приятный голос 😊
So you need to purchase an officer separately? What set does it come in?
You can make an officer from the plastic infantry :)
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Man.. if you're not already on a list, are you truly living?
I bought this box once, but then decided to sell it again in favour of more 40k.
Ew
You act like Band of Brothers was SO long ago. It was only a couple years back and the Grenadier box is still excellent.
I thought it was the bolt action 1st edition starter set?
@@MordianGlory just looked at my remaining box. 2016 and I think it came out when 2nd ed came out.
@@redcorsair14yeah, it was after the release of 2nd edition
I’ll got a Waffen SS army and they very good love the models and sometimes it nice not play common German army and playing as elite with a tiger tank and bunch of fanatics who want to slap everyone in melee lol 😂
Of course, it had to be a Tiger (roll eyes), not the much more prevalent PzKpfw IV.
Just to let you know the box comes with 36 models, the army build recommends you use 33 but you get some spares.
Also the grenadier box is pretty new (2016).
I also think its worth making a mention when reviewing the SS kit that it is slightly problematic in the hobby community. 99% of the time its not an issue but just be aware that some players struggle playing against the SS due to the historical connotations, being aware of this and if using the army being sensitive to it never hurts. A mindset that laments winning and celebrate losing can go a long way.
Obviously atrocities where across the board, but the SS stick out for obvious reasons and some people can struggle to see the game over the history. At the end of the day we all just want to push little toy soldiers around a board.
Everything they warned of has come to pass.
Niet Komrade, zees Invaders are not good. You need real Stronk warriors, like Russian mens, yes? Soviets have much Stronker mens and Tenk made of Stalinium! For the Motherland!!!!
Yes I get it, so long ago. But my son and I just bought starter kits and we are looking for clues. But watching this video I appreciated the commentary right up until you compared a late war SS (read scum) starter kit with the Blitzkrieg kit. Of course the SS kit looks better on the face of it. But you can't use that as an early war fighting force because the vehicles being used and the infantry kit being used did not exist on the battlefield. Without going into detail, when the Germans confronted a determined force, they had a rough time of it including finding out that the 3.7 pop gun was not the best option for A/T warfare. Primarily the Blitzkrieg worked because the French let it. That and I think Weygand was a traitor.