Fans in SHOCK at Mathieu van der Poel BEAST MODE | Paris-Roubaix 2023
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- Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Paris-Roubaix 2023
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The Degenkolb crash and his reaction after the race broke my heart. You know how much this race means to him and it was amazing to see him back with the favorites again. Such an great guy. I hope he can come back in similar fashion next year.
I dont know the guy yet because i just recently started watching pro races and it was heart breaking to see his reaction, and couple of tire puncture like wout and the other guy too, this race is so brutal mechanical failure is a bigger factor compared to other races
@@saintupid7034 The cobblesssssss willlll decide!
But yeah. Its the most brutal race on the schedule. Unforgiving as shit. Evident in the poor, poor yet beautiful great person Degenkolb who crashes to no fault of his own and of no fault of MvdP ans/or Philipsen and the mechanical of WvA. Its unfair as shit. Its Paris-Roubaix in a nutshell hehe.
But nice my man. Have fun discovering this bbbbeautiful sport. The most beautiful by a margin to be honest. And I watch many lol
If MVDP hadn't won, I think they would have relegated him. He muscled Degenkolb off the road by making a sharp move toward him and then reacting poorly when Jaspers blocked him.
But he did win, and they weren't about to open up that can of worms. Degenkolb got jobbed.
@@aiarta2280 i just bought gcn this month and the 3 races i have watched live hasnt disappointed me, that performance of pogacar in tour of flanders and this race yesterday its an awesome sport
@@bobmclennan1727 Philipsen moved sideways because he wanted to enter in the small smooth strip out of pavé, he didn't know Degenkolb was coming faster from there, van der Poel was too closed between them and had only 2 choices: a sudden brake and probably a bad fall, or to push Degenkolb. He pushed, but I can't blame him. I can't see real malice there, that's why Degenkolb himself at the end wasn't angry. The race sometimes gives you no choice, and Roubaix is the hell, when you ride cobbles at 50 km/hrs you're taming a wild horse.
Was so bummed when John crashed, I reall wanted to see him the podium today, he had a fantastic race and seemed always to know whats up, great showing
I prefer taken out, not crashed 😢
Seeing Big John go down right at the end after looking magisterial on the stones was Pinot/Tour 2019 and Kruijswijk/Agnello 2016 rolled into one for me.
Hey man. Relax.
Dont bring up all these things in one comment.
Kruijswijk really was tragic, he would’ve won 100% sure
NNNNNNNNNIBALIIII
So much trauma
Fr, been hoping and waiting for him to look strong for so long now, by this point assuming his time at the business end of races was done.
Such a huge "what if" with WVA's tire blowing in the middle of what looked like the race-winning move. Dream scenario would have been MVdP, WVA, Degenkolb and Philipsen going into the velodrome together. Unreal level shown by all of those riders today.
Dream would've been Mads P beating all those guys
@@RAAZR- mads been performing really well he needs to be recognised
Philipsen would have won the group sprint. Pederson would be the only one that might have given him a run for his money at the end in a group sprint.
Phillipsen celebrating with one lap to go and then winning the sprint for 2nd was highly amusing
He was celebrating MVP victory ,his team mate Who have helped him si
much in sprints...
Big flex, he knows that nobody is beating him in the sprint.
Wout would have be pissed off
@@tusharvishwanath1996 the breakaway peloton already pissed off with wva not taking pull 🤣
It was all gravy for him at that point. He's guaranteed the podium and they already got the win. Nice to have the pressure off in the sprint.
he was an amazing wing man
You can say what you want about Mathieu, but he singled out 4 courses for the spring season - MSR, E3, RVV and PR - 1,2,2,1 - the people he lost too, WvA and Pogacar. I think you can't argue with the fact that he's the greatest classic rider at the moment.
Maybe WvA should do the same and do fewer classics next year.
I feel like Jumbo pushes him to race while Mvdp gets to say no
He is the classics rider in the best form at the moment. Pog and WVA do not want or have to peak at the moment. They have long seasons to look forward to.
Are u crazy? Mvp got lucky because of wva flats dude.are u kidding me did u even watch the damn race??!!
@@jjlove2725 yup, 2 flats and lost all his team mates. WVA was definitely as strong if not more than MVDP in this race. He dropped him for dead in the last 5 star and would have potentially carried on if not for that flat.
@@gettysb19 lol left him for dead? He attacked when MvP was trying to keep the wheel upright, hardly a left for dead attack! MvP closed it just as easily as WvA closed his. And if he was stronger, I’m sure he would have been able to at least get rid of JP before the velodrome…
The MVDP attacks with 60k to go were very important imo because van Hooydonck and Laporte were actually closing in. They had the gap down to 50 seconds and if nothing happens in the front group, they might actually catch them. But MVDP attacked, gained 30 seconds back and put the Jumbo guys behind for good.
And all that after MvdP had softened up the bunch considerably with a bunch of attacks, starting from over 100k out. Phenomenal stuff!
@@jangelderloos2211 The attacks 100k out were Jumbo. MvdP only started attacking when he had Philipsen and Vermeersch in the group and Laporte had fallen back because of his mechanical.
It was Wout who made that final break happen. He put in an attack and the rubber band broke after many others couldn’t do it. Going against all three Alpenin teammates and he was the only one who could match Van der Pole. He definitely had the legs today and knew it.
Also at around 45km, MVDP pulled WVA away from the group of 7. I think those 2 could have worked together and opened up a lead on the remaining 5 (really 4 since JP is MVDP’s teammate). MVDP seemed willing but WVA wanted no part of it, gotta wonder why???
Amazing that Degenkolb was able to get up and finish.
Longtime cycling fan and former Cat. 2 racer. This is the best race analysis I've ever seen. Even for someone new to cycling, the way the race is presented here makes it easy to understand the team tactics, and appreciate extraordinary fitness and toughness required to race at this level. Keep up the great work!
Great race. Jumbo need to review their tyre set up. My heart goes out to Dege, would have been a fairy tale if he had of pulled it off. MVP just amazing, he was the most aggressive of that leading bunch.
Ye. Van Aert had numerous punctures last year aswell...
did the Jumbo really run on the new adjustable tire pressure system, if so there is a problem
Don’t they use the same tires as Alpecin? 🤔
@@alaindrouin1585 apparently Laporte was using at the time he punctured at Arenberg, but it seems Wout's bike was not equipped with it.
In general their wheel sets and tire combination seem to explode every year. Last year Wout and Laporte both bent their front wheels. It’s like: we’ve done a mistake last year, let’s repeat twice now
"luckily there were no spectators with outstretched clapping hands this year"
throwback to one of the best bits of LR commentary last year "I don't why there's a spectator there, fucking NBA wingspan, clapping for Lampaert."
As a WvA fan since day one, I gotta say, this one hurt real bad
Don't let it hurt you bro - WvA couldn't give a damn about you... matter of fact, he doesn't even know you exist.
@@wolfharthiphop lol, chill out dude
@@wolfharthiphopwtf
@@wolfharthiphop Ooo big tough guy who doesn't understand how supporting works
Tell us who hurt you
@@wolfharthiphop your comment feels like you are enrolled into andrew tates hustle class
i think the biggest takeaway is dege is still got it on a good day. hopefully feels alright and comes back to contest some more big races i miss him being at the front
Same with Phillipe Gilbert; you may not have seen his name in a while and then he's winning Roubaix late in his career.
Without taking anything away from MvPD, it’s a bummer how it ended for for his two biggest competitors. Could have been an awesome show down.
was philipsen riding out of his skin, or is he just this good now? i tend to think its the latter. i think he will win this race in the next ten years.
Philipsen has been awesome since last year. When the race finishes in bunch sprints, MvdP actually is his last lead out guy.
Remember Philipson won at the Champs Elysees last year at the Tour de France
And also at carcassona and gent-wevelgem and schrldeprijs i can go on
I hope so, but we said this about Vanmarcke and Lampaert too and it looks like their golden chance is gone.
Jumbo win 5 cobbled classics but come away without winning one of PR or RVV. That’s gotta hurt a bit
High quality, thoughtful, time-consuming video highlights
Great video. An Aussie Cosmo, which is high praise indeed given the pedestal I put Cosmo on 😅 So many great details pulled out here - Sheffield’s saddle 😂 I want it on my wall
Great review, thank you LR as always
What a race. We are in a golden age of racing.
Nope, the 'golden age' of racing was when MVDP's grandfather was racing, Raymond Poulidor
@@savagepro9060 This is a new golden age. Racing is being reinvented by the main players of today.
@@savagepro9060Yeah. And not a living souls remembers 😂
@@Reb3nga you must be a dead soul
@@savagepro9060well, if you want to nitpick, you're still wrong, as The golden age would have been the 50ies. However the first commenter writes "a golden age", implying there were other golden ages as well.
Glad to see the big guys making history with creating a great palmares. All the big races are won by the big guys, and they fully deserve it. Great times
Great stuff! I haven't followed pro cycling or seriously cycled in a long time but ended up watching this race as I was flipping through my channel guide. Paris Roubaix was always one of my favorites because it's kind of like an all out boxing match. I need to brush up on all the current players though because my heroes from the 80's and 90's are most likely dealing with arthritic knees or something now.
You were lucky, you saw most of the cream of the crop yesterday. WvA, VdP, Ganna, Philipsen, Pedersen, LaPorte. Only Pogacar was missing really. It was a highly selective, beautiful race.
@@CoenCoenNL And poor Van Aert who showed excellent form but had the rugged pulled from under him because of a puncture. You can be in top form with a killer team in PR but as Mike Tyson said, "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth!" Epic and capricious classic bike race venue.
Amazing recap and summary--what a race!
As always a fantastic summary! Will there be a video of the Ronde?
What an area of cycling to be alive crazy just crazy what we see here from mvdp, wout and others i highly doubt something simular will happen soon
Great vid P!
always a pleasure to listen in to your podcast
Cracking race reviews!! Straight to the best points!! Delighted with the winner BUT absolutely devastated for Degenkolb because he looked soo strong But also because I would have like to see how it panned out for him if he hadn't have crashed 😢
Gutted for Degenkolb. What a performance. Would have added insane drama to the velodrome. The women's race was more exciting in the final 20k. So epic to see all the shattered riders. PHillipsen already celebrating before their lap was done and then dusting Van Aert was funny.
07:10 "my best classic season ever" ... so far in that day... World champion now :o
Gracias you are el mejor!
wow...he done it again 🏆👏👏
Tough tough tough day for an obviously immensely strong Wout
GreatCall as always, feel better
awesome strength and his team had all the luck too, felt sorry for Cristophe Laporte and Van Art such bad luck ...tough day out for many.......this year is shaping up just as I suspected, awesome full gas racing men's and women's ..... some rethinking on certain safety aspects needs to happen though, a lot more incidents that could have been avoided with better planning ? hard to be safe and exciting at the same time.....looking forward to all the big names meeting up in the mountains soon and loving the better coverage of women's road events, brilliant attacking throughout the women's race the day before.... almost a flat playing field at last, an inspiring change to encourage more equality and confidence for the future....
The thing is Philipsen is one of the fastest sprinters in the world right now. You don't want to drag that guy to a finish line sprint. So Mathieu having Philipsen in that group was a huge blow to his competitors. Even if Mathieu had faltered near the end, Alpecin still had a great chance of winning the race.
Really disappointed for WVA, and just in general to have potentially seen a crazy finish
Great review! No sealant in Van Aerts tiers? No foam sponge like mountain bikes?
Chapeau MvdP
What exactly was WVA looking for with those bottle pick ups? A gel? He lost one when he grabbed a bottle and the gel came loose late in the race and never seemed happy after that.
In german comentary they mentioned, that he was either searching for energy/electrolytes or searching for Water
Riders often look for specific drinks at points in the race, bottle are often marked whether they are just water or have sugar or electrolytes in them. Likely didnt get the ones he wanted so discarded them
MvdP did attack him through a feeding zone just before that. It was when they got away with two but van Aert didn't want to ride.
Bottles are marked with what liquid is in them.
WVA discarded because what he was given, wasn't what he wanted.
Simple.
Would it be an option for this race only (and in good weather conditions) to return to rim brakes. Since you can only swap bikes from the car and swapping a disc brake wheel takes way longer than a rim brake one. Not the mention the small aero gains
It's not disc vs rim brakes, but rather quick release vs thru-axle.
Rim brakes don't allow you run the 32mm tires everyone likes to run as easily. But more than that, manufacturers just don't make high-end rim brake models anymore.
What's with shirtless dude at 1:38 ? 😅 How excited was he?
John’s crash and WVA’s puncture.
I suppose those yellow things at the side of the cobbles were supposed to stop riders using the smooth surface? They could have started them a bit further away from the corner.
Excellent review as always! Any chance we can get a dedicated one for Ronde
He doesn't have the rights to RVV - I think just the ASO races (TdF, Paris-Nice, Dauphiné, Vuelta, Roubaix etc...)
Degenkolb was at the "pointy end" of the race last weekend, doing 5kph up a climb with the rest of his team. Wonder how VDP felt about seeing him in the break today?
He respects John as a former winner and knows the stupid tactics would have come from the team car
@@peterdieleman303 "pointe du chapeau", as VDP would say.
Brilliant race from MVP but a shame for WVA. It's a golden age for classics racing. We need a day when we get MVP, WVA, Pog, Evenapoel, Pidcock and a fit Lou lou all at it.
And Roglic
Probably the only race that could happen would be Amstel Gold Race, throw in Vingegaard and you would have one of the most legendary line ups for a classic
Probably the only race that could happen would be Amstel Gold Race, throw in Vingegaard and you would have one of the most legendary line ups for a classic
@@lucbenedictus289 id say strade biance is even more fitting than the gold race for that.
Bit of a strange edition. Moment that stuck with me: Derek Gee's wheel disintegrating on Arenberg.
Tire flatted, rolled off the rim then the carbon just can't handle the cobbles and kaboom. I saw at least 3 do the same but think there were more.
Re-watching your recap now in August (after TdF), one starts to think MvdP and Phillipsen had problems keeping a straight line long before TdF
I am glad MVDP is back this year winning many competitions! ❤
Ik ben blij dat ik niet bedroefd ben😂
For me there was 4 main stages.
Break of Koch, Gee, Bax and Hollman go up the road.
Van Aert makes a group with Van Der Poel, Laporte, Degenkolb, Kung and Mihkels (I think?).
Crash on Arenberg makes group of 8 including Rex, 2 Alpecin, Ganna, Pedersen, Wallscheid and 2 others who shortly got dropped - 1 DSM and 1 trek maybe?
Van Aert attack and subsequent flat leading to the MVDP victory.
i think LR missed alotta stuff:
i dnt think break of koch was relevant cos of the 2nd point which was WVA and Laporte's unexpected out of the blue attack before 100KM catching everyone except MVDP (surprisingly) off guard. Kung had to do some serious effort to catch up.
one pivotal moment of the race was the power swing cos until this point Jumbo had full control of the race with 2 riders whilst MVDP was singled out (story of MVDP's life until this year) but then the subsequent puncture of Laporte followed by Ganna's free taxi ride for Philipsen which changed the tide. also, philipsen had huge role to play later on.
crash of arenberg wasn't really important in my opinion (don't wanna sound ruthless but) we all knew it was coming from miles away although what had the biggest impact was the crash of defending champ and the key domestique and the biggest Jumbo Visma card called Dylan Van Baarle. cos now MVDP, unlike all the previous encounters, wasn't fighting against the giant Jumbo Visma but mano a mano vs Wout, like it's supposed to be (if the world was fair).
but then came the twist cos even when Jumbo were out of the game, Laporte and Van Hooydonck made an insignificant attack, which gave wout an excuse to not pull, letting him conserve alotta watts.
and the biggest turn of events was when MVDP tried to make one massive attack at the hardest cobbled sector but ended up getting tangled up with Dege and then Wout tried to take advantage of the situation by counter attacking on top but then twist of fate had his tyre punctured and rest is history.
Philipsen showing here that he's much more than a super sprinter.
JV really need to think about their setup. Last year they had problems, this year again. This doesn't seem like a coincidence. On the other hand MVDP seems to barely have mechanical problems in PR. Either the Alpecin setup is just perfect or he knows perfectly which line to take. Probably a combination of both but I think he is the best bike handler on the cobbles. Although that is really hard to judge from the TV
Well, Alpecin and Jumbo use the same tyres, so this time it’s just insanly bad luck for them
Was rooting for Wou,t so that flat tire at the worst possible moment was tough to witness. Chapeau to MvdP though. Rode a great race.
I've never seen Paris Roubaix end with bunchsprint finish
There is no gap in the program my man. Next Sunday it's Amstel Gold Race!
At 6:27 that fan with his yellow shirt on. What a total clown, it's terrible that such fans are still around. Closing off the option to take the turn well. With that speed it could've altered the race extremely.
Yeah, utterly stupid position to stand. You can't see anyone from there anyways. Which is why it sucks for the spectator, and for the rider that crashes into him. It baffles me that people still choose to stand on the inside of corners. Same thing as the Lampaert crash last year.
actually, look at the lady 10 meters further in the apex of the curve. She's really bad, as she wasn't even looking at the race, but trying to take a picture while standing in the apex of the curve. As she wasn't looking, she would never haven been able to avoid a rider crashing into her.
Le Grandson, rattles the Cobbles to Wobbles!
First Sanremo, Roubaix double since Degenkolb in 2015😮
What tires were JV using?! Brutal. Was MvdP on tubs?
Same ones as alpecin
Unreleased Vittoria pro I think
@@hankschrader2353 yes and they were using that "inner liner" thing. It totally didnt work though.
@@MrBusunglueck Van aert wasnt running it so its a mute point
@@xanarchynl He was running it when he got the puncture. Thats why the tire doesnt look flat, but still the bike is uncontrolable.
JV looking at ADC tyres and pressures every year forever.
Pogacar stole the triple from him xD
Would be cool if it showed the riders speed.
curious about one thing: it is clear that riders can enter the velodrome while a few leaders could be sprinting it out. is there a protocol / rules related to this??
I swear I had this thought today before it happened. It must be the only chance in worldtour racing riders have to cross paths at different points in the race and (potentially) crash
riders get out of the way of those sprinting.
International track rules: enter on the high banking and merge when safe. Those sprinting have "priority" right of way.
@@jangelderloos2211 commentators on Eurosport said road racing rules applied but they could be wrong to be fair.
@@jangelderloos2211 that makes sense thanks
Can you imagine if they did the night version, that would be the real tester. Mare of the Night....
I use to be a cycling FAN, I dopped now I'm an Air-Conditioner!
that flat.. real bummer.
Apperently mvdp shouted at phillipsen that he should move over but that there was a miscomunication on what side
Crazy?
6:00 - 6:02 - back wheel wash from a flat. Argh! :P
Yay
Good vid
Ganna is turning into a Classic rider.
Poor Jumbo. I guess the kaps can't be blamed for WVA's multiple punctures (he didn't use it - maybe not the case for Laporte's duo) but the team definitely has some work cut out if they want to play next year. Was it tires? Pressures? Bad luck as everyone says? I would like to have heard more from Degenkolb about his kaps experience. He was looking strong before his crash. Did it help or not? Otherwise, interesting tech but so sad this great race and the super efforts of their riders was marred by so many badly-timed equipment failures.
Why are they using disc brakes with fixed through axles? Seems to me quick release rim brakes are better and faster in this dry condition.
u can't use rim brakes cos of sponsors.
The Degenkolb crash is only controversial for those who don't understand cycling.
This may just have been the least satisfying ending to a great race I've ever seen. Deserved victory, but the Dege crash and Wout puncture ruined the ending
Hello LR viewers. What do you think of the following alternative rule for Paris-Roubaix?
No riding in the gutter on the cobblestone sections (must stay on the cobbles for all parts of the race where there are cobbles) but there is a bike change station set up right after the final cobblestone section and there riders can switch to any bike you want (including TT).
In this alternative, competitors would therefore plan to ride two different types of bikes (if they wanted to), one of which could be better suited to cobbles, and the other smooth pavement and the track at Roubaix. I think the bike companies would love it.
Why didn't Tadej race?
what a great review and thanks for making a sober explanation of the crash with degenkolb ! all the hate is undeserved to alpecine
Superb rider mvp
Same wva
Wva in monuments has had some bad luck. Also, wva has had some poor tactics in monuments (and in tour stage races) by contrast mvp seems to have better tactics and race smarter.
That wva flat, ugh so sad for him and for the racing
I had thought it wd be 3 up sprint, w Ganna. This race shows, as Flanders did not, that Ganna still not at level mvp and wva, but is getting closer.
ANY race in which wva snd mvp and pogacar are at, these 3 a level above everyone else in the world
Sagan now truly gone
He did announce that this is his last season racing road.
@@dangurtler7177 he lost focus yrs ago, after divorce
This race I think the team tactics were on point though. But sadly ruined by mechanicals and crashes again and again.
@@Tibovl yes correct. V good tactics both wva and mvp
Canyon bikes sales soar high with mvdp.
Are we sure WVA punctured, or did the trick tyre pressure adjusting hubs fail ?
He didn't use these hubs.
this channel and chris horner r the best
Yeah, very shocked.
I missed a good, large sized morning break. It would have made for a more interesting race
Someone bring back qr disc brakes, changing a flat tire is a nightmare nowadays
A question, Pogacar talks about needing to putting on a few kg for this race. Philipsen is by no means a big rider. I think Pogacar has a big chance on this one if he targets it. Super hard to actually win though. So many things have to go right.
Pog needs it so he has the strength and power to distance the others because he thinks he doesn’t stand a chance at the sprint. Jasper has less pressure - just needs to follow and then outsprint everyone.
I disagree with Pog in the sense that I think he can already be competitive. The sprint is not the only way to win against MVDP or WVA, and he can gain ground on them by conserving strength and letting them pull, then just going full gas the last 20k. The cobbles will help him lose them if he goes through at his insane pace and if they’re tired from attacking. Still, WVA and MVDP would likely be favorites.
Philipsen is 9 kg heavier than Pogacar according to procyclingstats. Quite a difference.
@@Tibovl dunno how accurate that is, but on Eurosport he’s at 69kg to Pog’s 66kg, not a lot of difference. And it looks like he’s much smaller than MVDP and WVA (75 and 78kg respectively)
@@thefilipinoknight6617 Fair point. But he looks bigger than Pog by a deceny margin to me. Besides, I think Pog would do well here, winning however is a different story.
@@Tibovl yeah I saw what PCS says, it also says Philipsen and MVdP are the same weight, which I don't believe. MvDP is clearly a much bigger person.
impressive that wout rides a flat tire to avoid a sprint with MVDP in the velodrome. you could see the fear in his eyes
so many tire troubles with Jumbo - could Jumbo’s tire rim selection have affected the final results?!
imo yes.
Also SOQs last chance to rescue their image as wolfpack. Gone.
Van de Poel is the goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐
It takes a lot of skill and luck even to get a top 5 in this race! Mvdp got it
This time. Mads P managed 4 place
Best since 1896. No failures, this time.
Run out of steam. Alpecin triumf 1and2
Jumbo Visma unlucky, Dylan van barle
Crashed out, puncture to Wout van Aert. Sagan 🙄 when you are going to
Stop, you stop fokus on each race sadly. 🔝❤️
If ganna could corner he would have so much better a chance of winning
Mads P. will take a second world champ title later this year in Scotland 🙆🏼♀️🇩🇰🙆🏼♀️
Trust me, i come from the future 😉
It's easy to talk but thinking about Hinault put down instead Degenkolb and it will a different situation.
VDP and Philippsen are lucky guys.
How Uae not renewed the contract to Philipsen for sign Ackermann ?? 😂😂
MVP is so clean.
Wout rode so much better but he had to ride defensive because he had no team mates but every Time mvdp went he followed easily but then he had a flat the one who really impressed was Jasper
He had almost a full team until one had a mechanical and MVDP forced 2 others to drop.
@@brentrasmussen2440 his (wout) team mates dropped because Theo had mechanical die tou even Watch the race
@@roeland_st every minute of mvdp and team taking it to jumbo visma
No limit
sagan doesn't seem like he's got the fire and he doesn't give a shit based on his vibe this year
in his head he retired like 3 years ago
this year is just about taking the money and putting it into a retirement fund. no desire to race whatsoever.
For 100km "out for a walk" and the average speed overall is beyond 45 resulting in the all time fastest race .... A walk is sth different.
Van Aert attacks when he sees the fall. That's a bit.....underhanded.
if wheels go flat, so does earth