ArduinoPRO Portenta Machine Control [Unboxing and Initial Impressions]

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • Arduino released a new product under their PRO line of products: the Portenta Machine Control. Built around the Portenta H7 Processor, the PMC is the first industrial IoT product purpose built to optimize and unify machine production across your global fleet. Learn more in this video where we see the ArduinoPRO Portenta Machine Control being used and what it's standout features are.
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    2:45 ArduinoPRO Portenta Machine Control Unboxing
    4:55 First Impressions and Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 26

  • @drheaddamage
    @drheaddamage Před 2 lety +2

    I'm getting one of these for our robotics lab.. Wondering if the built-in Portenta H7 already has a bluetooth antenna on the chip, and if the connector on the front is just if you need a better antenna. In the end, the price-point isn't bad on this for what it offers, as it saves me having to buy an ethernet shield, a housing, a sensor board, etc. etc.. Just wish it had PoE...

  • @walterlippens6675
    @walterlippens6675 Před 2 lety

    Great piece of hardware 👍

  • @AdaptivePhenix
    @AdaptivePhenix Před 2 lety +9

    For engineers already familiar with how to open a box, proceed to 4:40.
    "It's a _hardened_ product"
    How? It has *ZERO* galvanic isolation.
    "It has 2 processors"
    Yeah but they communicate through RPCs (remote procedure calls). If you want to get serious, you need to be looking at the Parallax P2 with 8 processors and shared memory and shared I/O.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  Před 2 lety

      Arduino is meant for prototypes and Arduino pro is meant for production machines. That’s why it’s hardened.

    • @AdaptivePhenix
      @AdaptivePhenix Před 2 lety +3

      @@4.0Solutions
      So please define "hardened"
      It drops 24v (machine control standard) to 3.3v via a voltage divider (2 resistors)...no opto-isolation.
      It doesn't even have differential line receivers for the encoder inputs.
      This is nothing but a breakout board. I downloaded the schematics and the only impressive feature is the power-supply filtering.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  Před 2 lety

      @@AdaptivePhenix It sounds like you have a definition in mind. What is hardened?

    • @AdaptivePhenix
      @AdaptivePhenix Před 2 lety +4

      @@4.0Solutions
      Any experienced maintenance tech has a story about how 110v AC "mysteriously" made contact with a 24V input.
      In the case of a _truly_ hardened circuit, you lose an opto-coupler.
      This Portenta will end up resembling overcooked polenta.
      2am Sunday morning in a 24/7 production setting and you have a fried controller? Dozens of hourly employees stood around, costing a fortune?
      This is the _real_ world, coming from a guy who has decades of this stuff.

    • @citizen240
      @citizen240 Před 2 lety

      @@AdaptivePhenix
      Back when I used to talk to the manufacturing types (as opposed to the IT types) about the kinds of solutions they needed on the manufacturing floor, the operative word was “robust” - hardware, software, and communications

  • @dwsan1tx
    @dwsan1tx Před 3 lety +3

    FYI the Portenta is currently sold out on the Arduino website. Being it’s classified as an industrial product, perhaps it would’ve been available at industrial vendors similar to Phoenix Contact products supplied by Allied Electronics. It should’ve came with an antenna. What method is used to mount the board on a backplate? Surface mounted, DIN rail or snap track? 24VDC? Battery backed? If Arduino wants this to become a standard industrial control product, they need to address its ability to be incorporated into new and existing panels. I see this as remote I/O for remote locations such as pump sites, lift stations.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  Před 3 lety +1

      Allied Electronics should become an Arduino PRO Distributor! We would really like to see more industrial products like PLCnext distributed on Amazon
      The PMC is Din Rail mounted! 24vdc power.

  • @vitobrabetz1146
    @vitobrabetz1146 Před rokem

    Hi, what is your opinion in using the Portenta Machine Control for controlling closed loop stepper motors with drivers as substitute to a Siemens SPS. Siemens SPS are currently hard to get and I thought of using the Porenta instead.

    • @sherylmccrary9045
      @sherylmccrary9045 Před rokem

      There's some discussion about this on the 4.0 Solutions Discord and the consensus of those who've tested it seems to be to use it only for monitoring or non- mission critical applications.

  • @briantw99
    @briantw99 Před rokem +2

    It is weird that it has no antenna. You said it's a big brother of a Portenta H7, but it has an H7 inside - open it up 🙂 That in turn makes it weird that it has Micro USB on top, and the USB-C underneath is not even accessible.

  • @jakubszlaur7336
    @jakubszlaur7336 Před 3 lety +3

    Hi man awesome video!
    If you have any spare time I would have few little questiony for you:
    1) What libraries can it run?
    2) Can it utilize HTTPS?
    I am a student of Industry 4.0 and in my job we are trying to find cheap way to make full-sized IoT solutions.
    For cloud service i choose Google's Firebase.
    But I need to know if Arduino portents can commucinate with the databases REST API :)
    Thanks in advance!

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  Před 2 lety +1

      There are a ton of Arduino Libraries..Take a look at their documentation. It also supports HTTPS. Thank you!

  • @kcf3122
    @kcf3122 Před 3 lety +3

    Zack, Great Video! Great Job!

  • @marvinhensbergen1515
    @marvinhensbergen1515 Před rokem +1

    You like the cost? I can suggest to use a din mount for a Arduino Uno, Mega or even a Raspberry pi. You have the screw terminals and same din rail mount. These mounts cost anywhere between 20 - 50 euro. Way cheaper than these Arduino Pro's. I like to mount my arduino's on din rails as well. But it doesn't need to cost 400,- euro. You can also combine these din rail mounts with an Arduino mega with ethernet included, a bit more expansive, but still way cheaper than this. When you want to develop your own pcb, you can design a pcb with pin headers to make your own din rail mount for your microcontrollers with the additional circuitry included on a single board.

    • @eng3d
      @eng3d Před rokem

      It is more than the rail

  • @tinsaeberhane4836
    @tinsaeberhane4836 Před 2 lety +1

    "The Portenta Machine Control is a fully-centralized, low-power, industrial control unit able to drive equipment and machinery." The quoted is taken from their site. why do you afraid to drive your machinery with Portenta?

  • @kaseyzeltinger2735
    @kaseyzeltinger2735 Před 3 lety +3

    auto focus gave me a headache.

  • @_Junkers
    @_Junkers Před 2 lety +1

    That's one hell of an expensive breakout board. I know it's "pro" but a title shouldn't dictate the value.

    • @4.0Solutions
      @4.0Solutions  Před 2 lety +1

      Breakout boards don’t come with software and a controller… Not sure what you mean. Also the cost of a bread board shouldn’t dictate the value an edge device like this provides to your application. It’s an engineered product for turn key machine builders. Why do some lines afford a $30,000 PLC while others are forced to use a more inexpensive plc? I think it’s for Different use cases.

  • @rusticagenerica
    @rusticagenerica Před 11 měsíci +1

    Sorry but too much time spent opening boxes, opening bags, and allowing us to taste the performence of the auto-focus of your camera. About 4 min+ in the video, the content hasn't started yet. And the fact you like the shiny box etc ... and remove the scotch to rotate, open the box, really brings ZERO value. Waste of 21K people's time. 21K minutes is about ... 40 man days. 10 min in the video, we are still seeing stock videos, website screen captures, and you (kindly) hoolding the board in your hands. You can make a much better use of your video making abilities.