The Beastiary - Phoenix: Myth and Reality
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- In this video we look at the mythical phoenix, its relation to the sun and its origins in Egyptian mythology, we define what this bird symbolizes and how it would exist in reality.
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“Ofelia’s Dream” www.bensound.com
“Earth Prelude” Kevin Macleod
“Shores of Avalon” Kevin Macleod
“Water Prelude” Kevin Macleod
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SFX:
“Fire Burning”
“Flapping wings”
“Screaming Hawk”
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So far, you're the only narrator who mentioned Bennu/ˈbɛnu, so, I'd like to listen to you from now on for my mythological research.
I can never bring myself skip any part of these videos. The sounds of these animals, or at least the attempt to adapt a realistic noise of them, are the most interesting to hear.
Glad you enjoy the sound effects. Let us know if there's any one you like in particular.
Gratitude for this 💜
I’ve always been drawn to a Phoenixes. I always felt a connection. I believe they are real and are still alive today✨
I think out of all the mythical creatures the Phoenix is by far my favourite, and just a shame it isn't better known these days.
So...the greatest bird In the world
Brian James yes
Love the videos !! Keep up the awesome work, I really appreciate what your doing here.
hence the rarely caught. That's due to how smart the Phoenix truly is. the Phoenix it self is a majestic creature. no one truly knows if the Phoenix is in our world today.
She is here. Downtown Phoenix 😉
@@terrylynnjohnson7314 its a He shhhhhh
@@supie5063depends on the culture. In Asian culture there are two kinds: fenghuang and the hou-ou, fenghuang being the female and a houou or ho-oh being the male that has a crest atop its head.
Perfect video all the lore and all the science and naming names with examples. Thank you.
Phenix, a strong symbol.
Really good job ! i do some research for an illustration that someone has commissioned and that is exactly what i was looking for. Thank you for sharing !
Ive watched so many videos about Phoenixs but i keep coming back to this one why i subscribed
Glad to see you like it!
Well done! That was great!
Best explanation thus far, bravo 👏
This was a very good video. amazing creature. enjoyed the information, it's so interesting!
safa anam my names Phoenix but spelled, Phenex, does that I have the power of it? Like spiritual?
Nice video, Sir. educational ! 👍🏻
Thanks for the upload, my 6yo sons name is Phoenix so this was a really cool video to show him
Noice
The description in the video are exactly the same as what I've saw. Exciting part is I'm not the only one who have seen this.
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Golly this is thorough... Swell for start to an origin story, told of humanity.
You forgot to mention how the Phoenix is often depicted opposite or fighting against a snake, dragon, or some form of serpent.
I heard one Christian tale that the Phoenix cast the Serpent out of Eden after God had cursed it, much like how the Archangel Michael cast Lucifer out of Heaven.
The reason why I’m here because I saw one, at early morning before sun rise,I couldn’t believe my eyes thank God there was a person with me whom also saw what I did confirming it to me that we didn’t hallucinate . It Literally turned in to a fire ball then vanished as it flew away from us.
If you have someone with you. It doesn't matter, if not one other person believed you. It really helps to have that witness to remind us that we are not hallucinating.
Hey it isn't necessarily yellow or red right
Great video reminds me of the art I did about the Phoenix Combustion.
Interesting, would you care to share that art?
Beautiful quote
Thank you 🙏🕊♥️🌎
I adore this kind of Bird amazing I love it!
Love the Phoenix! Reborn from the ashes!
If the phoenix is real, my guess is that it's a bird that uses a "fire bath" to get rid of parasites and dirt on its feathers (similar to how some crows use the smoke from burning cigarettes to get rid of lice, ticks, and leeches). Its feathers might be coated with a fireproof material to avoid burning to death (which could also result in the bird being poisonous or at least foul-tasting to predators). The sight of a phoenix fire bathing could be exaggerated by ancient people as the bird dying in a fire and being resurrected.
This is brilliant! I love this idea. it opens up so many ways for the phoenix to be interpreted. Well done, I'm really enjoying your posts. Keep them up!
Thank you
incredible
Symbol for 2021 for sure! 🔥❤️🔥🦅🔥 They were a true bird I'm sure... from those bacteria that they put out into space... a very similar birthing and reproduction cycle... I'm sure in years to come many of our species like the Dodo will become myths rather than the actual reality... be your own Phoenix and rise again as we head towards spring and summer... let's dust the ashes off our feathers and fly high again above the world 🦅🌍🌏🌎🔥🦅🔥🦅🔥🍀🌻🌈🌤
Yep and thanks the legend is so cool
Does the Phoenix have a relation with Goddess Iris from Greek Mythology? Why was Iris mentioned at De Ave Phoenice?
The Phoenix is basically an immortal bird with the tears having an ability to heal like the feathers. Thats what in getting out of this basically :)
yeah pretty much.
It's an immortal bird that is made of fire, healing tears and feathers, and rises from ashes
i was looking for the significance to the phoenix bird cause i dreamt one the other night but in my dream it was more like a road runner but black in between its wings where bright orange fiery wings it would run to me and ket me pet it than it disappeared
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Revisiting this post a year later... I was thinking about how to reify it and if the Phoenix were either genderless with self-fertilized eggs or perhaps hermaphroditic, then it might hold the eggs internally. (Generally a single egg but more maybe possible, though generally unviable... Resulting in a rarity that would lead one to believe there is only one). The imolation would kill the parent but also "activate" the egg. Assuming that the Phoenix had a sort of genetic memory, it would be less helpless than other birds and if it were to store food in and around the next before imolation, it might then feed on this until it is large enough to forage/hunt on it's own.
I'd imagine the Phoenix to be somewhat like a chicken in it's younger phase of life before growing larger wings and maturing into a more eagle-like visage with irridescent red and yellow plumage. The highly reflective feathers would give it a firey appearance and the oils from gathered spiced stored in it's feathers could even smolder protecting it from parasites. This smoldering would not result in immolation unless the bird were to remain still in the heat of the sun for long enough, which it would only do when it's internal egg was large enough to "activate". This plus the higher concentration of flammable oils in the nest would result in the likely hood of combustion.
@Thatcher Wood Thanks. Pardon autocorrect for the typos in my post. When I got this reply, I had to reread what I commented to remember it. Stuff like this makes for a fun mental exercise. World building is my favorite part of the writing process as it combines creativity with knowledge of the real world, abstracting what "could" be rather than focusing strictly on what "is".
I offered the notion of being able to reproduce sexually or asexually as well as being able to store the sperm of a male in an egg until you meet your demise or are mortally wounded. At which time the Phoenix may choose to use and activate the egg. Genetic memory is a biological phenomenon.
You can't order a fried phoenix at KFC for sure.
I imagine that would imagine friend phoenix would cause some intestinal distress...
Moon-Chicken Productions Someone who's so starving will surely have the stomach to do so.
kirby march Barcena ttttttyyyyygghcuc
that would be a spicy ass chicken tender tho
Loyal follower
This creature actually existed however, according to 'science' the creature died before humans were around which is a lie. It would be considered a dragon or dinosaur if I told you the name of this creature.
Whats the name? Can i have more info pls
À hummingbird At it's youngest fonction
We embody the spirit of said creatures . Wether it be snakes or lambs dragons or lions.
I EMBODY THE PHOENIX at this time. It resonates with me in this moment but it’s ever changing .
EVEREVOLVING💜
The phoenix lives from ash to end as ash and rises again living to run from the greed of man, is there any man that can see the scars inflicted on it, would the phoenix be able to see a persone of no harm and would it trust and forgive
Interesting... the phoenix as a symbol of innocence. I guess that is a logical association considering the fact that the creature is associated with birth, and the purity that comes with it.
Amen
The golden eagle looks like a living Phoenix to me. Beautiful
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After having a VISION of the Phoenix 🦅 you will within a short period of time visit Egypt 🇪🇬
I think the most closest representation of Phoenix or possibly the cause of this myth's origin may lie in acute observation of trees yearly cycle when a tree goes through journey of four seasons. Starting from spring when it is full of life, greenery and luster traveling through summer, becoming pale in autumn, and finally shedding it's leaves in winter.. Since the falling leaves turn into ashes it would be equivalent to Phoenix turning into ashes and with the arrival of spring just after the dead of winter, the trees becoming suddenly alive, full of lustrous leaves, could be in my opinion an awesome illustration of Phoenix rising from the ashes..
Beautiful idea! Never thought of it that way, thank you for sharing it!
Also it is the precise nature of certain yuppies of trees that require fire for reproduction suck ad the eucalyptus and certain pines. Created in a way that they both benefit from and provoke fire with their highly flammable resins. Its one of those beautiful patterns found within all of the natural world that reveal that sometimes the seemingly destructive or devastating was actually the groundwork for perfect regenerating and the beginning of something new.
I'm suprised that he knows about the Chinese Phoenix Fenghuang
One other thing, didn't the Phoenix originally come from Phoenicia?
I kind of like this
I don't want to capture the phoenix, I just want to see it
Jesus the phoenix?
Is there any movie based on phoenix?
With every mythical creature I always look for ways to defeat it, maybe because the phoenix will be burnt by such flames it just seems right to put out the fire before anything that comes out
In mythology iron is what can kill the Phoenix.
Wont stop it
You can't put out flames caused by phoenix, and you can't "kill" a phoenix, even if you use iron it will still reborn regardless of what you do
Breathtaking and heartwarming. If such a creature exists, or used to exist, what was its purpose? My guess would be that Jesus would have been one of the incarnation's or versions of/ examples of the phoenix. 😮
How would win in a battle? : Pheonix VS Unicorn VS Pegasus
maybe pegasus cause it can fly and run. bird and horse together might be better than just horse or just bird
and maybe we are not supposed to know the full meaning but its in the eye of those who see it
I would never call that a myth
The Phoenix is awesome
Hey you need intro example
I don't think it's a myth
Just add belief then you used both sides of the brain.
Absolutly no
@@NomadOfTheWoods8 yeh
Perhaps it should be a symbol of humility as well
My name is phoenix
That's pretty cool!
I used to now some on called phoenix
My names Phoenix, but it’s spelled Phenex.
Same here haha
If you can't capture it then how the hell does anyone know what it's tears or feathers can do?
See the google
I read that in Chinese lore they represent the feminine yang where the dragon represents the male yin. So i was surprised when i heard they were all male. Possibly bc they look much more like a rooster than a chicken?? And i could be wrong but isnt it only the male peacock that has the large tail feathers? Scientific information and artistic information are clashing in a big way and both have their reasons.
It runs in my blood
Wow this is me.
What's up with the spontaneous combustion I swear my whole life I have bouts with this problem I have holes in my shirt and burn marks on my skin I wonder if the Phoenix is not in human form now
that's why there's only one at a time
Gregory GSR thats because its not a myth..due to xhristianity all wonders of the world have been made myth.
PHOENIX IGNITION.
Where there's light there is Justice
Anything can be real in this F'ed up world, myths aren't just myths.
Myths always come from somewhere =v=
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I'm surprised that you never touched on the Mediterranean pelican myths that closely resemble that of the phoenix.
I had no idea about this. care to expand?
Moon-Chicken Productions
Sure. So this comes from researching the crest on the coat of arms. The crest bore a pelican feeding its young. I found it puzzling that a crest would bear a pelican so I did some digging. Turns out, the Mediterranean pelican sleeps in such a way as to look like it is wounding itself under the wing with its beak. This gave rise to a phoenix-like myth that it was able to wound itself and use it's blood to give life to its young etc. By extension, it became a symbol of self-sacrifice, giving ones blood for the lives of others.
Because the Phoenician myth of the Phoenix stems from the region this bird inhabits, it is speculated that the origin of the Phoenix may, in fact, be the pelican.
absolutely true. LMAOO #322
i see pokemon, i leave like
In 3:27 it is not a Phoenix its a mockingjay from the book/movie hunger games (caching fire).
Indeed. This was meant to draw a comparison between the two ideas, the mockingjay and the phoenix. However it might just e my imagination that this connection exists. I thought it was rather poetic on the dust covers and what not, even though the books didn't mention the bird beyond the pendant and a few mind tricks the people of the capitol inflicted on the characters
Phoenicia forever
Phoenix=rebirth
Phoenix dactylifera comonly known as the date palm.The saying "From the ashes rises the Phoenix", likely originates from burning palm fronds to produce ashes that were used to build the pyramids. There is now good evidence that the limestone blocks used in their early construction including those at Giza, were not carved but cast from re-amalgamated limestone. Ashes from burnt palm fronds have been suggested as a key ingredient in forming geopolymer re-amalgamated limestone. Hence the saying "From the ashes rises the Phoenix"
See the work by Joseph Davidovits of the Geopolymer Institute there is also a good youtube vid by him
The P. dactylifera also has feathery fronds, likening themselves to those of a male peacock.
“Then I thought, ‘I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days like the phoenix”
Job 29:18 NRSV
NEVER EVER JUDGE WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DON'T JUDGE UNLESS BE JUDGED WARNING
Well..said.mary .anme.pray to.lord jesus
maybe its an example of the truth
If the Pheonix can be born again from its ashes, it means the Pheonix does exist even now, It cannot go extinct, but I've never seen a Pheonix in my life. I'd love to see one though.
Well, if someone hunted it...
Great Thunderbird Grand mesa ! It's beautiful.
I Am The Phoenix, I live to save humanity.
much like us.rising from ashes.burn it down to hell.most amazing features.I like competitors who are fair bcuz I like challenges but I hate my enemies bcuz I don't like threats.a healthy competition keeps that fighting spirit kicking within you.I respect those who play fair.
A man after my own heart. Nietzsche would be proud of you.
💜💜💫💥💯💋🤚
this explains the success of the Phoenix Suns. Christians don't dare naming a team after their mascot, because they know they will lose.
Patrick Neary what r you talking about? The Phoenix is in the Bible scriptures
firebird trans am
Did it really died or was he never alive
Alas the mythical phoenix, as far as i know, is just that: a myth.
O been.sending.them.. Last 5.months..cheer.up....x.mary anne
Interesting. What have you been sending and to whom?
Phoenix= celestial communicatiin grid of the circle of life/light.....Church/Ekklesia
I'm not a crazy person but I'm pretty sure I saw a phoenix. Is there anyone who studies this mythology that I could ask about what I saw?
Perhaps someone in the comments can help you. Please describe what you saw over here, we will certainly give it a go an try see if we can confirm or explain what you saw.
Moon-Chicken Productions I'll like your video please keep making more video?
Josh Verlin I believe you saw Phoenix when your 3rd eyes open. As I saw the same, A fast flying bird with red yellow feather and fire burning around her body flying around people infront of me, and she made a sound. I’m sure it is Phoenix, but It may be a spirit or guardian angel. When she flies, the time feels like stopping for a second, i saw people stop walking but the bird fly so fast and leave a flame behind her. Maybe the speed she fly is way too fast compare to human movements. So it feels like a very slow motion moment when I saw Phoenix flying infront of me about 3 meters from the ground, in open public area
Josh Verlin I think I saw one when I was younger
DME_TAROT INDONESIA yes this happened to me , it did feel like time stopped , but that was a long time ago
my name is phoenix
That's pretty cool. How did your family come by it?
I follow the Phoenix not and believe and the brid
Richard Adkins What the he'll are you talking about? What the hell is a brid?
Sorry to say this but I found a Phoenix come out from the ashes
My chinese name is world phoenix
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It's Lebanese phoenix myth not egyptian except in late era
It's origin is in Lebanon not Egypt?
Brenton Iverson Yes lol the Phoenicians
How can it get extinct if it can be rebirth
Well that is an interesting question. If the Phoenix were a real creature I suppose it would be hunted into extinction for its beautiful feathers; or perhaps they might not be able to reproduce in captivity, which would surely put and end to these creatures.
I wonder if we should add a faux extinction hypothesis to some of the videos.
what if they managed to catch it and they are keeping it in captivity for all its life span... ya know... for some of its good fortune
À hummingbird Can Not Rebirth À Certain Vary Of Flight With It Wing ! Like Hurts À Man To Cling To Men !
What if a human did manage to catch a phoenix? Imagine the power that individual would hold.
You cant catch the meaning , who can capture a spirit thats one with Gods Spirit..good luck with that ☝
@@christinathomas4740 My apologies. Earn the loyalty of one instead of forcing it to serve.
There u go
I serve christ
In reference to the fact that human cultures the world over depicted phoenixes or phoenix analogs: this is similar many other mythical symbols. It could be argued that it is a representation of an archetype, most famously described by Carl Jung, which for those who don't know, are structures within the unconscious minds of all humans (what Jung referred to as the 'collective unconscious') which seek to denote some idea or value that is intrinsic to our species. That's my butchered attempt at a definition anyway, for more info I'd say look it up on your own time.
Anyway, the connection to the son/sun of God (the Christ/the Risen Savior), and that it's a stand-in for renewal, most often of the spirit or soul. Interestingly, birds more generally are considered archetypical symbols for the soul/spirit as well. So it would make sense that all of these ideas would be condensed together.
I agree with this 100 percent. Jung hit basically everything on the nose. Basically all these myths could just be explained with Jungian psychology. Though that does take the fun out in a certain way, while introducing others.
Sounds like the Christ Bird
This is NOT a "Why you are WRONG" comment, just to state extra facts you neglected to say in the video.
1. The phoenix is bright red, orange, gold and yellow, while most female birds are drab brown, tan and grey. This points towards it being male, more evidence is that it's related to peafowl, where the males (peacocks) are brightly coloured while the females (peahens) are dull brown or tan.
If it was female, we would say that its "tan, brown and grey".
2. The phoenix is said to have a sweet singing voice, making it basically like an oversized songbird, but only male songbirds sing exposed.
3. This mythological bird's name comes from the ancient Greeks. The ancient Greeks gave the same name to three other men: a king of the Dolopians, the brother of Europa, Cadmus and Cilix and a chieftain who was the guardian of the young Hymenaeus. Therefore, the ancient Greeks likely thought that the name "Phoenix", which meant "sun-red", as masculine and likely the mythological bird was also male.
In other words, there's irrefutable evidence that the phoenix is male.
Birds use the ZW chromosome system, where ZZ is male and ZW is female. As the females still have the Z chromosome, it's possible for a male to be created via parthenogenesis using the ZW chromosome system. In other words, a male phoenix is possible using this theory. The only problem is its own reproduction. Just assume that the bird's sperm is able to somehow become a new clone of the original bird.
It also *BUILDS* a hollow "egg" out of myrrh to place the ashes of its predecessor in.
However, the ancient Greeks refuse to tell us about:
1. Its diet.
2. Its oasis' exact location.
3. How its song sounds like.
4. Why there isn't an endless supply of guano in Lebanon, where it was rumoured to live.
5. How it keeps itself healthy for half a millennium.
6. How it has enough brainpower to store half a millennium of experiences and memories.
7. Why the temple of Heliopolis isn't filled up with "egg" urns from its trips there.
How I think the phoenix originated:
An unusual "peacock" hatched. He had bright yellow eyes, fiery plumage and a sweet singing voice. He was then ousted from the nest and flew to Phoenicia, present-day Lebanon, and lived in an oasis happily for half a millennium. He grew old, collecting some spices and herbs from his birthplace and made an "egg" out of myrrh. He then soaked in oils and a spark set him ablaze. Now rejuvenated, he put the ashes in the "egg" urn and brought that urn to Heliopolis, Egypt. Repeat.
If it were real:
The phoenix was said to be "unable to be caught". I took the phrase as "unable to be shot down by an arrow" due to this being written in ancient Greek times. The speed of an arrow is about 378.2 km/h, so I took it as 1.5 times the speed of an arrow to be the top speed of this bird, which is...567.29 km/h. This is faster than the peregrine falcon at 390 km/h.
The bird's body temperature is taken as 45°C. Therefore, he needs more oxygen than his lungs can probably provide to convert enough glucose into energy to fuel this short burst of speed. Enter cloacal respiration, butt breathing. In other words, to get enough oxygen, the phoenix would likely have to be able to breathe through both ends to fuel this speed. With no accounts of people getting bird droppings from the phoenix's speed flight from Phoenicia to Heliopolis, the bird's cloaca must have at least three sphincters to prevent poop leakage from his butt breathing. The inner two work exactly as our own do, but the third outer one will periodically and rhythmically open and close to pump air in and out and will be a combination of smooth and skeletal muscle like cardiac muscle.
Wow! What a research!
Kentucky Fried phoenix
lol
Rafael Nascimento your so mean lol
looks like joe bidens false eagle symbol in the background when he does his speechers.