NEW DUCK-DIVE TECHNIQUE - Easily Get Past Big Waves
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- čas přidán 5. 03. 2023
- Do you struggle to paddle past the break?
Do you get knocked off your board when you duck dive under big waves?
Well, good news! This tiny variation will make a GIANT difference. Even on medium to large-sized surfboards.
This will work for any skill level: beginner to expert.
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Be very careful with this technique. Anytime I've gotten hit by my board while duckdiving, it was because I created too much space between myself and my board while underwater. One time it even led to my board hitting me in the face, breaking my nose, and getting a concussion. I've been surfing Ocean Beach in SF (sometimes in the double overhead and even triple overhead range) for about 15 years. Just be very careful with this technique. Duckdiving big waves can be very unpredictable, and you want your board close to you, even if it means you might not gain as much ground.
Thank you.
This is actually a standard issue duck dive technique. But it’s also inefficient.
The best way to duck dive is to punch barely below the surface, going quite shallow, actually. There’s a little sweet spot right where the lip impacts the trough that will push you past the “tumbler” and squirt you out the back. It’s a counterintuitive approach because most people think that going deeper will get you under the tumbler. But that just isn’t how it plays. It’s a little bit of a mind fuck and takes getting used to but you’ll get through and out the back faster and more effectively more often than not.
I also start by first pushing the nose in front of me but then letting it trail just below the top of my chest as I move through. Once I feel I’m coming up behind the wave I pull the board forward and often start my first stroke just before or just as I break the surface.
I’ve been surfing for over 40 years and have been applying this technique everywhere from Pipeline to Steamer Lane. It works.
Never thought of starting the paddle just before coming up.. interesting. I need to try this
@relaxingsounds5469 you can take a deep dive and once the board touches your chest chest start "swimming" down and out the back you'll stay under longer and travel further. Sometimes I trip people out when I pop up way in front of them
@@relaxingsounds5469 it’s a little tricky and the timing has to be dead on but you’ll figure it out and get used to it.
You say you dont have to push the board far under the water, so dou you think this would work with bigger boards like a 7ft mini mall?
@@retribution999 Not sure. I’d have to see one and try it myself.
Critical mistake here is putting your first leg in the air way too early and only using it as a counter weight to get deeper. Instead shoot that leg as far forward as you can up by your shoulder, then scoop it back to push yourself forward and downward deeper in the water. Now pull your body tight ti the board, kick back both feet and shoot the board forward to allow turbulent water to pass under you and shoot to the surface. There hasn’t been a set I couldn’t duck dive since I began using this technique here on the east coast
Can you elaborate a bit more on "leg far forward as you can" I'm curious and appreciative of refining my duck but right now my head is visualizing a popup tucking leg to chest.
Definitely giving this a try. Thanks for the tip!
Man now I know why you're so fit! Paddling out in a blizzard, you yourself are a superman 😂
I've been doing this technique for a while since I could never get a proper classic duck dive done, funny thing is nobody taught me this technique, one day I just realized that I was easier and better for me to do this haha
Me too haha
I recently started using this technique surfing a thicker Roberts white diamond. It works. It really is a normal duck dive, but doing these proper techniques is vital to successful duck diving in big white water with bigger boards. This video is great because it helps you think about what one should be doing under water! Thanks for the video! I think it will help a lot of surfers!!!
you are always a great teacher..... thank you...... and very inspiring
Thank you this is the best video I could find to show me how to duck dive. 5:00 My favorite explaination is here.
Thank u, I'm gonna try this tip !!
I have a 6’8 , 22 in wide and 3 1/4 thick wade tokoro egg board. I am female 108 lbs and I cannot duck dive this board. I will turtle, do a push up on small waves or bail. I rarely surf waves that I would have to bail however but duck diving has always been a challenge for me because I use boards with volume. Sometimes I side edge the rail into the oncoming wave too. I wish there was a better way to paddle out with bigger boards!
That board would be difficult to duck dive even for a much bigger male! Turtle rolling is your best bet, if I ever end up just bailing I try to hold onto the board by the rail saver so at least it doesn't get too far from me. One thing you might find is you can start surfing thinner boards. A 6' 8" x 22" wide board but say 2 3/4" thick would still give you plenty of planing surface area and stability, but easier to manage in bigger waves.
Oh awesome I will try this in my next surf 👏🏽🤙🏽
Thanks. Good video!
gonna give a try next time I go surfing, I will send it to my friend as well we both struggle duck diving the classic way
This is simply a regular duck dive!
superman duck dive
I came to write this comment, but you did it first…just a regular duck dive.
@@Prosurftraining same same. Let’s not overcomplicate surfing 😅 a superman duckdive, rocket duckdive, or lazy frog duckdive all remain regular duckdives against irregular conditions and with different board volumes 😉
This guy is lying to people that is a duck dive not no super man duck dive and he's like this other guy on CZcams calling a turtle dive in Eskimo roll people stop trying to change the names bro that is week
The embrio duckdive, reverse cowgirl duckdive u name it. Lol
nice video, damn i thought i was gnarly surfing ocean beach in sf but you guys are doing in a blizzard! bravo
Just start paddling under water. You can also twist and double dip. Also keep your eyes open under water (idk if it hurts in freezing weather) so you can see the plumes and actively avoid them
Nice clean conditions right there!
I use this method on my bodyboard when it is big and also add some kicks with my fins when I’m under.
some nice duck diving man
Bro you’re an innovator
That’s a good technique with a larger volume board.
I’m gunna give it a go stay tuned for my review
He ma name is Khalil iam from Algeria in north of Africa iam intermediary surfers I see all your videos and I aplicat all your advice and I want to tell you thanks may God elah and thanks you because I surf today and I catch more and good wave.
SMH nice 👌 ...catching water so nonpad leg like a swim stroke down helps 2 thanks awesome
I think this channel is great if you're focused on fitness ... however I find some of the techniques are not necessarily the most efficient and don't really work for me ... also, it's important to factor hydrodynamics & wave reading as that's 99% of the overall game.
I have found this video about "how to do a midlength duckdive" from the Conatus Surf Club channel really helpful.
iSURFTRIBE also has a really great traditional duckdive breakdown video - the best I've seen on CZcams really.
The midlength duckdive video in particular has really helped me with higher volume boards & get much deeper - as an average build woman who doesn't have the mass or build for the technique above, I think it's important to note that there are better ways that work for differently built people and it's about efficiency, rather than brute strength overall ;)
I’ve had some success when I spear the wave with my board while trying to get it just deep enough under the white water… I’ll give your advice a go…
Any footage of you catching waves?
Can you try this in actual waves instead of snow-slop-wind swell bumps?
i have found that rather than trying to go super deep i dive shallow enough to miss that first impact somewhat but then i come up through the foam fairly quickly. the deeper i try to dive on a wave that has already broken it seems like the further i get pushed back.
BINGO!!! This is exactly correct. There’s a sweet spot just a hair below the surface where the wave impacts the trough. The turbulence in this little zone is diminished and, 9/10, you’ll squirt through it much more quickly.
It’s a difficult technique to get used to because it’s totally counterintuitive. We instinctively think that going deeper is better because, in our mind’s eye, we imagine ourselves getting below the turbulence.
I remember Taj Burrow mentioning this some years back.
steeper more powerful wave that sucks up more try to dive deeper more downward. crumbly already broken whitewater try to get deep but propel more forward through it.
if its a really big whitewater u can paddle sideways a little and try to duck dive it sideways and through its easier to sneak under with ur board parallel
@@jdl76556 Disagree. The bigger and heavier the wave the more critical it is to do a shallow duck dive, literally barely below the surface. Bigger waves create more turbulence further below the surface. And there’s a size and/or power limit to duck diving. There’s no shame in bailing the board when the wave is pretty much impossible to duck dive under, which is why you see people bailing regularly at Pipe and Sunset.
I often do shallow duck dives because I am too light for deep duck dives when I use my step up board, and yes I can attest that it’s surprising how little turbulence there can sometimes be
what new technique me and my boys have been doing this for years
It's a 10, if duck diving scoring was in contest you would be the goat!!!!😂
Tried and true
Shot bru. Think I can make that work. Never tried it
I do this sometimes. I thought i was just lazy lol
I find it more helpful to climb the board towards the nose with your hands after you push under the white wash and let the buoyancy of the board shoot you up behind the whitewash. Your hands will end up close to the nose Takes practice but you shoot out with speed to continue your paddle.
Push board under wave, as force passes over your body you grab the nose and hang on as you shoot out like a champagne cork. You’re welcome!
Noting to see here move along 🙈
Damn snow surfing? Where do you live man?! Lol
Was thinking the same, wtf
Duckdiving with your arms extended can be tough on your shoulders in my experience.
You just extend your arms after being under the water. First do the leg or knee push (depends how deep or harder the wave is) and then under the water you can extend your arms so the board will lead you up. The most importance thing to make the duck dive efortless is to keep your body close as possible to the board... That way you can manage better the turbilance of the white water and avoid injury on your arms and save energy of your muscules.
Hmmm. Typically what pulls you back is not the board its getting the body underneath the underwater turbulence. If you're under that the turbulence pushes you out the other end. For me its the depth of the duck dive that saves you.
It’s perfect technique. The foot on the back pad provides the depth but the extended back leg is actually the rudder
Having more volume forces this duck diving technique to occur naturally
Body boarders been doing that since day dot LOL
Good boogers don't push the back of their boards they push down and scoop with their fins and kick like he'll you can easily get down 10ft
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I mean, yeah..this is the actual correct way to duck dive. It’s not a “super” thing though, this is simply the correct way to perform a regular duck dive. There is zero innovation or change involved here.
But if you didn’t know how to duck dive at all, well here you go.
😂😂
I didn't get into surfing until my 30's. A mate said go out as much as you can. Onshore days are good too. Just practise your duck-diving.
But why?
You'll see.
the other surfers just couldn't duck dive properly.
This is dangerous! The board can smash your face and knock you out! At least turn your head away. Those waves aren't even that big. Anything much bigger is safer to bail and pull yourself up the leash.
This is not new or innovative
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