*** FAKE *** PAMP SUISSE bars 2.5 gram!!! Bought on Ebay!!! FAKE GOLD BARS!!!
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2015
- I purchased these "FAKE" Pamp Suisse 2.5gram gold bars on ebay. Buyer Beware. In this video, I show you the signs that indicate a fake PAMP gold bar. These are all over ebay & I actually purchased this from a "Precious Metal" dealer!!! I ended up getting a refund so I will not give the name of the dealer. Please, check your bars. This is happening with ALL SIZES OF PAMP SUISSE GOLD BARS!!!!
First clue "EBAY"
lol. don't buy gold on eBay. that's just plain stupid.
Well said brother 👍
There are legitimate sellers on Ebay but you have use due diligence
It's safer to buy gold now on eBay because it's easy to get a refund.
hahaha someone bought gold on ebay ? wtf
Him buying such amount of fractional gold bars was stupid at first place, people like him love to pay for premiums, it´s like an addiction XD
Bro they look huge for 2.5g gold bars. They look like 20g gold bars. Gold is very dense metal, thus it's heavy.
They look like 10 oz bars surface area of the face of the bar that size it should be paper thin
Buying gold off eBay is like buying gold off a hobo at the local 7-11...
Not always. i am a gold mine owner and have sold large fire assay beads a few times on Ebay. These weighed nearly 2 grams, au and pt.
lmao
im watching this because i just bought a 10 gram pamp gold bar... so far everything that he compared to the real one i have it (the transparent thing, and its kind of like in a capusle and not fake plastic however the cerificate number is only a number, theres no letter? my guess is that its just an old model, or does it that mean mine is also fake
I appreciate this very informative and detailed video on these Pamp bars. I learned more from your video than the Pamp website!
I am super lucky to be able to get them for just a little above spot at the local bank here in Qatar. Thanks for wanting and hope you got your money back.
I'm sorry you got scammed, but the packaging looks fishy from the get go; it lacks refinement. The real packaging is laminated, not in a plastic sleeve. You should have checked that before buying.
This really sucks! I'm glad the dealer agreed to give you your money back.Keep us posted if it really happens.
Thanks for sharing and for the heads up. Glad to hear you got your money back.
Thanks for posting this. I hope you got your money back. In any event, I appreciate the wisdom you share with us newbie precious metal buyers. Any advice?
Oh shit! I wish I saw this video before buying 40 of these last week from a guy selling these out of the trunk of his car.
You Booshit !! You never buy that shit !! No make a story you fool
This was a major "COIN DEALER" selling these products. Be careful guys.
SILVER KILLER Sent you a private message. Take care.
+SILVER KILLER I heard that some real pamp do not have a letter in front of the serial number. Is that true?
Do you know 100% that real pamp ALWAYS have a letter in front of the serial number? Sources?
Don't you think you should have already posted that guys name all over the place??? why didn't you do that? why not tell us who it is? Don't you care about other people getting ripped off?
POST HIS DAMN NAME !!!
Otherwise you deserved what you got and have no sympathy from me.
They immediately refunded/replaced the fake items, which is why he did not post their names....otherwise he wld have.
*****
Oh, so hooray for him and screw everyone else??? He should have done it anyway to help out his commrads. He is selfish and he deserves to have it happen to him again.
thanks for the reminder, be diligent, check your purchases!
Thanks for the info! I will have to check all my bars when I get home.
I have been wondering if buying off of ebay is safe...maybe I will avoid it.
May not be worth the 7 or 8 percent I can save from the usual dealers.
For the safety of future buyers the sellers name should have been posted IMMEDIATELY!!! I'm sure there were other people that bought those bars from your seller. Why not do them a solid and and make the seller known!?!?
I agree
It’s a good thing you found out after you bought them!
You got me curious and i noticed several of these 1 grams bar are still for sale on ebay. Not in those packages, but strangely each time the package is weird looking, there isn't any serial numbers on the bar. Now do all the bars should have a serial number ? I find it odd that some dont have any... even if only one gram, the genuine looking one do have a matchig serial
what's the dealer's name or handle? we don't want others scammed with this junk. sorry to hear about this! hope you got your refund by now.
Thank you for the heads up.
That sucks thanks for shareing thats why i never buy from anyone other then my dealer that i trust
Silver Bearbunny This was a big time "COIN DEALER" selling these products. I assumed that I could trust them. Thanks for watching BearBunny.
Really ! Wow thats messed up
Just lookn at the video and lookn at the real one and fake one big differnc in the shine . I hope you make out ok
+gold Bearbunny he what to get free gold and refund even he know it fake
can it still be sold on gold stores ?
so did you open one to test and see if it was gold anyway?
hi guys can i ask.. i bought 5g pamp suisse bars but their is no design on it. like lady fortuna..is it fake or not.. but it has certificate number on the plastic cover and in gold bar itself...
Thanks for this video,very accurate and should be a warning to all precious metal buyers...I would say that 40-60% of the gold bars on Flee bay is fake or plated...Good job SK......BwDuL
Wouldn't a good metal detector be able to pick up any other metal(s) used to counterfeit these? I have a whites DFX, but I don't have gold bars or fake ones to see. Seems like someone has tried this or should with a fake one. Curious to see if something simple like that could pick it up.
thanks for the video, glad u r getting ur money back...
Most pamp bars that I have ever seen came in the sealed flat assay card or were loose. I have never seen any in a heat sealed(?) plastic card. That would be my first warning right there. Did you happen to open any of them up and see what they were?
Great channel, let me be the 1st to congratulate you on your upcoming 1,000 subscribers.
Hi Silver Killer I've just found your channel and subbed.
Did you ever get your money back?
Great vids thanks for sharing theses information be more caution about buying theses bar.
I know there can be good deals on ebay, but I stay away. The few dollars I may save might cost you later. Thank you for the heads up and glad you got your money back!
Thank you for all this videos, even after this was posted in 2015, here I am in 2017 and I purchased from JMbullion and SDbullion. I was too afraid to even look at eBay to think of saving a small amount, Bought from a reputable dealer.
Yup. Agree 100%. I only buy from SD Bullion
Did u ever try to melt it with any local jweller? Or simply are u claiming by the scanner..!
I purchased a 1 oz silver bar on eBay last year and it was fake, the first giveaway was that I had a hard time taking the bar out of the capsule that came in. Then I decided to take my knife and scrape the side of the bar and that's when I saw copper underneath that fake silver. Lucky for me that the seller reimbursed my money right away and apologized. It's getting really hard to trust anyone on eBay so I think I'm going to start buying my silver at my local coin shops.
It's really scary that even "assayed" gold can be counterfeited.
MrMonkeySwag96 it’s gold plated copper
I feel your pain. I am about to purchase my very first 1 gram gold bars.
Any good sellers you recommend or brands I should stick to?
I am scared after watching your video lol...
this is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER buy silver or gold on e-bay
Apparently though there are genuine sellers on there it’s just extremely difficult to differentiate them from the scammers
First Timer on your Channel .Cant believe all that fake gold .what E Bay going to do about that . Did you buy all those bars at once . Sorry to hear about your fake gold 👨🏼🍳 Chef
what is the real bar weight in grams and the fake bar weight in grams on your scale ?___________
sorry for your loss! be careful next time!
This is why I stress so much on the importance of removing at least one of your genuine bars and handling it in your actual hand. Getting the feel of gold, feeling the weight, the density, the shape, size, color and texture. Someone who is familiar with gold will immediately realize there is something off there cause the fake bars are larger than the real, also thicker. Gold is very dense, and almost no metal can match its density, thus the fake bars will either be off on the weight if they have the right dimensions or will be off on the dimensions, thickness, width, length, if they want to match the weight. The color of the fake bars is also dull, gold has a unique luster to it. Dont know why people are so upsest with keeping the bars in the plastic. Gold is gold, gold will not go down in value cause its not in the plastic. Infact go and try selling one of those bars to a coin store. You will see the very first thing they are going to do is remove that gold, and test the actual bar. Some will go as far as drilling right into it. So if they don't trust the plastic why should you. Its total nonsense that you need to keep the gold sealed to maintain the value. The value is in the metal, not the plastic case. By now I can be blind folded and pick up two bars,xand let uou know right away which one is gold and one thats not.
This is good advice, thank you. I'll remove my first
Thanks for the info!
I'm looking at a 1 gram gold bar from a big seller I forget his name but it's a company not a reg. Seller the 1 gram bar is a Istanbul gold refinery and its bid for .01 cent there are no other bidders and it ends in 2 hours should I get it for .01 cent just to see if it's real or fake,
how do you tell as a beginner?
Are you selling them for a discount. I would like to buy them or buy one to see the difference for myself. Thanks. Very serious buyer here !!!
all i want to say is your video is the best thing out there to let people know what they are dealing with in the gold business. i sell pamp, perth, credit sussie, JM, monex, apex and many more. People need to know what to look for when buying gold. THESE fakers are ruining our business and making many people lose there $$$!!!
You know what I think the Dealer is too blame!! They probably did it on purpose to see if they can fool and probably did fool a few people. You should definitely let everyone know who the seller is. Why are you just looking out for yourself and not letting the seller's name out???
So do u get ur money back!
Tough luck Brother , I hope You get Your money back .
Ebay is just too risky for Me .
that's a pretty big 2.5g bar. My 5g bar is a lot smaller. I know this is an old post but did you ever get your refund?
Thanks for tipping me, was about to buy coins from ebay
So you had those bars for 6 months before you realized they were fake? I test everything I buy the minute I open the box. My testing kit includes the standard stuff - scale, calipers, etc. plus the Sigma Metalytics Precious Metal Verifier. It cost me $850 but it's worth every cent. I have a few clearly labeled fake bars and coins that I deliberately purchased as test cases to see if my verifier functioned properly and the verifier picks out the fakes every single time.
If you're going to buy bars and coins then you MUST have the tools to make sure they are real.
thanks for your video i was thinking to buy gold from pamp & diamond for a nice ring
thanks. Great video!
Why did it take 6 months to find out?
is it actually gold?
I'm sorry for your loss.
crazy. glad you got your refund Bro
did you ever get your money back?
Seen a video add for PAMP some bars had letters first some didn't in the same video ne for the cert. # any ideas
the ones without letters can be real because the older pamp bars didn't have them. get a sigma precious metal verifier to check the metal withot breaking the packaging.
Thank you for the information,
I was taken for a 1 oz. "PERTH MINT " fake bar, THANKS TO EBAY I got a refund.
*** LESSONS LEARNED (1) NEVER buy from a seller that doesn't have a multiple perfect 100% rating (2) ONLY buy from a precious metals dealer packaging
im watching this because i just bought a 10 gram pamp gold bar... so far everything that he compared to the real one i have it (the transparent thing, and its kind of like in a capusle and not fake plastic however the cerificate number is only a number, theres no letter? my guess is that its just an old model, or does it that mean mine is also fake
Man, this BS makes me sick to my stomach. I really hope your refunded. Sorry mate, it's disgusting. Take care.
That's brutal. I hope you get your money back.
"This is a fake plastic" 😂
can u guys tell me a name so i can stay away please. i been few silver ounces of ebay and dont wanna purchase of this kind of dealer.sorry bout the man that hurts badddd!
I would have liked to know how you discovered they were fake.
Tell us who it is! I bought some Canadian maples and it turns out all the edges were shaved off so the edges aren't 90 degrees... Be wary and proceed cautiously with any purchases on eBay...
Thanks for sharing!
how much for a fake one? I WANT TO USE IT FOR A KAY CHAIN
+Serger Goedhart $10, even a fake one still contains tiny of gold.
10 seconds into the video & I noticed the 10gram bars on top look fake. The only one that looks real is the 1gram bar on the bottom right.. I'll watch the rest to see if my guess was right or wrong. Subbed your channel!
Where would you recommend to buy gold and silver from as online goes?
apmex
Perth Mint
isn.... You can even earn by showing people how to save with precious metals!
Let me know if you want the link of need more info.. check my channel to see my last order you will see that this is real and NOT Fake
THANKS for the warning
👍👍👍👍👍THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION
What is this seller's handle????
Lmao who really buys PM on ebay 😂😂
they don't look real at all, what about the silver bar? was it also fake?
What ever happened to that man did u get your money back?
Can u tell us the dealers name
I'll only buy on APMEX now. Thanks for sharing.
In July 2018, I bought an bar of 1 oz of platinum "PAMP SUISSE" at a European auction. When I got it, I immediately realized that it was a fake. I wrote to the seller and wrote to the auction. In the end, in a month I was returned money. On this I have finished experiments with ingots.
He;s pissed...sorry that happened to you...thanks for sharing.
I hope you got yo money back Bro. Just got my feet wet in gold yesterday. Picked up 2 grams for 65 each at a local pawn shop
im watching this because i just bought a 10 gram pamp gold bar... so far everything that he compared to the real one i have it (the transparent thing, and its kind of like in a capusle and not fake plastic however the cerificate number is only a number, theres no letter? my guess is that its just an old model, or does it that mean mine is also fake
Pamp has an app called "Veriscan" that works with smart phones. It's limited to a few products now but the gold fortuna bars can be scanned with it. Just verified one of my 1 gram bars and it works through the package or without.
Be safe never buy from eBay
+Adam Levin As a ebay buyer and seller i can tell you i have done over 100 PM transactions on ebay and have never once got fake crap, you just have to be smart who you buy from. I understand this guy could not have known since he bought from a coin dealer.
Yeah I tryed it out myself and earlier how misguided I was so far I have only done 25 and on %75 I got what I paid for and %15 I got more than what I paid for
+U nknown Ya I bought from Apmex and bayprecious metals for a good deal. Ebay is fine, but just be careful.
+Thomas S this is something you should see. Have you seen this? Click here!
More like "FeeBay"
Just looking at my fake and they have fixed the A in the logo and improved the shine.
Thank you Brother 👍
Super informative!! A friend of mine purchased a gold 1 ounce PAMP Bar for herself around 12/10/16. She called me, and was very upset because it was a FAKE 1 oz. PAMP GOLD BAR. She spent $1,246.00, plus postage (registered mail) for a PAMP 1 oz. gold bar. Guess what? She decided to sell the bar to a local coin dealer, and it was 100% fake! Of course she is trying to get her money back, but nothing is happening...If ANYONE IS BUYING GOLD OR SILVER TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT VIDEOS SUCH AS THIS!!! Great Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you
Well that sucked a.. but read the post and glad you got your money back. Subd
What a shame. I hope FTC investigates that.
I am sorry about the scam you went through I hope you have resolved that issue or press charges on the seller for economical terrorism.
dealt a lot in coins and bullion, and never got held up except on Ebay...
the last and final time was by the company; they said, "list for free"
and then sent a bill and demanded payment.
*WHY* would you even buy gold or silver on *EBAY?!?* lmao that just screams scam. cmon now, when i drop serious money on gold/silver its gonna be from a reputable know dealer/mint thats been around for years. Yeah you may have to pay 5-10$ more but thats totally worth the quality assurance. and beside by the time enough time has passed to make good product on your investment, or shits hit the fan and the monopoly money the banks give out dont mean shit anymore that 5-10$ will be a drop in the bucket.
Sorry to hear you bought fake bars. You have mentioned several ways to tell a fake but another way to tell is the serial number on the back of the card and on the bar should be made up of dots, not a solid line making up the numbers.
Au Rebel Yea, I know these things now, but these were my first & only bars of gold. Lesson learned & I hope some of the other people who have bought these now know what is going on.
I truly am sorry that you were taken advantage of but have confidence in ebay to make it right. I always buy from reputable sources like APMEX, Provident which I'm sure you already know. Well anyway keep us posted on them returning your money. Take care.
So you still have not open them up
I'm so sorry about this when it happened. that's why for me, I only buy coins and I buy from apmex. I don't really trust ebay because I been hearing a lot that there are fraud sellers that sell fake anything on that site, not just precious metals.
I noticed this was your last upload. Why??
but is it real gold though?
buy from the sellers listed below and then test by cutting into the edge of the silver austrailian coin or other coins and bars to see the copper or brass under the silver plating
Never understood why people keep the identity of people that screwed them concealed even if they refunded your money BECAUSE they were busted. Honestly, anyone that's been around precious metals for some time, and certainly any dealer, can tell these are fakes. If he's purporting to be a precious metal dealer as you state, chances are, this seller had hundreds, if not thousands, of these and sold them to unsuspecting buyers. So of course he's going to refund your money, because in all reality he can be sued for fraud for far more than he refunded you.
because it is all BULLSHIT. Who comes on after the fact to say hey I'm a moron....
I run a local coin shop where I live and we see many fakes that people buy off ebay.
I'm curious why you would go through eBay to buy gold instead of more reputable e-commerce websites...