Why an Innocent Man Confessed to Medical Extortion Hacking🎙Darknet Diaries Ep. 25: Alberto
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2022
- If he looks like a hacker, smells like a hacker, and has a bunch of crypto wallets laying around...is he really the hacker you're looking for? Alberto was arrested for extorting people with hacked medical records in 2017, but he swears he didn't do it.
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Whenever dealing with any police remember two things. Never admit to a crime, and when talking with them assume they are lying just to get information or conviction.
If this is coming from a north american perspective. You have to remember not all countries have good legal systems and you weren't/are not in the room.
It happens in the US too.
The police can legally lie to you.
@@notafbihoneypot8487 I've delt with both Brazilian and American police, their tactics are very similar, except one can be payed off.
@@wellingtonbruh3756 yes, one person on the internet, some stranger.
Tells me about an anecdotal experience.
You win man
You win.
@@wellingtonbruh3756 i totally believe you. Now live your life man
No "sarcasm"
@@wellingtonbruh3756 i think you are right... @adanielhill Uruguayan interpol are masters in the art of manipulating and playingn with your mind.
ALWAYS get a lawyer. the police can (and will) lie to you. they are not on your side. do not speak to them until you have legal counsel.
this is why court cases related to the tech industry should have specialists in whatever matter is being discussed in the case ... i felt his frustration ..
Crazy how the police didn't even try in this one. They seemed to have just wanted the case closed asap
It usually what is going on in central America country.
I believe also that this country is one of the most corrupt places with corrupt police forces
An informatics expert question in court about technical information sounds logically to me like a doctor questioning a Turtle about is health issue.
#1 Turtle don't speak our language.
N#2 Doctor aren't a veterinarian.
Moral of this story.
Even if you follow the rules. Someone without true knowledge can still try to make sure you have lots of problems
It's honesty not that surprising at all. Happens all the time.
Many such cases.
Also admitting to a crime you did not commit: It came from a clear hearth but a very naive mind.
Never have full trust in the justice system even in the most developed countries in the world.
I agree, but try to see it out of his perspective.
It is easy to say it is niave in hinsight. But in the moment? And especially if you KNOW you are innocent?
My opinion though that was built from similar experiences like Alberto.
@@WeAreEJE you don't make their jobs easier, by admitting something you didn't do, especially when you KNOW they can't find that evidence.
@@WeAreEJE it’s unfortunate but that’s why here in the US you just don’t speak unless your lawyer is present.
Believe that they will make evidence that convicts you over seeing an absence of it and let you go.
To them, that’s the equivalent of being wrong and they don’t want to “have egg on their face”.
"You wont get the truth and justice from admitting to a crime that you did not commit."
- Some court case proverb
Left-wing extremists learned it a long time ago and coined a catchy acronym, ACAB
As a person who knows Spanish I second what he said about the guillotine. It's a squared shaped device to cut paper. Spanish word is guillotina, as is the head cutting device called as well in Spanish.
Even in the UK we call it the guillotine. Even the sliding ones we call that, they're in every school next to photocopiers
I've got one only a few feet away.
Now I think of it, I used to have equipment that could be used to make a credit card. I might still have 50 blanks.
Whichever company makes the medical device/service that had admin/admin should be cancelled. Medical systems need infosec asap.
Im from a Spanish speaking country living in the US and I've met so many guys that talk like this it's so funny to hear try to explain something really complex
This story is pretty good
el acento uruguayo es tan raro de oir en ingles no😭
So sad I mean this guy is a professional.
So sorry that you had to go thru this Alberto.
Thank you Jack for sharing this.
Crazy what they did to them
“Can you hack the Facebook of my girlfriend?” 😂
Got followed by this dude a year ago on twitter and I always wondered what his bio story was and if he was legit, thank you for informing us about his story!
Got followed by what dude?
Alberto i guess
It's important to develop good communication skills along with technical knowledge and this is one reason why. Being able to explain concepts to laymen can be a very useful skill.
Or not say anything would go a long way
Good luck Alberto in the future, hopefully you and your lawyer can find an end to all this stress
another example of a good person in the focal point of bad stuff. Bad people conspire and hide, and sometime set up good people for their crimes. Everybody should be careful, especially in the infosec space.
Thanks for sharing! Hope Alberto will come out better on the other end of this!
Alberto isn't a Hack3r br0 ... I've tried having technical discussions with him multiple times on Twitter .. Half the time he's snoring at his KB TBH
pleaseeee add visuals pictures of these people/ things/ or place would make this so much better... great job jack!
Second time hearing this from you! Love the content.
I see a lot of people who smell worse than hackers in this tale, and it's the police who didn't police each other.
How are you not gettin millions of views.. feels like when you discover someone a year before everyone else does. keep it up!
Came here from Spotify where I found you totally randomly. I only downloaded the app for one other podcaster, and you're the only other podcast I have on there. Guy, your stuff if greatness. Had to seek you out on CZcams just to leave a comment (and to like all the episodes since Spotify doesn't seem to have that feature?). Thanks for the amazing stories - I'm nowhere in the tech field but have since a little girl loved tech and the mechanics of human behavior that makes it go, and your podcast is just a special place. I'm worried about spamming your channel with comments, but I'm probably going to go through and leave comments on the episodes I've listened to on Spotify that blew my mind.
Thank you, man! 🌟
spotify presenting this to you is not a coincidence lol
the algorithm knows better than you do what you get hooked on. Stop lying to yourself
@@whodis5774 Stop leaving rude comments on things you have zero knowledge about? Seeing as I initiated a search for something & found it? And also, fck off?
@@ninsuhnrey same things, search is also strongly influenced by the algorithm. aka, with whatever the social engineering boys and girls at spotify came up with.
Jack these stories you do and the way you do them are amazing BUT PLEASE
when you talk about things like the photos of the items police seized PLEASE add them in man, its the one things its lacking and its not too hard to do, even just a small amount of visual editing would go so far!
Good suggestion. That would make it better.
@@JackRhysider I admire your work Jack! Sincere thanks 👌🏼
Jake tran.... Jack rhysider
@@JackRhysider I love the scene though! Try and keep it by like putting the photo up on the screen!
@@iwazhere7077 N
As someone who has been invictimized and tried to explain a cyber crime (PUA fraud) to a police officer, it's an incredibly difficult and frustrating experience.
Unfortunately, I was unsuccessful and was never taken seriously. The perpetrators are still free and have moved on to the next scam.
Although, I did get to watch their brand new Audi SUV get repossessed a few weeks ago.
Couple things, this particular episode just happened to be on deck; I know the domain of cybersecurity is so vast that I am pretty sure all the concepts, ideas, hierarchies within concepts that I have gotten pointed into exploring have lead to some level ups & mostly a dunning-kruger effect masking as level ups but rest is just great episodes leading to great listening which all cycles back to the structure of how these stories are shared but damn son, this is a helluva channel! I play poker for a living and for now these episodes have overtaken my 10-11 year Grime playlist which I couldn't play my 14 tabling without. Now I am running out of content. More #DarknetDiaries + lots of ❤ from India no. 143
This is so sad how a country's law system does not further investigate. I too have all the necessities needs for ethical hacking, will all get arrested even though innocent. He needed a lawyer to fight for him and he didn't have one.
I died when Jake was like,"come to think of it...where have you former cellphones have been? Long time, huh! " 😅😅😅😅
Love these
This guy seems so incredulous. The nervousness makes it seems suspicious.
This was so frustrating to listen. I'm from South America and work in IT. Sadly the police is usually useless and you can't expect anything good from them
I love this channel.
This is amazing.
A student found vulnerability in a website in university website. He reported to the university and simply got suspended from the school
Alberto. What a guy....Amazing.
can confirm, I like tech and never throw away old phones, just keep them in a drawer
Lol I have a bunch of cell phones in my drawer too.
Life Lesson: don't work a first world job in a second world country. In the US he could have gotten a fair trail... assuming he did not confess like he did.
As for why you like hacker culture, you are a hacker. Cops and killers both have guns, thieves and locksmiths both have lock picks, hackers and cyber security pros have the same skill sets and tools. The only difference is how you use those skills and tools.
The origin of word "hacking" is a person who plays around with machines
Hearing that genuine love was effected in this really breaks my heart
WOW such a massive difference between the stories of Alberto and Baptiste Robert.
Hope things continue moving up for Alberto.
Wow this is some story, well worth watching. Big shout out to Alberto. Our hearts go out to him.
Sharing is caring. Help support him and the channel, smash the subs every little helps.
Thanks for the great content. ❤
Love this
It will be fun to get on a podcast lol
Haven't we all poked at things out of curiosity 😂
CEH.... Ew why 😂
@JackRhysider I'm from North Carolina, so that Rick Flare reference really hit home. Whoooo!!!
Awww that's such a sad lesson to learn.... Even when he sees an open door for bad actors to use he won't tell the owners anymore. 😢 stupid governments! can you try a little harder please?
And still a "G" to the end...found a vulnerability...and kept on trucking...minding his business mind you! 😂😂😂 Great story though sad with Alberto and his gf!
You mention URUGUAY, what a legend! Man of culture ;)
No good deed goes unpunished.
Thanks Jack, Your show is my fav podcast
glad you liked it!
I love this mans story
So the moral of the story is if you're ethical and you find a vulnerability, forget about it and move on. Otherwise you may become the victim of an ignorant government.
Good story!
I'm glad it had a happy ending. 9 month in prison sucks but it doesn't really effect your life in the long run.
Alberto followed me on twitter 2 days after seeing this should I be worried 🤔🤣
So the lesson is not report vulnerabilitys. Lol
not the lesson but the mesage unfortunatelly,.. sad.... Take care, Alberto
That's correct. Also ACAB. Also don't talk to police. Their job is not to perform justice - their job is to arrest people. No matter what. They will use any excuse to arrest someone and they don't care whether you did a crime.
it's this the official channel?
No one with that kind of experience would allow their IP address to be traced on a hack! easy to tell in the beginning he didn’t do it
Bro found your channel a week ago i am addicted to your content when is next one comming how can i connect with you.
new vids every thursday
I've watched less than 5 minutes and can tell you one plausible reason he was arrested. Hint- His past professional-careers..... Someone was looking for something... Someone very powerful!
Best podcast on the internet! Dude please add some visuals and make it movie-like, please. These are whole movies, especially for anyone interested in tech and hacking. @Jack
@Jack Rhysider
Nothing gets the blood boiling like a wrongful arrest story, as someone who also admitted to something they didn't do because they ignorantly thought it would work out later I truly sympathize.
He's got a Guy Fawkes mask! He definitely done did it!
Like all of 'us' I LOVE Jack's podcasts; this guy is SO knowledgeable, so well-informed, finds unique folk and successfully manages to CONTACT them, so that all of us can hear their stories, uniquely told by themselves, and can find out how they did things and how they experienced things and so forth... Snd on top of that Jack is just such a pleasant individual and he's just a so great pleasure to listen to cause! And that is simply be cause of how he is as a person; he is someone you can easily feel sympathy for.. and very intelligent. HOWEVER (or shall I say, BUT?), although Jack might feel he got no choice and HAS to do it this way, cause otherwise his subjects may not want to talk to him, I think he should not talk about a dude like this as if he's as innocent as a lamb. Undoubtedly the dude did a lot of questionable shit, and hardly any details of what he DID do are told us. However, even though this story does not cover 'proof', when one reads between the lines and applies some simple reasoning, one feels the chance that he in fact actually DID commit what he was accused of is so highly stacked up against him, it in fact is hardly possible that he did NOT do it. And in fact, if I understand correctly, he admits to breaking into their system and rummaging through it elaborately, looking up patiënt files and all, ...only to consequently deny that this led to this extortion attempt that was BASED on precisely the same files getting 'stolen' - illegally copied during (such) a computer break-in! Likely the case is that the Uruguayan police did a bad job, and bungled the investigation big time, omitting to gather ACTUAL proof despite having confiscated all his devices of which with nearly 100% certainty van be stated they were full of digital proof of everything, from all types of hacking software including what had been used in this medical facility case, traces of the actual hack, those patients files would have been on some device, and apart of everything that'd have related to this case, also stolen credit card information actually belonging to other persons. If they had done any research worthwhile they could, would have proven (OR DISPROVEN) with 100% certainty that he did what he was accused of and not only that but also they would have found proof of (the) other forms of fraud + theft he carried out as well. The 30 actual credit cards that most likely did not belong to him (again, the story does not say), and stacks of blank cards that obviously were only there for only one reason, also do not exactly paint this Alberto dude as innocent as a lamb. In short, I do not like it very much that the guy nonetheless is presented as if it was a fact that he was innocent of this indeed so questionable act of stealing all that confidential, private medical information of individual patients and using it for the purpose of extortion! Although not completely impossible it is very unlikely is possible that he did not do it - "it" being the extortion, cause he DID admit to breaking in into the facility's system elaborately and more than once. The story is missing literally ALL the basic facts that one would need to even be able to form any opinion on the likeliness of things having been one way or the other and even worse, Jack does not even mention WHY there hardly are any facts given that would have mattered most: what actual investigation was done, and most of all, what the outcome of it was ~ whether or not any proof in fact was discovered at all (and in what regards they failed to gather evidence that might have been there.. and why)! Strangely whilst he skips on laterally ALL of that, he does at a certain point mention that they in court DID present "an overwhelming amount of evidence"??! So, WHAT WAS the evidence presented there? A little reminder: evidence, that means: PROOF. Proof that someone DID regards he or she was accused of, beyond a shadow of doubt. IF they presented actual, factual EVIDENCE he DID do it, did do the extortion that would be, THAN in fact he DID it, and it would make no sense to start second-guessing if he was guilty or not. That is, well, maybe for the sake of getting this guy willing to corporate with making this show and of telling the story himself.. which is what all is like most of all content one could possibly put into professional shows like this one; it is like gold indeed, and in the end may be worth it too, I got to admit. There are two more remarks that need to be made in this regard..: 1) The ONLY possibility of him not doing the actual extortion (all the hacking he did do and admitted), the ONLY scenarios that could have played out in which he did not do it would be that his OWN computer/system would have been hacked (by ANOTHER hacker, by a 'competitor'), that HIS OWN system would have been outfitted with spyware, and that unwittingly the guy himself would have been observed WHILST he was doing the computerized break-in into that medical facility, and that that unknown other hacker not only would have broken in into their system a bit later on his own accord making use of the software he copied from this guy, OR they the other hacker directly copied those confidential patient files after 'our' guy actually HAD reeled them in himself! The unknown outsider-opponent hacker then would have used an email-adress that could be traced back to 'our own' guy - another thing he would have needed knowledge about, which COULD limit who the outsider could have been (but not necessarily), and play out the 'extortion' with that, so that now it would come back to this guy who they 'found' - identified, then raided, and in the end locked up for a short while. IF this all would have been so than IN FACT this was NOT aan extortion attempt, even though it was made to look like one, BUT in fact could ONLY have been a sophisticated act of REVENGE. In that case it also must have come from inside the hackers community - if there is anything like that.. This all seems INCREDIBLY unlikely though. And then finally remark 2: Of course there also was a bit of a positive effect that came forth of this primal hacking (of this system) of his... it brought to light the blatant lack of professionalism on the part of the then web master of the facility this all came down, their lack of 'shielding', missing 'OpSec'... it is pretty likely that they DID change the password and that it thus no longer is 'admin'! Would it be be cause of THAT positive side effect that in the end he only was jailed for 9 months????! Of course, he ALSO lost mostly all of the possessions he owned (nearly all of which must have been ill-gotten though anyways) and cryptos + cash, and as a consequence thereof of course also the chance of picking back up where he had left off when they took him in...
He focked up when he 1. Didn't lawyer up and 2. Confessed.
what's that song playing in the first few seconds? Doesn't say in the show notes :/
The judicial and police states are machines that create trauma.
Brazil currency is called Real. Just a little note from a Brazilian. Great video as all the others.
“Lawyer.” and/or “I plead the 5th.” (If you live if the US) should be the only things leaving your mouth to the police.
Ask police station and court to have ethical hackers as their casual consultant should they deal with another competent hacker in the future?
yeah a good lawyer would be able to arrange this
If I had access like he did, I would 0 all the bills I could / payments owed, anything I could to help people out!
So you would bankrupt the medical professionals so they couldn't provide medical care for anyone?..
Great job
Lá sombra had me laughing 😂
I got confused why it would be La and not El since I'm a guy I thought it would be weird to call myself a feminine word...
Alberto always has interesting spaces on twitter.
Everything this guy has every security IT guy has.
Why was Alberto Hill so quickly arrested? So proper investigation techniques and protocols...😬😬😬😬🤯🤯🤯🤯😳😳😳😮😮😮😮
That’s how it works in most places is guilty until proven innocent/ if you walk like a duck you must be a duck kind of mentally
now the story is interesting :) medical things is really big way bigger than big tech.
Yeah you cant admit to a crime you never commited, it wont ever work out right. Sounds like they would find him guilty any way.
It's the same thing as the war story's of respecting your enemies
Thank God somewhere on the planet the common law tradition still lives.
*sweats in having a buttload of old computers*
Music on the intro: Kermode · Tigerblood Jewel
Was Alberto ever able to figure out how someone sent a ransomware attack from his IP address ?
Since they just arrested him like that without looking into the evidence. The cops might have just made a deal with the internet provider to fake that shit. This sounds like a coverup in so many ways and Uruguay is known for being corrupt.
They probably didn’t have anything that linked him but bc he had to testify that he did so they left his gf and mom alone he was seen like he did it
seems like you've prevented a lot of normal people from visiting this medieval place with this episode😆
Tell Alberto to report these vulns anonymously
He was framed in order to be recruded for the bank heist !
The USGovernment made him do it..
🔥🔥🔥
Not sure if I should like the background music
its jackery cider :O
Piss poor police interventions....😡😡😡😡😡
how come the isp provided a link between Alberto's IP address and the extortion email?
they actually linked him to the crime
Alberto says its wrong - why?
you dont say anything else except "Alberto says its wrong"
someone should only be convicted of a crime if there is clear evidence, you say, not hacker paraphernalia
It South American most of them don’t even know how to make accounts in a website. I actually believe him bc I lived in South America and the the law doesn’t work at all they can put you in jail with zero evidence + anyone that has some experience with IP knows how to hide it and not get linked to an email so that shit it’s stupid
they lied to get a confession?
I think this guy living double lives
$13k isn't suspicious lol
I used to cash my checks instead of depositing them until I was 20. I had around $10k in cash when I was 19. Some people still prefer cash 😶
Modern day witch hunt trail. Is this man the only 1 with his knowledge in that country?? Doesn't anyone in Uruguay understand IP spoofing? 🙄 Does anyone in Uruguay understand computers and networks, anything at all? 🤨😠😡
admin admin ??? realy thats realy bad
Did he get his ISC2 status restored?
Brazilian "dollars" made me laugh every time. It's Brazilian reais, for anyone in doubt
The cia had a coup in Uruguay
Lit
Trumped up charges? 😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😠😠😠😠🤬🤬🤬🤬 And to be in prison, to be treated better than the outside...mmm!
ethical hackers are so misunderstood
that's why, besides blindly following idiotic dogmas, you should really look inside your intimate conviction before acting or not acting, in this case being the good guy and calling to a bunch of orcs a security vulnerability, a thing that should have never happen.
This man put his self in jail , why tf he admit this shit .