Nirvana - In Utero 20th anniversary interview /Dave Grohl And Krist Novoselic Share Memories
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Few bands ever reach the popularity, influence and status of the early-'90s rock group . Anyone who's old enough to remember knows that the trio from Aberdeen, Wash., helped pioneer grunge rock. But more than that, Nirvana became a symbol for an entire generation of ideas and popular culture, from fashion and art to our collective conversations about the way young people were making sense of the world back then, and how they saw their place in it.
Remarkably, Nirvana did all this in a very short period of time, from about 1987 to 1994, and only released three albums during that period. The last one the band released - about a year before singer Kurt Cobain took his own life - celebrates its 20th anniversary this year. The album, In Utero, is being reissued with some remarkable additions: There's a remastered version of the original record, a remixed version, a DVD, a disc of live recordings, a bunch of previously unreleased demos, and tons of photos and liner notes. - Hudba
Three fine young men from Seattle, they're thoroughly all right and decent fellows.
Don'tforceme Todisplaymyname Dave Grohl is from Ohio
It's a reference to the In Bloom video ;)
which aint even true. Dave is from Washington D.C. (I know you're referencing the in bloom video). just sayin.
@@Wildrover82 actually he's from Warren OH, then moved to DC later
Yes they were
Hating Nevermind doesn't make you look cool or make you a true Nirvana fan
Yup
Agreed
They had 3 amazing studio albums, 3 uniquely amazing albums
Three albums and they all sound different. I commend them for that.
@Steev Thompson so true bro they blended soooo well there vocals did… underrated and very over looked!!!
When Krist and Dave talk, it's like they were younger. Pretty cool.
I was gonna say this krist gets so happy when he’s with Dave they both act like little kids when there with each other
The act as they did in 1991
Yeah it makes me happy to hear Krist crack jokes, when after Kurt's death you can see the impact it had on him with a blind eye.
I don't get tired of this album. Nevermind I stay away from time to time. In Utero is so...full.
I remember hearing Kurt say in an interview that In Utero was the sound he always wanted to achieve with Nirvana, which was news to me. I now listen to In Utero with a new perspective.
Broken Alleys For me, it's Nevermind...It's so addicting, I've probably heard it more than a hundred times. In Utero is sort of like an occasional listen, or listening to only a certain songs...but Nevermind is like a ride, filled with ecstasy from the start to finish...Never a dull moment..
i love em both. such different styles of recording, and writing too for that matter, but it's still Kurt's vision and it comes through. If anything, Bleach is the one I listen to only sometimes, but when I do I go on a serious kick.
Nevermind is like candy. You can binge, but then you have to cool it. And -- they play the fuck outta it everywhere.
i get tired of In Utero and Nevermind, but Bleach is the one album i will never get bored of
20 years later dave and Krist still act the same during interviews. It just shows that these guys speak there minds during interviews.
Turtles lol
Growing up with Napster and Mix cds, at a very young age I was prone to song skipping. In Utero was the very first album I listened to from start to finish and it introduced me to a whole new world of music listening. I owe In Utero so much.
Ahhhh, the album. It is the next level of modern music artistry. The single is to the sonata, what the album is to the symphony.
dave and krist sound exactly like they did back in the day. when they joke and krist goes off about social things it makes me sad.
Dave’s voice has changed sooo much. He’s gained so much confidence, and he also looks like a completely different person. Krist sounds really similar though.
"Two surviving members" God I hate that. It makes them sound like an old 60s band.
I know, it makes it sound like Nirvana were sent to fight in the Gulf War or something
I mean it means that Kurt is dead, and they aren't, not that they are old, and still living. It makes it sound more dramatic.
That's because Pat Smear wasn't there.
Pat Smear was briefly in the touring band for a few months .. he's about as much a member of Nirvana as Jason Everman, and way less than Chad Channing :/ so tired of people acting as if this middling rhythm guitarist was a full-fledged member of the legendary band because he was not, and never recorded anything with them in studio. End of story.
if kurt's death didn't happen.. Pat would be in Nirvana till now. That guy deserve a respect.
they were stoked that steve albini liked them kurt was big on his idols as we all are on kurt now .great album def my favourite nirvana album radio friendly unit shifter my fav song on it :)
35:00. Dave laughing is terrific.
Its November 2023. Another decade just passed and we have the 30th anniversary of In Utero. Nirvana's super deluxe box set is available.
See you folks in 2033 when we will celebrate the 40th anniversary!
Great interview and comment from the 2/3 of this absolute classic alternative rock band and one the best raw rock records ever recorded this side of the 90s
I love the raw real sound of the guitars, bass and open sound of the drums. Interesting interview.
Thanks for uploading this :)
Thanks for this upload!!
I love this photo.
There must be more of this session.. where are they?
I do to. Especially Dave's pose lol
Kurt and his sweets. Always
That ice cream shall never melt.
Me too! A very old garage door and the garage is obviously too small for the Imperial (not sure) I also allways wondered who inspired Kurt to like early Chrysler/Dodge cars.
I like In Utero better than Nevermind. There I said.
So do I.
Many people do. Personally, I love both equally.
I can respect that. I can't respect it if it's based on NOT simply being an iconoclast, contrary or trying to go to Hipster Heaven.
i love both the same but i don’t even know anyone who prefers Nevermind over In Utero. Literally everyone i know likes In Utero better
Me too.
When I listened to this, it reminded me of when Dave and Krist talked back in the day, not like Krist usually in the present where he kind of reminds me of an "old man". And I don't mean that to be disrespectful in any way, just glad to hear the "old" band members talking.
Teenage angst paid off well, now he's boring and old...
In all seriousness, he's almost 30 years older, you don't stay a goofy youngster forever, you get older, wiser and your tastes and personality changes, thats life!
grief has a way of changing you especially when it comes from a very traumatic loss
@@superfurrygaz1 Not Dave though, who is still much closer to his older self, so your comment is not really correct. Krist now comes off as some kind of old, corporate/businessman type of guy. I don't know how else to really put it, but I also wish he still had some of that old Krist vibe.
God I love Forgotten Tune, I really wish there was a studio version of Talk to Me
I think there is. During the Nevermind anniversery interview, Butch Vig (producer) mentioned recording a song with a janky riff that Dave and Krist had forgotten about and didn't know what he was talking about. Talk to Me has said janky riff so if they can find it, they can release it.
@@bruh-gn5kc god that would be so amazing!
"Talk to Me" was on Outcesticide 1, I believe. An immediate stand-out track.
20 years & continues RELEVANT !!!
Kurt, I would love seening you alive !, and finding the peace that I found in my deepest hole of sadness,and in my mental turbulence,
NIRVANA !!
Indeed. Perhaps my favorite record of all time. Definitely the one that inspired me to grow a pair, learn how to play guitar and start recording albums of my own.
This album will never NOT be relevant. It also (oddly) never seems to age.
Albini worked with the pixies and breeders and they sound like the 80s to me, but in utero still sounds like it was recorded yesterday
Wow that Jesus Lizard song is so quiet.
That was at the height of their ambient shoe-gazing phase.
Shhh...wow, I felt that.
still harcore
Also the Albini mix of Heart Shaped Box is incredibly quiet. Thank God they went with the Scott Litt mix otherwise I don't think it would have been played on the radio.
Dave liked that quiet music.
"Those Weird Lemurs" was the original name of "Them Crooked Vultures."
Great questions from Bob about the recording process.
This is SOOO good!
"Power .... Miiiiiind annn soooul" 9:54 Took me back to the 90's European tour video, where the grapes were eaten by the oranges and vine was spilled. These guys are still friends and you can hear it))
if i were either of them, I would HATE doing interviews about Kurt, it just reminds you of what he did and it's still crazy to think
like repeatedly ripping off a bandaid before the wound has a chance to heal
Time goes by. People grow. The pain transforms.
If they, after 20 or 30 years, still had not learned to handle this, they would be in big trouble.
Dave said, they had so much fun back then. They are able to remember the good times and acknowledge the whole picture, even if there is a lot of pain in this too.
This is a normal process. You can not only think about the bad and the pain. Both have lived more years without Kurt than with him now. A lot of experience, good and bad down the road.
It might sound harsh, but life for them did not stop the day Kurt died. It propably felt like it, but at some point they knew life keeps going on.
All apologies demo sounds so Beatles to me
Ccr too
The way in utero starts off .fucknig brilliant. I love nevermind but always listen to in utero more for some reason .
I love their digressions...discussing the color of Steve Albini's work suit, then Krist goes on about car colors. Probably they had similar silly chats with Kurt.
The Courtney and the roast baking story at 35:00 hahahahah omg
Hilarious!
You don't bake a roast.. You roast it.
its funny listening to this after listening to the nevermind 20 year interview. The nevermind one is really polished, the in utero one is far more sketchy. Just like in real life!
I could listen to the last two Beatles and the last two Nirvana guys talk about making those records all day every day.
@23:59 (lower lip trembles) b b b b b but 'milk it' is my favorite nirvana song. after all these years and i had to pick ONE. it.... moves me.
love hearing the band talk , hate hearing the 'fans' and their murder theories
Wonderful stuff here. Goodness gracious
The demo of All Apologies has a CCR vibe about it. Proud Mary in particular. You can hear it with the way the rhythm guitar is playing. Very cool. I recall reading somewhere that Kurt was a fan of the band.
You're spot on :) Kurt and Krist had a short-lived CCR coverband. You can actually find a SB-recording of Bad Moon Rising on CZcams (just search: Nirvana - Bad Moon Rising (Cover from Creedence Clearwater Revival))
@@jesperjnielsen Cool. Thanks!
About a Girl... THATS Kurt's tribute to CCR, dude
@@k.t.5405 About A Girl is more of a Beatles vibe. The rumor is that Kurt listened to Meet The Beatles for 3 hours before writing it. (Though that is probably a stretch)
@@ivee3885 About a Girl is 100% Proud Mary DNA
"There are countless formulas for pressing flowers"
perfume / scentless apprentice 💕
My favorite Nirvana record 🎉
Thanks
I do wish Pat would have been on this record, maybe with some subtle contributions, especially on RFUS
The interviewer's a bit of a douche
Dan Johnston totally! I fucking want to slap him repeatedly
man the demo of All Apologies sounds like the White Album version.
I’ve always thought that Nevermind was like their Revolver/Sgt Pepper and In Utero was their White Album. The All Apologies demo really sounds like an Escher Demo doesn’t it?
@@travis6339 I don't see Nevermind's connection with Revolver/Srgt Pepper except it's kind of chronologically correct. I do agree that All Apologies sounds like an Escher Demo song.
@@MyComedyStore My thoughts on the Nevermind connection was that it was considered a "new sound" in the mainstream and because it was their most well known album.
Tom Cello fair enough. The original Beatles sound of the early Beatles was actually very unique. I’ve read Kurt actually listened to a lot of early Beatles albums like “Meet the Beatles” even though most people would think his grunge look and sound came from the white album era.
@@MyComedyStore Yeah, I've heard him say that Meet the Beatles was one of his favorite albums of all time, and that it influenced him in writing songs like "About a Girl". Even when I hear the flat seventh chords in songs like Serve the Servants and Heart Shaped Box I hear that seventh heavy sound of the early Beatles
Holy shit!! Demo of All Apologies sounds like C.C.R. Proud Mary!
Josh Martins It sounds like a Beatles song.
The beginning sounds like 'Stuck in the Middle' to me.
Yup proud mary
That demo of All Apologies sounds like Creedence Clearwater Revival. Awesome.
Sounds more like a demo of Floyd the Barber that sounds like Creedence Clearwater Revival.
"The stove is broke" lol
I wore Frank Blacks first solo album too back then it was a different time.
Hilarious they turned down Courtney's cooking!
Probably poised
How did All Apologies go from such a cool vibe kinda sound to metal crashing dark sounds?
Nirvana altered my whole outlook on music..... I'm still sad Kurt's gone.... but I can remember vividly the first time I heard nevermind, and in-utero
The record company tried destroying Steve - he almost went out of business because of the record company slagging him off to the press and industry so of course Steve was pissed
i’m pretty sure it’s because steve’s price skyrocketed and most bands couldn’t afford him
@@cobussy that’s not how Steve tells it but I’m willing to listen to your facts in the matter
@@johnmchugh8049 well it’s pretty much like i said, underground bands loved albini’s raw producing style but post nirvana he jacked up his prices then started acting like there was a plot against him.
i believe it’s the doc about failure golden in which they said they had paid a relatively fair price to record with him and enjoyed the product, but they didn’t return because after a certain “popular” band recorded with him his rates skyrocketed.
seeing as nirvana paid him $2M it wouldn’t be surprising if his rates afterwards were far out of the reach of a majority of bands that wanted to work with him.
i’m not hugely researched on the topic however, but i’d likely to guess the truth lies somewhere in the middle. maybe more bands wanted to do a non label involved albini production (nirvana paid out of pocket in order to have no label interference with the record) but his prices were too high and execs didn’t want their bands having full creative control, hence he’d start to lose out on business.
that’d make most sense to me at least and would account for both sides of the argument.
It's funny all of those bands just played good rock/punk whatever. Nirvana didn't popularize GRUNGE. The media didn't know what was going on or what to call it, they popularized grunge.
I had Nirvana on tape.
So do I too!
The car in the pic is a 67-68 Chrysler 300.
I was thinking it was a Imperial by the spaced emblems. I always wondered how Kurt got into Chrysler products.
I can't believe that mr. Novoselic, one of best bass players of the 90s, ended up with no band and making no music.
+Rafael Cabral Williams
He's been in loads of bands
J. I'm talking about a continuous successful project like Grohl's Foo Fighters
+Rafael Cabral Williams well now foo fighters are split up
His bass line to "Lounge Act" is one of my favorite of all time. Seriously, if you aren't familiar, listen to it again. Fucking awesome from start to finish, really makes the song move and bounce.
Yeah, it gives the song an Eastern European feel.
This is so weird because the drums on the 2013 Albini mix are totally buried under everything. What happened? I must be missing something.
Amen Dave, you can only sound like you.
3 studio albums like he said. Incesticide was a collection of different recordings.
Its radio shows, actually
Diogo Pinto I think it was a combination of radio shows, like John Peel, and actual recordings
That all apologies demo reminded me of the meat puppets a little bit.
Did they change parts of In Utero or am I just misunderstanding it all?
Strange Brew no change besides mastering which is an audio process of clarity and compression
Jump to 35:01 for the best part of this interview.
luv Grohl in this photo
god my username makes this worse, but dave mentioning def leppard in a good light makes me happy man
35:00 oh my:D
got the triple vinyl yesterday loving it but when i get some more cash i will get the cd plus dvd set next week it still is hard to think it is 20 years old i was 14 when the album came out 20 years it still sounds great and we all still miss kurt r.i.p.
Hate when bands release demos unless it's of some rare, unreleased or otherwise particular/peculiar recording. Kills some of the mystery. Love the remasters though.
I know this sounds odd but I've always considered it this way:
In Utero has the better songs
Nevermind sounds better
I know this sounds odd but I've always considered it this way:
In Utero has the better tits
Nevermind has the better penis
ive always considered it this way:
nevermind is a classic
in utero is fucking swag beyond imaginable belief (better than classic)
As a sound engineer, I could not disagree with you more
A la votre pour vos 20 ans NIRVANA
A la votre pour votre anniversaire NIRVANA
Albini Mix only
NOVOSELIC 2020
wait wait. 3.0-3.5=silence for Jesus Lizard Boilermaker. And then 26:3-28:10 SILENCE! for Heart Shaped Box studio version. SO DISAPPOINTING!!! copyright, shmoppyright. right is right. Otherwise, a verrry interesting interview. Jesper Nielson, thx so much for posting. 20th Anniv Deluxe Edition. I want it. Almost a day's pay, maybe January. :>)
Copyright the music po-po. Soundanious interruptus. My ears are still bitching!
I’m only 22 years old always knew and thought Kurt was cool and in the last few weeks I random saw “montage of heck” documentary and ever since then I literally can’t listen to anything else literally became my favorite band ever in the span of weeks. I used to think that any band as big as Nirvana can’t be good cause every super duper popular band sucks right? NO,Nirvana is the only band that is one of the biggest of all time and I fucking understand why.
There are many big name bands that don't suck; Zeppelin, CCR, Beatles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc. and there are many big name bands that do suck; Kid Rock, Justin Bieber, Brittany Spears, etc.
You've grown up in an era where mainstream music consists of media marketed, big name bands that exist solely for the purpose of making money. That's all you've known, so it's natural that you'd assume that all big name bands suck.
All we got was silence. They heard the sound bites. I don't want to re buy this all.
I bought it. The steve albini 2013 remixes are terrible
+Jesper Nielsen. You got it right. It was like another Beatles. Too bad that it ended the way it did. Kurt did say in one of their last interviews that he was glad that Dave was writing songs to help out because the pressure was too much for Kurt to handle. That's why I have doubts about his death & I hate thinking this way but some things didn't sound right about his death. Unless Kurt was just getting too high & started having some strange thoughts. Things were going to change. Kurt had new idea's & it would have been great to have seen what they were going to do next.
People with substance use disorders are about six times more likely to commit suicide than the general population.
www.psychiatrictimes.com/substance-use-disorder/link-between-substance-abuse-violence-and-suicide
@Kath mason: I’m psychic when it wants to be Oh hell yes it was but when a body is sent directly to the crematory, without a body, everything is just speculation. Regardless if family felt the police blotched it up, or if the family thought Kurt's wife played a part in it. I mean she really wanted that electrician to get to that house and put a security light & camera on the front of the garage........
But then again we have to remember that Kurt had also been talking some wild shit. Bad enough his band mates didn't want to repeat it because it sorta made them all look like they didn't care or they figured he was going to kill himself. It was a tuff time in Rock History...
@Kath mason: I’m psychic when it wants to be Well Courtney's own father thought that she had something to do with it so it sounds like crazy ran in her family as well as Kurt's....
Kurt was on ice also
ME AND DAVE ARE ALIKE 36:30 ... thats what i waste my time doing too
The EUROPA LUNA
15:35 Dave, are you trying to say Steve Albini drinks shitty coffee?
So it's true. Courtney said "if in Utero came out the way Kurt wanted it to, it would have changed the face of rock.." I believe after hearing this, there is another version. AND I WANT IT.
aj2674 They already did that with Nevermind. In Utero was more of a personal album, to turn off the jocks who got into nevermind, Whereas Nevermind was full of catchy poppy rock melodies to become "famous". I hate being cliche but it is genuinely a case of Kurt wanting to be a huge star, becoming it, and then not wanting it.
Who gives a flying fuck what Courtney said?
The drum sound on In Utero sounds different from other Albini stuff is because it was remixed by another guy after the label heard it because they thought it didn't sound radio friendly or commercial enough. The original Albini mix surfaced only a couple of years ago, I think. I don't understand why they didn't mention it. Maybe they didn't want to ruin their rock street cred or whatever?
you're mistaken, scott litt remixed heart shaped box and all apologies because the label and kurt supposedly thought the vocals were too low..nothing to do with the drums and those two songs were the only ones remixed.
'Penny-Royal Tea' also was remixed, to be part of an April 1994 single.
Kurt also said in the John(?) Savage interview he thought Steve was horrible as a mixer and was great as a sound engineer . ....getting the small room sound etc,..
The 'original' mix is actually a new mix Steve did for the 2013 release. It also had the original HSB and AA on it, plus the remixed Pennyroyal Tea, which is also on the black best of.
They cut out Nirvana songs (26:25) from a Nirvana documentary?! LMAO /face palm
Most likely done to keep the video from being blocked by YT... copyright deals and what not.
I had to make sure my speakers weren't tripping out lol right??
im fuckin pissed i heard this came out.. went to order and im 30 bucks short from buying it fml...
Where's the damn Jesus Lizard track
dave grohl liked the jesus lizard!!!!! great band
nirvana had a split with them....
this guy loves to cut off krist mid-sentence
I bought it the day it came out. Never mind also. I liked bleach and incesticide the best.
They could of had different pictures throughout the video...
Dude, I wanted to listen to Jesus Lizard too.... Come on
hey go away, go away, go awayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
"I promise not to sell your perfumed secrets"
"there are countless formulas for pressing flowers"
what a beautiful way to start the video
if only the interviewer were not WRONG about saying that Cobain took his own life
....
Best Nirvana album. Only the people that don't really understand music hate it.
The millions of album sold and cultural impact of Nevermind says otherwise.
none of the people that really knew him, thought it was murder.
Except the person closest to him - Krist. He killed himself, get over it.
Problem is, you weren't one of them. Neither was I
What does it matter? He's dead.
1. Nevermind (5/5)
2. In utero (4.5/5)
3. Unplugged (4/5)
4. Bleach (2/5)
everyone was so skinny 25 years ago.
Did we have no money and food back then?
they were young, poor (for a band), and had great fast metabolisms
@@kafkaseyebrows I could dunk back then.
is High Fructose Corn Syrup really that powerful?
Here’s a little tip - don’t upload a video to the tube with massive gaps in it
Wow, you are so clever. Thank for for posting such an amazing post...you rock!
min 19:03 Hare hare Krishna! krishna! LOL!
"Two surviving members"... It's not like they all were in plane crash and only Kurt died.
"He was not into manipulating moments, he was into capturing them." Difference between Butch Vig and Steve Albini right there. I love both but In Utero is just an untamed BEAST of an album. I'll never forgive Vig for making them record Lithium to a click track to keep it on time when the song naturally wants to speed up as it progresses :/
John Arundell You’ll never forgive Butch for making Dave record it to a click? Dude, what are you talking about? That’s his job as a producer. He clearly made the right decision as the song sounds great.