#starwars #swtor #sith Master Jedi and Sith Lord Fight Together Against EVIL- Ex Dark Council Member- Darth Ekkage Star Wars The Old Republic Discord - / discord
I find it hilarious how this sith lord comes out and she's all "mwahaha going to take over the galaxy" then gets put back in her cell within 2 minutes without killing/harming anyone. It's almost like you're just covering for the prison guards.
When everything is over: Jedi and Sith are siting in a Cantina, telling the stories of their journeys, while playing Pazaak and enjoying some high quality drinks with a snacks.
I honestly love this friendship, especially the mail that you get that essentially says "Hm, maybe there is a chance for Sith and Jedi to get along. I hope that day comes"
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 having a friend within the Republic is too valuable, same as the Republic troops that help you with Rathari. It makes diplomacy with the Republic easier which opens more options that may lead to better outcomes. Killing them serves only the Empire Sparing them is good for you Sith puts themselves first not the Empire, therefore true Sith.
@@efaristi9737 as a Sith I rarely ever got to work with Jedi nor recruit them. There was only one jedi I could recruit but as a Jedi you recruit a bunch of sith
@@GhostWarrior334 the only Jedi you can get as a Sith is Guss and the only Sith you can get as a Jedi is Xalek, no? I'm not counting class-specific characters like Nadia or Ashara. Plus there's Ramos, Hexid, and Star Fortress companions but they are available to both factions.
@@Anetron1 Guess is an ex Jedi Padawan or something, not really a Jedi, the only Jedi you get is one from the Alderan Star fortress. For Sith you get Lana, Xelak, Squid chick. Not counting player companions that return as they don't join unless that class is there, there was no real Jedi major character in the story that fought with you.
@@Anetron1 lmao sorry I'm having my morning coffee and saw I basically wrote what you wrote but storey wise there ls no Jedi companion that company's you just Lana
How I love a humble Light Sith, someone who embraces the ideology of free will and emotion. I like this character because it demonstrates that the embraced emotions, though can be considered selfish in doing so, doesn’t have to be destructive and evil.
@@aidenmiller3832 I wonder if Grey Sith could be a thing, too? The naturally self-centered and passionate Dark Side-leaning teachings of the Sith becoming offset to an equal measure by the choice to use your free will to do morally righteous activities. Jedi are about rigid conduct that can border stagnancy at worst, so replacing that staunch traditionalism with a Sith's openness to changing oneself constantly and evolve as a person could prove a most formidable concoction if ever it was explored....
@@DT-267K I mean if you had those ideal you would jus be a "grey jedi" lol... they're called grey "jedi" but its really jus the term for force users who dont commit to one side of the force... like you could be a sith or jedi and then leave whatever side and be a grey jedi, I wouldn't say that grey jedi is an order or faction jus a term, pretty much what you jus described is a grey jedi lmfaooo
@@ra.n9482 The Sith Code doesn’t. But it is inherently selfish in it’s philosophy. Combine that with the Dark Side, which is actively calling for murder, and you have the Sith Order.
@@kingofthings7929 Its more so an issue of inherent flaws in a belief of *true* freedom, and the accumulation of power. Freedom without responsibility is what yields the mighty murder hobo in all his inglorious greatness. The power, or assumption you have the power, to just kill what troubles you is peak freedom and lacks all responsibility. Though, that is just physical power. Our light side leaning sith friend here shows us that you can either get 1 gummy bear now, or half a gummy bear, for 4 days, and having 2 gummy bears is much more favorable when the goal is to have as much gummy bear as you can.
Timms: we need to strike together, I'll come sweeping from above and you- SW: circle from the side and come up from below Timms: um yeah...how did you know? SW: it seemed to be the sensible approach Anakin: that's odd, I felt a strange resistance to my combat techniques
This was one of my favorite missions, and the mail you get from him a while after that describes the shock the jedi council had over the friendly team up is amazing and one of my favorite mails in the game.
@@strategossable1366 Here's the text of the mail you receive from your Jedi "friend": -Master Timmns: -Subject: A Welcome Alliance --- " I have had much to consider since our alliance on Belsavis. Darth Ekkage is one matter, but a Jedi cooperating with Sith is unprecedented." --- " When I told the Jedi Council of our partnership, they chouldn't believe it. For hours they debated, wondering how the Sith who hunter Jaesa Wilsaam could show such restraint. Confusion and prejudice clouds their minds." --- " Your actions gave me hope. Through it may be decades before another Sith and Jedi join hands. I will ensure our alliane serves as an example for all students of the Jedi Academy."
One of my favorite facets of The Old Republic era- Some Sith are more than just genocidal maniacs. Many use the Dark Side but are still reasonable and actual people. I want to see more of that. Imagine seeing a Jedi and Sith working together in war against something akin to a Star Cabal 2.0 or Yuuzhan Vong on the big screen… that would be amazing.
In particular, it could make an awesome reveal, especially if the fact the Sith was indeed a Sith was kept secret. You have these two, already established as allies, and eventually there's a setpiece of 'You cannot defeat me, Jedi'. Cue red saber reveal.
@@cecilsmith2061 With an extra year of thinking about it, I still think it'd be awesome. Disney has on several occasions raised the (very valid) point that the Jedi are flawed. Presenting an actual deconstruction and balanced argument of both sides through their respective practitioners, concluding with the suggestion that they work better in concert rather than being allowed to fall to their respective toxic extremes would be wonderful. Demonstrated of course through an awesome action setpiece where Jedi finesse, subtlety and environmental combat supports and is supported by Sith brute strength, direct force and practical force combat. Even combined techniques - like the Sith using force lightning, which the final boss dodges, the Jedi on the other side absorbs it with Tutaminis and then releases it back.
you know what? Even though his actions are hardly any different to Icy's sith brother, I just can't bring myself to hate him or want his death. He's too pure and wholesome and exudes too many positive vibes. A positive influence on the Empire overall
Light Sith: we’ll defeat you with the power of friendship Bounty Hunter that comes along to help out: And this gun I found. Pulls out slugthrower scattergun
4:12 Always liked this bit with the LS sith warrior. Annoyed Bioware hasnt had this guy show up in Odessen, could have had Timmns and Norman Karr show up on Odessen with LS!Warrior asking for a game of Pazakk or something
Nomen Karr would most likely never want to associate with you even if your SW is 100% pure LS, in part due to his own wounded pride for losing to you, and in part because you "stole" his Padawan (Jaesa) from him....he may even hate you even more if he finds out that Timmns worked with you to prevent Ekkage from escaping, since that would be one more way that you managed to screw over Baras while Karr wasn't able to have any involvement in finally ending Baras, especially after how long he and Baras ahd been at odds with one another. Considering the darkness Karr was hiding, it's unlikely that he would ever get over it or "forgive" you for your actions. Timmns, however would most likely have at least showed up in person to hear you out, but my guess is that Timmns probably died during the 5 years that you spent frozen in carbonite, most likely trying to fight back against the forces of Zakuul, only to ultimately fail and lose his life.
felt it could have been a mission where the sith goes to the jedi temple or republic in an attempt to recruit members for the alliance or something, and all the jedi he spared or parted in good terms join up and you get to talk to them again.
@@Bluesonofman You mean Bengel Morr? Depends on what you do after you defeat him on Tython. If you killed him, he (obviously) won't return since he's dead. If you spared him (regardless of whether you spared him with the LS or DS options), he will reappear on Corellia. If you mean the woman? She shows up under the Emperor's control a bit later on (and you also learn that she was having a forbidden romantic relationship with another Jedi), as the first of the missing mind-controlled Jedi that you encounter, and you can either kill her or spare her (with the added option of exposing her relationship to the Jedi Council for DS points and both Scourge and Kira's disapproval). She also appears again during a later flashpoint, and she's clearly become mentally unstable since the last time you saw her.
I love how he turns his lightsaber on and off a few times as the cutscene begins "Man this thing's so COOL, look I've had it a while but every so-often I have to remind myself that I have an honest-to-Force LIGHTSABER in my hands."
*Sith enters the room* Movie and animated series Jedi: ‘Sith! Attack! They’re here to kill us!’ *Sith enters the room* SWTOR Jedi: ‘Yo, Sith, what up?’
My Sith isnt necessarily dark side, she's just pragmatic, neither too dark or too light. So she did kill her but still parted with the Jedi on good terms. Gotta give it to the Sith Warrior Story Line. It perfectly accomodates roleplay.
I didn't. He promised he access to the computers if I helped him get out of his improvised cell, and he destroyed them while you were the things needed to free him. Him being a FILTHY JEDI was enough to for me to want him dead, but we had a deal, and playing as a sith I took promises VERY seriously (because what's scarier than a sith who can make good on their threats?), so lying or double-crossing me gets you a ticket straight to the grave
I love stuff like this. I have a light side sith Warrior and Inquisitor, and honestly it's so much fun to have the Sith title but act as a saint. It's like A Sheep in Wolf's clothing.
sad and true. They set up a lot of things in the original story they can easily follow up on even if they need to find new voice actors for these characters. Sadly the whole time skip thing against Zakuul was used to justify them not returning either the result of them being killed off during the time skip in the war against Zakuul or having moved on to other things in life. The Imperial Agent double agent had a lot of potential for this, for example, where they could have brought back the members of SIS and have them join the Alliance if players choose to go the Double Agent ending path for their imperial agent.
@@georgigs Good willed and charismatic Sith, wise and intelligent Jedi and the student learning from both. Honestly this straight up sounds like the equivalent reshuffle of new Anakin, Obi Wan and Ashoka for the Old Republic.
I love how she delivers that stereotype villain monologue at 2:49, telling how things will be according to her, only to be told “No! You sit yo’ ass down!” one spanking later! 😂
Ya know I'm surprised Ekkage didn't just straight up murder Melicoste for straight leaving. She seems like the kind to call someone a coward and snuff em out, but she was probably grateful in some capacity he let her out
I can just imagine when the war 'ends' with a short truce at most, and this sith goes on a clandestine tour across the republic to meet and greet all of his many, many friends.
Probably because the Sith are straight up the villains, along with the Agent and Hunter, that every single storyline on the Imperial side is far more interesting simply because there's more room for nuance. Play every one of them, and every choice you can make has insane potential, simply because there's room for a wider range of responses vs the Republic side, especially the Jedi classes.
My Sith Warrior was a villian but I made him sort of lawful evil. He respected strength, loyalty and honor and hated cowardice, he wouldn't attack non combatants because it would be a form of cowardice although he would intimidate them. Anyway he worked with the jedi because he acknowledged him as a fellow warrior and let him live because the jedi showed honor.
I made both of my Sith neutral alignment focused on ruthless pragmatism, and though I eliminated Ekkage I also chose to spare this Jedi. He was a capable ally and had the foresight to focus on the bigger threat. It would have been a waste to kill him, too. Thanks for uploading your own version of events. It took me down memory lane.
This kind of Sith is what I believe one who had forgiven the Jedi and Republic for their crimes against Sith-kind, and sees how destructive and futile revenge can be would act This is the type of Sith who saw the Great Hyperspace War as a mistake and hopes to redeem Sith-kind through reforming the Empire In short, a pragmatic but cunning Sith, the most dangerous kind
Would actually be neat to see a sith and a jedi just casually meeting in a bar and talking about stuff. Like, not killing each other just genuine talk and managing to uphold a decen relationship. A fantasy i know but still.
Does anyone else feel like when they play through swtor as any of the characters that you end up following the light side more than the dark no matter which class story?
That’s because most of the Dark options are comically EVUL. I did play Smuggler Dark though, because most of theirs are pragmatic and sometimes make sense rather than just “kill for fun lol” like not leaving any witnesses or not letting enemies leave.
I find the best, most dramatic conclusion is to argue that she has to die, but then get the Jedi to do it. Or at least that is how I remember it happening...
Idk if it's a good idea or a bad idea to let the other Sith leave without any fight because I think that any followers of Baras and also loyal to him should die. If he were to live, he might do something bad against me. (This is just RP mindset XD)
I think the idea is that the jedi did something to the locks to make release impossible ("I'll fuse the locks so she can never get out.") Although yeah, there's always gonna be a way to get around a system so its riskier than just killing her. On the bright side, if that were to happen, the SW would be far too powerful by then to be stopped by ekkage lmao.
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Timmns doesn't raise the possibility of a LS Sith Warrior leaving the Empire to become a Jedi. Could even lead to an amusing reaction from Jaesa where she might be like: *"Wait, so first I'm a Jedi, then I become the apprentice of a Sith, and now I'm going back to the Jedi? ....I'm very confused."* :P
God, I wish Xi'thari was an actual character in Star Wars. Watching a light side Sith warrior Lord is incredibly interesting to watch. Xi'thari is an example to not judge a book by its cover.
i used to play a bounty hunter on SWTOR for like a month, i got him to level 30 and ur vids made me want to play him again lmao, jus kinda reminded me. good vids!
I love playing light side Sith. When you parlay with Jedi do keep the peace they're all like, "WTF? I don't understand you." It's so funny & the dialogue is great!
Playing a light side sith was really fun. I was playing a sort of honorable imperial soldier, bought into all the empire propaganda and stuff who found himself a force sensitive.
I play a mostly Light Side Sith Juggernaut, but I killed Ekkage. If she escaped, she could be an even greater threat than Baras. Parted with Timms as friends though. My Juggernaut likes Timms, but he also views him as something of a fool (a lot of the sass options making fun of him when he gets locked up and needs the Wrath to save him are hilarious)
The interesting thing is that Light Sith and Dark Jedi would be the right thing to do, as Darth Imperious you actually aid the empire way more than you do as Darth Nox, the Empire's Wrath is the same deal. And it remains true on the opposite side, Dark Jedi, whether Knight or Consular, defying the council strengthens the republic.
I love Timms so much, very underrated Jedi. Grey Sith and Jedi should not be foes, one of the greatest Sith was Revan, someone who tempered the darkness with light and Sith STILL praised him.
Just noticed this but am I the only one who finds it funny how our sith hides in front of a light with his shadow on the wall easy to be seen by anyone
I find it hilarious how this sith lord comes out and she's all "mwahaha going to take over the galaxy" then gets put back in her cell within 2 minutes without killing/harming anyone. It's almost like you're just covering for the prison guards.
Grandma’s off her meds again gotta tie those straps on her bed tighter next time so she can’t hurt herself
@@kevinaustin51 take my like you earned it
I love the perspective of the dude who freed her.
"OK so she's free now"
1 minute later
"And she's imprisoned again neato"
*"I'vE neVEr FaCeD a sTroNgEr fOe"*
"Alright grandma, time to put you back into the retirement home"
When everything is over:
Jedi and Sith are siting in a Cantina, telling the stories of their journeys, while playing Pazaak and enjoying some high quality drinks with a snacks.
Sounds like a setup for a bad joke. "A jedi and a sith enter the cantina..."
@@ArioTBP I know the punchline, "the Jedi says nice try but that's not how you earn a lightsaber"
Jesse in the background smiling at those two
that's exactly what i want for the end of my sith warrior xD
What if the way that this story goes was canon, a lot of stuff would be less fucked up and the Jedi and with may be able to go exist
I honestly love this friendship, especially the mail that you get that essentially says "Hm, maybe there is a chance for Sith and Jedi to get along. I hope that day comes"
It's really happen in Kotfe
Alliance noises intensify
It would be cool if there was an alliance alert that can recruit this guy
in the words of cicero "Best Friends For Ever~"
Refreshing to find a Light Sith who doesn't force Timms to kill her.
Well practically speaking it would be dumb and dangerous to leave her alive. Bariss is stronger with his sister by his side.
Not a real sith
Even my LS Warrior did that, there’s really no practical reason to have her live and you get to troll a Jedi a little.
Not the Timbs!!!
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 having a friend within the Republic is too valuable, same as the Republic troops that help you with Rathari. It makes diplomacy with the Republic easier which opens more options that may lead to better outcomes.
Killing them serves only the Empire
Sparing them is good for you
Sith puts themselves first not the Empire, therefore true Sith.
This is what the Alliance should have been based off!!!
on sith and jedi working together? isn't it the case?
@@efaristi9737 as a Sith I rarely ever got to work with Jedi nor recruit them. There was only one jedi I could recruit but as a Jedi you recruit a bunch of sith
@@GhostWarrior334 the only Jedi you can get as a Sith is Guss and the only Sith you can get as a Jedi is Xalek, no? I'm not counting class-specific characters like Nadia or Ashara. Plus there's Ramos, Hexid, and Star Fortress companions but they are available to both factions.
@@Anetron1 Guess is an ex Jedi Padawan or something, not really a Jedi, the only Jedi you get is one from the Alderan Star fortress. For Sith you get Lana, Xelak, Squid chick. Not counting player companions that return as they don't join unless that class is there, there was no real Jedi major character in the story that fought with you.
@@Anetron1 lmao sorry I'm having my morning coffee and saw I basically wrote what you wrote but storey wise there ls no Jedi companion that company's you just Lana
Darth Ekkage : How could you possibly hope to stop me?
SW : With the power... *OF FRIENDSHIP!* :D
:D
And these lightsabers we got!
By believing in the heart of the cards! (sorry)
@@pacifistattack Exodia, Obliterate!
By pressing my keybinds!
How I love a humble Light Sith, someone who embraces the ideology of free will and emotion. I like this character because it demonstrates that the embraced emotions, though can be considered selfish in doing so, doesn’t have to be destructive and evil.
Soooooo...just greed from full metal alchemist then?
@@astersworld6169 Yes.
Literally Grey Jedi behavior
@@aidenmiller3832 I wonder if Grey Sith could be a thing, too? The naturally self-centered and passionate Dark Side-leaning teachings of the Sith becoming offset to an equal measure by the choice to use your free will to do morally righteous activities.
Jedi are about rigid conduct that can border stagnancy at worst, so replacing that staunch traditionalism with a Sith's openness to changing oneself constantly and evolve as a person could prove a most formidable concoction if ever it was explored....
@@DT-267K I mean if you had those ideal you would jus be a "grey jedi" lol... they're called grey "jedi" but its really jus the term for force users who dont commit to one side of the force... like you could be a sith or jedi and then leave whatever side and be a grey jedi, I wouldn't say that grey jedi is an order or faction jus a term, pretty much what you jus described is a grey jedi lmfaooo
LS sith warrior makes you look so intelligent compared to the bumbling stereotypical sith but my favorite is a gray Sith inquisitor
I mean ... the sith code doesn't encourage psychopathy , only the harnessing of power .
I am shocked Star Wars hasn't explored this idea yet .
@@ra.n9482 exactly, power freedom and passion...not LoL KiLl eVeRyThInG
@@ra.n9482 Because the Sith code comes frome the Dark Jedi that split from the Je'daii and not from the Sith themselves.
@@ra.n9482 The Sith Code doesn’t. But it is inherently selfish in it’s philosophy. Combine that with the Dark Side, which is actively calling for murder, and you have the Sith Order.
@@kingofthings7929 Its more so an issue of inherent flaws in a belief of *true* freedom, and the accumulation of power. Freedom without responsibility is what yields the mighty murder hobo in all his inglorious greatness. The power, or assumption you have the power, to just kill what troubles you is peak freedom and lacks all responsibility. Though, that is just physical power. Our light side leaning sith friend here shows us that you can either get 1 gummy bear now, or half a gummy bear, for 4 days, and having 2 gummy bears is much more favorable when the goal is to have as much gummy bear as you can.
That was by FAR the strangest interaction i've ever had the pleasure of witnessing in the entire Star Wars medium.
Timms: we need to strike together, I'll come sweeping from above and you-
SW: circle from the side and come up from below
Timms: um yeah...how did you know?
SW: it seemed to be the sensible approach
Anakin: that's odd, I felt a strange resistance to my combat techniques
That disturbance was so strong that Anakin felt it centuries after this encounter! XD
@@EliteWarrior1026 Millenia. This is 3k years before the prequels.
@@megaman37456
Thanks. I wasn't sure of the exact dates, so I just went with the safer option.
Fuckin hell. 🤣🤣🤣
@@megaman37456 Love how this basically says The Chosen One just got his techniques roasted by a Light Sith and a Jedi from 3000 years before him XD
Every shonin anime protagonist: "I'd just like to say I'm a huge fan."
Everybody gangsta till the sith uses talk no jutsu
This was one of my favorite missions, and the mail you get from him a while after that describes the shock the jedi council had over the friendly team up is amazing and one of my favorite mails in the game.
could you post the text or a video of this, please? It sounds hilarious
Yeaaah the mails!
@@strategossable1366 Here's the text of the mail you receive from your Jedi "friend":
-Master Timmns:
-Subject: A Welcome Alliance
--- " I have had much to consider since our alliance on Belsavis. Darth Ekkage is one matter, but a Jedi cooperating with Sith is unprecedented."
--- " When I told the Jedi Council of our partnership, they chouldn't believe it. For hours they debated, wondering how the Sith who hunter Jaesa Wilsaam could show such restraint. Confusion and prejudice clouds their minds."
--- " Your actions gave me hope. Through it may be decades before another Sith and Jedi join hands. I will ensure our alliane serves as an example for all students of the Jedi Academy."
@@operatorchakkoty4257 I put the mail in the comments.
@@durinV thank you. I chose to ally with him on .y playthrough as well.
One of my favorite facets of The Old Republic era- Some Sith are more than just genocidal maniacs. Many use the Dark Side but are still reasonable and actual people. I want to see more of that.
Imagine seeing a Jedi and Sith working together in war against something akin to a Star Cabal 2.0 or Yuuzhan Vong on the big screen… that would be amazing.
In particular, it could make an awesome reveal, especially if the fact the Sith was indeed a Sith was kept secret. You have these two, already established as allies, and eventually there's a setpiece of 'You cannot defeat me, Jedi'. Cue red saber reveal.
@@lozm4835I wish Disney had the creative balls to do something of value like that
@@cecilsmith2061 With an extra year of thinking about it, I still think it'd be awesome. Disney has on several occasions raised the (very valid) point that the Jedi are flawed. Presenting an actual deconstruction and balanced argument of both sides through their respective practitioners, concluding with the suggestion that they work better in concert rather than being allowed to fall to their respective toxic extremes would be wonderful. Demonstrated of course through an awesome action setpiece where Jedi finesse, subtlety and environmental combat supports and is supported by Sith brute strength, direct force and practical force combat. Even combined techniques - like the Sith using force lightning, which the final boss dodges, the Jedi on the other side absorbs it with Tutaminis and then releases it back.
you know what? Even though his actions are hardly any different to Icy's sith brother, I just can't bring myself to hate him or want his death. He's too pure and wholesome and exudes too many positive vibes. A positive influence on the Empire overall
3:28 "Have my powers waned as I languished here?"
"Ma'am, you just fought in a 3v1"
"Yes, I should have been able to take on 5 of you."
That Jedi is always my friend in my playthroughs lol. I do kill both Sith Lords but always part ways with the Jedi as friends. Bless his heart.
Light Sith: we’ll defeat you with the power of friendship
Bounty Hunter that comes along to help out: And this gun I found. Pulls out slugthrower scattergun
Friendship and some slugs sounds like a hunting trip to me
3:25 ignites lightsaber only to deactivate it afterwards
This is the way
I mean, it does make that funny sound
4:12 Always liked this bit with the LS sith warrior. Annoyed Bioware hasnt had this guy show up in Odessen, could have had Timmns and Norman Karr show up on Odessen with LS!Warrior asking for a game of Pazakk or something
Nomen Karr would most likely never want to associate with you even if your SW is 100% pure LS, in part due to his own wounded pride for losing to you, and in part because you "stole" his Padawan (Jaesa) from him....he may even hate you even more if he finds out that Timmns worked with you to prevent Ekkage from escaping, since that would be one more way that you managed to screw over Baras while Karr wasn't able to have any involvement in finally ending Baras, especially after how long he and Baras ahd been at odds with one another. Considering the darkness Karr was hiding, it's unlikely that he would ever get over it or "forgive" you for your actions.
Timmns, however would most likely have at least showed up in person to hear you out, but my guess is that Timmns probably died during the 5 years that you spent frozen in carbonite, most likely trying to fight back against the forces of Zakuul, only to ultimately fail and lose his life.
felt it could have been a mission where the sith goes to the jedi temple or republic in an attempt to recruit members for the alliance or something, and all the jedi he spared or parted in good terms join up and you get to talk to them again.
@@gamester512 What happened to Dark Jedi Squid Head that was important to the Jedi Knight story line?
@@Bluesonofman You mean Bengel Morr? Depends on what you do after you defeat him on Tython. If you killed him, he (obviously) won't return since he's dead. If you spared him (regardless of whether you spared him with the LS or DS options), he will reappear on Corellia.
If you mean the woman? She shows up under the Emperor's control a bit later on (and you also learn that she was having a forbidden romantic relationship with another Jedi), as the first of the missing mind-controlled Jedi that you encounter, and you can either kill her or spare her (with the added option of exposing her relationship to the Jedi Council for DS points and both Scourge and Kira's disapproval). She also appears again during a later flashpoint, and she's clearly become mentally unstable since the last time you saw her.
@@gamester512 Yeah Bengel Morr. He kinda just falls of the face of the Galaxy after the Jedi Knight story line if you let him live.
I love how he turns his lightsaber on and off a few times as the cutscene begins
"Man this thing's so COOL, look I've had it a while but every so-often I have to remind myself that I have an honest-to-Force LIGHTSABER in my hands."
4:06
🔵 Enemies
🔵 Friends
🔴 “DOWN YOU GO”
*Sith enters the room*
Movie and animated series Jedi: ‘Sith! Attack! They’re here to kill us!’
*Sith enters the room*
SWTOR Jedi: ‘Yo, Sith, what up?’
My Sith isnt necessarily dark side, she's just pragmatic, neither too dark or too light. So she did kill her but still parted with the Jedi on good terms. Gotta give it to the Sith Warrior Story Line. It perfectly accomodates roleplay.
It really is tragic to think of what the Sith could've been.
Aside from recruiting Jaesa. She kinda forces you into trying to reform the empire... Or is just a murderhobo.
@@YourCrazyDolphin yea I just try to ignore her for the most part
Even as DS player I considered him as an ally.
I didn't. He promised he access to the computers if I helped him get out of his improvised cell, and he destroyed them while you were the things needed to free him. Him being a FILTHY JEDI was enough to for me to want him dead, but we had a deal, and playing as a sith I took promises VERY seriously (because what's scarier than a sith who can make good on their threats?), so lying or double-crossing me gets you a ticket straight to the grave
Jedi: "We will defeat you...with our friendship!"
Sith: *laughs in J. jonah Jameson*
Sith, seconds later in their cell: ...You're serious?
LS Sith Warrior: Deadly, I'm afraid.
I love stuff like this. I have a light side sith Warrior and Inquisitor, and honestly it's so much fun to have the Sith title but act as a saint. It's like A Sheep in Wolf's clothing.
A Sheep In Wolf Clothing. Never would I Hear Such a Sentence in My Life. Let Alone from Star Wars of All Things.
Melicost looks oddly like a Jedi with those robe colors.
"we will beat you with the power of friendship and these lightsabers we 'found!'"
I wish we could get him in expansion alert, but no. Lots of lost opportunities, same with Thana Vesh
sad and true. They set up a lot of things in the original story they can easily follow up on even if they need to find new voice actors for these characters. Sadly the whole time skip thing against Zakuul was used to justify them not returning either the result of them being killed off during the time skip in the war against Zakuul or having moved on to other things in life.
The Imperial Agent double agent had a lot of potential for this, for example, where they could have brought back the members of SIS and have them join the Alliance if players choose to go the Double Agent ending path for their imperial agent.
@@orrthehunter When I did the story mission on Taris I really thought I would later see Thana Vesh again. Its so sad to hear this lol
When nearly to finish the story arc.. I thought i got Thana Vesh.. But i just realize it was a story arc not a class story
You know I'd adore a show about a goodwilled and charismatic sith, a wise and intelligent Jedi and their student who learns from both of them.
Im sure all will , but disney...
@@georgigs Good willed and charismatic Sith, wise and intelligent Jedi and the student learning from both.
Honestly this straight up sounds like the equivalent reshuffle of new Anakin, Obi Wan and Ashoka for the Old Republic.
That was what the acolyte was originally but alas no more
@@willvermillion1025 Really?! Oh man...
@@georgigs They screwed up with Finn, possibly in part because of Daddy China disapproving. Modern day Disney can't be trusted to get this right.
I love how she delivers that stereotype villain monologue at 2:49, telling how things will be according to her, only to be told “No! You sit yo’ ass down!” one spanking later! 😂
I like how your sith justifies his light sidedness with pure pragmatism to avoid icky feelings and junk
Makes him feel more in denial and interesting
Xi'thari:
A powerful Sith which has the power of friendship AND trolling! :D
I don't know why, but getting to team up with Sith as a republic trooper or Jedi was arguably the funnest thing ever.
Red and green, it's a Christmas team.
I got randomly recommended this by youtube and now i'm obsessed by your old republic videos. Keep up the good work!
Welcome aboard!
i want a series with a jedi and sith as friends now!!!
The power of friendship, and this lightsaber I found
Ya know I'm surprised Ekkage didn't just straight up murder Melicoste for straight leaving. She seems like the kind to call someone a coward and snuff em out, but she was probably grateful in some capacity he let her out
She DID say that she would have attacked anyone but him upon her release just for practice.
One of the rare instances where Jedi and Sith team up
Thats the annoying part of this game where the audio is overpowerd by the music or vise versa
Hey. Having allies on both sides helps a lot.
Edit:How the actual heck did this comment blow up?
That’s why the Alliance works so well!
Agreed
It didn't
_"Jedi and Sith inevitably_
_Pathed the way_
_To the Ascension_
_Of the _*_Tyth_*_ "_
I can just imagine when the war 'ends' with a short truce at most, and this sith goes on a clandestine tour across the republic to meet and greet all of his many, many friends.
Yeah, I remember this one. It's one of the best missions for taking Light Side options for exactly this reason.
I love how cheerful he sounds when he starts walking off
This is the same energy as that image of the two beefed arms tough guy hand shaking😂
Jedi: Near...Far...
Light-side Sith: ...Wherevver you Are!👀🤣
I gotta have to save your playlist and watch through all the videos. This is binge worthy.
To be honest, I find the entire Sith Warrior story much more compelling on light side than dark side. I'm not quite sure why.
Probably because the Sith are straight up the villains, along with the Agent and Hunter, that every single storyline on the Imperial side is far more interesting simply because there's more room for nuance. Play every one of them, and every choice you can make has insane potential, simply because there's room for a wider range of responses vs the Republic side, especially the Jedi classes.
My Sith Warrior was a villian but I made him sort of lawful evil. He respected strength, loyalty and honor and hated cowardice, he wouldn't attack non combatants because it would be a form of cowardice although he would intimidate them. Anyway he worked with the jedi because he acknowledged him as a fellow warrior and let him live because the jedi showed honor.
You really made me play a light-sided Sith too now.
"You see? *singing* We can do anything by working with each other-"
"Just shut the fuck up, Jedi."
Damn I need to replay warrior, it's been years, I dont remember the vast majority of the decisions I made. I do recall making Jaesa fall to darkness
The POWEA of friendship compels you!
I made both of my Sith neutral alignment focused on ruthless pragmatism, and though I eliminated Ekkage I also chose to spare this Jedi. He was a capable ally and had the foresight to focus on the bigger threat. It would have been a waste to kill him, too.
Thanks for uploading your own version of events. It took me down memory lane.
This kind of Sith is what I believe one who had forgiven the Jedi and Republic for their crimes against Sith-kind, and sees how destructive and futile revenge can be would act
This is the type of Sith who saw the Great Hyperspace War as a mistake and hopes to redeem Sith-kind through reforming the Empire
In short, a pragmatic but cunning Sith, the most dangerous kind
She should've realized that if a Jedi and a Sith were working together that maybe she was on the wrong side of history 😂😂😂
Would actually be neat to see a sith and a jedi just casually meeting in a bar and talking about stuff. Like, not killing each other just genuine talk and managing to uphold a decen relationship.
A fantasy i know but still.
Or at the least have a Professor Xavier/Magneto relationship.
Does anyone else feel like when they play through swtor as any of the characters that you end up following the light side more than the dark no matter which class story?
That’s because most of the Dark options are comically EVUL.
I did play Smuggler Dark though, because most of theirs are pragmatic and sometimes make sense rather than just “kill for fun lol” like not leaving any witnesses or not letting enemies leave.
Nope I can't bring myself to make a light sith or a dark jedi.
Loved when he took the high ground at the beginning of the battle.
I find the best, most dramatic conclusion is to argue that she has to die, but then get the Jedi to do it. Or at least that is how I remember it happening...
Light and Darkness, joining forces to kick ass and chew bubblegum. Except they are all out of Bubblegum.
Idk if it's a good idea or a bad idea to let the other Sith leave without any fight because I think that any followers of Baras and also loyal to him should die. If he were to live, he might do something bad against me. (This is just RP mindset XD)
and making Darth Ekkage be imprisoned even longer is just delaying the inevitable
I think the idea is that the jedi did something to the locks to make release impossible ("I'll fuse the locks so she can never get out.") Although yeah, there's always gonna be a way to get around a system so its riskier than just killing her. On the bright side, if that were to happen, the SW would be far too powerful by then to be stopped by ekkage lmao.
I'm honestly kinda surprised that Timmns doesn't raise the possibility of a LS Sith Warrior leaving the Empire to become a Jedi. Could even lead to an amusing reaction from Jaesa where she might be like: *"Wait, so first I'm a Jedi, then I become the apprentice of a Sith, and now I'm going back to the Jedi? ....I'm very confused."* :P
the one jedi i cant kill no matter what I love him so much
God, I wish Xi'thari was an actual character in Star Wars. Watching a light side Sith warrior Lord is incredibly interesting to watch. Xi'thari is an example to not judge a book by its cover.
Returning an elderly sith lord to suspension in a forcefield prison and throwing away the key
*LIGHT SIDE!*
Nice to see swtor getting some love
i used to play a bounty hunter on SWTOR for like a month, i got him to level 30 and ur vids made me want to play him again lmao, jus kinda reminded me. good vids!
I love playing light side Sith. When you parlay with Jedi do keep the peace they're all like, "WTF? I don't understand you."
It's so funny & the dialogue is great!
This really makes me want to play it, but I dread to think how many fetch quests it will take to get through the story.
not that many all of them are story driven and you can stick to the main storyline qusts only
@@georgigs Well, that settles it then! I'm gonna become a Sith!
Through the powers of christmas and friendship we shall defeat all evil!
It's said that Sith Lord Togew was once a Grey Jedi.
This just goes to show not all sith were bad
Friendship is POWER!
We need more games of high quality like Jedi Survivor (Minus the bugs and issues) set in the Old Republic era. It would be awesome to see!
ok ive watched a couple of your videos and now i gotta go play this again
Love that dias irea in the background
Playing a light side sith was really fun. I was playing a sort of honorable imperial soldier, bought into all the empire propaganda and stuff who found himself a force sensitive.
I play a mostly Light Side Sith Juggernaut, but I killed Ekkage. If she escaped, she could be an even greater threat than Baras. Parted with Timms as friends though. My Juggernaut likes Timms, but he also views him as something of a fool (a lot of the sass options making fun of him when he gets locked up and needs the Wrath to save him are hilarious)
If you wait long enough she kills Melicoste in rage. Very funny actually
The interesting thing is that Light Sith and Dark Jedi would be the right thing to do, as Darth Imperious you actually aid the empire way more than you do as Darth Nox, the Empire's Wrath is the same deal. And it remains true on the opposite side, Dark Jedi, whether Knight or Consular, defying the council strengthens the republic.
Always loved Timmns here, probably my favorite Jedi in TOR (well next to top waifu Kira)
Be real awkward for a Sith to enter a Jedi academy just to have tea with a Jedi Master.
I'm going to beat you with the Power of Friendship and these lightsabers I made.
This is the power of Christmas!!!
I can’t believe Xa’thir beat an assassin with his Timmns XP
Light side sith in this game are peak fiction
Lets show this Sith the real SUPER POWER OF TEAMWORK! *Sonic Heroes starts playing*
One must fear the sith who use POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.
> THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
*My Little Pony Intensifies*
If only you knew the powah of friendship!
Damn it, you're making me want to play SWTOR.
Lol omg I can’t believe this is a real thing wish this was a tv series 😂
Are we the same people? Honestly, our characers doexactly the same things xD
I love Timms so much, very underrated Jedi. Grey Sith and Jedi should not be foes, one of the greatest Sith was Revan, someone who tempered the darkness with light and Sith STILL praised him.
THAT ARMOR THO
Lol the preview is perfect
Just noticed this but am I the only one who finds it funny how our sith hides in front of a light with his shadow on the wall easy to be seen by anyone