BMW M140i vs MINI JCW - A Proper Owners Review
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2023
- These are 2 of my favourite cars that I've owned. They're completely different, but still *Vin Diesel voice* "family", but which one is better?
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I have a JCW with the arm rest, one thing you might not know is when you lower it till it locks in place, you can actually push the button in to raise it to lower it even further so it's sloped down at an angle. Makes it much easier imo if you want an arm rest and still be able to change gears!
I will 100% be looking into this 👍
Yes i figured that out the other day too😂
Who needs a kitchen when you can cook on a b58 after doing burnouts 😏
Can cook on a B58 just ticking over. Thing gets HOT.
Give me the prize.
I've driven both, and the rwd m140i is always going to be the winner for me. Great video, I'm glad I stumbled across it. 👍🏻
Great video, recently found your channel after purchasing my first BMW, an F20 M Sport which I absolutely love! Keep up the good work 💪
I've been nearing the end of my Uni debts I built up from pissing money away, for no good reason. I spent the past year or so changing my mind every couple of months as to what car I would buy. A JCW is one that I never even thought about, so thanks for this. 👍
Felt good to be back in an M140i, even if it was just to film a few clips. Maybe one day I'll be back in a Bimmer 🇩🇪
You are still in one 😅
It's a blessing and a curse! I didn't think I was "bothered" by build quality until I looked at JDM 😅
@@marcodebortoli touchè 😅
@Adam get what you pay for I suppose. Massive difference between this and the MK7 ST I had.
Had both in the family, M140i went a couple of years ago as my daily and now we have a JCW Clubman which is my wife’s daily. It’s a great daily with the right options, and Sarahs is a 2017 so has good sound too. Run flat tyres ruin the ride but it sits lovely on the motorway when cruising.
Just picked up a F57 JCW 6spd auto. Really good tbh, happy to offer up as a comparison!
You read my mind when I saw this video come up. Mini or M140. Thanks for helping out filling my brain with information!
i was a coin flip away from a M135i and the JCW....would have been really happy in either. After a few test drives, an M135i popped up in budget and on spec. I went for it....and zero regrets. But (!) i still trawl all the usual places for a JCW bargain just in case!
love the content Luke 🤙
Watched all your videos why looking to buy a M140i, got it back in November and I love it, came from a S3
Love your vids bro.. especially on the 1 series as I’ve one myself just one of the slowest ones but still love it!
Loved all your M140i content, but shortly after you sold yours, I managed to cop one myself. Anywho, great comparison.
M140i has had me eyeing it for a while now. I think I’d prefer it
Great comparison. Not sure I’ll be changing my M140 for a Mini though. Even though I was recently eyeing up a genuine 1968 Mini Cooper which was immaculate.
Very good review on both cars enjoyed the video thanks
Thank you for the video! Was quite surprised as well :D
Mini JCW LCi does not have ZF8 as stated in video but Aisin AWF8F35 gearbox (also 8 speed)
My bad 😅
You have excellent taste in cars as all of your cars that you have had/have I have loved
Hi Luke, really enjoyed the video. I think obviously looking at the M140 in complete stock form it doesn't look to much different to a regular 1 series. However visual tweeks like what this one has had makes all the difference. Once you've played around with your JCW line them up side by side and then do the comparison. Guaranteed your fuel costs will be cheaper and with a simple map or tuning box you'll be pushing 300bhp which for UK roads us all you need. Servicing and running costs will be cheaper for the Mini and you won't need an sharp intake of breath every time a raindrop hits your windshield. I personally think for the money there's nothing better for the money than a JCW in terms of fun, prestige and economy. That being side an M Lite car would always be a guilty of pleasure of mine perhaps later on life!
Quality concise video! Nice to see some of my local roads too. I’d have to choose m140, mini interior just doesn’t do it for me.
Enjoying my mini cooper s! Looking for a remap soon though
Love that the giveaways are back 💪 big up the shipp
And they're here to stay!
@@lookship glad to hear it! Congratulations on the wedding btw, just became engaged myself!
My first Mini was a 2017 F56 S with the JCW Pro Tuning kit & exhaust. It was great. For whatever reason I decided to trade it and tried a few other cars. Fiesta ST, ND2 Miata, & Mk7 GTI but they all felt like something was missing. Finally decided to get another Mini. This time a 21 with the digital dash and a few more creature comforts & even without pro exhaust it's so much more fun then those other cars. I still can't place exactly what it is but something about the Mini's just puts a smile on your face when you're behind the wheel. It's not the fastest or the most well put together but damn they are fun to drive!
Interesting, I was and still am a big Mini fan but in terms of driving enjoyment nothing comes close to an ND2 Miata
Great video. My M140i went and replaced it with a Cooper S, with a lot of JCW kit on it 😂. Mine was for a porch extension 😕 Still miss it.
You are my inspiration as I do like all ye cars you have had
Loving the vids 🙌
Really good
. Love watching your videos
Cracking vid luke👏👏
I could do with a new mitt so the Gtechniq and some backup citrus pre-cleaner will do nicely! Was nearly a winner on a car giveaway but the detailing bits will be a nice small win 😅 Great comparsion mate
The 8-speed gearbox in the Mini from MY18 onwards is from Aisin as well as the 6-speed before MY18. The ZF 8-speed is longitudinal only.
I looked at the m140i but couldn't justify the £££. After a drive of another fast beemer and a pug 308 GTI, I went with the GTI; so far so good. Fairly economical when i want it, but great fun on the B roads 👍
Nice quick comparison vid… ultimately tho I do think that the M140i is the better car by far…
that’s why I have one 😉
Really want to try the JCW now.
I’m definitely going to using that glove mitt outside the manufactures intended usage 😏
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are we going to see some more karting content? love those videos
Got one in the works, but life is mega busy atm 😅
Great vid 👍🏽
I'm interested to see what your next car might be. Something more exotic like a Cayman or going back to old school 😎
I've just got this one! 🤣
Good comparison, would still buy the JCW as a secondary car or for my other half…
Those motors look clean👀
The blue one especially 💙
Good vid mate 👍
That M140i is the best looking one i have seen yet
What alloys was on the M140i?Absolutely love them!
I've driven a M140i and my girlfriend has a JCW. I must say i have more fun with the JCW then the M140i the handling of the JCW is superb imo.
2ltr vs 3ltr?
Class vid
I had a JCW a couple of years ago with the idea being that it would be a better version of the R53. I hated it- One of the biggest problems was that the clutch was ridiculously heavy (heavier than any other manual i've driven including 3x R53s). I'd consider trying an auto version. Can anybody let me know if all F56's have an extremely heavy clutch or was it just mine?
Love how customisable Mini’s are. Huge amount of aftermarket parts, but some definitely need deeper pockets. For me the cross spoke wheels are the best, just really expensive
Yeah they're marginally better I guess. Still not a fan 😆
A nice set of lightweights will be going on this I think 😋
Great video👍
You should check out Mulgari to see what is capable in modifications for the F56. The ICON 2 is a beast.
Will do!
Great vid
Made same move, went from a M140i to a Mini F56 JCW auto. Wanted something with a character and found M140i to have some odd handling. Had M140 for a year and JCW for 3.5, need I say more. Sold Mini last month and moved to a 430d GC. Needed space as kids growing up. Refined, looks good, shed loads of torque but sooo much heavier. Wondering if I made right move but think I’d have needed an M4 to get simular performance & fun factor from 4 series!
A lot of ppl asked why I didn’t get a cooper s and tune it rather than pay the extra JCW. Apart from the styling the JCWs have:
Different stronger pistons
Different compression ratio
Larger intercooler.
The obvious larger brambo brakes
Yes you can stage 1 a copper S to 210, but you have to ask, why would BMW go through the trouble of upgrading the engine as per above if mapping offered a similar reliable alternative….
I don’t think the 8 speeder is a ZF box. It’s an 8 speed Aisin box. ZF ones can only be fit longitudinal if I remember correctly
The Mini would be my choice for the type of roads with have here in England.
I live in the area and I literally see no cars like this around, B58's do sound good, but mini can imagine is like a go kart
Did the JCW ever get the DCT that was fitted to the S?
I'm glad you've found an acting role in those Burger King adverts on CZcams 😂😋
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You Whopper
Would love to hear your feed back of the jcw clubman. More doors, more power, AWD etc
Interesting....
I'd take that RX-7 in a heartbeat over those two soccer mom cars
Only gets driven when he's fixing it 🤣
Hi mate shaunas brother inlaw hear I had a Cooper s f56 for about 3 years loved it good car definitely res delete totally changed how the car sounds currently driving a leon cura 290 st would be good to see how they compare 😀
noice vid Luke
Just changed to an m140i and don't regret it one bit :)
so you went from a mini to a m140i.. I'm maybe thinking about getting a bmw.. i had a 2012 non s with 120,000 on it. it recently got totaled.
I would have to agree on the interior, i think the m140is look so boring inside, mini is so much more sporty/ less bland
I really would be honoured to have the chance to win the giveaway as I haven’t won anything off CZcams or anything from online so it would be a first time. Like they say it’s a first time for everything
I NEED the paint code of the grey wheels on the M140, I NEED IT.
Love my m140 but it's definitely going to get me banned! 😂
Hell yeah! 🎉
Thanks
No problem! Thanks for the £££ Paul. You're the 1st person to ever send a 'Super Thanks' 😃
Honestly I'm on a m240i right now but thinking maybe JCW for the next one for economic sake. How is the suspension, I've heard is quite harsh for a daily
Had worse, but yeah it's pretty stiff
If u change out the run flat tyres it's better, but still stiff.
What can you get stage 1 out of the JCW?
From what I've seen around 300bhp
I’ve just swapped my 370Z for a JCW. Really came down to fuel as the main reason but have to admit, as much as I miss the 370, the mini drives much better
Owned a stage 2 F56 JCW for over a year and the thing was absolutely hilarious to drive, blew a45s and similar hatches away on corners and straights.
What mods do you run/recommend? 🤔
Why do you say the run flat tyres are terrible?
Noisy. Grip levels are nowhere near a PS4 or PS5. Expensive to replace.
What wheels are these? Can you give me a link bro?
On the BMW or Mini?
@@lookship on the BMW mate
@@renowa4618 they're 763m's. Probably from a site called CS wheels, but they're pretty much ALWAYS out of stock.
I thought the ZF gearbox could only go in RWD based cars?
They're fitted to a lot of 4wd vehicles too. The ineos grenadier is probably the latest one to use it.
The stock M140i looks a bit poo; the rear diffuser is so bad. Mine was changed pretty quickly.
The facelift MINI rear lights with the Union Jack design are utter gash. They’re a lot of fun though.
Mini anyday for me ,my JCW is the only car ive ever had that isnt a chore to drive?
John kitchen works is a great wee car
Just changed my m135i for a cooper S and couldnt be happier. Wish Id gone for a mini in the first place and not touched the BMW
We can't get those bimers in the states 😢
Sad times 🥲
To be honest I do prefer the mini over the bmw but both cars are very good in their own ways
The speedo in the centre of the dash must take some getting used to 👀
It's behind the wheel like a "normal" car on the F56. Previous gen had it in the centre, which must have been hard to get used to.
8spd is by Aisin
My dad nearly had an M140i, and a JCW- ended up with a 124 Abarth 😂
F in the chat 🥹
Yo me quedo con el jcw tiene más carisma y mucho más divertido en curvas el BMW lo veo más de autopista pero contra gusto colores
From factory the handling in the JCW is brilliant 👏
Ok
F series steering feel and handling is such a disappointment in my opinion :/ I’m still salty about it if you couldn’t tell… 😛
I love My M140i, but i wouldn't even consider the Mini. Not only is it ugly (IMO) I don't consider BMW 4 cylinder engines to be all that great. I would take a Mk7 golf GTi instead.
Fair enough. Can't push a GTI anywhere near as hard as the Mini on a back road though.
You can if it has the performance pack with Quaife LSD
@Simon H definitely would make it more even with an LSD. I wasn't aware they had that option from factory.
Not sure you can compare the power of a 140 to that of a JCW. As they say there is no replacement for displacement. Of course a 6 cylinder is going to achieve more power with less mods, but as you say it's about the abilities, we don't live in the US, so while straight line speed is great, if it sh*ts itself in a corner then it's really only a 1 trick pony.
I still think the JCW is the original and best B road blaster out there. The mods to gain 300 bhp are simple and easy enough to fit, then you have a pretty epically fast car that gives you a lot of confidence.
100% with you on the Cooper with "JCW pack" vs a proper JCW, my neighbour has a 1.5 cooper with a JCW pack in the same colour, side by side there's not a lot of difference to see, they should have given the JCW something else to set it apart.
Next time make sure you end the video with a JCW Pro Exhaust video ;) Much nicer :)
Am here 0:04
Cheers Brenda x
Good video actually watch this one all way through m140i I deffo better than mini like. I like the design of the m140i. Entertaining content for once kept me engaged for full video 👍
@@brandonwatson7216 "for once" 🤣
Wait till I see you next sunshine 🤜
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Pretty neutral video, I personally think the Mini is a more usable car in theN roads.. driven a 450 m140i and its pretty safe to say you can't use all that power unless you wanna die. Ha ha, for my the mink interior is better those seats and dash and cool and different.. last thing who really does donuts in there daily and drives like tiff needle ( showing my age ) 😅😅 every day
Oh when I had mine donuts were a daily event 😆
free stuff please
Owt for nowt you
It still looks a bit weird to me whenever I see a male driving a BMW Mini. Not so for the classic one mind... Which is a bit weird too when I think about it.
"Girls" cars are the best darling 💅
Bmw all day, the Mini's look terrible and are way overpriced imo. Just a shame the M140i doesn't come with an lsd as standard. Great video btw.
I wouldn't necessarily say the Minis are overpriced, but for the money, you can get a hot hatch of the equivalent size for considerably less. On the other hand it's probably the 3rd best "compact" hot hatch I've driven, behind the i20n and GR Yaris and its by far the cheapest out of those 3.
@@lookship Pretty sure a brand new I20n is considerably cheaper than a brand new JCW once extras are added? Also the GR Yaris is a step above both so probably warrants the extra cost. I just don't get the appeal of a Mini, if I was looking at slightly older hot hatches it would be a Fiesta St or a Clio RS over a Mini. Just my opinion though, the main thing is that you love yours. 👍👍
Mini is better ❤
Mini is awful
I agree they look a bit naff from factory, but if you get the chance to drive one on a twisty road (when you can't see the chrome) it'll change your mind 100%
Mini Cooper = women’s car
Missing out on some mint cars if you think that way...
@@lookship get the m140i back pal 👍🔥