Why is Lady Tremaine Mean to Cinderella? | Disney Villains Character Case Study - The Fangirl
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- Is there a reason why Lady Tremaine is so cold to Cinderella? Could it be that Tremaine is evil? Or does she have a tragic backstory?
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Cinderella's among my fave princesses because of her kindness and resilience. She refused to be chased away by her stepfamily's bitterness and even went to the ball defiantly to enjoy herself for once. I hate that people say she went to nab the prince. It's clear in the animated film she just wanted a chance to meet him and go to a ball. After years of forced servitude? Hell yeah, you try to have fun.
I just really wish the movie would have let her decide one thing for herself. Her only real decision is to reveal that she has the other glass slipper, but even then she wasn't shouting that from the stairs in an attempt to fix her own life. It was more like "don't cry, here's another shoe," so the Duke would calm down, lol.
She is my favorite 😄
YES! She was completely progressive for the time, people tend to forget this was literally put out in 1950, and they like to try hold it up to our standards today
Cinders has so much heart and is so brave and resilient, she was always my favourite growing up, even if I only grew up with the third movie, not the original (I grew up on sequels and bootlegs lol)
@@TheFangirlWatches Never saw the remake and never will, but it sounds like that's what they'd do with Cinderella. Can't believe it made it a ton of money.
I actually would feel better if she acted more assertive to her Step-family.
Letting them push her around like that. In her own HOME!!!
Even letting that cat push her around. Yes I agree she didn’t let them get to her.
But you still need to stand up to yourself and not just.. take it. I mean what was that old lady and her daughters going to do?
Kill her...please
I don’t know if lady tremaine can be redeemed but I do think/know there’s hope for Anastasia and Drusilla if we believe the sequels. I love your videos ❤️
Yeah I recently got to see the sequels for the first time ever and it seemed like Anastasia was more promising than Drisella. But, they're both young enough that a big attitude change is possible any time!
@@TheFangirlWatches shhh no spoilers!
Well not so much for Drizella she takes after her mother too much but there is hope for Anastasia (opinion is based on movies Cinderella 2 and 3)
The sequel to Cinderella did show that because Anastasia became in love with a baker and she become happy
@@localtownsimp Drizella can change for the better if she really wants too. She may be too afraid to go against her mother & risking being disowned by her
Makes sense. I suspect Lady Tremaine poisoned Cinderella's father. And like Harry Potter, Cinderella needed to endure the hardships to remain humble.
Why would she poison him if he's the only financial income?
@@Ofinkandattics at this time different countries had different inheritance laws. In this country women of direct descendants ie wife or daughter(s) may have been able to inherit land and money if they had a bank advisor/wealth manager or a male relative like a brother-in-law, father, etc to help direct financial decisions. Cinderella being from the first marriage means that she could legally claim it all and also Lady Trumain could have used her husband's former banker to help and he caused her to lose all the money. This could have caused her to have resentment towards Cenderilla.
@@Ofinkandattics I'm with you. Lady Tremaine is the sort to commit murder, but she isn't dumb enough to kill her meal ticket.
It's not like her step sisters had it better with their emotional and psychological abuse by their mother.
Agreed! She forced them to do classy activities to seem cultured, but they lacked the skill and enjoyment to do them. I think the obsession with rearing perfect marriage material made the girls THAT much more resentful. It looks like all of them were locked away and repressed, leaving no room to work out normal social skills.
@@Parcha64 Totally. I cannot agree with you more.
And physical abuse in the Grimm version. When the slipper wouldn’t fit, the mother said to cut off part of her foot. A toe for one and a heel for the other. The wicked stepmother had by our standards the wrong priorities for her own daughters.
@@nrkgalt :( it really makes you feel sorry that they had no chance to grow up to be who they were.
My theory on it is that lady Tremaine married cinderellas dad for money, and them being hidden in the shadows as a sign that they aren't good people.
And when the father mysteriously dies soon after marrying lady Tremaine, she smiles... I think she killed him to get all of his money, her hatred for cinderella could mean that he left money to her as well as his wife, she spoilt her daughters (which left no more money in the end) and treated her horribly possibly to make her less desirable to men, which would make her daughters seem better, she wants her family to be at the top of the hierarchy and cinderella at the bottom.
I'm not good at explaining but if you understand what I mean I'm glad 😂
I think maybe she either kill her 1sr husband for money too.
She could be a gold digger
@@hazeeqrazak she ain't nothin' but a gold digger
Why didn't she just kill Cinderella off too just like Cinderella's dad?
@@melissacooper4282 Cause Cinderella was useful, why kill someone off when you can make them your slave?
I’m gonna guess how the murder was done……five bucks says it was a fast working poison like cyenyd(I can’t spell) or a pufferfish toxin
I always liked bits of the book Confessions of an Ugly Step Sister. In it the step mother wanted only the best for her unattractive girls and Cinderella was a threat to that so she made her do house work and was mean to her because of that. Not out of spite but so her less attractive daughters would be able to get desirable husbands of their own without the strong competition that the beautiful Cinderella (not her name in the books but a mean nickname) brought. She played it smart by making her do housework to dull her beauty in case she was ever in a position where she needed to show her late husband's daughter to anyone. Without Cinderella in the way that desirable life for her daughters would have been much easier to attain. And without her in the way she had full access to the wealth of the house for her and her family. She sent the servants away so they wouldn't catch on to the way she was treating Cinderella. That's not to say she wasn't a crule cold woman.
P.S In the animated movie I always had the suspicion that the step mother poisoned her husband. There was something in that evil satisfied smirk while looking at Cinderella crying over her father's death bed that made me think his death wasn't natural. I don't think that woman was capable of outright murder. But I certainly think she had it in her to subtly kill someone.
That sounds super interesting! I mean, if not for the narrator in the animated version saying Lady Tremaine squandered the money that would all make a ton of sense for the Disney version too.
@@TheFangirlWatches I would recommend reading that book. It is lengthy but a very interesting read with strong themes and elements. You could probably get more than a few videos out of it. But I don't want to spoil anything. In it the characters seem more human to me and fleshed out. Something we don't get from the good but world view black and white and flowery animated movie.
Is that the book written by the author of Wicked? Gregory Maguire I think? 🤔 Cuz I loved that book when I read it in HS.
@@biancabrooks280 The very same. I read them both in high school too. I liked it so much that is why I decided to give Wicked a try.
You make a great point in that there should've been more effort on the parents' part to really be a family, however, I would like to politely disagree on the fact that Lady Tremaine "didn't get what she signed up for". Lady Tremaine doesn't exactly appear to be a nurturing woman, exactly, and I think the bigger concern would be to remarry so as to be provided for financially. Otherwise, if Lady Tremaine remarried solely for her kids having a father figure, I think there would've been a longer courtship process that would've led both of them to realize that they maybe weren't a match with their differing priorities. Furthermore, she was shown as the only one who seemed to mourn him-- for the stepdaughters, it makes sense that they'd cling to their mother, and kids always handle grief differently. But Lady Tremaine was even... smiling. Also, "Cinderfella", haha!
Exactly what I came here to comment:)
I don't think she was interested in a love match or a father figure for her daughters, she was interested in someone to pay the bills.
I also feel like her daughters are more an extension of her than her children if it makes sense ? She would have wanted to have a very influential and rich husband and be "successful" as at the time succeed for a woman was managing to snag the man with the best pedigree and wealth. She didn't succeed herself, or lost it because she didn't have a heir and now she's trying to live the dream through her daughters. She doesn't even care which one will get the prince, she know they'll fight over him and doesn't care. She doesn't care if the prince will be a good husband, she cares that she'll have born the woman who married the prince and became queen.
Cinderella literally freed herself, she went to the ball, she hid the shoe and when an opportunity came she took it and saved herself. You missed the point of her and that's sad. You don't need to be violent or be assertive to be badass. They literally mentioned she was abused, but she still managed to leave on her own and that's cool.
Cinderella didn’t invite her step mother, step sisters to the wedding 😂😂🤣
I love these historical/cultural break down of the Disney princess can u do more like this
I am totally working on some more like this. I just filmed a neat one with Jack Sparrow's hidden backstory.
Your point about Cinderella’s gender being so important to the circumstances of Tremaines behaviour is so true. If Cinderella had been a boy then the whole village/town surrounding the chateau would recognise ‘Cinderfella’ as being the new man of the house and therefore, in charge of the family’s wealth and is seen as a new guardian for Tremaine and her daughters, so of course with a stepson she would treat him differently as she has to be on his good side if she doesn’t wanna be kicked out or the town will ask questions. But since shes a girl no one cares for her unless she gets married then she can be free of her stepmothers cruel treatment and she will lose control over the chateau to Cinderella’s husband instead, leaving her out on the streets.
Historical accuracy
I've always thought this! I just concluded it to her being jealous of the love Cindy's Dad and Mother had, and knew she couldnt have that with Cindy there so she mistreated her. And when Cindy's father died she knew she would never have that so she got worse
In the live action remake, the moment that got stuck in my mind was when cinderella forgives her stepmother. Right when cinderella left the house, the stepmother just slowly fell on her knees and what got me the most was her expression, i may be wrong about this but in my point of view, she seemed so angry that she failed to keep cinderella trapped but yet she also looked like she wanted to cry. I feel that cinderella's kindness and forgiveness probably hit her but also felt a bit of confusion in why after all the pain she made cinderella go thru, she still gets told by her step daughter that she forgives her. Idk, that part always got stuck to me, especially in how the stepmother was feeling during her last scene in the movie. What do you guys think?
I've never seen the remake but I believe that it floored Lady Tremaine that after her cruel treatment of her step-daughter Cinderella forgives her just like that!
The live action remake was trash it wasn’t faithful.
My mother was the evil stepmother and she ruined my close relationship with my father at a very young age. When I married my wonderful Prince Charming, I asked for a picture of Cinderella dancing with the prince as a wedding gift because that summed up my feelings on the situation (I didn’t expressly tell her that, though, I just told her that I liked it because the prince looked like him with his build and hair). 25 years later I’m still married to him, and it’s a wonderful daily middle finger to my cruel, abusive (now estranged) mother. BTW, my husband showed me how love is supposed to be given and expressed and it was the polar opposite of my family experience. He’s a prince in his heart and I’m grateful every day. Here’s to Happily Ever After! 🍻
Great video!
Anyone else getting some Ever After vibes from this theory?
Meee
Me too
I still believe that Lady Tremaine poisoned Cinderella’s father somehow
It's more than likely she poisoned Cinderella's father and Cinderella was supposed to been dealt with as well but survived and down played her status amongst the living in order to maintain status of them Noble house
I believe so too. I even believe that Snow White's step-mother The Evil Queen had poisoned Snow White's father as well. How else do you explain why we never see the king in the movie?
In the beginning of the movie, the narrator says that Lady Tremaine is "bitterly jealous of Cinderella's charm & beauty"; it's most likely the same for Anastasia & Drizella
Jealousy can harm and kill, I hate jealousy. My Star signs is Gemini our weakness is jealousy. Lady tremaine will face hell she isn’t a woman who believes in God for mistreating an Orphan like Cinderella. Exodus 22:22-24 “You shall not mistreat any widow or fatherless child. If you do mistreat them, and they cry out to me, I will surely hear their cry, and my wrath will burn,” Isaiah 1:17” Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause.” Psalm 82:3-4 “Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” Bottom line is Cinderella’s father married a satanist, not a religious woman. If her married a pious religious woman I think she would treat Cinderella kindly.
I don't think she's redeemable. She kept a child locked away until adulthood treating the poor girl like a slave.
Anastasia and Drusilla could be redeemable. Anastasia in the sequels and Drusilla if she was away from her mother and actually wanted to change herself
Lol "Cinderfellow" 🤣
There actually is a movie called Cinderfella. Jerry Lewis had the titular role
If Cinderella was a man, Lady Tremaine would’ve groomed her to marry his stepsister because it happened in other fairytales
It sounds like, if the ending had the step mother's wishes granted. Her daughters and herself would of just left Cinderella. Like a toss over the shoulder, goodbye. I kinda find that intresting and i like the breakdown.
They did in Cinderella 3
Could you please do a theory on the 1960's jungle book sometime? It's one of my favourite animated films
It is on my watchlist right now. I just got it before Disney Movie Rewards changed over! :)
I know you wanted to stay with Disney but I felt the same watching Ever after. The moment Cinderella's father was dying he said "I love you." and reached his hand only to her and not his 2nd wife and the wife looked so hurt by it. That scene alone showed how much he valued his daughter and not his step family.
That is my favorite Cinderella incarnation! But, yeah, in almost every version of the story where there's a father-figure, he doesn't seem to favor his wife or step-daughters at all - which makes it really weird that they even got married!
@@TheFangirlWatches Its my fav too! When I talk about it everyone says they like that one out of all versions!
I mean, for a 90s movie the female main character is really strong, she's not out trying to catch the prince, the villains are much more rounded, and there's flipping DaVinci wandering around being a coot! What's not to love?
@@TheFangirlWatches IKR! Much more engaging to watch. Even the prince had more than a pretty face. And what was sad is that scene when she said "Didn't you ever once loved me?" only to have her say "Why would anyone love a pebble in their shoe?" That cut deep.
@@TheFangirlWatches I loved Da Vinchi!
if ella's father died soon after the re-marriage then he wouldn't have had time to grow attached to his step-daughters. as sad as it may be he might not have had time [or the inclination for that matter idk] to truly love them as he did ella [btw that's my default for cinderella's name]. depending on how soon after his wife died that he remarried [which i imagine would've been 'soon' if we're going with the 'ella needs a mother figure' idea] he might not have felt emotionally capable of adding anyone, especially women, into his heart
Tl:Dr; while he's not blameless i can see a grieving widower showering his own daughter with even more love and all but ignoring his step-daughters for the very short time he had
Cinderella’s father did a mistake he married a woman who is a Satanist. Bible forbids anyone mistreating a fatherless or Orphan God would rain his wrath on them.
I always understood that Lady Tremaine had a reason for resentment. I blamed the father for Cinderella's predicament because he remarried and used his second wife. After losing out on your first marriage, imagine being taken in by a second hubby who uses you as a nanny and ignores you and your two daughters otherwise? She had no right to abuse Cinderella but I knew why she did.
Exactly! I never like Lady Tremaine being classified as a Disney Villain. She's the antagonist of the story, sure, but she's not like a witch doing evil just because she got annoyed on day. She's got some real psychological trauma and no proper channels to deal with that.
Cinderella’s father married a Satanist not a religious woman, bible forbids a woman mistreating an Orphan or a fatherless child! Lady Tremaine was a certified Satanist. Her cat was called “Lucifer.”
01:17 This is "Storge". One of the Ancient Greek´s _Aspects_ of LOVE.
Storge -> "Love of the child" : _"...the love that a child has for their parents, grandparents, and caregivers, as well as the love that a parent or other caregiver has for their child."_
Omg! I LOVE the Mabel top, I actually have one of my own, funny story when I was like 12 I had made my own Mable sweatshirt (same design and everything) but it was only for cosplay at some convention and my Halloween costume. It came out crappy but it was so super cute! And I struck it down the hotel hallways at the convention lol
I wish this shirt was a sweater! All the shirts I bought lately are tank tops and I do NOT have the arms for that nonsense lol. Your costume shirt sounds adorable though - I'm sure it was better than you give yourself credit for. Art is hard, never forget that! 💕
Contrarily, had Lady Tremaine allowed Cinderella to marry off to a lord or whatnot, she likely would have gotten more out of it than holding Cinderella back.
Your points on why Lady Tremaine was mean to Cinderella made sense. Yet, the way Lady Tremaine stood there and watched/started the bit where Drizella and Anastasia destroyed Cinderella's mother's dress wasn't a good part played. Lady Tremaine should have known that the dress Cinderella was wearing was the only thing she had left of her own mother and not have provoked her own daughters to tear it apart.
You're absolutely right, it was a jerk move, even in the most empathetic light. But, it still plays into Tremaine's need to keep Cinderella low while her lifestyle depends on it. If Cinderella isn't broken and has any shred of dignity left, she leads to trouble, and some people do terrible things to keep that trouble from bubbling up. It doesn't make it right by ANY means, but it still comes from a psychologically understandable place.
Something interesting with Lady Tremaine is in Cinderella 3, which starts post-Cinderella's marriage, Tremaine has turned her negativity to her actual daughters, she's just as shitty to Anastasia and Druzilla, so while she has logical reasons for being cruel there does seem to be an underlying issue with her personality in that she seems to just need someone to bully and doesn't care who it is. Whether her treatment of cinderella made her addicted to that kind of toxic power or if she always had that problem is unclear though.
OMG IT'S MABEL'S SWEATER ON HER SHIRT THE FIRST THING I SAW LOL
Understanding and agreeing are two different beasts.
Yes. Yes they are.
I don't know if you've read it, but I highly recommend reading 'So This Is Love' by Elizabeth Lim from the Disney A Twisted Tale series which mentions a good motive for Lady Tremaine's dislike of Cinderella. In the book, Lady Tremaine's first husband was a gambler who squandered all their money and was later hanged for trying to desert the army (he only enlisted to escape his creditors) so she is already quite bitter from the shame of her first husband's disgrace when she marries Cinderella's father.
Later when Cinderella meets her stepmother for the first time, she declares to her father "you have bought me a mother" which Lady Termaine wrongly sees as a spoiled brat (from her point of view) with everything in the world viewing her as an object to be bought. But Cinderella was being sincere about wanting a new mother - she just said it a little tactlessly.
This was an interesting video. Hmm never thought of that 🤔
Your theory could be possible.
Ah.. I never thought of that..
It's kind of sad.. in a way.
I almost feel bad for drizzla and Anastasia and Tremaine.. almost..
Doesn't excuse any of their actions.
Awesome theory
Excellent job
Cool shirt
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Your theory videos are always so fascinating. 💙💗.
Thanks for being here again Ashley 💕 I think Anastasia and Drisella would be totally different girls if their mother vanished off the earth. They definitely go off of their mom's bitter energy.
@@TheFangirlWatches you're welcome. 💙
I definitely agree with you, with Tremaine gone, the three of them could have been true sisters.
The princesses when like that and I hate how everybody assumes that oh they need a prince to save them there are some videos out there that explain that the girls were actually like amazing the princesses weren't just oh help me save me save me I need a prince they were they were more than that and I wish people would see it 😅
To be honest, Lady Tremaine is not even that bad of a villain. She is just greedy and selfish. A lot of step parents are like her; mean and seeming to hate the children of the other person's previous spouse/significant other while being selfish and rude. My step dad is this way.
She is one of the more tame Disney villains. I think if her daughters got married off she would have taken off with one of them and left Cinderella alone with her house to do as she pleased.
I think that they isolated themselves from him as well. Also Lady Trumain's daughters could have been less adventurous while Cenderilla was more adventurous and the father favored a woman/girl with an adventurous and curious streak. Also, the fairytales describe the Cenderilla character as clever and kind.
This is one of the ultimate Disney 🎥 questions out there!
I am pretty sure that Lady Tremaine felt that Cinderella was prettier than her biological daughters.
I liked the way you analyzed the Cinderella story. I felt I understood Lady Tremaine in a better way, but I still hate her character though.
"so this is love" my fav song of all time!
Your videos are actually AMAZING! The effort put into all this research is just top notch. And also your voice, so soothing!
Thank you! lol, it's so funny how I get this 50/50 split of people who either hate my voice or love it.
Baby Cinderella and step siblings are cuteeee
Hey I made it to the end!
Great video!❤️
I think it’s very good that you only base your theory on the information that’s certain for the universe you’re in.❤️
Yeah I try to keep most of my theory stuff contained to the relevant movie. People always want to point out differences in books or plays or remakes, but it's not the same world!
I feel bad for Lady Tremaine now. I understand her motivations and fears.
This is a great interpretation; it's a shame they didn't work it into the live-action remake!
I think that Lady Tremaine's redeeming will come after both Anastasia and Drizella leave her, realising how their mother affected them to be cruel. After Lady Tremaine is heart-broken and alone, Cinderella's kindness shall strike again and Lady Tremaine will finally learn how cruel she was. That's my theory.
Oooh that would be a nice 360!
Hey Megan! Thank you so much for the great theory! Your my favorite theorist. I started watching your Coraline theories about 2ish years ago and now I'm hooked! I also love your derps😁
Thank you for staying with the FANily Coraline! Eerrr... I mean CARoline. 🙃
I appreciate the historical breakdown and that makes a lot of sense.
What a beautiful doll you have in the background!! Great theory as always
Lady tremaine may have re-married for money? That’s how I always saw it. She was widowed/divorced and re-married Cinderella’s father so that she could live a comfortable life. But she wasn’t a nice person and when Cinderella’s father died she wanted the money for her own girls as she had never created a relationship with Cinderella and being selfish she hordes the left over money for the fine things in life and stead of sharing the wealth they made Cinderella their slave.
Your thoughts are very interesting. I love this channel.
Thank you! 😘
This was fantastic FanGirl!
Thank you Denise!
I really like your intuition when it comes to piecing things together that we might not have spoon-fed to us on screen. I don't think you're reaching or making assumptions but rather connecting the dots. I approve 😊
Thanks!
This is a really interesting theory that really touches on real-life issues so much. It's so much an eye opener to the stepmother's perspective, and considering that this movie ended with no hint of whatever happened to the stepmother, it really leaves up for so much speculation as to what she's doing afterwards. Either way, it does touches the lesson that 'do not conquer evil for evil, but evil for good'. If Lady Tremaine could have find ways to cope with her grief and anger, and just have treated Cinderella at least enough, she might have gotten a different ending altogether, or this whole Cinderella story could have ended so differently.
Yeah, that's the funny part. If they had been good to Cinderella and she had married the prince or another well-to-do person, Cindy would have helped Anastasia and Drizella arrange good marriages too, I bet! And for as much as I don't love all the classic Disney animations, they did leave a lot of room for the real world and left lots up for the viewers to piece together themselves. I appreciate that fact, even if this isn't my favorite Disney movie.
@@TheFangirlWatches I always remembered this film through Cinderella's perspective 'cause . . . why not? That's why taking on a realistic analysis on why the stepmother is acting the way she did really changes how I look to this film. Because the writers and animators planted all those little details for us to piece together, now I view this vintage film so highly for its possible realism. 👍 I always liked your theory videos, they just make sense! 😁
This makes sense! I love your videos!!!!!! Have a wonderful day!
I'm a huge Cinderella fan cause of lady Tremaine so I'm happy when people make theories like you and I like a good discussion. This theory open up a new perspective that I never really consider all to much so I am glad that I stumbled upon this video.
I'm glad you found it too! I think a lot of villains are just in bad situations without therapists.
she wasn't nice to her own daughter in one of the movies when she fell in love with the baker
Well, if your future was riding on your daughter’s spouse-to-be, you might be super picky for her too, lol.
Bringing her up as a widow twice over could open a whole new can of worms o.o If her first marriage was as uphappy as her second...think she could maybe be responsible for being a widow?
No I really don't see any reason to think that. She lived in a world that made her dependent on a husband, so killing him/them would NOT be in her own self-preservation interests.
I love this theory. It's also funny that you mentioned relating to the parents in disney films. So true! Everything is different when you grow up...0.0
Also, you have such a lovely voice! You should totally do some music covers (Disney, Anime...everything! lol)
While you were singing I pictured you in a sparkly blue gown. I do love the shooting star top though, it makes me think of "The More You Know". :D
The top reminds me of something Mabel Pines would wear in Gravity Falls.
Lady Tremaine is a monster. I don't know if she could become a healthy human with a normal moral sense. However, Cinderella is a princess at the end of the story. So the real question is whether or not Lady Tremaine can become a useful person to Cinderella. As Lady Tremaine needs to get her daughters married off, she will need to make herself useful to Cinderella. Lady Tremaine is out for the main chance, so she will adapt and get with the program.
Meanwhile, Cinderella can in fact use Lady Tremaine and her daughters. Cinderella by making her Stepfamily available for strategic marriages she can score points for her husband in the political power game. Lady Tremaine will play along with that for serious reasons.
I’ve always figured Lady Tremaine was a black widow. I’m seeing some parallels to “Matilda” and Agatha Trunchbull.
Sheesh. Lady Tremaine was very insecure of Cinderella.
I loved Cinderella since I was a kid. I felt so bad for her. Her Step Mother and Step Sisters made me SO MAD!! 😡 They were Huge Jerks for treating Poor Cinderella like that. She is such a Nice Girl she didn't deserve to go through all that abuse.
@The Fangirl Monaco isn’t a kingdom, it’s a principality (an area ruled by a Prince and/or a Princess.) I did a bit of research on if there were any more small kingdoms and I found Navarra (which existed in the 15th century). Maybe Cinderella lived in THAT kingdom?
It makes so much sense!
I love your hair and blouse.
Thank you so much!
I think anyone can be redeemed if done correctly. But I feel like if they did redeem her it would probably feel forced. It would be really hard to write a redenption arc for her. Especially in a way that felt satisfying for the audience.
I get where she is going from but I still think she should have treated Cinderella differently. Also I made it til the end
Oh yes she totally SHOULD have been better to Cindy, but understanding the why helps us to at least understand where Tremaine is coming from with her resentment and anger. Acting like it's out of nowhere doesn't solve the problem.
I always thought of her as the Krone Style a woman from a defunct Noble family and no male heir. To take over Cinderella's house by down playing her living after the incident that killed her father.
Interesting note there was no fairy godmother in the original town it was the doves that lived in the tree that marked her mother's grave but assisted Cinderella in regaining her Nobel status and marrying the prince. A catfight from Beyond the Grave possible ultimate Revenge for taking what was not hers to take.
Historical correction here🍎
"Itty bitty tiny kingdom" could still be Germany as Germany was only a massive Germany (as an empire, not kingdom) after 1871 and then still had all these kingdoms and principalities and what not in it. And when mentioning Monaco, a country that is also not a kingdom, one could count all these little principalities in Germany as kingdoms.
A king of Germany never existed, but a lot of German kings and dukes and princes did.
Love the shirt
Thanks! It is so my favorite shirt
Oooh, Megan. That's my favorite Disney song. I have no idea why, but it brings tears to my eyes every time. And yes, there is a full version of the song and it's spectacular. Cheers, girl! :o)
I should look that up right now! I don't think I've ever heard the full version.
In Jetlag’s Cinderella the step mother was goofy and she always made excuses to Cinderella to overwork her step daughter, but she was redeemable. Also I think the step mother in the Chinese Cinderellla was redeemable.
Well, she was the one that's blackmailing Cinderella.
Lady Tremaine is pretty much the same as Mother Gothel from Tangled, but whereas the second had to pretend to care for Rapunzel as while keeping her prized magical hair well, Cinderella´s stepmother just already had children of her own, and didn´t care about her step-daughter in all. Aside from those differences, they´re pretty much the same, however Cinderella got clearly than Rapunzel that she needed a way to go out somehow, and that what the ball meant for her, and over all got a stronger mind than Rapunzel.
I like looking at from new angles thanks for this idea! I made it to the end!✨
Now I'm disappointed I didn't choose Cinderfella for my drag name 😂
I mean I've always thought she was a black widow. She killed the CRAP out of Cinderellas dad.
This was the theory i needed
I'm happy to deliver for you buddy! 💕
@@TheFangirlWatches i can't wait to see what you come up with next
Someone commented that they think that she did it for money and that she also killed her husband because of the way she looked after he died if you put it into perspective of back then when you’re that old after two dead husbands it’s really hard to remarry would you change your thoughts??
I made it to the end!!!!!! I kee I would. I feel like this channel should have at least a million subscribers but for some unknown reason it doesn’t. Usually my favorite channels have at Least four million subscribers. This channel deserves to be famous! I will share this video with my friends and tell them to keep spreading the word.
Well hello there, new best friend! My channel lost a lot of traction when CZcams decided it didn’t want to spread theory videos any more (they wanted to get rid of like government conspiracy theories, but instead just went after any channel using the word theory) and it’s never really bounced back. T_T Thank you so so much for sharing though!
Lady Tremaine is the Queen of Mean.
This is random but I love your dolls in the background.
Lady Tremaine should have just remarried for the third time. You did a good job, but I must point out one thing... she wasn't a good mother to her daughters. They weren't ugly in the face, it was their attitudes that made them ugly. Anastasia was shown to be of average beauty when she meets her baker. If Lady Tremaine was a decent mother, then all three could have had happily ever afters. Even she... if she remarried or not.
Remember Lady Tremaine choose to be inside with her daughters. She could've come downstairs and bonded as a family. It was her choice to not drag her daughters down there to bond with their new stepfather and stepsister.
Back then i thought she was just a terrible person. But now in my 25, i can relate to lady tramaine man, If im someone who live in their time, i might have the same expectation for the men i married(s) and be so disappointed.
I loved this theory! I made it to the end! 💖 💖 💖
Am I the only one who gets a bit confused as to why they call the stepsisters evil? They were honestly just mean and it was only because of how their mother raised them :/ we see this later on with Anastasia
As I recall, (I have the movie on disc somewhere, but not on digital, so it would take too long to check.) It is at least suggested that the stepmother might have murdered Cinderella's father. So no redemption. Death row instead.
Also, technically, what we now call Germany, could still be called a small kingdom. Until Otto Van Bismarck, what is now one country was, at different times, dozens or even hundreds of smaller kingdoms and principalities. France, not so much. But Germany, was a scattered mess for centuries.
Also also, I always assumed she remarried because she already went through all of her first husband's money.
Really, I need to find my DVD and rewatch it. It's been too long. That, or get D+ tomorrow, and watch on that.
I always saw Lady Tremaine as an impoverished noble widow whose first husband lost any money they did have and whose property was entailed. She then married below her station for money, but businessmen have to invest their profits, so when her husband died, there was little available money to support them and either the business failed or his partner took over and gave the women little to no allowance. The women were forced to dismiss the servants and if you watch closely, you see they are remaking gowns they already have, where a ROYAL BALL should merit new gowns for the young women, at least. Cinderella's father wanted to marry Lady Tremaine for her title/connections as well as getting a replacement mother for his little girl, or why else would he look for a noble woman. This explains why the chateau is 1) not a working estate and 2) so close to the city. Noble lands are fairly far from the capital as the nobles are how a king controls the far flung provinces. The tiny kingdom might be part of the HRE (Germany), there were dozens of duchies, principalities, etc. that were under the Holy Roman Emperor.
So, poor Tremaine ladies, and poor Cinderella. They resent their fall in circumstances and that what money they do have comes from trade *shudder*. The house and money probably go to Cinderella between 18-25, so there are as few as two years to get Anastacia and/or Drusilla married advantageously. Honestly, if they treated Cinderella decently though, she would most likely have seen to their upkeep for a while.
In the book her father died in a war.
Can’t wait to see her in Bridgeton season four
I love Cinderella and boy do i not remember them talking about her father at the beginning of the movie lol. I like this theory though. It makes sense why Lady Tremaine was mean. I love her evil look she gives though, it's absolutely terrifying tbh. like damn.
I think everyone ever had an authority figure with that "look" and that's what resonates so well with Lady Tremaine being a baddy.
There is another theory that lady Tremaine poisoned Cinderella's father. His cause of death is not explained what happened...
I've seen some other people comment about that, and it's possible, but I don't see it myself. Lady Tremaine wasn't in a world where she could live alone. Even with money it would be expected that she'd remarry again and again and again to find a husband to take care of her. If she were truly evil, she would have made Cinderella's father an invalid so that she could do as she pleased and still technically be married, so money access wouldn't be an issue and it wouldn't all default into Cinderella's inheritance/dowery.
I love the bloopers! 😅😂😂
Happy to make you laugh lol
she's always been like that
You should discuss the succession laws in the new Aladdin because they make no sense
I love your videos
Thanks doll! Always good to see you! 💕
also could u make a video about anastasia in cinderella 3? I honestly love her and she doesnt get enough credit.
Cinderella really didn't want saved. She really just wanted a normal night to be a normal human being.
There are a lot of people who think Tremaine killed Cinderella's father. She did have an evil smile when he died.
you ought to watch the screenrant's take on cinderella. i thought a lot the same as you about her until i watched that vid and it opened my eyes. still agree with your lady tremaine interpretation.