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We shall see with the mechanic work on the c8. With family in the Chevy mechanic work, I’m sure it’s bound to come up how much it takes to pull out that beast
You’re welcome! I hope it comes in handy during the inspection process. Good luck on your shopping journey and I hope you’re able to find an ISF and join the crew! 😁
Great video. Just wanted to add that I just had the valley plate fixed on my LS460. It also is an issue with other models with the 4.6 engine so it's not iso to just the IS F which I know has a different V8 but it's a common issue across the board.
Great job with the video on identifying quite a few issues with our cars! A few more would be the window rubber molding that covers the chrome trim on the sides lifts up and degrades, requiring replacement semi-often. Also the roof moldings often get pre-mature paint fade and you end up needing to replace them (they come painted to match). Also the trunk buttons melt which requires replacement. Two interior pieces I can think of that wear prematurely in my opinion after seeing so many of these cars come through the dealer are the steering wheels and shift knobs wearing out. Two noise concerns often had are noises when going over bumps from the sunroof- which requires an adjustment and change of the sunroof seal, also a squeal when in manual mode shifting hard from 1-2-3, which is the drive belt that needs to get changed out (they go through them relatively fast, 60-80k miles). Shifter plastic covers also commonly break. One more final thing that some owners have issues with is a intermittent airbag light on, or just straight up a airbag light on the dash, without having had any accidents. There is a warranty enhancement for replacement of the driver side knee airbag inflator connector. I read through all comments and didn’t see these so wanted to add my 2 pennies !
ISFASTER Just added one more on that, keep thinking of them as they come ! Yes indeed, lots of cars through the dealer and me personally owning one have led to quite the mental database.. lol 😂
@@newera8388 yes I ended up getting one and this video was very helpful because it prompted me to find a car without these issues. Valley plate was done, control arm bushings replaced, etc. The subwoofer was actually missing from my car but I've replaced it with an aftermarket unit that sounds great. The car itself: I absolutely love it and everything they say is true (good and bad). It's fast, it's fun, it sounds great, feels great to drive - however she takes a while to "wake up" if you're driving normally and then put your foot down, and you do have to be driving it hard to get the fun noises... but for me, that's what makes it such a solid car to drive: all play when it's time to play, but sedate and undramatic when you're just cruising in traffic (except for the exhaust rumble that's there as a constant reminder it's not an IS250)
Ha! That said, I got smoked at the lights by a VW Golf R the other day. Apparently they took the rumble as a sign I wanted to race (I didn't), so I was in full auto non-sport and took off normally until I saw it "was on" so to speak. But the "F" was like "oh hey human, I got your throttle input, but I can tell you probably only want to go a little bit faster... oh okay, a bit more? How about that? Still not enough? Oh, shit sorry, I got you now fam.. BAAAAAAARRRRM" by which time it was all over. So if you want the taps on at a moments notice, you have to either floor it from the get-go or be in full manual.
@@Symphoniics I'm in Australia, so it was really just monitoring CarSales. I'd gone to a few dealerships, and even Lexus itself, and left my name with them in case one came up. They all said the same thing: best of luck, if you can find one, buy it! So I resigned myself to the fact I wasn't going to get one locally so I'd have to ship it from interstate. That means I was going to have to buy it sight unseen, which added some complexity: For me, that meant the car must not be under any kind of finance (because I can't go to the bank with the guy to make sure he uses my money to clear his loan). I have to have someone trustworthy look it over and take it for a drive. I'll have to get it shipped. And I'll have to get it registered and complianced in my state when it arrives. I really took my time following a lot of ISFs to see how much the seller usually has to drop the price before it sells: seeing where the market actually is, rather than what everyone's asking price is, so I know what the market really supports when I make an offer. Because of my rule about finance, I had to let one or two "perfect" cars go, but that's okay. I eventually made an offer on a white MY10. There's a great company running out of Queensland who are set up to find classic cars. They do a full inspection with photos, take it for a test drive and give you their recommendation on if you should buy it. They can also be there in person to handle the sale and take possession of the vehicle and ship it to you. Thankfully they also do sports and luxury cars, so they were fine looking at the F. They weren't especially cheap, but their service was great and it made the whole thing much safer. In my case, the big cross-country railway was flooded out, so my car had to be LITERALLY shipped, which again added to the cost. But the first time I saw the car for myself was when it rolled off the truck into my driveway. And it's been great! All that additional stuff added about 5-6000 Australian dollars to the price, but I had my heart set on an ISF so I gritted my teeth and paid it. I have had one setback in the year I've owned it: the starter motor died. That is a ridiculously expensive thing to fix. If you're looking for an ISF, try to make sure your exhaust headers aren't cracked in "the usual place" because the heat off that big V8 can cook your starter motor. That's what happened to me. Best of luck in your search!
IIRC the coolant leaks were really only prevalent on 2009 and earlier models. Toyota had a bad batch of sealant or something company-wide. The Tundra engines get coolant leaks as well in those years. Haven’t looked into other engines.
I’ve seen/heard of it happening to 2010+ models as well, may just seem like the 08-09s are more affected because those two years account for over 50% of ISFs sold.
Additionlly to usual faults (valley plate leak, cracked headers, starter problems etc) I guess we can add radiators that blow up to the list! Had mine fckd yesterday. 115 000km on the clock only, mint condition car. Luckily I catched it just as it started leaking after seeing fresh fluid under a car on shopping mall parking lot close to home. Pulled it out today and it's a major PITA for something that should be simple radiator replacement. Of course, never heard of this issue on them or had any car in generally that would have radiator fail so soon. Yet, one google search later reveals it's super common on them around that mileage. If your has more and it was never changed, you are running on a borrowed time. New oem one is up to 1000$, depends where you are. Full aluminums are like 2-3x more than for other cars for some reason (1000-1800$ here in Japan). I've uncrimped and removed top tank and surely enough it is cracked around inlet hose area where it's the hotest and whole plastic has became brittle.
I have a video on how to find a valley plate leak with a borescope. First indication is low coolant . A $20 borescope at Amazon was a great investment.
Great channel man. Feel free to link my vid. There is no sound but it’s a simple and easiest way to look for the valley plate leak BEFORE it starts leaking down the firewall side or down the tranny, etc. Lexus did a visual inspection and pressure tests for TWO years and couldn’t find it. A $20 borescope showed them to perform the work before my warranty ran out.
I hit the maintenance jackpot with my ISF its a 08 with 140k its running great but i had all the mentioned problems including starter malfunction, rear suspension, cylinder misfires, lots of stuff, good and bad thing is all happened pretty much at the same time around 100-120k the most expensive was def the starter save money for that it cost me $2300 for replacement at dealership good luck trying to find someone that will do it cheaper almost all turned me away! Its a fun car but I suggest trading it in after 130k or so btw ive been daily driving it for 9 years so something to consider and i do drive it hard too and dont hit any pot holes will bend wheels $800 a piece for each
Good video! I don't have a problem with my dash. Lexus is changing all my panels for FREE. They feel it would be a problem when the vehicle gets older. My 2010 parts came in today as a matter of fact. Took 1 week to come in. They will give me a loaner. It will take 2 days to complete.
wow was having problems with my ifs last night. drove fine the following day and when i get in to go home it wouldn't start! lights was working fine and everything. but it just would't turn over. so now i have it at my local mechanics to see whats wrong with it
I have a lexus is 350 and it was nothing but problems. I loved it at first but now i hate that fucking thing. The head cracked, the alternator gave out, the starter gave out, i was driving to work and the car started shaking real bad, i went back home, it was fine, 6 months ago it cranked 1 time and then nothing, i replaced the crank sensor, mass air flow sensor, ecu, and then when the car started to crank over it wouldnt start as if it wasnt getting gas but i took the fuel pump out and its strong. Now that i dont want the peice of shit people say its the immobilizer. Fuck that im not trying shit anymore. I know i just got a peice of shit example but regardless i would never recommend that car to anyone anymore.
Great video! Addresses most of the common issues experienced by ISF owners. Luckily for me I have not had to deal with most of these. Possibly cracked headers as I do get the ticking noise on cold start-up, but this is a mod well worth doing regardless of cracked headers :) Another issue worth mentioning that I have experienced and have heard from other owners, is a clicking noise on the front end when backing up. On mine it's just a quick click noise on drivers side front end, then immediatley goes away once car is moving. Possibly worn ball joint ?
Thank you. I’m hoping I won’t have to deal with any of these in the future as well. *knock on wood* I’m not too sure about the issue you’re having though.
Driver left side seat bolster wears out. The leather tends to crack. Brake caliper peels & cracks. As for the interior trim, avoid oil based cleaners at all costs!
Eli Gonzalez If you bought your car used, then it might seem normal. I bought my car new. In about year, I starting noticing what I mentioned above. It was really annoying. I’d rather dealt with this than interior panels melting.
From what I've read, the reason the IS wears tires more so on the inside is due to design. Lexus cambered the rear to provide better stability in corners and thus causes the tire to wear more on the inside.
@@ISFASTER oh weird... I hadn't heard of that issue before. Couldn't it be due to poor ball joint design and/or control arm bushing wear? Both upper and lower?
@@nathangoodman603 The 1st generation IS had the same issue. A adjustable upper control arm or aka "camber kit" will correct this inner tire wear issue.
rearward front lca bushing tends to go soft. but the inner tire wear is more related to camber change during suspension travel while track driving... I definitely destroyed my inner tires driving really hard, even with rearward lca bushings. The suggested camber adjustment fix is probably the best way to fully fix this. also getting stiffer sidewall tires seems to help quite a bit. the valley plate leak is caused by the corrosive coolant eating away at the FIPG, I did mine with permatex "The Right Stuff" still good 2 years later. The example you showed where its dripping down is an EXTREME example. Easier way to check is using a borescope. Run it down near the PCV hose and you should be able to see the red crusty stuff if you have the leak. Also, when performing the vally plate reseal. be REALLY CAREFUL with the direct injectors.... I believe there is a harness connector towards the rear, it may be easier to literally remove the injectors without unplugging them then shattering the DI injectors they are very brittle. also be careful that you do not roll the o-ring on the bridge pipe during installation, you may need a mirror or borescope or something to verify it is not rolled (you should be able to see it in the gap) it may be helpful to dip the oring in coolant as it can act as a lubricant, also get a new one from the dealership they are cheap and typically the old one is stretched in comparison to a new one increasing chances of rolling the ring. great video
My is F wgen i floor it it turns of a trisngle came on when that happened it beeps and the light flashes little ago did i sleep inside of it and it shut of now it wint turn on when it does it comes in for a min then it turns back off i dont know what the problem is
Hello there. Thank you for reading my comment. I am having an issue with my 2011 ISF. My rpm refuses to go up at about 5500 rpm on sport manual mode. Also it refuses to go up when in sport automatic mode (refuse to shift gears when at automatic sport mode). The normal mode looks fine. Have no idea about it, maybe you know why? Thanks so much!
SunshineState it’s been fixed. It’s just the silicone intake being a bit old and soft, so the rpm goes up, the air in it was too fast so the silicone intake shuts! It stopped the air to go in so there was an instant power cut at 5500 rpm. All good! When you guys get the aftermarket intake, do think about the silicone ones since it would get old and weak.
The 2012/13 ISF has a fantastic interior,with way better materials used and of better build quality than the German competition. The infotainment system is not interior. If you buy an ISF for its infotainment system,perhaps you should buy PS5 and glue some wheels on it.
Hey. What tire size you running on the rears with stock rims? I'm looking to go with 285 Indy 500s and worrying if it will cause fender damage or if it will be safe. Was going to go with 295 on stock rims but realized I am pushing it. 285 seems like the safest width upgrade. Just wanted to know your opinion since I've heard you also run Indy 500s
@@kevinalonso3395 well on my ISF mine cracked and the only symptom was CEL/limp mode. I'm not sure if that would happen too. If you're having issues I'd recommend making a post over at the clublexus.com forums to get some more opinions
Thank you for the link, I am going to order my part via akguam Lexus. I have question my ISF has full on exhaust PPE headers the B2-S2 code p-0157 keeps going on my scanner, I replaced the 02 sensor and found that the previous owner by-pass the sensors through the passenger sensor B1 S2 with some kind of relay, is their a way to completely bypass the sensors? Please let me know thank you.
I’m looking to buy a isf and I have a 200k 07 is350 that I’ll keep as a daily when I get one . Is this the only real issues isf have been having lately
Really wanted one of these cars as a Toyota guy and after seeing and reading more and more about these problems. Kind of turned me off on my search. Some of these are not "small problems"
Overall my car has been great for the performance it produces and very reliable especially for the way I’ve ran it on the track. Each car will have its own issues but I would not classify any of these as catastrophic failures.
Just had a crappy situation with my is350 couple weeks ago my starter died and i wasnt about to pay someone to 8-900 just to change it so i attacked it my self and let me tell you it was one hell of a B!tch to change 😂😂
ISFASTER now the other issue for my wifes is250 we wont be able to do the recall for her car because the original owners didnt initiate the order before they sold it to a used auto dealer so now we will be stuck with a sticky dash and worn door panels now
I have the ticking sound on mine upon cold start up so most likely cracked header. Anybody have any experience with this and advice for the least expensive route?
ISFASTER Update: Passenger side header is confirmed cracked. My mechanic is recommending replacing it with an OEM header. $1700 part, $2600 with labor. Your thoughts?
Hi buddy, my 2009 ISF fitted with 225/40r19 front and 255/35r19 from factory. Now I’m gonna get new tires, is new set up 245/35 front and 275/30 rear good? Any safety issues?
This is the first time I’ve heard those problems occurred due to the coolant. My understanding of the valley plate leak is the sealant used forms small cracks due to heat and the coolant leaks through the cracks and out.
@@ISFASTER so it's envitable? No matter how carefull you're it will happen? How many miles before it happens? I'm looking to buy a 2008 ISF from japan with great condition and around 40k to 60k km.
It happens erratically, some people have got it at 30K miles, others at 150K miles. Some people have had their cars for 11 years and 100K+ miles with no issues. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@ISFASTER I'm only 17 and still in school :( But once I start working I'm gonna get a is350 or ls400 first then save up for an isf, I never really gave my attention to the because i already had a gtr32 in mind but my has a isf and he took me for a ride and damn that thing is fast plus it's reliable.
All cars have their share of problems and none of these are catastrophic. I believe them to be less worrisome than some of the issues the competitors have shown during their lifetime.
Dude your the only one having problems with the IS F 😂 since beat that car like is a truck doing drag races nonstop you lucky you haven’t blown up ur engine
@@ISFASTER I know a car can’t be perfect they will have simple problems like Alternator , Spark plugs and Valve seals stuff like that but man you gonna definitely brake a car that last forever 😂
I purchased a Toyota platinum warranty and it's paid for itself already. Got everything you metioned replaced except valley plate. Didn't get that issue. Still have 3 years or 40k miles left on the warranty.
@@ISFASTER You didn't get my point, that is exactly what I tried to say. Don't blame the car, blame sloppy maintenance. And that includes the leather. Keep it in good condition and it will outlive you.
Good Blog thanks; hope you will never have the problem as seen in this thread:when performing drag races performancedrive.com.au/crash-3000hp-lexus-isf-by-ekanooracing-takes-off-like-a-plane-1923/ (check the video)
So an expensive internal engine problem lol 416hp for a $25,000 car with a lot of miles. Just get a camaro or mustang for less money and the engines are reliable. No ls3 has a single huge defect like that valley issue. Only thing that happens on an ls3 is maybe the oil pump. Pushrod v8s have far less parts than these 32 valve quad cam engines
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love that none of these are too detrimental to the vehicle, makes me more confident in wanting to buy one!
Yes, nothing catastrophic.
My Toyota mechanic, who is also very experienced in working on Lexus, said all of the problems you mentioned can easily be fixed with a C8 Corvette.
This is great! 🤣🤣🤣
Lol a Chevy is a chevy.
C8 hmm will.it last like toyots do?does it r will hold the resale value toyotas hold..ans..no no no toyota for ever king toyota..
We shall see with the mechanic work on the c8. With family in the Chevy mechanic work, I’m sure it’s bound to come up how much it takes to pull out that beast
Come on guys you know the fix is coming to this channel sooner or later.
Great video, thanks. I’m looking at buying a 2010 ISF soon and will make sure I emphasise these points for a pre-sale inspection.
You’re welcome! I hope it comes in handy during the inspection process. Good luck on your shopping journey and I hope you’re able to find an ISF and join the crew! 😁
Currently shopping for an IS F , thanks for the heads up man 👍🏼
Glad to help!
Cracked headers? Upgrade headers :D
Cracked Dash? Tint your windows
@@FindingCj oh god my TL and cracked dash goes hand in hand, I just put a dash overlay on and called it a day
@@va2_lee 😂😂
My biggest problem is I don't own an ISF yet, but I have IS350. 😁
😂😂😂👍🏻
Same
honestly i settled with the IS 350 and boy oh boy.
Такая же херня.
Great video. Just wanted to add that I just had the valley plate fixed on my LS460. It also is an issue with other models with the 4.6 engine so it's not iso to just the IS F which I know has a different V8 but it's a common issue across the board.
Thanks for the input! Seems like this is happening way too often across their V8 lineup and Toyota should offer a recall to fix this issue.
different v8 same platform
Thank you for this very informative video man It’s extremely helpful for myself and other isF Owners. 🙏🙏🙏
You’re welcome! Glad I can help out.
Great job with the video on identifying quite a few issues with our cars! A few more would be the window rubber molding that covers the chrome trim on the sides lifts up and degrades, requiring replacement semi-often. Also the roof moldings often get pre-mature paint fade and you end up needing to replace them (they come painted to match). Also the trunk buttons melt which requires replacement. Two interior pieces I can think of that wear prematurely in my opinion after seeing so many of these cars come through the dealer are the steering wheels and shift knobs wearing out. Two noise concerns often had are noises when going over bumps from the sunroof- which requires an adjustment and change of the sunroof seal, also a squeal when in manual mode shifting hard from 1-2-3, which is the drive belt that needs to get changed out (they go through them relatively fast, 60-80k miles). Shifter plastic covers also commonly break. One more final thing that some owners have issues with is a intermittent airbag light on, or just straight up a airbag light on the dash, without having had any accidents. There is a warranty enhancement for replacement of the driver side knee airbag inflator connector. I read through all comments and didn’t see these so wanted to add my 2 pennies !
Wow! I had not heard about some of these before. Sounds like you work at Lexus and have seen these first hand? Thanks for adding to the list!
ISFASTER Just added one more on that, keep thinking of them as they come ! Yes indeed, lots of cars through the dealer and me personally owning one have led to quite the mental database.. lol 😂
Also, expiration date for dash/door panel enhancement is 3/31/21, expiration date for air bag connector is 6/12/20 .
"Make that sub blow" got me laughing, great video and very informative. Currently in the market for an ISF, and found this video helpful.
Glad to hear it helped! Good luck on your search! 👍🏻
Gas vanishes to fast.🐱🏍
That tends to happen! 😂
11.8 MPG for me
You’re driving correctly! 😎
Its a v8 not a l.5 litter engine.wat u think it wont burn gas wen u let lose the beast..still.toyota forever go king toyota..
Lol just talking about the laughs nothing serious doood
Thank you for taking your time to make this video bro and have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year : )
You’re welcome! Merry Christmas to you as well.
In the market for one. Thanks for the info!
You’re welcome, hope it helps!
Great info, currently looking for an isf, I'll keep those issues in mind.
Happy shopping!
Considering that isf is a performance car these issues are not that bad and if you are good with your hands it could be done fairly inexpensively.
Thanks, this is really comprehensive. Considering an ISF and want to know what I'm up for.
if u got one, what do you think? i’m looking for one atm
@@newera8388 yes I ended up getting one and this video was very helpful because it prompted me to find a car without these issues. Valley plate was done, control arm bushings replaced, etc. The subwoofer was actually missing from my car but I've replaced it with an aftermarket unit that sounds great. The car itself: I absolutely love it and everything they say is true (good and bad). It's fast, it's fun, it sounds great, feels great to drive - however she takes a while to "wake up" if you're driving normally and then put your foot down, and you do have to be driving it hard to get the fun noises... but for me, that's what makes it such a solid car to drive: all play when it's time to play, but sedate and undramatic when you're just cruising in traffic (except for the exhaust rumble that's there as a constant reminder it's not an IS250)
Ha! That said, I got smoked at the lights by a VW Golf R the other day. Apparently they took the rumble as a sign I wanted to race (I didn't), so I was in full auto non-sport and took off normally until I saw it "was on" so to speak. But the "F" was like "oh hey human, I got your throttle input, but I can tell you probably only want to go a little bit faster... oh okay, a bit more? How about that? Still not enough? Oh, shit sorry, I got you now fam.. BAAAAAAARRRRM" by which time it was all over. So if you want the taps on at a moments notice, you have to either floor it from the get-go or be in full manual.
@@IainFraser81How did you find one? What was your methodology? I am looking for one
@@Symphoniics I'm in Australia, so it was really just monitoring CarSales. I'd gone to a few dealerships, and even Lexus itself, and left my name with them in case one came up. They all said the same thing: best of luck, if you can find one, buy it! So I resigned myself to the fact I wasn't going to get one locally so I'd have to ship it from interstate. That means I was going to have to buy it sight unseen, which added some complexity:
For me, that meant the car must not be under any kind of finance (because I can't go to the bank with the guy to make sure he uses my money to clear his loan). I have to have someone trustworthy look it over and take it for a drive. I'll have to get it shipped. And I'll have to get it registered and complianced in my state when it arrives.
I really took my time following a lot of ISFs to see how much the seller usually has to drop the price before it sells: seeing where the market actually is, rather than what everyone's asking price is, so I know what the market really supports when I make an offer.
Because of my rule about finance, I had to let one or two "perfect" cars go, but that's okay. I eventually made an offer on a white MY10.
There's a great company running out of Queensland who are set up to find classic cars. They do a full inspection with photos, take it for a test drive and give you their recommendation on if you should buy it. They can also be there in person to handle the sale and take possession of the vehicle and ship it to you. Thankfully they also do sports and luxury cars, so they were fine looking at the F. They weren't especially cheap, but their service was great and it made the whole thing much safer.
In my case, the big cross-country railway was flooded out, so my car had to be LITERALLY shipped, which again added to the cost. But the first time I saw the car for myself was when it rolled off the truck into my driveway. And it's been great!
All that additional stuff added about 5-6000 Australian dollars to the price, but I had my heart set on an ISF so I gritted my teeth and paid it.
I have had one setback in the year I've owned it: the starter motor died. That is a ridiculously expensive thing to fix. If you're looking for an ISF, try to make sure your exhaust headers aren't cracked in "the usual place" because the heat off that big V8 can cook your starter motor. That's what happened to me.
Best of luck in your search!
IIRC the coolant leaks were really only prevalent on 2009 and earlier models. Toyota had a bad batch of sealant or something company-wide. The Tundra engines get coolant leaks as well in those years. Haven’t looked into other engines.
I’ve seen/heard of it happening to 2010+ models as well, may just seem like the 08-09s are more affected because those two years account for over 50% of ISFs sold.
@dawnpoint This is misinformation
Additionlly to usual faults (valley plate leak, cracked headers, starter problems etc) I guess we can add radiators that blow up to the list! Had mine fckd yesterday. 115 000km on the clock only, mint condition car. Luckily I catched it just as it started leaking after seeing fresh fluid under a car on shopping mall parking lot close to home. Pulled it out today and it's a major PITA for something that should be simple radiator replacement. Of course, never heard of this issue on them or had any car in generally that would have radiator fail so soon. Yet, one google search later reveals it's super common on them around that mileage. If your has more and it was never changed, you are running on a borrowed time. New oem one is up to 1000$, depends where you are. Full aluminums are like 2-3x more than for other cars for some reason (1000-1800$ here in Japan). I've uncrimped and removed top tank and surely enough it is cracked around inlet hose area where it's the hotest and whole plastic has became brittle.
New oem radiator is
@@roofcamper3473 Ah really? Flat rate no matter where you live?
The only common problem with the is models is the start up rattle..very annoying noise but does not cause damage to the engine.
I have a video on how to find a valley plate leak with a borescope. First indication is low coolant . A $20 borescope at Amazon was a great investment.
Nice! Thanks for contributing.
Great channel man. Feel free to link my vid. There is no sound but it’s a simple and easiest way to look for the valley plate leak BEFORE it starts leaking down the firewall side or down the tranny, etc. Lexus did a visual inspection and pressure tests for TWO years and couldn’t find it. A $20 borescope showed them to perform the work before my warranty ran out.
@@icebear8637 - Thanks, that's good that you were able to show them and get it fixed under warranty.
I hit the maintenance jackpot with my ISF its a 08 with 140k its running great but i had all the mentioned problems including starter malfunction, rear suspension, cylinder misfires, lots of stuff, good and bad thing is all happened pretty much at the same time around 100-120k the most expensive was def the starter save money for that it cost me $2300 for replacement at dealership good luck trying to find someone that will do it cheaper almost all turned me away! Its a fun car but I suggest trading it in after 130k or so btw ive been daily driving it for 9 years so something to consider and i do drive it hard too and dont hit any pot holes will bend wheels $800 a piece for each
Yikes! I’ve heard of a lot of people replacing the starter when doing headers on their cars.
Starter. Haven’t had that yet. Mine is at 175k!! Love it. 😂😂
How come i don't have these mechanical issues with my entry-level IS250 😂
Good video! I don't have a problem with my dash. Lexus is changing all my panels for FREE. They feel it would be a problem when the vehicle gets older. My 2010 parts came in today as a matter of fact. Took 1 week to come in. They will give me a loaner. It will take 2 days to complete.
Thanks! Glad to hear you’re getting your panels replaced.
wow was having problems with my ifs last night. drove fine the following day and when i get in to go home it wouldn't start! lights was working fine and everything. but it just would't turn over. so now i have it at my local mechanics to see whats wrong with it
That sucks to hear. I hope it isn’t anything too serious or expensive to fix. Maybe the starter? Best of luck!
I have a lexus is 350 and it was nothing but problems. I loved it at first but now i hate that fucking thing. The head cracked, the alternator gave out, the starter gave out, i was driving to work and the car started shaking real bad, i went back home, it was fine, 6 months ago it cranked 1 time and then nothing, i replaced the crank sensor, mass air flow sensor, ecu, and then when the car started to crank over it wouldnt start as if it wasnt getting gas but i took the fuel pump out and its strong. Now that i dont want the peice of shit people say its the immobilizer. Fuck that im not trying shit anymore. I know i just got a peice of shit example but regardless i would never recommend that car to anyone anymore.
@@ahberlowkz852 what model year
@@SonnyVisual 08
What was the mileage on yours?
Great video! Addresses most of the common issues experienced by ISF owners. Luckily for me I have not had to deal with most of these. Possibly cracked headers as I do get the ticking noise on cold start-up, but this is a mod well worth doing regardless of cracked headers :)
Another issue worth mentioning that I have experienced and have heard from other owners, is a clicking noise on the front end when backing up. On mine it's just a quick click noise on drivers side front end, then immediatley goes away once car is moving. Possibly worn ball joint ?
Thank you. I’m hoping I won’t have to deal with any of these in the future as well. *knock on wood* I’m not too sure about the issue you’re having though.
I think it’s the front lower control arm bushing it’s a common problem on isf and easy to change
Driver left side seat bolster wears out. The leather tends to crack. Brake caliper peels & cracks. As for the interior trim, avoid oil based cleaners at all costs!
So normal wear and tear for the seats and calipers 🤣
Eli Gonzalez If you bought your car used, then it might seem normal. I bought my car new. In about year, I starting noticing what I mentioned above. It was really annoying. I’d rather dealt with this than interior panels melting.
I thought this car was completely bullet proof, I guess every vehicle has their issues, regular maintenance is key
Thank you.. Quiet reasonable problems compared to the your BMW, Merc and Audi!
From what I've read, the reason the IS wears tires more so on the inside is due to design. Lexus cambered the rear to provide better stability in corners and thus causes the tire to wear more on the inside.
The inner tire wear is on the front tires.
@@ISFASTER oh weird... I hadn't heard of that issue before. Couldn't it be due to poor ball joint design and/or control arm bushing wear? Both upper and lower?
@@nathangoodman603 The 1st generation IS had the same issue. A adjustable upper control arm or aka "camber kit" will correct this inner tire wear issue.
Thanks for the video. Considering possibly an ISF as a next car, long time AMG or V12TT Benz owner. Thanks
You’re welcome. How did you like AMG ownership?
Great information in this video! 💯
Current own an is300 ISF is a dream car hope I can own one some day :)
You’ll get there! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
rearward front lca bushing tends to go soft. but the inner tire wear is more related to camber change during suspension travel while track driving... I definitely destroyed my inner tires driving really hard, even with rearward lca bushings. The suggested camber adjustment fix is probably the best way to fully fix this. also getting stiffer sidewall tires seems to help quite a bit.
the valley plate leak is caused by the corrosive coolant eating away at the FIPG, I did mine with permatex "The Right Stuff" still good 2 years later. The example you showed where its dripping down is an EXTREME example. Easier way to check is using a borescope. Run it down near the PCV hose and you should be able to see the red crusty stuff if you have the leak.
Also, when performing the vally plate reseal. be REALLY CAREFUL with the direct injectors.... I believe there is a harness connector towards the rear, it may be easier to literally remove the injectors without unplugging them then shattering the DI injectors they are very brittle. also be careful that you do not roll the o-ring on the bridge pipe during installation, you may need a mirror or borescope or something to verify it is not rolled (you should be able to see it in the gap) it may be helpful to dip the oring in coolant as it can act as a lubricant, also get a new one from the dealership they are cheap and typically the old one is stretched in comparison to a new one increasing chances of rolling the ring.
great video
Hey it's Luis good video very informative thanks keep the vids coming see ya👍
Thank you! 😁
eBay digitizer works just fine replaced one on my is350..
Thanks for the first hand experience!
Please show us how
The only issue with them is the glare
My is F wgen i floor it it turns of a trisngle came on when that happened it beeps and the light flashes little ago did i sleep inside of it and it shut of now it wint turn on when it does it comes in for a min then it turns back off i dont know what the problem is
Hello there. Thank you for reading my comment. I am having an issue with my 2011 ISF. My rpm refuses to go up at about 5500 rpm on sport manual mode. Also it refuses to go up when in sport automatic mode (refuse to shift gears when at automatic sport mode). The normal mode looks fine. Have no idea about it, maybe you know why? Thanks so much!
I’ve never experienced this. I recommend putting a post on clublexus.com and seeing what responses you receive.
@@ISFASTER Thank you no worries. I will bring it to the dealership to sort it out. Hopefully I can update the issue and benefit some other owners too!
What was the problem?
SunshineState it’s been fixed. It’s just the silicone intake being a bit old and soft, so the rpm goes up, the air in it was too fast so the silicone intake shuts! It stopped the air to go in so there was an instant power cut at 5500 rpm. All good! When you guys get the aftermarket intake, do think about the silicone ones since it would get old and weak.
Im getting my valley plate done now. Lol
Thanks for the vid. The following links don't seem to work FYI. Digitizer, Subwoofer, Water pump
Thanks for notifying me, I've fixed them and they should be working now!
The tire wear is due to Tha camber these cars come from the factory they were design that way to improve cornering
Camber adjustable Upper control arm will fix that issue.
I wish the 2012-2013 IS F had an updated interior... would change my mind from getting a 2013 IS350 F Sport
The 2012/13 ISF has a fantastic interior,with way better materials used and of better build quality than the German competition. The infotainment system is not interior. If you buy an ISF for its infotainment system,perhaps you should buy PS5 and glue some wheels on it.
Welded headers cause a major power loss. I’ve had a header welded in the past and it does nothing but hurt the flow.
How would welding the two pieces that were originally welded together make flow any different?
@@ISFASTER haha exactly just a cheap fix till u gut them or get ppe
I have a video on what cracked headers sound like on a 08 with 145k miles if anyone wants to hear that
Thanks for sharing, this may help some people.
Is this common across all years of the ISF? I’m thinking to go with PPE headers before this happens.
@@jefflebo5836 I believe all years of the ISF are susceptible to this.
Cause it's not a race car. It's a luxury car that happens to be a bit sporty. You wanna drive fast? Get/build a car that can handle it.
@@JustTheTip556 very true
Hey. What tire size you running on the rears with stock rims? I'm looking to go with 285 Indy 500s and worrying if it will cause fender damage or if it will be safe. Was going to go with 295 on stock rims but realized I am pushing it. 285 seems like the safest width upgrade. Just wanted to know your opinion since I've heard you also run Indy 500s
I run 285/30/19 on stock 2012 wheels on a stock rear suspension without issues, no rubbing and no fender mods.
@@ISFASTER same here stock suspension, stock 2011 wheels. you think a 295 would be pushing it?
Yes, most people run 275s on the 2008-2011 wheels.
Wonder if you could use a high heat JB weld on the cracked headers lol
I've had my starter motor go, and also my radiator failed on me.
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully they weren’t too bad of a fix.
They happened within weeks of each other so it was a bit of a hit to the wallet.
That's on isF only right
Cracked exhaust manifold should trigger o2 sensors so that one should be easy to diagnose.
kjax are you saying that if an isf had cracked headers or exhaust manifold, there should be a check engine light?
@@kevinalonso3395 yes assuming the o2 sensors are stock
kjax would there also be smoke coming out from the exhaust?
@@kevinalonso3395 well on my ISF mine cracked and the only symptom was CEL/limp mode. I'm not sure if that would happen too. If you're having issues I'd recommend making a post over at the clublexus.com forums to get some more opinions
The engine starter is also a weak point of the car from what i´ve read
I’ve read about it going out and some people will change it as preventative maintenance when installing headers.
Just changed my starter then found out the previous owner had already installed PPE Headers lol!!! I did the labor on jack stands btw..
I want one . I seen one that's out of state for 33k$ with 45k miles and one in state for 28$k with 83k miles .
Go for it!
Thank you for the link, I am going to order my part via akguam Lexus. I have question my ISF has full on exhaust PPE headers the B2-S2 code p-0157 keeps going on my scanner, I replaced the 02 sensor and found that the previous owner by-pass the sensors through the passenger sensor B1 S2 with some kind of relay, is their a way to completely bypass the sensors? Please let me know thank you.
I believe you can use a tune (RR-Racing) to get rid of the check engine light or an O2 simulator.
Wait I thought all ISF came with the navi? How did you get it with the simple infotainment?
There’s a handful that came this way. 🦄🦄🦄
@@ISFASTER Thanx for the reply I did not know that. All of the ones I have looked on sale have navi. I guess yours could be the 1 of 86 2014.
@@aziatiklover - Mine is a 2012, not sure how many came without nav.
Not enough info such as which years isf has problems, how much is replacement header,
You should compile a list of missing information with answers and share.
Melting dashboards and door panels on 2006-2010...headlights dull out...speed and tach needles dim out...cd player gets messed up
No ISFs were made for 2006/2007.
I’m looking to buy a isf and I have a 200k 07 is350 that I’ll keep as a daily when I get one . Is this the only real issues isf have been having lately
Yes, of course there will be others but this covers the majority of them.
Great information can't wait to get my ISF
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Tengo un F y mi coolant ase burbujas pero no calienta que puede ser?
Maybe just your coolant cap
It’s loosing coolant 2
Can you buy another one? Miss your videos man!
Haha! Thanks, it was a good run but all hood things must come to an end!
Really wanted one of these cars as a Toyota guy and after seeing and reading more and more about these problems. Kind of turned me off on my search. Some of these are not "small problems"
Overall my car has been great for the performance it produces and very reliable especially for the way I’ve ran it on the track. Each car will have its own issues but I would not classify any of these as catastrophic failures.
I love me some him. I watch his videos bc he's so cute 😍
You think they will come out with some performance parts for the new ES 350 F-Sport 2? Headers etc?
I doubt very many ES350 F Sport owners are looking to modify their cars.
@@ISFASTER I am lol.
all of these sound much better than worrying about your rod bearings grenading your motor...
Yes, nothing catastrophic at least.
ISFASTER Makes me want an isf that much more, if only i had one for sale even remotely near me
Where are you at?
ISFASTER i’m in the north texas area, near Dallas
I usually see a few in Texas. Just gotta keep a look out and move fast if you see a good one! Good luck on your search.
Just had a crappy situation with my is350 couple weeks ago my starter died and i wasnt about to pay someone to 8-900 just to change it so i attacked it my self and let me tell you it was one hell of a B!tch to change 😂😂
PS waited 2 yrs for my is350 to get its recall done for my dash/door panels
Glad to hear you were able to fix it and you got the panels refreshed!
ISFASTER now the other issue for my wifes is250 we wont be able to do the recall for her car because the original owners didnt initiate the order before they sold it to a used auto dealer so now we will be stuck with a sticky dash and worn door panels now
so in summary its a garbage car ? i have a RX450h and i was looking for a V8 from Lexus /Toyota....so the IS-F is so bad ??
Check out my other videos. There’s a lot to like about the ISF as well.
I have the ticking sound on mine upon cold start up so most likely cracked header. Anybody have any experience with this and advice for the least expensive route?
The least expensive route would be to weld the broken flange back on the manifold.
zaneiken thanks
I agree, still a pain since you'll have to uninstall the header(s) that is cracked.
ISFASTER Update: Passenger side header is confirmed cracked. My mechanic is recommending replacing it with an OEM header. $1700 part, $2600 with labor. Your thoughts?
J Lowery - you could buy a set of PPE headers for that much or try and see if you can get the stock header welded.
Thx!👍💪👏🔰
You’re welcome! 👍🏻
Hi buddy, my 2009 ISF fitted with 225/40r19 front and 255/35r19 from factory. Now I’m gonna get new tires, is new set up 245/35 front and 275/30 rear good? Any safety issues?
That’s the size most people run on those wheels.
Valley and water pumps are due to the crappy pink coolant. I always flush out to toyota red coolant.
This is the first time I’ve heard those problems occurred due to the coolant. My understanding of the valley plate leak is the sealant used forms small cracks due to heat and the coolant leaks through the cracks and out.
Will regular coolant changing work?
I don’t believe so. You’ve gotta stop the leaking.
@@ISFASTER so it's envitable? No matter how carefull you're it will happen? How many miles before it happens? I'm looking to buy a 2008 ISF from japan with great condition and around 40k to 60k km.
It happens erratically, some people have got it at 30K miles, others at 150K miles. Some people have had their cars for 11 years and 100K+ miles with no issues. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@ISFASTER my ISF is a 2011 and nothing do far.... so 13yrs and 45K
Stealership quoted me $4000 to reseal the valley plate.
Good grief! That might be the highest I’ve heard thus far.
Someone is selling their 2012 isf for 30k with 80k miles and i want it so bad 😤
What’s holding you back? 😁
@@ISFASTER I'm only 17 and still in school :(
But once I start working I'm gonna get a is350 or ls400 first then save up for an isf, I never really gave my attention to the because i already had a gtr32 in mind but my has a isf and he took me for a ride and damn that thing is fast plus it's reliable.
Work hard and you’ll get there! 💪🏻💪🏻
80k miles for 30k? Seems awful high. Best to shop around...
Dealership in Sac, CA is selling a 2008 ISF with 100k miles, $25k. WhAts a fair deal to finance?
My 2012 ISF is only 30,400 miles and is leaking coolant from the valley plate. Junk design.
Gotta love it! 😩
wow you just scared me off from buying a isf
All cars have their share of problems and none of these are catastrophic. I believe them to be less worrisome than some of the issues the competitors have shown during their lifetime.
Your just going by a bunch of comments on chat groups from people who don't actually have the car Or know anyone who has the car
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Great video!F the world
Thank you!
@@ISFASTER are you gonna do a performance upgrade package while ur at it?
No current plans.
Inner tyre wear?. A sports car that gets flogged. Expendable products
Ahh this is what this goofball looks like
You forgot these damn headlight issues
What happened to your headlights?
@@ISFASTER the crazy condensation issues and ballast problems in the earlier years
Ah ok. Thanks for adding that to the list!
Ppe is the best one
What about NOVEL? 👀👀
but what you understand from a lexus was nothing
Seems like cracked headers plagues most Lexus
Specially when you drag race a lot? Lol.
Hah! She’s had her fun at the track for sure.
Love my ISF! czcams.com/video/sVhsH4OQ0qA/video.html
Dude your the only one having problems with the IS F 😂 since beat that car like is a truck doing drag races nonstop you lucky you haven’t blown up ur engine
I didn’t encounter most of these problems myself. I certainly had fun with the car though! 😁
@@ISFASTER I know a car can’t be perfect they will have simple problems like Alternator , Spark plugs and Valve seals stuff like that but man you gonna definitely brake a car that last forever 😂
Oh all the Lexus fan boys say their bulletproof, No?
Warranty 😆
Most ISFs are out of standard warranty by now. 😁
Comin2gtcha just got my dash and panels replaced even though they were good ..
@@carlbutler2080 how long did it take your f to do the panels and dash.ive been waiting for 3 months now!
I purchased a Toyota platinum warranty and it's paid for itself already. Got everything you metioned replaced except valley plate. Didn't get that issue. Still have 3 years or 40k miles left on the warranty.
@@carlbutler2080 Got mine replaced too. They were terrible.
I don’t believe this, nothing goes wrong with Lexi
Have you heard of maintenance? It really helps, you should try it.
Because the majority of items on this list are normal maintenance items... 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@ISFASTER You didn't get my point, that is exactly what I tried to say. Don't blame the car, blame sloppy maintenance. And that includes the leather. Keep it in good condition and it will outlive you.
What maintenance would one do to avoid the valley plate leak, cracked header, melting dash, screen and subwoofer going out?
Problems? This ain’t no bmw 😂😂😂
Good Blog thanks; hope you will never have the problem as seen in this thread:when performing drag races performancedrive.com.au/crash-3000hp-lexus-isf-by-ekanooracing-takes-off-like-a-plane-1923/ (check the video)
Thanks! I’m a few thousand horsepower short compared to that ISF! 😂
Lil Jon🤣
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So an expensive internal engine problem lol 416hp for a $25,000 car with a lot of miles. Just get a camaro or mustang for less money and the engines are reliable. No ls3 has a single huge defect like that valley issue. Only thing that happens on an ls3 is maybe the oil pump. Pushrod v8s have far less parts than these 32 valve quad cam engines
buy a bmw
@Don Duke LOL
Do you still own this car?