HYUNDAI KIA SYSTEM LEAN CODES P2187 AND P2189
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- showing what seems to be a common issue for the hyundai or kia 2.7l engine with system lean at idle codes..also a system rich code that i believe could be linked to the failure.
This was exactly what was wrong with my car. Followed your instructions (had to go pick up a pair of long needle-nose pliers at Harbor Freight) and the numbers behaved exactly the same way. Thanks for saving me a lot of money. Subscribed!
Nice video. "Purge" is normally closed and "vent" is normally open. Therefore, when purge sticks open, vacuum leak because vent is open. Rich condition will develop at start-up (build up of fuel vapors) converts to lean condition as engine runs (drawing only atmosphere).
Yea. In hindsight I should have looked to see if freeze frame data showed the rich conditions at colder engine temps. Good thinking...thanks
+johnwrench4speed Vent is only open during key off though, it closes during key on or run. The lean condition came from a bypass valve built in to the gas cap opening when the vacuum in the tank gets too strong.
+Derrick Hodges The vent, or as Hyundai describes it Canister Close Valve (CCV), and as described in ALLDATA:
"The Canister Close Valve (CCV) is located between canister and fuel tank air filter. It closes off the air inlet to the canister for the Evaporative Emissions System leak detection inspection function and also prevents fuel vapors from escaping from the Canister when the vehicle is not operating."
Therefore, in order for fuel to be drawn from the fuel tank during engine operation, the vent has to be open.
johnwrench4speed Looks like basic CVV operation. However, an open vent is not the only means for air to enter a tank. Nearly all vehicles that still use gas caps have a vacuum bypass valve built in to keep the tank from imploding under too high vacuum scenarios. If that bypass valve is stuck open air will enter the tank even with a perfectly functioning vent/purge system.
This lean run will throw a bad o2 after the repair of the purge .purge ohm was a bad one .fixed it but now its got a o2 bank 2 code.109 bucks ..hoping this keeps it off.
Good video... I pinch hoses as well when the smoke doesn't come out anywhere and I've got the same needle nose pliers, love them!
Nice. Back when I got them,snap on called them the stork pliers. They came with a monstrous orange coffee mug. Way back
"Queue the compressor" hahaha. Fav part of the video. Awesome video! 😄
Thanks James Danner another great video thanks for shering for your time thanks
Nice job as usual, James. I have seen a lot of purge solenoid problems with Hyundai cars. Usually hard start and poor run after filling the fuel tank. Sometimes I think those cars are completely built with Dorman parts. {:-)
So what u r saying is I used OE parts. :/
+James Danner Very good possibility.
Nice work on finding the issue. Keep up the good work!
I always wait for your videos. Great job. Was wondering if you ever use Identifix Direct Hit? They own Iatn. Regardless, You would of found the problem. Tell all the guys hello.
No I haven't. Is that linked with snap on?
No. OTC
You can try it for free for 60 days
Richard Gill good
Hello James. I just joined iATN and want to know where on iATN did you find the repair for these lean
fixed many kia's and Hyundai 's with the same codes, some do have issues with the canister coming apart and clogging the purge valve. I have had several 4 cyl. that would stall in the am running very rich from an over saturated canister too.
Ok. That's good to know. One of the complaints on this car was running poorly and stalling but I never experienced it in the shop. Seems like the rich issue is happening cold or long soak time
aqui en mi taller en Caracas, Venezuela tengo una Santa Fe con DTC p2189 y p0341, gracias por tu tiempo y conocimientos amigo
So basically if it has vacuum after it's done purging, its bad?
Learn something every video!
Thanks!
Thanks friend
All the best
hey jim you working like mad on time for us anymore?
Fantastic vid Danner 👍👍
Hey.. the thumbs came thru alright.
Fantastic - can't remember were they up or down :)
It depends which way I hold my phone :P
+James Danner LOL hey Danner you and Clark are today :)
Awesome. Looking forward to it
Also try out Identix direct hit. Its iATN sister company. You can try it for free for two months. It's pretty good.
9:32 I have the same noise and same code 2187 on my Mazda 3 2005. Do you know if Kia and Mazda share the same parts? I am impressed that two different cars may have the same problems.
hello i have the same probleme... my hyundai santa fe 2008... is the purge valve the probleme.. but is the same place in santa fe 2009? ( after gaz the car not starting the same code p2187 p2189
Great video. Thank-you
See paul made you a star now you forgot us little people?
That's it. I have a lame one edited and I'm dedicating it to you :p
Thanks jim?
Paul told me to give you a hard time ha ha.
I didn't realize there were different categories of lien .
Im 30 seconds in and dizzy already
I'll never be as cool as u. :p
I love the irony when the camera pans right past a set-up tripod lol.
I knew you would appreciate that.
Schrodingers Box hey Matt signing up for the new channel.
***** You'll love it!! Lots of new videos there!!
Had same codes. Purge value was clicking. Replaced valve and now 6 months later same codes but dont hear the clicking. Any ideas? Only tool I have is code scanner. Just asking before I take to shop I cant afford. Thanks
I have a kia Rio 2015 and mash for gas after while I driving it is take a while to come
So what it produce the code p 2187 and 2189 is the purge valve them system too lean them
I bought new valve but still not fix the problem. B2 oxygen sensor valve is not moving even when I increase the RPM. Please advise
My holy faith is 2008, I turned it off and it didn't turn on anymore, I changed the fuel pump it started working but it stopped again, but after 30km it stopped and it didn't work anymore the code p2187, bank 1 appeared. Can you help me? I'm from
Oh man! A sideways check engine light? How do you fix THAT! LOL
Duct tape. Ha
James Danner Haha! That should do it, but if that doesn't hold you can always go with the JBweld.
hey jim you must be working hard no videos.
muito bom parabens !!!!!
We use tracs at my shop
We are a few months into it. Still learning
worst oil fill location ever in those 2.7 SUVs
it's a shame the car stuff has to be mired in weird god stuff
+SilentServiceCode I don't think it's mired. I just like to give thanks for the gift God has given me. I only put it at the end of a hopefully substantive video for that purpose . Maybe spark a thought in someone. Not preaching. Thanks for watching and the feedback
This is not weird There is not enough information her to explain what is needed to believe.We all have sinned and come short of the glory of god. This does not mean we are horrible nasty people, just not as perfect aa God. We have not kept all of God's law.. God sent Jesus to do for us what we can not do for ourselves, pay for sin. He lived totally sin free, allowed men to do all the horrible things to him that the did, hang him on a cross to. He was buried, and third day rose from the dead, Proving he did not lie. It is finished. For God so loved you that He gave his only begotten Son , that when you believe in him, you shall not perish, but have everlasting life. The gift is your's believe it.
Why not clear the codes?
The way pa emissions is set up, check engine light has to be off and all readiness monitors ready or complete. (all but one) to pass. If I cleared the codes ,the monitors go not ready or incomplete . The result of a test after that is "NOT READY FOR TESTING" I needed to issue a sticker that day so my option is to issue a waiver sticker. That's qualified by spending more than $150 towards the cause of failure. But I need an initial test fail and an after repairs test fail ,where I enter the repair data. A not ready test won't let me enter data ,so I can't get waiver approval from state . I usually clear the codes after the waiver is approved
Thanks, awesome videos. It has help me a lot
good night
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