LeBron James lacks Michael Jordan’s 'assassin' mentality - Stephen A. | First Take
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- Stephen A. Smith puts LeBron James among his top 3 NBA players of all time but he can’t put him ahead of Michael Jordan because LeBron developed his championship mentality while Michael Jordan had it when he first joined the league.
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Ryan Hollins: How do you guard Lebron James?
Kawhi Leonard: Am I a joke to you?
lebron averagerd 28 8 and 5 on 57% shooting against kawhi but ok
@@abudabi1995 on spurs not kawhi.
@@abudabi1995 did you watch the series? they had to switch Kawhi off lebron because he was clamping him.
@@Hawkeyes319 lebron averaged 28 on 57% shooting i watched teh series. miami got beat by beautiful basketball. keep blaming it on lebron tho u started watching in 2014
AMW if they switched off then why bring him up in the first place? If he was constantly switched then apparently he didn’t lock him up
Who the hell let Ryan Hollins back on the set.
Whole Lotta Gang Shit he actually took a W here
idk where tf he came from
Splash God idgaf if he’s right or wrong he just annoying.
Dont you mean Stephen A Smith the second?
Whole Lotta Gang Shit Stop hating on greatness.
Hollins: "how do u guard lebron james?"
Jordan with a cigar in his mouth: "Hold my beer"
@Ya Boi Tom that would work too.
Who could guard Lebron? I see some people says Jordan.. some say Pippen.. sure they both good. Who would guard Lebron and keep him in check? Kukoc. Put Lebron on the Warriors with the best Warriors team out there.. they still wouldn't have beat the bulls. Harper locks up Klay. Jordan Locks up Steph. Pippen Locks up Durant. Kukoc slows down James.. Rodman utterly DESTROYS Draymond, and anyone dumb enough to try to come to the hole. Now, on the flip side.. who stops Jordan from scoring? James? He's an average to, slightly above average defender. That's not holding down MJ. No one else on that Warriors team plays good enough defense to lock down Jordan. That's not even counting Scottie.
Just ask kawhi how to guard bron
@@BenTIStudios prime LeBron was a dpoy level defender. He can't stop the GOAT Jordan but he can slow him down slightly. They can double Jordan cause they don't have to defend Rodman. KD can get Pippen.
@@kapiln9529 he's never won Defensive player of the year. Sorry but Jordan is getting his. On the regular
Ryan Hollins: how do you guard Lebron James
Jason Terry has entered the chat.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
im crying
Super Mario Hezonjas mushroom power stopped the clutchness of the evil LeBowser aka King LeKoopa
ppl do stuffs how good was JT guarding lebron the next season when norris cole gave lebron a nice pass 15 feet in the air?
also patrick beverly entered the chat
LeBron: imma make the right play
Mj: I am the right play
Nice
That sounds like his making Mj
Preach lol.
😂😂
Hectic Ice Beat comment I’ve ever saw / heard
Stop bringing Ryan Hollins in please guy has no clue 🤦🏾♂️
Don’t question greatness.
That dude is just another LBJ apologies and a clown with no clue at all
He’s(Hollins) not even allowed to bring the water jug in Jordan ‘s era.
Kris Monroe bro i totally agree .. he can go somewhere else .. dude don’t even make sense sometimes ..
I HATE THIS GUY
There’s only one G.O.A.T. “Michael Jordan”.
Good night.
@Ya Boi Tom Kobe who?
Ya Boi Tom shaq carried kobe lol
There is no taking away Jordan's being the goat he played before them but people neccesarily take kobe out of the conversation you have this man who plays with a killer mentality just like jordan did with people who didn't score as much as him everyone(excluding shaq but kobe was a young player who didnt get time then was put in next to shaq and if you search it up those season they put up similar point) and played with a shoulder injury acl tear and alot of other injuries people just neccesarily take Kobe out with no recognition I say its 1a Micheal 1b Kobe 2 Lebron
Ya Boi Tom it’s MJ all the way
🤜
Michael and Kobe are the greatest
Maaan, was Jordan ever NOT in his prime? 😂
High school and college maybe.
Wow, I can’t believe I was watching Kobe stuff just weeks before he died. I always do stuff like that, kinda start thinking about someone for some reason then that happens 😭
Yeahh
Wizards
SydneyPhotography2019
Jordan at his worst was probably in 95 when he came back from playing baseball but still put up nearly 50 points on one of his first games back 🐐
Steven A. Should actually have called security to remove Ryan Hollins off the set.
Flashyfinancier for real man wtf
Flashyfinancier god bless you brother thank you!
Nah he should have called the mental hospital
Ryan was baby fight
Ryan Hollins as an analyst is a bigger joke than Ryan Hollins as an NBA player.
True that just stright garbage. N now he wants to shine n bring up nonsense.
Numbers don’t lie, LBJ is more clutch
Camren Gandee yet he only got 2 rings .... with +1 ring tho since Allen saved him with that great 3 pointer against the Spurs.
Tk Schaaf put MJ on those scrub ass Cavs teams that LeBron was on and I bet he loses too, it’s not LBJ’s fault he’s had shitty teammates
@@camrengandee7942 What about losing on the heat lmao.
hollins: how do u guard lebron james?
Kawhi and kobe: excuse us?
Look at lebrons numbers against both those guys
Holllins: How do you guard LeBron James?
Me: Ask whoever held him to 8 pts in the finals against the Mavericks.
Ravenlife 1372 sadly that was Jason terry.
@@fury_021 The real jet 😂
“MJ didn’t have to play the warriors”
That’s because MJ WAS the warriors of his time.
Tommywood correct! but the Bulls doesn't have too many all stars back then and they are all oldies when rodman came ...
Bcuz the league talent was so spread out you can’t compare
Everybody talks about this. Okay ya sure Lebron had to face the warriors they're stopping him from getting rings. I may understand once they got KD it's impossible to beat GS in a 7 game series. So Lebron has been robbed of rings 2 times so far. Lebron's team beat the warriors that went 73-9 for the title. So obviously the year before when GS had 3 all stars against the Cavs 3 all stars Lebron could have won that series. Now let's talk about the other 5 finals Lebron James has been in. 3 of them Lebron had to face the Spurs which in 2007, Spurs swept the Cavs, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Ginobili were still in their primes, but were starting to wear down through the years they played. Then Lebron beat them in 2013 with help from Ray Allen who hit one of the most clutch shots in NBA history to push it to 7 games. Then they lose to that exact same San Antonio team the next season in 5 games. The other 2 finals Lebron beat the OKC thunder. Props to him. But when Lebron went up against the 2011 Mavs that had just ONE all star (Dirk Nowitzki) against his 3 on the Heat? What the hell happened? Dirk lead the Mavs to a championship over the Heat in 6 games with a starting 5 of an OLD Jason Kidd, JJ Barea, Shawn Marion, Dirk, and Tyson Chandler. This is why Lebron ain't no GOAT.
Truth
as if lebron didnt horribly lose to nowitzki mavs having wade and bosh
and to SAS team twice and once showed off by kawhi leonard
Max Kellerman and Stephen A are the Jordan and Pippen of ESPN.
Daniel R Other way around, but yeah I see the comparison.
Man I'm getting out. I remember the time Stephen A and skip being Jordan and pippen
No not max kellerman
No stuart scott was MJ
@@killamatrix1 yes sir 100%
Ryan Hollins: How do you guard Lebron James?
Kobe: Watch the 2013 all star game.
my favourite all star game. that was the last time i got to see healthy kobe, and he repeatedly lockdowned james, as well as dunked on him, as a 35 year old
How do you stop Lebron James??.. you put a 30 year old Jason Terry on him
It was kidd that shut him down not Terry
kidd was older back then..
That wouldn't happen to MJ
No disrespect but don’t bring back Ryan hollins
Fuck all that. All disrespect. Keep him off that show
He getting paid to say bron is better, he don't actually believe it
Agree 100%
They need idiots on the show just to stir up controversy
yea bring him back cause he knows nothing thats what really make a good debate, dont bring back that other dude, cant think of his name but he has no personality and is a numbers guy, somebody tell me his name , hes black, but dont bring him back
Ryan Hollins has no experience in terms giving superstar advice.
He doesn’t irritate me more then rob from undisputed lol now that guy I wish I could reach into the tv and slap
ProfessTheFan wasn’t he drafted by MJ..? I wonder if he’s even old enough to drink..he sounds so young and ignorant
FACTS. let me hear someone who got a ring or a LEGEND talk.
I feel like Hollins would give some excellent insight... on warming the bench. Can someone tell Stephen A. Smith Jr. they are indoors please?
I'd say he's more qualified to give advice than someone who's never played an NBA game in their entire life
Stephen A laughing at Ryan's ridiculous take at 1:14 always gets me😂😂😂😂
Same bro I like it when he says Max Max Max Max Max Max I got him I got him LOL have you seen the other video with Hollins and o'neill?
Ryan Hollins: who can gurad lebron?
Dennis Rodman: Am I a joke to you
T-800 Rodman would have lebron faking injuries and losing what’s left of his hair
@@juanio7036 lmao true
@@juanio7036 😂
I remember "the worm" not just clamp players, he also get to their heads and ruin the whole game.
A Dude like JJ Barea and Shawn Marion, every time these dude played solid defense lebron went straight to the ref complainin
Ryan Hollins saying that Utah Jazz team was weak??? I didn’t know Karl Malone and John Stockton were nobodies 🤦🏽♂️
John Stockton is a G.O.A.T.
HORNACEK
Olivia D they were washed up
Sad Boi Minute greatest point guard ever
In the paper. but the as a team the is very good, having a good system and will coach.
Stephen and max literally jumped the guy 😭😂
ArnoldinhoMP4 not literally. But yeah.
😭
"8 points in a lost NBA finals" Six words to end this debate.
Right. That shuts down ANY goat conversation. No goat can ever score single digits in a finals game.
@@ThomasFoolery8 Exactly right
@@ThomasFoolery8 larry bird having back to back 8 pt games? kobe going 4-13 in the 2004 finals? j
@@wsdadsujiahd9800 not goats.
@@ThomasFoolery8yet people say Kobe is the goat
1 Jordan
2 Bryant
3 James
LeBron ain't even close to these killers 🤣
Kareem is better than Kobe
@JeKo Fuentes Kareem is better than Kobe lol
@Ya Boi Tom ok and Kareem won 6 mvp and 6 championships and how many mvp's does Kobe have
@Ya Boi Tom he had very hard competition he had to deal with the Celtics pistons sixers with Dr j
Lebron is better
I didn't know there was a "Bring your kid to work" day at ESPN
Nice 🤣😂🤣🤣
hahahaha
Well apparently there is lol
Max with the biggest point...... Jordan played 82 .. 40mins both ends of the floor unlike these cupcakes now taking games off for “rest” gtfoh
People really sleep on the hakeem dream. That monster was as scary as shaq
@@MrHarshverdhan Hakeem is one of the best and that Dream Team is the best version of Team USA. Jordan is a better player. , but it's because of Dream, why the new kids wouldn't be using their size at their will down low. Throw in DR....whose
no slouch himself.
No major injuries either.
Steffon Penke He retired three times
Yeah due to the higher pace and athleticism in today's league. Look what a lack of load management did to Iverson. Nothing wrong with respecting your body's limits and aiming for longevity
Top 3 Players
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
That's it
Nailed the players and the order!
My god lmao
Rome O I’m srry but I would have LeBron 2nd I loved kobe. But LeBron is a better all around player. LeBron has to win 2 more rings to match Jordan imo.
Martin Quintanilla 5 3 more rings to match
Ralph Austin (Wilson) yea lol
Stephen A.... Thanks for congratulating Max on his improved knowledge of Jordan.
Max... Thank you for learning more about the GOAT. You taught me something!
Lebron can be better on paper all he wants, Kobe and MJ are a DIFFERENT BREED.
Kabir Bariana one word assassin
Kabir Bariana kobe and mj never run away from pressure or blame somebody they played with a chip and wasnt scared to let out the fucking beast inside of them. ryan talking about fucking golden state shooting pussies who plays defense when they want to and fuck around and get lucky with steph or klay shooting.
WELL FUCKING SAID
Kobe played robin to Shaqs Batman you right
@@iamLODD two finals MVP's out of Five
It should be illegal for Ryan Hollins to appear on TV...
Jordan was unguardedable
Dudes a bum
Its illegal in fact. Ryan is on probation right now. Most Sports TV sets have a restraining order against him
Youse a Laker fan . Huh.
LeBron James will never be on Michael Jordans level sorry
Dakota Guthrie no arguing that
Dakota Guthrie You putting words in my mouth?
Not even on Kobe level
And why? I am still think MJ is the goat but you have to be on crack to say that? First of all, before you say superteam, MJ had a superteam. Before you say MJ only stayed in one team, the management made the bulls, not MJ, while Lebron made the heat and the 2014-2018 cavs. People always talk about LeBron's shortcomings but never Jordan's. If you say that D wade or irving saved him, have you seen Pippen?
Lebron james is past mj level
Stephen A’s laugh at 1.16 is the greatest of all time 🤣👌🏽👌🏽
“Need 5 people to guard lebron”
Kawhi: Am I a joke to you?
Lebron had one of the best nba finals against kawhi, not trying to say kawhi can't guard lebron but it's not like kawhi can shut down lebron
@@leonardoramos7964 but iggy or dreymond did
2014 Kawhi won finals mvp and held lebron to an incredible ! 28,8,4,2, lmao yes he must be a joke
Kawhi is a joke, he ran out of toronto because he knows toronto will never be at the finals for a long time to come considering they just snuck by the limping and depleted warriors. no change in l.a.
steven sparkz lol warriors were barely depleted they only didn’t have kd and klay for like 1 game. Then u have the raptors with kawhi with his knee at 75% Lowry with his wrist injury siakim with his shins, van vleet getting hit in the face and og out. It was evenly matched in terms of injury. And kawhi only left cuz la is his home
You're kidding Lebron isn't even in the same league as jordan defensively
And jordan never choked in the finals
Had little Kuzma to push him to play Defense 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He did in the first round Lebron never did
You’re *
LeBron carried a mediocre Cavs team to 4 finals. Jordan took a team of hall of famers to 6 finals.
When did lebron ever choke in the finals?¿
When Stephen A. says "Wait Max, I got this"... somebody gets to be DESTROYED
Nobody:
Larry Bird: ...🤔 why does nobody remember me sweeping Jordan multiple times 😅
"God disguised as Michael Jordan" - Larry Bird
Check the stats haha He got swept in his first 3 seasons but he was playing better than every superstar in the league
@@PauloSantos-yb4bz hah so funny, not.
Because Bird had 3 HOF teammates doing it while Jordan didn't even have an Allstar.
He did sweep him in 86, what other year?
How many times they talk about this. Lebron ain't Mj. Stop talking about it. Please analyze basketball games and don't gossip
This narrative to push and compare lebron to jordan is getting annoying. Like every single year, the media keeps talking about this even after lebron keeps on loosing to the finals. Especially in the last finals where he gave up on game 1 and game 4 which led to a sweep. That performance made Charles barkley say that he will puch somebody in the mouth if that somebody is gonna say lebron is better than mj.
@LeGoat James lebron is an overrated playmaker stop.
@LeGoat James seriously? Did u know when MJ played point guard he averaged a triple double? Did he not make the right play when he set up steve kerr for a WIDE OPEN 3 pt shot in a finals game? Did he not set up bill wennington for a WIDE OPEN game winning dunk in a game dubbed as "double nickel game". You probably just watched his scoring highlights then if you think he lacks passing and playmaking skills. Kyrie's clutch shot was all himself, Ray allen's clutch shot was from chris bosh offensive rebound from LBJ's miss.
LeGoat James man jus by your username i can tell you don’t know wtf you’re talking about
LeGoat James dedicating your CZcams profile to Lebron? A little much nah ?
Get Ryan Hollins off this show
Let that stupid Ryan Hollins stay in that show to continue to embarrass himself. What an idiot! Hahaha
Get his scrub ass off here
He's awful
🤣🤣🤣
so trash
"How are you gonna guard LeBron?" Simple, you put Jordan on him.
A legit argument can be made that Michael Jordan would’ve won 8 straight titles if he didn’t retire after his first 3 titles. The Bulls would’ve beaten the Houston Rockets with Hakeem Olajuwon in the ‘94 NBA Finals. And they would’ve beaten them again in ‘95 if Michael Jordan played a full season in ‘95.
"How do you Guard Lebron James?" Ask the 2010-2011 Dallas Mavs they could write a whole book on it..
2011 lol😂
MrGrownman455 also ask kawhi
@@JacksonDansel Yea true haha.. As A MIami heat fan I used to think Lebron just quit on us because he was leaving anyway. which he may have quit but Kawhi had Lebron on lock. haha I remember that finals I could not believe what I was watching but after seeing this dude have a problem with a Zone Defense in 2011 then It should not have surprised me.
@Steezy Mac The REAL JET!!!
How to guard jordan... Ask the pistons lmao they could write 2 books on that.. Back to back championships
How do you guard Lebron James?
Ask Spurs, Maverick, Warriors
And Joakim Noah in 2014
The warriors did a great job on Defense. They only allowed him to lead in every major statistical category.
Jordan lost six times before he made it to the finals.
You wanna know how to guard Jordan?
Ask the Celtics and Piston
Don't forget the magic bust that ass also lol
Lebron: “Jordan is the GOAT.”
SAS: “You’re right.”
Lebron:
SAS:
Ryan Hollins: But here’s why your Wrong
These kids now don’t know basketball. Softest game ever.
“82 games a year 40 mins a game both sides of the floor”
Case closed.
They never played organized basketball to begin to understand what it takes
Hiro Kai 💯
Hiro Kai little lady, You Know Your Basketball!!!😉!
MJ played against brick layers gtfoh boy
Nfl sucks 2
Why is ryan hollins talking basketball for 🤷🏽♂️
gabriel colon He was a 55 overall in 2k
gabriel colon cause he holding lebron nuts 🥜
gabriel colon Good Damn Question
I was only looking at the kid in the back with the Bryant jersey 😂😂
If your life depended on winning a game, you give the ball to MJ every time. The guy was a true warrior.
bron has more game winning shots than mj and kobe combined but good take bro
LOL @ Ryan Hollins .. 3.7ppg dude questioning MJ's competition ..
sLiCkyWoRm 😂😂😂😂Facts
and forced into retirement at age 30. James Jones has played more than him.
sLiCkyWoRm I'd have to take the opinion of someone ; who actually PLAYED on an NBA level . Before , EVER listening to the emotional outbursts of a THOUSAND non playing online respondents though .
LeBest is LeGreatest
Shalamar Man emotional outburst ? MJ was playing against shaq, Larry Bird, and magic Johnson. All top 10 players lol.
"How do you guard Lebron James?"
Jason Terry: *Am I a joke to you?*
Let'sAllLove Lain you mean by getting dunked on?
@@UrinalUser Nah by outplaying him in the finals. That dunk was cute though...
Let'sAllLove Lain stopppp cringy azz
@@asyapilipenko2348 Says the person with *REKT* in their handle... 🤦♂️
U mean JJ Barea
Bruce Lee, Mohammed Ali, and Babe Ruth all faced opponents that were bigger, stronger, and faster than they were. But those legends always won because they had a heart of an assassin and killer will. So it is with MJ.
How do u stop LeBron?? Jason Terry lmao
jj barea
@@RRRaiken jr smith
Be Like Mike23 D , kawhi not!
You mean the Refs
Rodman would make Lebron cry, and break his weak ass mind
This man Ryan Hollins jus made me change my mind 😂 Jordan definitely the GOAT
😂😂😂
U're a damn fool if u actually thought LeFlop was/is the G.O.A.T BEFORE hearing Ryan speak! Smfh!
No man get a hold of yourself. LeBron the GOAT
@@qsplak you mad Kobe isn't in the conversation. L
I gotta change my name
Where can I watch the full video of this segment?
1:45 Max was lowkey pissed😂
5:50 “how do you guard LeBron James?” You don’t need five defenders just a washed up Jason terry, washed up kid, and J J Barea.
Jose Arroyo nailed it
It's like ok that leaves 4 guys open how do you lose? Can't have it both ways. He acting like Lebron is 6-0 and Jordan 3-6. Reality is put Jordan or Kobe in lebron spot vs Mavs they win 100% which mean in Lebrons position Jordan/Kobe would both have more rings and a better record then his current 3-6.
rookie kawahi old iggy ,what do u mean how do u guard LeBron.....2016 final game 1 game on the line ball in his hands Stephen was guarding him 1 on 1, what happened ?
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@@resColts put jordan or kobe on a cavaliers team and ask them to beat that one team that won more games than jordans bulls. you know the one with the best back court of all time. golden state or something
Kawhi Leonard absolutely locked down lebron in the 2014 finals what are you talking about how to guard lebron
ThatboiBryson 24 he averaged 28 points a game in that series...... how is that in anyway being "locked down" 🤣 an ion even like lebron but cmon bruh
Ftb gilly Lebron ass.
He locked him down ONE game . Get over yourself
Don't act like kawhi couldn't guard a prime MJ if MJ played todag
@@JustinODonnell2424 He couldn't! Jordan would chew Kawhi up and spit him out. Jordan was also an even better defender then Kawhi
Forgot to mention,the NBA rules: Handcheck is already illegal today, and if Jordan "dominated" the game with playrers hacking, trying to INJURE a michael jordan each game and still lead the league in SCORING. How about now? Jordan would've averaged 60 pts on todays NBA. Now, this is a rhetorical question would lebron be the same player now if we bring back the Old rules or Lebron won't be able to Flop as refs during the old days won't call a FOUL without seeing blood literally... ;)
Nice troll lmao
If lebron came into the leauge like that he probaly wouldn’t flop like this cause he would have a better mentality
@@richgod9676 you'll never know, several times lbj shows weaker mentality i don't see that those old guys will make him better if he plays on that era. He might get intimated that he'll just be another obscure nba player
Stephen A laughing at the clutch remark should be a meme
Where is that stat from? That can’t possibly be right. Is it counting random games where Lebron scores in the last 5 sec but the lead is in double digits?
How he not talk about lebron get beat by the Dallas Mavericks.
@Angel Em after 07 Dirk said "No not again" an went German Ultra instinct his shot was untouchable how do you stop a 7 footer that is fading away from you an shoots behind his head . You dont you just watch the Beauty of the shot - Dwyane Wade 2011 finals- facts
Kobe lost to the Pistons
Goatbe Bryant wrong
Thanh Le lol Jordan got swept in the first round twice.
Thanh Le lebron never lost a first round playoff series.
Says the guy that avg 3.7 pts. 2.2 rb. 0.3 ast. in 518 NBA games
Chris Is The Name lmfao
In today's league at that
4:34-4:57.; What season with Scottie Pippen & having a migraine happen, again?...
I remember hearing something about this story, but, I don't remember all of the details.
2:55 on the right, that man is starring into my soul
MJ Moves different he jumped different, he walked different, he shoots different
his poise and elegance on the court was poetry in motion - it was Performing art
Art work was julius erving the man they call the doctor
Theoretically Lebron could have 40,000 points, 10,000 assists, 10,000 rebounds. The second closest is 25,000 points, 4,000 rebounds, 4000, assists. That’s an art too.🤦🏻♂️
Numbers don’t lie, y’all can say what u want but LBJ more clutch
@jocriss Can you fuck off kid.
BIG KOLE Factz ! Class was damn sure in session!!!
Lebron went to 8 straight finals to then missing the playoffs. Eastern conference is a joke.
he miss'd like 20 games... dat dont mean shit doe huh?? 😅😅😅
Also for the hate and non credit his teammates always get, I guess they were decent enough to help him get around 50+ wins every season.
Why does everyone forget that the lakers were 4th in the west and smacking the warriors until lebron got hurt?
@@cwilson9341 one game doesn't mean anything. We talking about right now and right now the lakers aren't even in the playoffs
zReNAgAdE504 apparently grammar don’t mean shit either 😴
Ryan Hollins: How do you guard Lebron James?
Paul Rudd: 🤔 "Jason Terry"
Mentality make your team keep fighting. If u play sport, u know the importance of that hunger vibe to keep team spirit high until tthe end of the game
We all should boycott ESPN if they keep bringing Ryan Hollins back!?!? I know they see these comments.
Still molly pissed me off more than him
That guy don't know shit about basketball
nothing wrong with ryan hollins, he droppin facts
Y’all just grouping up to hate this man cuz it’s funny but he actually makes good points. Stop being a follower
That fuckin Ryan is a young dude that never seen MJ play.. doesn't know shit bout basketball standard, who WTF bring out 5 sec plays in finals n OT to the table, Really 5 sec... LeBron went 0-4 last yr finals.. u bump ass
It’s weird seeing Stephen A playing the role of skip bayless.
Pulled out the skip bayless Ray Allen bar😂
I didn’t know goats go too 8 finals and only win 3 of them
9*
9*
The first 15 seconds, Stephen A is like "Ryan shut up please" 😂
Lebron aint no Kobe Bryant. PERIOD
Thank you case closed
Chuuuuurchhh!!!!
Tru!
Yeah he’s better
If you think Kobe is better then lebron your smoking crack lol.
82 games a year, both sides of the floor, every night! #MJ
Real talk
Michele Ponte Along side with Rodman and pippin two other multiple Defensive Player of the year😂🤦♂️
@Carl Bryant idk about that bro, those are some false claims you watch a era tougher than mjs the 80s the lakers and celtics played 0 defense🤣
Lmao
You forgot the part where he retired multiple times.. no resting at all I thought? Talking bullshit like every other Jordan fan
Can’t believe this argument still going on these days🤦♂️
MJ the GOAT enough said!
No it's Lebron
Brycen Edwards no
@@brycenedwards648 idiot
Yo… Stephen A. Face While Ryan Is Talking The First Minute 🤣
Call me crazy.. but I’ll take Prime Kobe/Wade over Prime LeBron 🤷🏾♂️
Qdizz *C R A Z Y*
W
Me too
Qdizz I would too yo
Crazy
The way they disrespect Kobe Bryant is blasphemous....5 chips, MVP, all star etc... dont be disrespectful
Give LeBron a prime 3-peat Shaq & he’d be a 7 time champ by 2005. Kobe is literally a Jordan clone that just happened to be a shittier version of the goat. The debate is LBJ & MJ now, nobody cares about Kobe cause his career was a copy off of MJs, and people should stop trying to insert him into the debate.
Wasnt even the best player on the first 3 chips. Without the Diesel he wouldn't even have stayed in LA.
Lebron is a tier above Kobe. I put Kobe on the same level as Tim Duncan. Tied for 10th best all time.
The Good Doctor Why all of a sudden you put LeBron in above Tim Duncan, I hate the debate of players out of position because if you really think about it Tim Duncan really went out and beat LeBron twice in the finals and lost to him once because he got subbed out, in game 6 the spurs were up 3-2 in the series and to rest Tim Duncan Gregg Popovich took out Tim Duncan in the final moment of the 4th quarter which then lead to Chris Bosh getting a rebound and giving it to Ray Allen to win the game, lord knows if Tim Duncan was on the floor he would’ve either got the rebound or made the rebound harder to fight for making Ray Allen unable to get that last shot in, Tim Duncan is the all time leader in defensive team selections meaning he is the defender over the span of his career more than other great defenders, defensively he has LeBron beat easily rebounding he’s a better skilled rebounder Tim Duncan was a clutch player and he really could have won 5 straight finals MVPs that year in 2014 he didn’t win but would’ve been the second choice for his defense and the fact that he averaged an easy double double with great efficiency all at the age of 37 in the finals and in 2007 he should’ve won the finals mvp no hate to Tony Parker but Tim Duncan did lead the spurs in rebounding and blocks easily while being the second option in scoring so really like the voters clearly favored offense when Tim Duncan played both sides, he could have easily been voted as the finals MVP for all his chips and still even with the way it is he has 3 finals mvps and 5 championships and the all time defensive selected not Dikembe not Hakeem just him and defense gets really overlooked when talking about the goats like that’s why Jordan is better than LeBron because unlike LeBron who only goes for the hi-light defensive plays Jordan actually played defense and won an Defensive player of the year, but besides that I don’t think there’s anyone that can challenge Jordan for the GOAT title everyone else currently is fighting for that second best and Tim Duncan surely can be argued for it because even though I did this whole rant about his defense don’t sleep on his offensive skill set which it’s a shame he wasn’t able to show it since Popovich system limits players numbers yet he still had good numbers and rebounding as well
The Good Doctor But your not gonna read everything I said and I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t, but if you did read it all you’d know why I didn’t like what you said about putting LeBron above Tim Duncan that easily, just read what my big comment said to get an idea of what arguments I made for Tim Duncan which shouldn’t have to be said
This is like when you go against your older brothers thinking you actually have a chance to win 😂😂😂
“and Max, you’ve learned well. Congratulations. “
It's funny how analytics show lebron as being this monster but NBA legends and players all pick Kobe. Hmmm.
Not trying to say LeBron is better, but Ryan Hollins, a former NBA player, picked LeBron.
That is because Kobe would try to win the game at all cost. At the end against the clippers, Kobe would call for the ball and shoot threes even if he had a defender in his face to try and get his team back. Lebron on the other hand drove in and passed to Rondo for a three, instead of taking a shot himself. That is the difference.
you have legends picking lbj over mj... look at kareem
@@Hellcat-to3yh who was Ryan Hollins in the NBA?
@@Hellcat-to3yh who is ryan hollins lmao.
“Who he play against?” Really, fool?! Okay... LeBron has only lost to the Warriors twice, he has lost 6... WBA’s the excuse for those other 4? Once MJ made it to the finals he dominated and never looked back. By the way, the game was also much more physical, which required a lot more work on the offensive player, and still as a guard MJ dominated the entire league! And if you don’t know how dope the league was back then, you need to do some research.
Your dismissing the times jordan didnt make it to the finals which was many. Also those other 4 finals he lost two of them he was by himself on the cavs. The last two no excuses especially against the mavs that was a fucking joke Lebron killed his potential goat status with that.
He lost to warriors 3 times buddy and lost to spurs dynasty twice and one mavs brother
Great point
Foh..
You are right bro
props to the guys holdin up bryant jerseys at the back
Stephen A’s laugh at 1:13 😂😂
Put Kobe in the eastern conference and his legacy will be greater.
Daniel Sanchez i agree if kobe was on east he probably be on the finals always and he can be had more rings today
jordan michael Kobe would have 7-8 rings.
Not without a HOF center it would lmao he would most likely miss the playoffs or barely squeak in. Can't carry a team.
Kobe would have a losing finals record to GSW. Put LeBron with Miami for 10 years in the West, he'd win every time he made the finals (undefeated in the finals)
His legacy won't be better, Lebron's legacy is not looking very good anyway, making the finals is not a great accomplishment when talking about being the greatest of all time, these clowns working for the media network are just looking for topic to talk about. 7 straight finals is quite the achievement for sure but it's not an argument you can use in a GOAT debate.
Imagine telling someone Lebron is the GOAT because he lost finals. (making to the finals and not winning)
So no, media won't do the same for Kobe because media for some reason hate Kobe.
Did anybody else laugh when he said lebron was better the Kobe
THE WHOLE WORLD LAUGHED AFTER HEARING THAT BULLSHIT LOL
Ultra Instinct Gohan i wanted to punch him in the fucking eye. and ask what the fuck cam he see lol.
Ultra Instinct Gohan I am a Kobe fan but LeBron is obviously better than Jordan
Anthony Basol your really dumb
Anthony Basol didn’t ever disrespect the greatest off all time
3:47 😂😂max I’m dead
All I know is, no one was coming back on the bulls when they had the lead in a series, and Mike would would never let Jason Terry stand in his way. Mike would never take himself out of a game when his team was getting swept, nor would he ever hide in plain view in big games. I’ve seen lebron inexplicably do all of these things.
Greatest 6 year statistical stretch in most of sports from 84-90 before he won
Then got a 3 peat against magic, Drexler and Barkley
Retired in his prime for 2 years
Come back and immediately got a second 3 peat
Okay but if you look player by player lebron is better, better playmaker passer 3pt shooter bigger taller better rebounder way clutcher then most people think and overal mj had more help played against weaker competition the competitionwas worse way 30 years ago humans develope look at all athletic sports records get broken
Bram mj played against the greatest to ever play his competition was overall harder
BoltLegend84 - No it wasn’t. The league is not only talented in LeBron’s era, but now he has to play them on the same team. And because of conditioning and advancements in sports, the worst players and average players today are better than the worst or average players back then.
@@bram8261 For all his natural gifts LeBron still loses when it's all on the line and this is in a cupcake era. The object is to win not to get stats and Mj does both.
Bram shut the fuck up lebron BARELY better than kawhi
"How do you guard, Lebron James?" Simple.. "Kawhi Leonard" hahahaha
Or Jason terry
In 2011 he scored 8 in the finals when guarded by Jason terry
How do you guard jordan? With gary peyton who has an injured calf.
3:40 kid in the blue just got his mind blowwwwnnn
playing at a high level on a nightly basis is an assasin to me😅
That jazz team was legit! Stockton and malone was legendary
They were really good. I think Malone was even MVP that year. These young kids have no idea what they’re talking about.
Stockton and Malone were choke artists.
How do you guard Lebron ? Put KD or Kobe on him.
Add Kawhi to the mix and LeBron would become passive af
Kawhi would shut jordan down too
@@dloweg4 *insert Kawhi laugh* bitch please lmao. Better defenders than kawhi tried to shut jordan down and failed
Show me where either of them have locked him up lmao
Kawhi
Stephen A is the SITH LORD OF THIS SHIT!!! “Max you’ve learned well” killed me lol 😭😭😭😭
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"how do u guard LeBron James?" *Kawhi in the background*
Kobe Bryant is so disrespected. Jordan>Kobe>LeBron
oskaveli662 lebron is greater than kobe get that into your head already
@@rexdrake6981 In what way? Most players who faces both state that they feared Kobe, not LeBron. So you know more than NBA players who faced both?
oskaveli662 Lebron is more dominant than Kobe
Rex Drake fuck no! U get that in ur head!
The Cadaver Ik Lebron has 4 MVPs 3 FMVPs and had 28 straight points in Detroit in 2007 came back from 3-1 unlike Kobe who blew a 3-1 lead 🤷♂️
Ryan Hollins trash 🗑😂😂
Who the fuck is that Ryan Hollins? He probably was wearing diapers during the MJ & Bad Boys era... the NBA rules now are soft compared to the 90's.
He is trash and truly the definition of a clown
Stephen A schooled this fool
MAX IS STUPID. KOBE IS BETTER THAN LEBRON
This man is great for increasing trp and views for a channel. Thats all he's good for
1:15 when the weed finally kicks in to ur soul
Kobe one day they will all learn to respect you......
Well u aint gonna be around that day!
Kobe.....he only gets respect from real players
Even The Goat *AIR JORDAN* respects Kobe...
@@caponeike exactly bruh. MJ said Kobe was the only person who could beat him.
Lebron has more walk off playoff buzzer beater winners than Jordan and Kobe combined, take your abstract "assasin mentality" bullshit and get out. the "mamba mentality" is something that worked for kobe but its purley a personality preference. If you do something with the "mamba mentality" it doesn't mean more than if you do the exact same thing without the mamba mentality
"How do you guard Lebron"...….dude has been held to 8 points TWICE in the Finals!!!! Come on scrub
spraypaintJT A decade ago though right?
And he's averaged a triple double in the finals so...... Jordan scored 19 points in a game 7 against the pistons in 1990 🤷🏾♂️ bet you forgot all about that didn't you
@@id6992 did you see the way the pistons played defense back then. Put lebron in that situation and he would have been lucky to score 10
Fred C that was his 3rd year and he got 31, 9 & 8!!! Who do you get you’re sources from!?
Carl Bryant he’s lying. Don’t trust Bron fans like that.