5 of the WORST Clone Perpetrated Atrocities During the Clone Wars
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:54 Atraken and Bassadro
3:38 Reign of Terror
7:31 Neimoidian Genocide
9:22 Outro - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, and don't ask what a Clone Trooper what happened on Neimoidia in 19 BBY.
This comment’s gold!
A clone trooper here I’ll explain what happened on Nemoidia we killed a bunch of infant Nemoidans killed a bunch of adult Nemodidans and left nemodia in ruins and that’s basically what happened in 19 BBY.
"Nothing happened on Neimoidia"
Empire propaganda be like
There is no war in Neimoidia
@@felixleong61it’s even worse when you realize that this was the republic before the empire.
War often brings the worst in combatants and the Clone Wars was no different from wars of our own world.
War is corrosive. Not even Jedi are immune to this effect… and surely Palpatine was betting on this when he sought to destroy the reputation of the Sith’s ancient enemies
In other words war corrupts even the most noble individuals.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 At least eventually. Jedi deal with a lot of crap but even they have limits. Very basically, war fucking sucks. When people complain how crappy the Jedi’s attitudes tend to be in SWTOR, it’s probably because they’ve reached that limit. If I had to name one difference between then and the Clone Wars, it’d be the orchestrator, or lack thereof.
It isn't that deep lmao
@@teleportedbreadfor3days even obi-wan admitted that the clone wars taxed them all to their limit.
Considering just how corrupts The Republic was at this point, none of these war crimes fazed me, I expected something like that and *FAR* worse from The Republic at this point. All Palpatine did to The Republic was remove the mask it's been hiding under for a thousand years.
If you think of it, the republic was literally a failed democracy with a military clone junta before officially becoming an empire.
An alien: breathes on Coruscant
The coruscant guard: cowabunga it is.
Someone once said that there’s a difference between war and cruelty. Someone else said that: War IS cruelty.
Is that a Gears of War judgement quote?
@@andresherrera2902 Bingo!
@@masteroftheassassins god I love being correct
@@andresherrera2902 You must hate 99% of your opinions and answers then
@@TheFirstCurse1why would he lmao
It's worth noting that a majority of these happened during the second half of the war, this goes to show just how corrupting Palpatine's influence was as these are atrocities that Geetsly's could of said the Empire did and I don't think anyone would of noticed.
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@@Bilalnoor96 wtf?
Atraken is one of those battles that just cannot be ignored
Grand Army of the Republic: At least we didn't blow up an entire planet!
Imperial Army: You say that like it's a good thing.
" I don't know who the good guys are anymore. But I do know what the enemy is. It's the compromise of principles. You lose the war when you lose your principles"
- Kal Skirata
"Bring out the flamethrowers!"
-Ki Adi Mundi
"I'm not finished yet sir.... We can do this!"
-Captain Keeli
“Hey Sev, this Trandoshan looks like your mother” - Scourge
"I asked the court that the full weight of the law be placed upon you. Including, penalty of Death!" - Admiral Wilhuff Tarkin
The worst part is that the Jedi definitely knew about all these horrible things, but prioritized the war effort over the general safety of the galactic citizens
To be fair to the Coruscant Guard, if the only non-humans you grew up around were Kaminoans, extreme xenophobia is only to be expected.
Yeah
Very true
I don’t think that’s true. 1. A lot of Jedi weren’t human and 2. That’s is equal to saying that if you never saw a black person it is to be expected you hate them with a passion. Having some preconceived stereotypes I can understand, but outwards hate is too extreme. That is a sign of radicalization
@@georgeoust Did you read any of the EU stuff about how the Kaminoans treated the clones? They came by their hate honestly. I assure you, I grew up the only white kid around. The hatred for people you never met compared to the hatred for people who made every moment of your life miserable is a candle next to a bonfire.
"Has this changed how you feel about the Republic at all?"
Can't change whats all ready set in stone
Roger Roger
Armand Isard was such a cruel, evil man, and so was his ilk. I wish the Clone Wars showed more of how evil they were.
*And then there's his daughter Ysanne.*
@@michaelandreipalon359 Ah yes. She was...unhinged, to put it lightly.
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 You know you're insane when your clone that thinks it's you thinks that your plan was insane.
I like how it mirrors real life, in every war both sides commit atrocities
Battle of Atraken is like the battle of Verdun or the battle of Bakhmut, literally the worst of the war. Literal hell. This is a living testament to why wars must only exist in fiction.
There was a Poe Dameron comic book that featured Neimodian barons who rented old empty treasure vaults on cato neimodia as glorified storage for high value objects. While I prefer the horrible punishments their kind endured in legends, this canon comic still shows that the Neimodians lost a lot. They may still have their buildings, but they will never have the great wealth of the Trade Federation.
Disney engaged in gentrification. Removed much of the context and depth. Frankly, as far as I am concerned Disney & it's ideas are Heresy.
To quote the Holy Inquisition (Ordo Hereticus) redeem them with fire bolt and blade!
If they haven’t done this yet, a gritty clone wars novel with the tone close to WH40K would be cool
Nothing beats 40K's sheer insanity, especially the bit about 4 Satans invading the reality and humanity having to go through hell itself to go places.
No juice left in him either
In times of war, there will come to a point where the monster inside you will show itself and that's when you inflict even more violence to the enemy you're fighting.
True since as an American we have blood on our hands with nuking Japan(since they wouldn’t surrender), Obama’s drone strikes, and Sherman’s March to Sea.
The first one that immediately came to my mind (before seeing the video) is the torching of the Geonosians in the Weapons Factory act.
To be fair the grand army of the Republic never had the guidelines of the Geneva Convention so technically there were no war crimes
Don't forget kids: It ain't a war crime if you are on the winning side
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Darth Sidious deliberately set up the majority, if not all, of these atrocities. They were tragedies and the loss of life should never be dismissed. However, these events had a purpose...to see how much the people of the Republic cared for their neighbors.
The Clone Wars saw the end of the Republic, which stood for millennia. A Republic that stood for justice, equality (in a small sense), acceptance, and a hunger for growth. When Darth Sidious came into power, he knew the galaxy would never accept a Sith rule outright. The spirit of the galaxy, the citizens themselves, had to be corrupted first. Second, the heart of galaxy, the galactic senate and all who sought peace had to be silenced. And finally, the true Guardians of peace, the Jedi Order, had to be destroyed.
A truly evil being will test his enemy while hiding in the shadows. Testing the enemy to see how they react. Darth Sidious kept hurting the people to see who would come in to treat the wounds. When less and less people cared, his actions got darker and darker.
Palpatine didn't need to make the Republic an evil Empire, he just had to show the galaxy that it already was one.
In hindsight, Anakin killing a bunch of younglings wasn't the worst thing anyone did for the Republic.
That wasn't for the republic, that was for the sith.
@@colbylawson5331 I don't think Anakin knew the difference.
With all these Republic atrocity videos, you’ve gotta do one on the Jedi during the Clone Wars. Specifically, one on how much of the Republic’s condemnable activities the Jedi/Order were aware of, how many they were kept in the dark about, what some of those atrocities were and how Palpatine kept things out of Jedi Order’s grasp and meddling. Because the Republic under Palpatine did such appalling crap to people, planets and the Separatists, that there’s no way the Order did not even remotely consider the possibility of leaving the Republic at one point during the conflict. If breaking away from the Republic never crossed the Jedi High Council’s mind because of Palpatine or a Sith Lord being at large, I can honestly see or imagine why, but I still need to know. You’ve been leaving out a big equation for a while now, Geetsly.
Agreed. I mean just look at what happened at Nemodia with the grub hatcheries, present at that battle where Obi-Wan and Anakin, along with Cody and Rex, and I have a hard time believing any of them either knew or approved of burning the grub hatcheries. Obi-wan and Rex are generally good people, Cody as the Bad Batch has shown is also a decent dude, and even Anakin despite his dark side tendency, including killing kids before(Tuskan Raiders), I doubt he would have given the order since as the Mortois arc and even Episode 2 shows he regrets what he did and thinks he should be better then that because he's a Jedi, plus with Obi-Wan, Rex, and Cody there to keep him in check I doubt he would have been able to give the order. Sure some Jedi like Empatojayos Brand were dicks and would have either given the order to burn the grub hatchers or just not cared if someone else gave the order, but the likes of Obi-Wan, Anakin, and their Clones wouldn't. So that begs the question, who gave that order at Nemodia and how were they able to cover it up from those at the battle who wouldn't approve of it.
@@zexalbrony4799 Obviously either Palpatine himself or a non-Clone higher ranking officer in charge of the battle gave the order, one who had been influenced by Palpatine’s subtle seeds of hate and imperialism. The bombing of the Jedi Temple could have given Palpatine the opportunity to have the Republic strike Nemodia with extreme prejudice. The Jedi would never commit such an abhorrent act, of course, but even as many of them became battle weary, I know they wouldn’t allow such genocide to proceed while they were there. More than that, the Jedi would absolutely protest the Republic’s commitments to such atrocities if they knew they were happening. My best guess is that Palpatine managed to undermine the Jedi and ensure they remained unaware of what the Republic had become or they’d have acted or left them, both of which would have been bad for Palpatine’s true plans.
Btw, Anakin’s slaughter of the Tuskan Raiders is very different, because he was stricken with great grief when his mother died in his arms, who the Tuskan Raiders tortured to death in a study of the strength of the ‘enemy’.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days In that case, it was probably Palpatine himself, since the only non-Clone, non-Jedi, officer present at the battle was Jan Doodonna, and I have my doubts he gave the order. So it was probably Palpatine directly or indirectly, probably giving the order to a hard-ass Commando Unit like Delta Squad that wouldn't think twice about disobeying such a horrible order.
Agreed and another reason I believe Anakin wouldn't have given the order since he wasn't grieving and in pain and would be able to think clearly, especially with Obi-Wan and the others there.
@@zexalbrony4799 Anakin’s slaughter of the Tuskan Raiders didn’t define his character like that, imo.
But this Jan guy, was he not influenced by Palpatine’s subtle hate? And if he knew the Clones were burning grub hatcheries, would he assume they were simply acting in the Republic’s interest?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days True. I was agreeing with that with my comment if it wasn't clear I do apologize for that.
Perhaps. Maybe Geetsly should do a video on Jan's character or something, or a video on several of the iconic Rebel Leaders in general, so we can learn how many of them were really good guys and how many were just people who wanted to stick it to the Empire because they didn't want to be caught for their legitimate crimes. After all, not everyone fighting the Empire was doing it for good noble reasons, and even some of the ones that were could go way too far like Saw.
Here's the thing about saying the CIS were worse; the CIS were *supposed* to commit those war crimes as part of the Grand Plan. General Grievous was placed in charge of the *Droid* army for that very reason, he didn't have a strong moral compass. Furthermore, the CIS parliament nor organic leaders/units had any say in the running of the military, as the entire droid army was still owned by the various corporations aligned to Palpatine. They themselves *wanted this Separatist movement to fail* for fairly obvious reasons, but the Sith had offered them the opportunity to profit from it, which of course they took. They had 'pledged' their armies to Dooku's cause, but since they were technically the 'separatist council' and still neutral, they could do absolutely anything they wanted with their droids and no one but the sith could stop them. The actions on Ryloth did not benefit the CIS *at all,* heck initially Ryloth was mildly sympathetic to the CIS. For the Sith it was an opportunity to A. secure Ryloth's loyalty to Republic and B. Show the galaxy that separatist/rebel movements are violent terrorism. For the Techno Union, it was to plunder Ryloth's wealth. That money was going to Wat Tambor's *neutral* coffers, not to the CIS. Unlike with clone atrocities, the droids themselves cannot blamed for their actions as they are much more strictly controlled by various inhibitor chip-like circuitry.
Out of hatred for the Trade Federation, I declare Exterminatus upon the Separatist world of Cato Neimoidia.
It wouldn’t be star wars if there wasn’t some war crimes
I love how before the Heresy (Disney); Star Wars was such a deep fictional universe.
Pity that is being missed by those growing up under Disneyfication
The Senate perpetrated the Clone Wars itself.
There’s a saying “to the point of” this:
Your side isn’t good as you say much as your enemy is not as bad as you say.
What most ppl need to realize is there is no true good side in wars. Both sides will always believe that their the ones in the right when their doing just as bad stuff as their enemy is. You basically just have to end up choosing who you believe is the lesser evil but its still evil no matter what
This should be every Clone Wars episode with Anakin and Obi-Wan.
Geetsly's, I do not know if you read your comment section , but if you do I has some SW questions that might make for a good video. 1st is how many planets did they show in the Clone Wars animated series. I have also wondered how much screen time the Clone Wars animates show gave to its major characters compared to the original trilogy. Maul compared to Vader, Ahsoka compared to any of the live action jedi, Exc. A lot of these questions come from debates that i have had with other CZcamsrs where i argued that Ahsoka in animation form had more on screen development than any of the live action jedi. Or how much more on screen development Maul got vs any of the villains or heroes in the films. Or even say Ventress or Hondo vs live action vader. I though it might make for a good video & i think the subject fits your channel well. Just a thought.
The astra militarum : you call that a warcrime ?
Clone army :.....
Astra militarum : here watch and learn
Long live the Republic!
Hello there
Im just now realizing that Sundowner wouldve loved the republic ...
I never get one thing when it comes to those who are fans of Star Wars and fans of Attack on Titan. When it's Star Wars, most fans eventually sided with the Separatists after knowing how awful, brutal, corrupt and imperialistic the Republic really is even before Palpatine formally declared it as the Empire. But when it comes to Attack on Titan, there are still some fans who decided to side with Marley despite the obvious fact about how much awful, brutal, corrupt and imperialistic Marley is and also unwilling to acknowledge that the Eldians on Paradis did not do anything wrong and that the Rumbling is the justified self-defense. I don't even know why they thought the world under the Marleyan rule with the threat of the Rumbling to anyone who resisted their regime is even a good option in the first place. And I know that most civilians do not cared if they lived under the dictator's rule or not as long as they have basic needs for themselves. But I doubted the Marleyans will cared about those who are not Marleyans just like how the Republic did not care about those "Separatists species" and suspected them of treason and having them deported or even killed on sights.
I wouldn't say most fans side with the Separatists. That may be common on this channel, but that would require ignoring the fact that the Separatists were _way_ worse.
After all, most of these atrocities were pretty understandable in the context of a war. It's an ugly thing to round up the -Japanese- suspected enemy sympathizers, but it's also the sort of thing that's been done in just about every large-scale war since history began. Likewise, burning _Hiroshima and Nagasaki_ Cato Neimoidia is a terrible thing to do, but it's also... well, frankly, how wars between states are won.
Contrast that with the Separatists, whose war crimes tend to fall into the "for the lulz" category.
@@stevenschnepp576 The Republic commits war crimes on many occasions too. And false surrender is one of the most common among them. Don't believe me, even Obi-Wan and Anakin did them on regular basis. We all know that false surrender is one of the major reasons why the Separatists have no interest in negotiating with the Republic on the Republic's terms because they have no reason to trust them after being duped once. Heck, it's also the Republic that forced the Separatists to make Jabiim uninhabitable in the first place with constant bombing and attacks.
If we learned anything from WW2 it’s only a war crime if you lose. 😂
7:51-8:01: Okay I actually have a question about that. Um, who exactly gave the order to kill Neimoidian children in the battle?
I mean looking at the Republic leaders in that battle it's tough to say exactly. The leadership included Obi-Wan, Anakin, Kit Fisto, Captain Rex, Commander Cody, Jan Dodonna, and Clone Commander Deviss a Clone in Commander Bly's 327th Star Corps. There is no way Obi-Wan or Rex would have ever given such an order, Anakin while he does have Dark Side tendency and has killed kids before(Tuskan Raiders) as we saw in the Mortis arc and his own feelings about his anger over not being a better Jedi I doubt he gave the order, especially with Oobi-Wan and Rex there to keep him in check, I doubt Cody did it either as Bad Batch has shown us he is an alright dude who actually cares about helping civilians and the like so I doubt he ordered the death of kids. That leaves us with Kit Fisto, Jan Dodonna, and Deviss, now for Fisto and Dodonna they seemed like okay dudes, sure Dodonna did serve the Empire when it first formed but so did many others and like those others like Cody when he realized how bad the Empire was and how it no longer represented any real good like the Republic he eventually left, so I have a hard time believe either of these two gave the order, but then again, maybe I don't know these two as well as I think, then there's Deviss a Clone I don't know too much about so it's possible there as big a dick as Fox or Faie so they could have given the order. Or maybe none of them gave the order and Palpatine just sent a Commando Squad or something to the battle to secretly do his dirty work with out the actually good and decent Jedi and Clones in the battle knowing about it. Its hard to tell exactly how this happened.
Where is Honogrh?
What a good way to start off the day:
War Crimes!
What was the Republic involvement on Geonosis prior to the Clone Wars? did any of the inner Republic have knowledge of Geonosis prior to the first battle of the clone wars?
yes they had interactions with the republic
"It's not a war crime if you win"
George Washington
I might look imperial, but my heart is with the seperatists .
It's never a war crime the first time.
Those neimoidians had it coming
It's only a war crime if you lose.
3:44: Is it me, or did the video just glitch out at this time stamp?
war and atrocities go hand and hand
Okay, this may be a pointless point, but I like to point out all of these are in Legends. I’ll grant the Coruscant Guard entry as an exception since even though we never have any Canon mentions of their actions, Fox’s behavior as well as the notable fact their unit was the only one to keep their colored armor in the Imperial Era is a bit telling of the Coruscant Guard’s standing with Palpatine. Still, Canon Jedi are different from Legends Jedi, to an extent. Both do eventually resort to extreme measures, as Dark Disciples shows the Jedi deciding to assassinate Count Dooku, though it’s a little telling they only make this dark choice just months before the events of Revenge of the Sith and after Dooku personally orders a genocide. Of course, Canon Republic has at least one atrocity just months after the First Battle of Geonosis when Tarkin killed plenty of innocents on Murhkana to shut down the Shadowfeed Network. Still when it comes to Republic war crimes in Canon, most of them are desperate acts instead of something that just happened like the mass killing of Nemoidian babies. Legends Clone Wars are written with both sides being the same shade of grey. Canon Clone Wars is more of the Separatists are a darker shade of grey and the Republic is a lighter shade of grey. Speaking of Clone Wars morality, I always have torn feelings when I think about what Separatist citizens would say if they knew the truth. On one hand, I have little doubt they would quickly revolt against Dooku and the military for being such monsters and manipulators. On the other hand, that means exposing the hero of millions as being a fraud and killer of millions. Dooku is evil in my eyes, but I don’t think I would feel comfortable telling a Separatist about the truth of their faction. I mean, how do you tell someone whose sick of corruption that they followed a leader who was using them to turn their enemy into an evil empire? It feels like telling a kid there parent or sibling is a terrible person.
L;egends. Cannon... Whats the difference. you are trying to rationalize genocide. Thats inexcuseable.
@@shep9231 Because in Canon these events so far haven’t happened. The two continuities have some things play out the same and other things are different. To be fair as even I said in that comment, even Canon Republic is a shade of grey and I feel bad for Separatists civilians who find out the truth since they aren’t like the Separatist military officers, hence why Dooku makes sure they don’t learn the truth. Still an examination of Canon Clone Wars media and Legends Clone Wars media shows there’s a bit of a difference in tone. Honestly, the Canon fall of the Republic comes off as more of a tragedy than the Legends version. The TV Tropes character page on Clone Troopers basically points this out with the relationship between Jedi and Clones. You can even see this difference in Dooku. The Revenge of the Sith Legends novel makes Dooku out to be a bigot while Canon Dooku seems more classy. The massacre Dooku orders in Dark Disciple is more of like a warning then Dooku being anti-alien.
Atraken still happened, we just don't know the details. And I always fill stuff with Legends details where canon is lacking.
@@user-yq9im9dk9z Well, to each their own. I used to do the same in my head canon, but Star Wars Canon has lately made the point of trying to be different from Legends.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 I agree. The Prequils, despite their many flaws, framed the fall of the Republic and the Jedi as a tragedy, even since the beginning in A New Hope when Obi-Wan mentioned, "For over a thousand years the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice in the old Republic, before the dark times, before the Empire."
So it makes more sense in Canon to frame the Republic, at first, as the better side during the first few seasons of The Clone Wars, saving innocent lives, freeing captured planets, Jedi, and even some Officers treating Clones with respect and like actual people and forming bonds with them. But as the war drags on and we get into the later season's things get darker, people are killed in more brutal ways than just getting shot or stabbed, and the Republic starts making more desperate moves and acts to win the war to preserve their people's lives, Palpatine starts gaining more power until he has more than any good Senator, Jedi, or Officer so he can overrule any good they try to do and gives some of that power to those stupidly loyal to him or just as cruel as him. The Republic wasn't doomed to become the Empire when the war started there was always a chance it could have been saved, but as the war dragged on, like Palpatine planned, all the good was eventually eroded away until only the bad remained so that it becoming an Empire would be inevitable.
Do this for the other major factions plzzzz
Can u do a video about the battles of legends galactic civil war second galactic civil war and yuuzhan vong war similar to how u did the clone wars battles video
Clones are so cool I literally don’t care if they burn my home town
Their armor is way cooler than the Imperial Stormtroopers
Was unaware republic genocided that first mining planet
I feel bad for the neimoidians.
Why tho? They singlehandedly made countless planets in the outer rim suffer, they deserved that punishment.
@@SidorovichGaming not all of them were involved with the trade federation or any shady business especially not their children.
PT: We’re just Prequels, fan. The fandom sees us as cash cows. *Fans of both the original & prequel trilogies*
Fans: Not to us.
Both sides had blood on their hands. Well that's no surprise. It's pretty common in any war.
Coruscant Guard gets a lot of hate but imagine all responsibility, as well as direct orders given by Palpatine?
They had a different kind of job, sort of like a "National Guard" of the GAR, and its Coruscant. The Capital of the Republic (and Galactic Center) itself.
I have one thing to say
Just like the simulations!
Geetsly’s team, this may be a bit horrifying, but are you aware that even on Earth, often times, the legal response to a war crime is another war crime?
For instance, it’s a crime to not accept surrendering enemy forces, except in cases where said enemy has already performed false surrender(s).
The Republic committed atrocities, yes, but the whole war started over a series of major violations of Intergalactic Law, the repeatedly-attempted assassination, forced imprisonment, and then attempted execution without trial of a sovereign head-of-state, Padmé Amidala.
On this planet, many people already call drone warfare criminal. How many people in the star wars galaxy do you think were horrified by the idea of legions of drone occupiers taking over planets?
How many innocents did the Separatist drone forces neutralize?
The truth is, both the Republic and separatists were evil. But the Seps were evil on purpose, Palpatine wanted them to be, so he can justify crushing them mercilessly. The republic used to be good, but those times were long gone. I personally don't see anything wrong with oppressing aliens, but the late republic and the Empire oppressed everyone, including humans, so they definitely were evil.
It’s a fictional universe I highly dought the giniva (definitely spelled that wrong) convention existed and war is war. Regardless of what you do innocent people die it’s a part of it
I do wish we had seen more stuff like this in the Clone Wars TV show, but that would require the showrunners to pull their heads out of their asses and commit to making a show that isn't meant for children. The Clone Wars hinted at some dark stuff, but never actually showed anything that egregious. I know a lot of people find the grimdark aesthetic to be off-putting, but the lore is so much more interesting. We should have got an episode that showed us how little the people of the Republic knew about the war. And when they did find out, how little they cared. Obviously there are exceptions, but for the most part they couldn't care less who did what on what planet, unless it was the Separatists, and even then, that was expected.
the idea of "human centrism" kinda goes completely against the world set up in the films
Divorce can be so bitter sweet. Now what am I attacking attracting. Oh yeah , I'm a grunt that don't need a c___ ? Context regarding vene vidi vici .
naw, it doesnt change my mind about the republic. just reinforces that it needed to fall for the Empire to take over.
Legends still showing why it’s superior to canon
What you call an atrocitie , I call a victory.
To be honest, Neimodians deserved what happened to them. Just like the Geonosians. Palpatine did the right thing here.
Can we get a video on the Mandalorian war and war crimes
republic? what republic? i see just the empire before it was officially the galactic empire
Who tf is that beach ball man?
Empatojayos Brand
These remind me of the ones I committed in Bosnia
Ok bro I get it, the republic is based, you don’t have to keep convincing me 😭
Hm that opening definitely reminds of the world wars one side is portrayed as the "good guys" buuut theyre no better is not worse *cough cough* soivet union *cough cough* than the the supposed bad guy
Lets not forget the Dresden and Nuremberg bombings, the soviet rape of berlin, and unarmed german soldiers that were murdered
Nah it’s the Republic, so it’s ok. The Jedi approve.
If you think that's bad that's just another tuangsday in Warhammer 40 k 😂
2:34 can someone give me context to this image?
Look for Empatojayos Brand.
It is from Dark Empire I think. The Emperor has lost his physical body and is attempting to spirit transfer into one of Han and Leias children. The hover dude absorbed the Emperor instead and then blows himself up, if I remember correctly.
why does that look like its from fallout 4? 5:20
Idk deporting Nemoidians was absolutely based and morally correct
This changes nothing. It just draws further attention to how terrible the republic actually was. It's kinda odd that after so long, there still hasn't been a good galactic government in SW. Every especially powerful ruling body that had a larger scale in the galaxy had serious problems, usually intentional. The best one so far is probably the new republic in Disney canon, and even that is full of incompetent people with massive security problems, a lack of effective military to deal with problems like pirates and possible groups of remnant imperials causing problems, and a bureaucratic mess of a main structure which certainly led to decisions being too slow and likely ineffective. The only reason I say it's any better than the ones before it is that they at least intend to be nicely run, and are just bad at it.
I'm not considering the extremely early stuff like the old republic era, because I just haven't seen enough of it to be sure how that republic was. If it was better than the three major governments most are familiar with, I just wouldn't know.
I don't really know what to think because the TV show the clones as these upright and righteous soldiers and painted them as tho they would never or had never done anything wrong, but legends say otherwise, so I don't if I should see both as cannon or if because legends contradict the way the clones are represented should that render the comics invalid?
Well on both geonosis and umbara we see clones execute injured/unarmed native soldiers. That's a big warcrime right in front of our eyes. The separatist at least take prisoners.
@@lucagerulat307 I think the CIS were hit&miss with taking prisoners. Droids will only take prisoners if ordered, or programmed to accept a sign of surrender. We see mass surrender in the Mon-Cala arc, but unflinching slaughter on Christophsis aside from Kenobi dealing with an organic commander. Of course it is at the convenience of the plot when anyone gets captured by anyone else, but I haven't a good excuse yet.
Deportations = based and logical
This is Canon for me!
Its incredible how Mace Windo alone killing over 100 thousand battle droids does not constitute a war crime or even a genocide.
Almost like they were droids...
Bro there droids and clones bought and paid for
Droids are machines. If the separatists used, say, an organic army, then maybe.
Based Republic
Not a war crime if its funny enough
Unpopular Opinion: Low key societal take on US/West actions in the last century. 🤷🏼♂️
Supreme Chancellor Palpatine did nothing wrong.
No matter what, I still support the Republic. I've seen too much of it's good not to. I do wish you would talk about the good side of the Republic since you always seem to focus on the negative, but at least you mentioned that most Jedi and Clones only wanted to defeat the enemies on the battlefield and not in their homes, and that Jedi leadership kept several of the more bloodthirsty officers in check, for the most part since some Jedi were ruthless and brought shame to the order like the aforementioned Empatojayos Brand, I mean seriously, what he did on Bassadro was a dick move, the Republic was winning they weren't desperate or anything there was no reason to overkill like that. If I wasn't so loyal to you Geetsly I would probably leave because of all this Republic bashing. But the Clones taught me the importance of loyalty, as Anakin said, "Loyalty means everything to the Clones."
Also, what happened on Orleon was tragic, but only because they were innocent. If they had actually orchestrated that attack I would have wanted to retaliate, especially if I lived on Courascant because they attacked my home and threatened my people and friends, I wouldn't be able to just sit there and let that slide after all that, I would want some form of retribution. Maybe it was a bit too much, but still, I would want some payback if they were responsabile so they didn't get away scott-free. Heck, there are a few Rebels(and I don't just mean the lunatics like Saw Gerra and his group) that I would want some revenge against because they killed Clones in the early years of the Empire. I've always looked up to most Clones as heroes, which is why I'm happy the Bad Batch, Rex, and many others are stunning and subduing Clones in the early years of the Empire because most Clones don't deserve to be killed, most of them are innocent. So if I lived in the Star Wars universe then after the Empire fell, I would go up to any surviving Rebel that had killed a Clone and say: "Hey, jerk! You killed Clones! They were my friends! You think I'm just going to let that slide! No way! I'm going to start punching you until I'm satisfied and spoilers it's going to be a while until I'm satisfied. I mean will take beaks obviously because I still don't want to kill you just hurt for what you did, plus will probably take breaks to eat and stuff to keep our strength up, there's actually a good Space Subway in this Sector of the galaxy we should go to for that."
I wonder if there is a Separatist atrocities video. Not just about individuals like General Grievous but the Separatist as a whole.
@@truxtonbrown9151 Techincoly no, but there is a Geetsly video where he talks about all the terrible things the Separatist Council did during the war, and honstly some of those things they did make some of these Republic crimes look kind of tamed, espically all the stuff Shu Mai did.
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You're starting to sound like a separatist. The Republic had it's problems but it was definitely the lesser of the 2 evils. It had mostly good people (like jedi and the good senators and officers in the military) in charge of oversight to try to make sure these kinds of things didn't happen all the time. Meanwhile the people in charge of the separatist military (like dooku, grevious and the separatist council were either carrying out these evil acts or were incouraging others to. When the rebellion was being built the Republic loyalists didn't want too many separatists to join them because they didn't want to be associated with them.
The problem is, they both were quite evil, but I don't see any problems with speciesm. Humans are obviously superior, and species like Neimodians deserve only to be underlings to much more superior humankind.
Oh yeah good senators like orn free taa and very moral and humanistic officers like Tarkin lol.
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Cue the releasing of TCW 2008 fandom disillusionment floodgates, hehe.
The Neimoidians deserved the pain, though. May the tragedy slowly but surely liberate them from their all too damning societal "values".
This video here is proof as to why there was no good side in the Clone Wars, the Jedi should have known this. But their blind loyalty to the Republic led them down a dark path. Palpatine didn't destroy the Jedi, the Jedi destroyed themselves when they chose the Republic over the galaxy.
They deserved to die for betraying their duty to the Force. Palpatine was the right side in this conflict, he showed everyone why the Jedi were terrible and the Republic was a failure.
Palpatine was the true hero of the Clone Wars. He loves democracy, he watches careers with great interest, he likes welcome surprises, and he knows about good stories the Jedi don't know about. Palpatine is the greatest good in all of Star Wars.
yeah those younglings deserved to die for betraying the force.
Nah good riddance, Nimodia. That's just universal pest control
Just like Geonosians, they deserved it