Ruger PCC vs S&W Response Carbine
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Several subscribers asked us to compare the Ruger PCC to the new S&W Response carbine. Both carbines shoot the ubiquitous 9mm round and utilize popular pistol magazines associated with the brand specific handguns of their respective manufacturer and a conversion kit to use Glock magazines.
Pistol Caliber Carbines (PCCs), allow the operator to use the same ammunition and magazines that are used in their semi-automatic pistol. Since the 9mm has minimal felt recoil, PCCs are enjoyable to shoot, especially for newer shooters. Economically the 9mm cartridge offers advantages over centerfire calibers which tend to be more expensive to shoot. Finally many three gun competitions allow users to compete with PCCs.
In our testing the S&W Response and the Ruger PCC both performed will. Providing a light weight, accuracy, and reliability. We got good gtoups at 25 and 50 yards, and we're able to consistently knockdown steel silhouettes at 100 yards.
The Ruger and the S&W and also fill a role in service as a personal protection, home defense tool.
Carbines like the two shown in this video, are easier to shoot the pistols because they offer multiple points of contacts. This facilitates the abiloity to enge targets at greater distances and a shorter learning curve for newer, less experienced shooters,
For people looking for a carbine that uses the same ammunition and magazines as their handgun, these two carbines are well worth consideration.
Ruger is a registered trademark of Ruger Inc
Glock is a registered trademark of Glock Inc
S&W is a registered trademark of Smith and Wesson Corp.
Love the oozing sarcasm in the polymer frame comment. Got a Sub2000 as a retirement gift. I added some enhancements but stayed with peep sights. Lots of fun.
Just a heads up, anyone choosing the S&W, check the build date. The early ones need to go back for a modification on the bolt. If it was built before 2-14-24, get it fixed, free of charged.
Thanks for your review/comparison. I'm a Glock and AR fan. The S&W Response was the perfect answer to my needs.
Nice! My dad and I were looking at these and trying to decide which one we'd like. My pops has carpal tunnel and 9mm Handguns are really easy for him to load, cycle, and fire without too much trouble, so I figured these carbines would be perfect for him. I'm glad you posted this, should make our (to clarify, I want one too, they look like a lot of fun) next purchase an easy decision. Keep up the great work man, been loving the content lately!
I love my Ruger pcc. It looks alot better with all the new body parts. Even added a bi-pod on the front. Very accurate and lots of fun..
Great presentation! I was in the market for a while now shopping for an AR style firearm chambered in 9MM.
I'm so glad u did this video was thinking of getting one of these
Really good. Thanks
Very nice presentation.
I did add a blue laser on the front chin of my forearm just in case and a canted foregrip too keep things tight. I know your saying a Blue laser really. Really this thing is amazing it is rechargeable, its very durable it has withstood hundreds of rounds with my Ruger PCC and every time I turn it on its lined right up with my red dot and iron sights.
I put the Holosun 403G with the riser and now I can look through that and use my iron sights. My Ruger PCC now looks alot like the picture on the TANDEMKROSS Uprisor Chassis box to include a pistol grip, only I have the canted stock version and a Mission First minimalist stock. When I purchased my Ruger PCC it was in the American flag version with the MLOC forearm and traditional rear stock. The stock and forearm are now painted a Patriot pearl blue. It is a very accurate and reliable tool. Chambered in widely available 9MM ammunition. I like the Response for what it is a 9mm AR PCC.
Great video. Now a subscriber. 👍
You can add iron sights to the S&W and co witness with your red dot.
I use the Sig MSR red dot that has the raised skeletonized mount. I can look under the red dot and right through the irons when I want. The red dot doesn’t seem too high at all. I can comfortably use it to hit targets at various ranges. It’s actually made me think about putting a raised Vortex 3x prism on it and use irons for close range and the optic for long. Though there’s realistically no need to I guess, but it could be done.
I was considering these two rifles and went with the response. Ultimately it came down to the familiarity of the weapons platform in terms of take down and function. It matches all my other AR platform rifles. The ruger is nice with the added iron sights but I like the incresed sight radius MBUS flip ups afford on the response. Really you cant go wrong with either and both are solid.
Hi, great video. I wanted to add that if you use a vortex red dot on your Ruger PC it is high enough where you can see your iron sights as well
Nice video 👍 It would have been a better comparison if you had the Ruger chassis version with adjustable stock. That’s the one I have and love it’s versatility. I added a folding stock so I can backpack it with my Security 9 The S&W is a nice option though but not for me.
I got the S&W response and the first 200 rounds went without a hiccup. The charging handle will take some getting used to and though it looks a bit rickety with all the polymer, it is a good shooter with iron sights. Just don't torque down too much on the MLOC rail when attaching accessories since it is polymer too. I'm sure the Ruger is fine and I considered it, but the lighter weight of the Response and a non-break barrel sealed the deal for me.
This is an informative post. I like that. I have to say this about that. Smith and Wesson did not build the response to Ruger's PCC in the traditional stock set up. There Response was in relation to the Ruger PCC MLOC with adjustable butt stock much like an AR-9 nothing like the one your showing here. They were able to join the Glock world. He HE
I own the Ruger PC Carbine in 40 S&W and considering a PC Carbine for 9mm and tried the cheek the S&W FPC but I just can't cheek it without my eye glasses getting in the way, I imagine that the Keltec Sub 2000 is pretty much the same way. What I like about the Ruger PC Carbine is that is doesn't have a pistol grip and is NOT classified by gun grabbers in Kommufornia as an "Assault Weapon".... I love Iron sights and the Ruger PC Carbine's iron sights are dead on!!! I'm leaning toward the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm...