Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Honest Review
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The king of... exactly - what? There's one area in which the Tiger 900 Rally wins the competition in its class. In this video I'm telling you what it is and sharing my honest thoughts about this motorcycle after spending some time with it.
All views are my own and are based on my personal experiences with the Tiger 900 Rally. Stay tuned and subscribe for more middleweight adventure bikes and comparisons between them on the channel!
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The triumph quickshifter is leagues better than the BMW GS. The clutch lever can be adjusted as far in as you want. It’s a cable clutch, just spin the nob on the cable… The handlebars aren’t too far forward, you are just sitting too far back on your seat lol. You’ll have WAY more control if you sit your butt all the way forward on your seat. Keep your toes tucked inward, not outward, with the ball of your foot on the pegs. The 900 rally pro is also an incredible bike off-road.
It's a press bike. It probably never had a pre delivery inspection and it's had the 💩 kicked out of it. Some of his experiences with this bike are bizarre.
Good review, thanks. Please test the updated version when it becomes available, and how does it respond to counter steering for leaning into corners?
Strange to be honest... I have been riding this bike for 2 years now. I tour the Alps 3 times. I have no issues what so ever with handlining. It swallows the difficult mountain twisties easily, I was even surprised I was going on difficult road better than others around me on sport touring bikes?? And I only have motorcycle licence for 2.5 years, so I am by no means super experience or great rider, so it was mostly bikes abilities. In my opinion it is close to perfection for all rounder, explorer bike.
So in 2.5 years how many bikes have you ridden as thoroughly as Vtold? 🤨
Yes, you have a good point. But what I am saying is that I did not have ANY issues with the Tiger 900 Rally Pro. I am comparing my rides with many other bikes around me with no issues what so ever I was as fast and as smooth on the road as any bikes or better (e.g I was as fast on twisties as GS's, AfricaTwins, Versys etc etc). I have only ridden about 12 bikes so far, but it is also some fair comparison. @@maldridge7630
Yeah, it's a matter of a reference point. For years I've been riding a Suzuki V-Strom 1000 and would just take it as it was and only when I started experiencing different ones, I would get to realise that there can be major differences. It's a matter of perspective. Some say that if you want to stay happy with a current bike, simply don't try others ;). It may sound sarcastic but it also makes a lot of sense in some circumstances.
@@VToldsMotoShow how is the handling in comparison to the bmw f800gs? I like the soft suspension it has and I had no real issues with the handling when doing a 5k km trip true the alps.
@vtoldmoto I see you mentioned comfy suspension. As an owner of 2 years who has put 10000kms. I can say that if you dial suspension to soft, handling is shit and if you make it hard, it is amazing. Because with soft rebound, the rake angle increases suddenly, making it stand up, which doesnt happen with hard setting. I use soft on dirt and hard on road. I get that with your limited experience, your honest review is your honest opinion. Try different suspension setting next time like MAD TV does here in Australia
How is the suspension when compared with suzuki vstorm 800 de. You mentioned that suzuki’s was as good as bmw 1250. So what would be your conclusion now after driving the 900 rally
The resemblance to BMW R 1250 GS in a V-Strom 800DE is in medium speed handling, so how easy and eager it is to turn. In terms of suspension itself and how it deals with bumps so mostly comfort, Tiger 900 Rally is in my opinion an absolute king of the segment and the most comfortable motorcycle in its class.
I think you can adjust the handle bars back as theres three positions
rear brake level can be adjusted by flipping the peg.... reviewers not knowing how the bike works sucks. Just need to rotate the peg of the rear brake pedal and it lowers it.
Correct mate, needs a bit more research by the reviewer. Maybe he can ask longtime owners on social media as he is spending time with the bike.
Judging from the service light and what appears to be be long over service days along with no doubt being an abused press bike. That’s probably why your seeing transmission issues. My 900 Rally shifts butter smooth and doesn’t jump outta gear.
As far as I remember, it might've been reaching its first 1000 km and was just about to get its first service.
A fine review of the 900 Tiger rally version, which is the channel's brand image.
I was impressed by your opinion about the comfort of the suspensions. Do you compare them to BMW 1250 GSA comfort?
I'm a little upset with the strong change that BMW has made to the GS, not the overall technological enhancements which I aplaude, but the narrowing of the bike in general terms was a deception for me. I hope they don’t mess up the same way with the GSA version, because in that case I might be open to other Market proposals like Triumph Tiger 1200 GT…I enjoy big bikes and if they go on shrinking the entire lineup, I must start looking elsewhere for strong heavy hardware bikes, because that’s what I like in big bikes, not the slimmest, not the small types, but the heavy duty type of bikes. I like powerful and kinda heavy, solid bikes that endure all type of work we throw on them. So, this far, BMW was my best pattern, but I’m feeling they might want to go on different direction, “less is more”, and those kind of thoughts. And I’m all ears and eyes nowadays.
Thanks once again! ✌️✌️
Let's see if there will be an Adventure version of the 1300. As for suspension comfort, this Tiger 900 Rally is really really good. I'm not exactly sure about the 1250 GS Adventure's comfort but I feel that this Tiger should be more plush and I really like how it swallows bumps. It's more similar to a BMW F 800 GS (the two generations back one) that felt very similar and would take literally anything I would throw at it. It's in fact one of only two motorcycles within the big and midsize adventure motorcycles that I was ever eager to take offroad and play with. All the best!
I think I've said it before, but I'll say it again. This is what I really like about you. You simply tell it like it is. I'm not knocking triumph, even the japanese brands are making some half baked models. The japanese bikes are known for their reliability. Can't wait to see you review the 24 model mt09 and mt10 😊
Well said!
I can't wait for Vtold to test the latest and most amazing 2024 MT09SP on the horizon 😎
Thanks for mentioning that. MT10 is on my backup list for 2024 so it may happen. Cheers!
Hi. I think there was something wrong in the gearbox setup of your bike, as I have this exact bike (Aragon), and never experienced issues with it. I fact, it's quick-shifter is better than my KTM 1290 Adv R.
Any idea why they have this iron shit in the tank so you can't get the gasoline thing longer down into the gasoline tank?
Because then the gasoline would spill out. Its not a random iron think, early models don't have it and you get spills when you get the nozzle too deep. its there because basically men will be men and its in their nature to go in deep. :D
I'm also wondering and the only reason that comes into my mind is to protect the inside of the tank from getting scratched/damaged.
Which one to go for 850 gsa ? Or triumph 900 ?
Wait a moment to see what the new BMW F900GS is like. I sat on one but couldn’t ride it yet. Looks very cool!
@@VToldsMotoShow thanks for the suggestion.
Triumph 💯
Seat on the new gs is junk!
I also tried this unit, & rubs your inter thighs.
Old models have better seats on gs.
I´m really surprised about your bad experience with the transmission and quick shifter. Among my 20 year motorcycling and after owning several bikes (at least 30!), a securely say that my Tiger has one of the best transmissions ever...silky smooth and a much better quick shifter than my previous GS's. Cheers.
Best transmission into it's class, especially quickshifter compared to KTM 890, Husky Norden. Very nice engine with smooth power delivery great being off road. Perhaps you have got a bad unit? Can not really see most of your points during my 6000km on the Tiger RP. Cheers.
So far I'm left with the same impressions after each Tiger 1200 and 900, so 4 different examples. Maybe my left foot somehow isn't compatible with Tiger's brake lever.
At 6 ft tall, I have a feeling your posture on the Tiger is not ideally the way this style of motorcycle is meant to be ridden. That's the only explanation for your reach issues with the handlebar. I recommend you watch Chris Birch's 'Say No To Slow' series for ADV riding. It helped me dramatically and made me realize how terrible my form, positioning and riding style was for dirt oriented adventure bikes. The Tiger 900 RP is set up to be ridden like a dirt bike/supermoto with respect to posture. Balls of your feet on the pegs, arms wide, back leaned forward over the tank to create right angles at your elbows. This posture helps you throw the bars into countersteer while keeping your balance point neutral. There should be slight pressure through your feet at all times, ready to load them so your butt is never absorbing big bumps, but your knees are.
Keeping this style of posture I have had no reach issues whatsoever with the bars on my RP, and we are about the same height.
I have triumph tiger 900 gt pro, in comparison with bmw gt, transmission and quick shifter works so enjoyable. I tried different bmw but nothing works so perfect as triumph quickshifter. And brakes are good, bmw gs 850 and 750 brakes are so bad, I was in couple dangerous situations with bmw
I guess that it disqualifies the BMWs for you then.
@@VToldsMotoShow Yes, I expected for that price for BMW proper brakes, I was scared couple of times how it's brakes. Quicker shifter for BMW especially when you go down with the speed so many times didn't wanted to switch at all, first three gears shifts with a jerk, not smooth at all. My last trip in Portugal was with almost brand new Bmw gs750, 2000km trip, didn't liked, I'm happy to have my Triumph
GEAR LEVER POSITION. That's funny. I'm 183cm, and just test road 2024 Rally Pro (there are no changes for these things between models as far as I know). My issue was, that I asked to investigate if the gear lever can be put higher, because it was leaving markings on my boots much further than the rubber patch of the boot which is meant for the lever. I was basically lifting up the lever with ends of my toes in a weird angle. The lever are simply too low on the demo bike, thus to be able to push it up, one needs to make an angle of ankle forward so much, that it became painful after some time of riding. It simply must be higher, otherwise boot doesn't fit under. If I was riding with shoes, I guess it would be fine, but boots just doesn't fit under.
IT IS ADJUSTABLE. I asked the salesman, he went to check with mechanics and he came back with the answer: "yes, it can be put higher, but it will require quick-shifter calibration". I asked if it would be extra or included in the bike price, and was told "It's not extra, adjustment will be free".
Maybe get some bar risers.
The handling problems are all down to the crap standard tyres, bike is transformed with decent tyre and a week on the suspension to almost super bike handling to the point where your grinding the pegs all the time and still able to do decent greenlaning, never had a problem with heat but I am I the UK, don't tend to use the quickshifter as I an old school biker, with you on the lights and the horn, had the bike from new in 2020 30k on the bike now and still pressing the horn or toggle by mistake.
After riding all the other options in 2020 I chose this and still love it, yes it has faults, but so do all bikes...
Hey, if it works for you and you're able to tune it to ride even better, them things are exactly as they should be and this is great! Thanks for the tips and drawing attention to tires. I'm not entirely convinced that this is it as I see that both Rally and GT come on the same Metzeler tires and the Rally feels visibly different to me in comparison with the GT.
CLUTCH LEVER POSITION. The bite point of clutch is adjustable. For example, I road Honda Transalp in one dealership and the bite was in about the middle of the move. I rode Transalp in another dealership, and the bite was at the end of move. Thus, it was very hard to ride, exactly how you describe it. But it's again adjustable thing.
However, I agree, that the lever closest position on Tiger 900 should be much closer than it is. We both 183cm, there's no reason why our hands should feel like the lever should be even closer thant the closest possible position. But for comparison the new GS 1300 is even worse! It's not even ridable.
Finally an "honest" review, phew! 🙄
...does that mean we should forget about the past reviews? 🤔
Joking - awesome as always 😁😁😁
Thanks and let's keep going maintaining the style ;)
I have a Tiger 850 Sport with a quickshifter and I have had ZERO problems after 20,000km riding. I suspect you just had bad luck because, in my experience, the Triumph quickshifter is excellent.
I found tiger a bit over whelming for city usage in size and engine heat. more over it has terribly worst low end grunt compared to smaller bikes like single cylinder or twins.
QUICK-SHIFTER. I test road 2023 GT Pro, and 2024 both Rally Pro and GT Pro. You also mentioned that gear lever position is too low. Gear lever position is set up together with quick-shifter calibration. It sounds, like something was set up wrong on that bike. There is no better quick-shifter in the market than Tiger 900. It's the smoothest of all both up and down. The gear lever is the lightest as well. It can be used even to go first to second and vice versa, no need to release throttle. And it's still smooth. I tried DesertX, Husqvarna 901, KTM 890, GS 1300, Suzuki 800RE, Honda Transalp. No one is even close to the perfection of Tiger 900 quick-shifter. Something was clearly wrong with your bike, it needs to be sent to dealership for fixing/calibrating.
Exactly 👍 🙌
I agree 💯
Honest mark V
A może by tak zrecenzować motocykle inne niż typu adventure? Ja jestem totalnym nowicjuszem, na wiosnę zdałem prawo jazdy i przymierzam się do zakupu pierwszego dużego motoru. Ale jakoś segment adventure nigdy mnie nie jarał. Za piękne to one nie są(chociaż to subiektywna opinia, ale jednak adventure nigdy nie były postrzegane jako piękności), są na ogół dość ciężkie i bardzo wysokie. No i do najtańszych nie należą. Zdecydowanie bardziej podobają mi się motory typu naked, najlepiej retro jak np Triumph Bonneville. Myślę że jest więcej osób które byłyby zainteresowane recenzjami tego typu motocykli, bo kanał jest przedni i robisz świetną robotę. Może by tak poszerzyć horyzonty?
Jest to pewien pomysł, jednak dla mnie to właśnie segment dużych i średnich adv jest najciekawszy, bo trafia w mój gust i preferencje. Jest trochę ciekawych motocykli spoza segmentu i być może w 2024 pojawią się również na moim kanale.
@@VToldsMotoShow Dla mnie motocykle typu adventure nie mają za dużego sensu, jeżeli ma się nimi jeździć tylko po mieście, ewentualnie dłuższa trasa od święta. Są duże, ciężkie i drogie. A takie testowanie ich krążąc po Warszafce, też trochę słabe, przecież hardkorowi fani takich motocykli kruszą kopie o to, jak jeden jest lepszy od drugiego na bezdrożach, bo ma 1cm więcej skoku zawieszenia...
Pojawi się na kanale Afryka AS 2024?
Wątpię, bo to nadal ta sama konstrukcja bez ogromnych zmian.
@@VToldsMotoShow 19 z przodu to mała zmiana?
About quickshifter....
I think u got unlucky with this particular bike....
I own rally pro since may this year, 8500km, quickshifter never missed a gear, never threw out of a gear....
You might have a valid point.
In all fairness Mr. Vtold; did you consider adjusting the shifter to your foot angle ?
It's the 4th Triumph from the family of Tigers that I'm riding and all of them behave in a very similar pattern when it comes to transmission and how a quickshifter works, so I doubt it's a matter of a particular bike. They're all demo motorcycles maintained likely a top dealership in the country, so it should also be in a very good shape. Expecially considering low mileage.
@@VToldsMotoShowI've never heard or experienced transmission issues with the Tigers. I've owned one for 8 months now and it's transmission is flawless. I'm on two Tiger pages on Facebook and literally nobody complains about their transmission. I'm by no means calling you a liar, but there's definitely something suspect about you having consistent transmission issues. Maybe your dealership isn't as good as you think(?) Not sure what else to say, other than it's bizarre.
Lmao 😂, sounds like something I'd do. (walking up to the wrong bike)
Always remember to deny it if anyone asks ;)
My 24 rally aragon handles like my fz07 while slow and predictable while at speed.... I disagree with the handling comments
Try to ride something else like… a Tiger 900 GT if it’s a matter of disbelief.
But ADV bikes have no business going off-road, right (your words)? Just stick to scooters chief.
but on the other hand, the appearance of this bike forces you to leave the asphalt
@@PawelMie Any ADV bike can be ridden off-road. This guy has no business reviewing ADV bikes.
@@ryanmalone2681 and has no business not doing this
Right. You may take a scooter off the road too and it will take it. If you're interested how different motorcycles take offroading, here's the right place: www.youtube.com/@MattSpears/videos
Sorry sounds like you got a defective unit regarding the transmission.
In every review i have looked at, bad transmission is never on anyone`s list.
I also have had mine one season and the gearbox is way better than ect the KTM 690/790.
The reason other reviewers never stated the obvious; they were sell-outs.
Vtold is not for sale 😌
It's the same in the GT variant of a Tiger 900, so I don't think it's up to a certain unit.
@@maldridge7630not just reviewers, but actual owners on FB pages, including myself. His experience with transmissions on these bikes are basically unheard of outside of this channel. The transmission and quickshifter on mine are absolutely flawless. I've definitely heard of some other minor issues here and there with these bikes (and every other bike), but transmission problems never come up in any discussion I've ever seen.
@@VToldsMotoShowSorry but you have been out voted sir.
Adjust the shifter lever to fit your big foot, like mine, it will help your shifting ability immensely.
I have size 13 & 90% of the bikes I ride I have to adjust the shifter.
Just like your electric chair.
It’s an off road motorcycle and you didn’t ride it off road. You can’t complain about the handling.
I’d say even more - it’s a dirt bike and we don’t ride it on dirt.
This a really bad review. I have this bike for 2 years and here are a lot of things that are not true. He does not know how to set the bike and that for the bike is not so good. Also the clutch is at mine perfect and the transmission is 8 out of 10. And it doesn't want to turn ? Really?
Yes, we already know you have this bike and it’s perfect. All others are bad.
If you cannot even set up break and gear-shift foot leavers to suit your size don't bother calling yourself a biker. You are just a vlogger.
Should I even talk about the suspension setup witch is very particular for this bike and is widely different from street to off-road? @@VToldsMotoShow
To many problems with Triumph.... customer service seem to be worst than KTM'S.... sucks cuz I really liked it...
This may be a local dealer's "style" and a solution is to never visit them and not buy a new bike from them but a used one.
@VToldsMotoShow Nah, it's all over. Quality control is subpar and triumph play arround so it's not cover under warranty.