How to Desolder with a Desoldering Pump/Solder Sucker
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2021
- How to desolder/remove solder using a desoldering pump or solder sucker. Not only shows how to desolder but also how it work and what's inside a desoldering pump. I do it mostly for salvaging electronic parts for circuit bords but it's also useful when fixing errors when soldering.
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Nice to see you back 💖
I've got my desoldering pump from a very long time now, sometimes it happens it is better to use desoldering wick, but most of the time a pump it's the perfect solution 👍👍
It's good to be back.
Maybe the reason I haven't had much luck with desoldering wick is because I just used some random copper mesh. I understand that store-bought wick sometimes has flux in it to help.
@@RimstarOrg the goot does work better than the ebay specials
hello again!!!!! i remember you from youtube "how to" good times!!
Hi again! "How to"s are definitely what I enjoy making! I was doing some desoldering a few weeks ago and the idea of making this one was a no-brainer.
Nice to see you back !!!
Thanks!
I use a Japanese engineer ss-02 solder sucker the best one i have owned to date recommended by a number of youtubers .
Hmmm... Looks like a good one. Thanks for the recommendation.
Oh hey long time no see! Great content as always!
Thanks!
I got a desolder pump a decade ago and love it. Solder wick still has it's place in some cases but mostly I use the pump. Another solid purchase was a flux pen.
I'm like you, for most of the things I do, a desolder pump does the trick. I don't have as much luck with solder wick.
@@RimstarOrg The wick is finicky for sure and I have damaged components when it's reluctant to wick up.
A quick simple easy to follow video. Nicely done.
Welcome back to the tube
Thanks, good to be back. Wish I could do more often.
welcome back!
Thanks!
Yay, you're back!
I answer questions every day but yeah, with videos I seem to be just popping in when I can. Good to be back!
Thanks for the great video! Love that you open up the pump to show the inner workings.
Long time no see! Always love to see your videos!
Thanks! I'm glad you keep enjoying them!
I never seem to be able to use desoldering wick, probably never use a large enough iron. Solder sucker has always been my goto 👍
My experience is pretty much the same.
Yup, I've found the wick not very satisfactory. I've never seen this solder sucker--gotta try it!
Pretty neat gadget! It seems like a good way to clean off hot molten solder.
Yeah, it does work pretty well once you get the hang of it.
i dont even have anything to desolder i found this channel and thought it was cool
I'm glad you like it. Thanks for watching.
Thank you very much for this one, my dude. Hands down the most informative video on the de-soldering process.
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for watching. Be sure to check out the comments too, there are good tips here too.
Very happy to see you are still alive and well, and a new video is just an absolutely lovely bonus!
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
I prefer using compressed air for desoldering. Just melt it and blow it away. Be aware of where you are blowing it towards because it can be messy. But quick and effective if just salvaging parts, or if neater methods aren't working for that one stubborn part.
I guess in that case you're usually removing multiple components? When salvaging, I guess I could do the same. Why not get multiple parts even if you don't need them right away! Thanks for the tip.
@@RimstarOrg When I am removing multiple parts or something with many pins, I use my bigger and hotter iron and the compressed air makes a pretty clean desoldered joint. But the molten solder can solidify on whatever it gets sprayed on to, so I try to blow it off the board, or mask an area with tape to protect the rest of the board and solder joints. The air blowing across the hole will siphon the molten solder out of the joint and 80% of the time the part is loose and free to drop or pull out. Large component leads with big solder joints are another time I prefer this method as a sucker or wick is generally overwhelmed.
Damn, guy's he's alive😅😂
Yup, still alive and kickin! Projects are going slowly but when I was salvaging some transformers a few weeks ago, I realized this would make for a perfect how-to video.
What a gift this video was. Im happy to hear you again :)
Thanks. Be sure to read the comments here too. Plenty of good info.
Good to see you again :)
Glad I had some time to make another video. Thanks for watching it :)
Personally, I've had a hard time getting good results with solder suckers however, the irons with a built-in sucker work great and they're much cheaper than the motorized suckers.
Solder suckers do have their place. I've never worked with the motorized ones and this is the first I've heard of an iron with a built-in sucker! I'll look that one up.
@@RimstarOrg Never said they didn't have a place, just that I've struggled at least with the one I have, but yeah in my experience the de-soldering irons work great because the area doesn't have time to cool and it makes somewhat of a seal like the motorized ones do.
There are a couple different styles of them I have the Velleman VTDESOL3U which is like a normal sucker inside an iron, this is one of the cheaper irons out there, but people are also quite happy with the ECG J-045-DS De-Soldering Iron which has a hand pump.
I just looked up the Velleman VTDESOL3U and the ECG J-045-DS De-Soldering Iron. One nice thing about uploading videos are all the great tips you get back in returns. Thanks!
Thank you for the helpful videos.
Hope you're doing well.
Hey! 👋😲 Hope you have been well! Happy October! 🎃 This is a handy tool that I never got to use but, it's a fantastic way to remove components that have multiple terminals! 🔧 I know you were working in other projects and doing a ton of reasearch on some pretty advanced electronics. I hope it's been a fun and interesting journey for you too! 💡🧠 It's good to see another video and to hear from you again! 🍻
Thanks! Yeah, I agree, for multiple terminals you do need something like this. Back before I had this tool, I'd hack and cut away at the board to free up components, very messy and hard to do.
Great tutorial! Hope to see more works on your pi-controlled robotic head soon.
Thanks! And me too. Progress is slow but getting there. I'm able to display what each eye sees now.
Great instructional video, 600th like
Random question I know but it arose from your early triboelectric videos and a question my son raised that I can't answer to my own satisfaction: why are some materials that are high/low on the triboelectric series such poor electrical/heat conductors? Some of the best positive & negative candidates for electrostatic charge demonstrations are really good insulators! I've searched extensively yet can't find a good explanation. I suspect it has something to do with conductivity needing the 'sea' of electrons while the triboelectric charge transfer is more like a weak ionic bond (and so the two macro-objects involved become like two gigantic ions!??). I ask because you've been one of the best at really getting to the heart of things....byw thanks for all your work here over the years.
Thanks for watching over the years and for the kind words. Unfortunately I don't have an answer for that, despite it's coming up a few times. I guess I've had the same experience as you.
Seems complicated
Consider the "maze vs tunnel" analogy
Electrons need a clear and easy path to follow from one point to another for conduction, the materials lack that.
They can easily transfer from one material to another due to their electron affinity, but this alone isnt enough for conduction
Welcome back!
Thanks!
Get electronic parts by salvaging them! What an intelligent idea! 🤯
I always buy my parts LOL!
It’s good for generic parts like leds and capacitors but for some parts like ICs it’s worth it to just buy them than to search through circuit boards for them
Those thing are brutal careful not to heat the trace too much sometimes you also lift the trace because of the sudden jolt from the pump.
Good tip. Thanks.
Good to have you back 👍
Long time no see!
I'm still here every day answering questions, but making video takes a little longer. I'm glad to see you're still watching!
Thank you
Thanks mate
Miss your videos
Thanks. I miss doing them. I wish I had time like I used to. Hopefully in the next few months. The next one will be my two eyed robot Izzy who now sees objects but I'm working on the math to have it move both eyes to look at them.
Hey man you remember that video you did with the bottles and the sound moving them with a speaker? Is there any chance at a low frequency that the Egyptians used sound to move the rocks?
I don't see any way the same thing would work with rocks. The bottles were lightweight and hollow, and the hollowness allows them to produce a jet of air essentially. Low frequency is also low energy, high frequency has more energy (though in the case of the bottles, high frequency just wouldn't work).
Short and to the point
The original Solder Sucker was called a SOLDAPULLT Model DS 017 with a Teflon tip. Still have a few in the shop. Rarely use De-Soldering Braid. BTW... it's important to open and clean out the sucked solder periodically. Just pushing ion the plunger will not empty the Solder Sucker properly and mat damage the tip.
Cool! Looking at the history of it, I can see why my father use to use it. Further opening it up to clean it, I seem to also recall reading instructions to occasionally clean the seal around the plunger too and possibly relube it.
@@RimstarOrg Yes.. after a few cleaning operations you can sparingly use some petroleum jelly (Vaseline) to lightly lubricate the 'O' ring seal. Oil would destroy the rubber 'O' ring.
i got a hakko fr300 or is it 301 kinda brokenish for $78, fix it total for $87 or so
I think I bought with this one because it's the same one my father used.
@@RimstarOrg ooh.
personally i do so much desoldering of heavy components, this thing doesn't cut it, so I bought a dedicated desoldering station and it's a workhorse. I take entire billets of solder out of its suction tube every few days LOL
Nice!
I've planning on desoldering and replacing an xbox controller thumbstick and was wondering. Would it help to brush a little flux on the solder? I once tried desoldering and managed to lift the track off the circuit board. Ruining it in the process. Too much heat perhaps?
I've heard others say they put a little flux if they're having trouble. Regarding lifting the track off, I've heard of that too. The only thing I can think of is too much heat too.
Nice
Had no idea what it was for in the kit
Me too 😂😂 I have been using for month just cuz it was satisfying lol
What are some of the things u use the microwave parts for?
I've used the piezoelectric speaker for making an earpiece for a crystal radio czcams.com/video/aJkx6hAD-4E/video.html . I've used the transformer for making a ball bearing motor czcams.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/video.html (note, these transformers are dangerous if you use them to put out high voltage ahd high current). But I've also used many individual components (resistors, fuse holder, the smaller transformer, ...) in other projects. I even used the metal from the case to make a case for a power supply czcams.com/video/u2v-L-1Kctk/video.html
Microwaving!
@@robertl1244 Lol!
Can you show how to discharge a cap.In a circuit also is there any books I can purchase on reading diagram schematics
Discharging a cap depends on the size and type of capacitor. Electrolytic capacitors often have the terminals at the same end so I usually put the shaft of a screwdriver across them, being careful to not touch any of the metal of the screwdriver myself since electrolytic capacitors can contain a lot of energy. For smaller capacitors with I sometimes use a piece of insulated wire with the ends stripped. I just touch each end to an end of the capacitor. In either case, hold it shorted for a few seconds to completely drain it.
As for books, if you're a beginner then "Getting Started in Electronics" by Forrest M. Mims is one that a lot of people started out with.
i new it man thanks
This works?
Great
Thx
i like those big blue one, they are WAY better than the little one.
It's one of the oldest but it sure does work well.
is that "Active" the one in ottawa ?!
Yes, though a few years ago they merged with Gervais Electronics and are now on Industrial Road, still in Ottawa.
@@RimstarOrgwawo, time flies by, bought my hakko station from there 4-5 years ago. Went there to visit Ottawa with the kids (I'm from the Montreal region).
Why is the desoldering pump plastic instead of metal?
Because the material sucked cools very quickly! I got one made of aluminium, but is for smaller electronic
I'm surprised the plastic tip doesn't melt much. It must have some heat resistance to it. The tips are replaceable though.
If you don't care about the motherboard, grab the circuitboard with pliers, put some flux on it, blast it with a heat gun and smack it on a table. Everything comes off :D
Oh neat! A few of you have mentioned blasting it with hot air now. The flux is a good tip. Thanks!
@@RimstarOrg solder oxides are very gummy and sticky, the flux will deoxide them back into a soft pudding that can be molten easily.
Wow!
Hmm, I'll stick with my copper wick and Flux.
i get better results with the nozzle held at right angles to the board. it seals nicely and when pushed up really close will usually pull it out clean in one go. if you dont have this tool a squirt of air from a compressor works good but sprays a mess of fine crap that you need to be aware of...an old box or something to catch the mess is advised...if you are doing repair work the board will need to be scrubbed to remove any of the sprayed solder. another trick is to bang the board on the edge of a bench while the solder is hot and the stuff will fall out clean...long sleeves advised for that one.
Thanks for the tips. Another difference is where I suck in the solder the first time, I take away the soldering tip and then bring in the nozzle and I don't get it all. The second time, I keep the soldering tip in place while sucking and I get it all.
@@RimstarOrg yes...and another tip i forgot to add was it helps to add some fresh solder to the spot you are trying to remove...dunno if it cos there is more puddle to pull up or cos of the extra flux added making it less crusty but it really seems to make for a smoother cleaner job
That was my thought too when you said you add fresh solder, that it's the flux that's doing it. A few have commented here about applying flux.
@@RimstarOrg sounds like that is the reason...i never wanted to use the flux because it was more expensive than solder ;)
LOL! Good reason :-).
What are you up to these days, Rimstar? How's COVID hitting ya? How's life ?????????????
Do you by any chance happen to know what is the force with which the pump sucks?
No, I don't. Interesting question though.
hello 👋👀
Hi!
Are you available to help?
If you have a question and I can answer then I am monitoring these comments. Also check the comments section for this video as a lot of others have pointed things out too.
@@RimstarOrg well it's more than one can we talk anyway ? On the phone I'm not the best texter. But I'm working on a couple of small electronics. Today I'm wondering is safe for me to create a dual mini usb cable to charge my two Samsung's
Sorry but I only answer questions in the comments to my videos. And they have to be questions related to the video and not requests to help design something. There just aren't enough hours in the day.
Is this the shop in ottawa ? Lol
Yes it is, or was before they moved in with Gervais on Industrial Avenue.
I tell you in the real world it would be nice if it was so easy.
In most cicruits there is coated laminate of sorts on everything. Plus there maybe solder on both sides of the board.
Aside from that some solders are tough to melt depending on the type used.
You could easily be struggling to remove some solder joints for 10 minutes or more.
Of course then you got them solder chemical melter that keeps the solder soft long enough that you just sucke it all out before it hardens on you and they cost money.
And that is the actual truth.
Well said....I have been there many times.