Syd Barrett | Are Psychedelics Dangerous? Do They Cause Schizophrenia?
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- This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the life and death of Syd Barrett? Barrett was a co-founder of the band Pink Floyd.
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Psychedelics such as psilocybin mushrooms, have demonstrated great potential in supporting individuals dealing with mental health challenges.
Absolutely! It's incredible to see how psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics have the potential to make a positive impact on mental health. They've shown promising results in treating depression and anxiety. It's exciting to think about the possibilities they hold for helping people.
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When Pink Floyd would put out compilation/greatest hits albums, David Gilmour - who basically replaced Barrett in the band - would make sure there was at least 1 Barrett composition on the album so that he would be guaranteed some royalties. Many Pink Floyd songs reference Barrett with 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' being a direct tribute to him. Excellent analysis Dr Grande. I appreciate this one a great deal!
Never knew of him til now
I didn't know that about Gilmour, but the lyrics of some of Barrett's solo material seem to show that he was bitter about not being in the band anymore. I'm thinking specifically of the song "Rats".
@@ambulocetusnatans The lyrics on 'Jugland Blues', Barrett's one composition on the 'Saucerful of Secrets' album, can also be interpreted as containing a bitterness of feeling more and more left out of the band.
They felt incredibly guilty because Syd had been the heart and soul of the band. They never stopped talking about him nor writing and including songs about him on their albums.
@@philipgior3312 He was actually in the band at that point. They had to drag him to even get him to come. That is what happened the day he wrote that piece. He was too unreliable for live shows and wouldn't show up, they had to get someone to turn around and pretend to be him a couple of times. He was clearly jaded by the music industry, but being left out of the band is not what caused his actions and the bitterness, he was left out of the band because of his actions and bitterness. Without Gilmour it is unlikely he would have any solo material either.
I was just watching Jimmy Fallon interview Roger Waters. Jimmy was incredibly insensitive about Syd’s mental decline and laughed about how he “did too many drugs and lost it”. You could see Roger’s pain at this shallow description of his friend’s suffering.
Jimmy Fallon is shallow and pretty much a moron, IMO.
Fallon totally lost me when he asked to run his fingers through tRump’s hair, and then actually did it. His statement was: “It’s really soft.” I assume Fallon is just basically clueless, because your story about him fits right in with my view, imho. Thanks for the validation.
@@jayneneewing2369 I saw the YT video of that creepy incident. I thought WTF is this man doing?
Jimmy Fallon is very far removed from Barrett. The last burst of psychedelic use was 1988-1993 and the results are likely found in the 40-50 age group
Fallon is a huge Jack off
I have been depressed for a long time, but after taking shrooms few months ago, l feel much happier and highly motivated and my ADHD gone , lost a ton of anxiousness and had a few epiphanies about how I should live my life. I decided to buy an ounce for backup, but haven’t yet felt the need to take any more since then.
I have autism, I was diagnosed with it when I was 15. I tried shrooms and it made me function so much better.
Eek I’m autistic too and might wanna try mushrooms. How do I go about it?
Yeah doc.brenttt is your guide. Man is exceptional with anything psychedelics.
On instgrm??
Yes doc.Brenttt
I’ve never seen anyone try to assess Syd publicly, good job Dr. Grande.
this was a nice suprise. syd is someone that usually goes unnoticied but his arts and talents are pretty remarkable.
superfans say he was taking other hard drugs.
It's definitely a familiar story.
Hear hear!
@First name Last name of course he is, he has his PH.D, which means he can be called Dr.
„His mother encouraged him“ - that is so sweet. She couldn’t take his pain away, but he could make music for his time being.
Good mommy
This made me tear up.
I said "awwww" out loud at that part, yeah
Syd is a genius
His solo album 'the madcap laughs' is incredible
@@balloonhead61 I have it on vinyl, it's fantastic. Octopus is my favorite.
What I find interesting is that Syd was never formally diagnosed with mental illness. But he was clearly changed after he started using large amounts of LSD. After watching every single interview I could find with the people that knew him best, the thing that sticks with me the most is a comment that more than one of them made about him. Nearly every single person said that prior to his LSD use Syd "had a sparkle in his eyes that was captivating." They also almost uniformly said that afterward "the light had gone out in his eyes." This is heartbreaking to me. Whatever happened, Syd would never be the same. In the end, I believe this story is about psychological resilience and the effect heavy doses of LSD may have on someone who is not particularly resilient to stress. LSD disorganizes cognitive processes. If the person's neural pathways aren't well established, returning to organization may be difficult, if not impossible. Now I can't say for certain if this is what happened to Syd, but it sure looks like it to me. What I do know he was a beautiful and unique soul, and we are all diminished by his loss.
good comment.
Same thing with Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac, too much acid
I feel I suffer from the same life hasn’t been the same since i took large doses of acid & shrooms. It sucks cause it feels like I won’t ever be the same person I was.
" there's a look in your eye like black holes in the sky". Pink Floyd
@@ramy9822
You will be that same person that you were. It starts with you. You got this!
As a massive Pink Floyd fan and a substance use counselor Syd’s story is so intriguing. Not only did the band not want to fire him, they simply stopped picking him from his home on the way to the studio. In my current role, the chicken and egg question is constant. Which of the coexisting conditions is diving the other. It’s one of the most interesting aspect of trying to help our clients. What Sys should be remembered for above all else is being the spark that gave the world one of the best bands ever. May you forever shine, crazy diamond.
Take your trilafon and call me in the morning; you'll be alright. Just STAY CLEAN. My best friend relapsed on heroin after 22 years of sobriety. He's still using now.
Psychedelics + Underlying Issues = Issues Surface
Yeah. Even people who do not fear monger around LSD mostly agree that it is more harmful than good for schizophrenics, especially in excess.
Psychedelics can also be helpful for facing your issues.
@@williamh5780 Depends on the issues
@@bluemamba5317 depends on the issue for sure.
@@bluemamba5317 and it's probably not good to do hundreds of doses . . Lol.
My brother was bipolar & ADHD; he displayed unusual behavior since he was tiny. He started drinking as a pre-teen. This was before people knew much about mental illness, and he eventually died due to alcohol. I totally believe that people who are troubled will try to self-medicate thru addictions. I hope that we can find more ways to help people with mental illness.
Alcohol is really insidious. Sorry you lost your brother to its talons. The addictive aspect of alcohol sneaks into people. Why is alcohol so ubiquitous in tv shows & movies?
I 100% agree with you there .........
@@kristinabliss Because it's legal.
I'm sorry. Yes, we must do better.
@@kristinabliss Your takeaway from this tragic story is that alcohol is bad?
Syd's lyrics are genius. His illness haunted the band. I've seen numerous interviews with band members and the pain of watching their friend slowly disappear was evident.
Dr. Grande looking sharp with the shirt! That’s a great color on you. Schizophrenia is such a cruel disease. To be trapped in your mind and there’s no way out is cruel.
I agree. Also the blues & turquoises really suit Dr Grande.
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"People on psychedelics may believe they are capable of flight. That misconception is usually clarified upon making contact with the ground" - George Carlin would be so proud of you, Doctor.
Speaking of, it’s time for a little Carlin analysis. I won’t answer all the OCEAN questions, but old George was highly disagreeable!
bullshit
sorry
ian rs agreed. Should not perpetuate the misconception. No way do you think you can fly
@@ianrs4685 I think it’s a metaphor
If they thought they could fly, they should've taken off on the ground first
The band's name is derived from the given names of two blues musicians whose Piedmont blues records Barrett had in his collection, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Most of the British bands of the 60's were heavily influenced by American Black blues music which struggled to gain a wider audience in the United States. Pink Floyd band members were also deeply affected by the decline and loss of Barrett, and much of their creative work after his departure explores the topic of mental illness. An entire album, "Wish You Were Here" was basically dedicated to Barrett and his struggles.
Sorta like Elton john
Two blues musicians from the same label are wide influences?
@@icturner23 citing a love and nod to incorporating the suggestive blues melodramatics and mixing that with a yawning psychedelic sounding story was a wonderful result we are blessed to know as PINK FLOYD. So yes, a wide union. You either share the hypocrisy of what works for no other band than PINK, or you just don’t get it. Put on another
A typical Zepplin record IC Turner and airplay STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN. Be part of the Normal crowd - CARRY ON.
@@icturner23 It's two examples from his record collection, not the ONLY examples, and it's two artists virtually UNKNOWN, even in the states, so YES, I'd say it's indicative of a person whose musical tastes are quite broad. The fact that he even KNEW about them is an indication of a deep exploration of available music at that time. Is that good enough for you? Most people would be able to extrapolate the meaning of my comment and would not have required a detailed explanation.
@@MrDpbazan1955 "why can't u name yourself as John Elton"? ask rowan Mr.Bean
I've seen the descent into drug fueled schizophrenia happen first hand to a charismatic quirky teenager. I could tell something was very wrong for a few months, she was steadily losing contact with reality and I was trying to advise her to refrain from partying with her druggie friends, everyone was treating me like I was some party pooper bad guy. Then bang, she suddenly plunged into full schizoid psychosis. People think pot smoking is "harmless", I used to be a massive pot head, but over the years I've seen it help precipitate mental illness in a number of people
Charasmatic and quirky are acts people tend to put on. Sad people don't like to accept their own misery so they refuse to see it in others.
We need some definitive research on weed and it's affect on mental health and health generally which is in the pipeline (so to speak) because it's finally being decriminalized. Both pot smoking and acid may precipitate schizophrenia simply by the onrush of fear it can produce in some people. It may trigger something that was on it's way eventually anyway, like a bursting dam.
I would say it's probable that Syd would have developed mental issues regardless of drug use, though of course it certainly wouldn't help.
I agree. I used weed for many many years and kept using even tho my anxiety and paranoia was getting worst and worst. I would be more inclined to use because of all the people talking good and praising it on the internet, artist, etc, I would proudly use it. But it's dangerous to mental health and it should be recognized at that.
LSD i recognized the danger almost immediately. During my first uses of the drug I can attest at how impressionable my mind was during the high. You can get traumatized if you get scared or have bad experiences during the high. The feelings, the strong feelings stay with you, later when sober.
I describe it as, it opens up your brain, like it exposes it, it is dangerous.
I wish this dangers are more recognized and accept it so people can see the truth. But instead more I see people calling it as good as a miracle plant that should be called medicine. It can be good bad it also can be bad.
Last year My son did synthetic weed and Acid and read a book of witch craft .Well long story short my son ended up in a Pschyc ward for almost a month. The Diagnosed him schizophrenic but I'm 100% convinced it was something else.
Interesting. Was it just marijuana they were using? Were benzodiazepines or psychedelic used?
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This is a video right out of left field. Pretty awesome that you decided to analyze Syd Barrett thought. Cool video Dr. Grande.
I take him for a fan
Yeah. LSD BAD. Especially in the 60's. 🤣
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Someone suggested Syd Barrett in a comment a few months back. I know I gave that comment a thumbs up and iirc several others did too. I wld like to know more about the good Dr's method for taking requests and then selecting from that list. I wonder if it's a long list. I bet it was once. Now I imagine it probably stays about the same. Get a few requests- knock a few out. Wld still be interesting to know about the process. Dr. Grande? Any insight? ;)
@@vixen.vangogh You should write this same comment as a 'main' comment. Not as a reply. He'll see it, and so will others who agree with you. I think he reads the requests and chooses from there. 🙂
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From my own experiance I've found that weed for me is actually one of the most dangerous drugs. Really pushed me to the point where I was on the edge of psychosis. Giving up weed was the best thing I ever did. I also know people who have lost their minds from acid. Basically be responsible with drugs. They can be great but they can also be f*cking awful!
That's how I'm feeling 2 weeks after I dropped acid and since then I've been having panic attacks when I smoke weed.
Haven't smoked in 3 days but I wish I can go back to being my old self and just chilling and this can just be an experience that I can pass through
@@thatpoeticthug give it time and stay off the weed. I had a similar experience and had panic attacks for a month or so after but has stopped now. Just not ever gonna do trips or smoke weed again. Good luck brother
@@jsyvret472 thank you man. I ended going to see a doctor. And they prescribed me anti psychotics and anxiety medication.
I've taken the anxiety medication and migraines but I don't want to take the psychotic one.
I don't feel like I'm going crazy just feel like my mind is taking too much information and my brains can explode that's why I panic.
But I'll give it time and I'll try to smoke again probably in a month.
@@thatpoeticthug Don`t risk it.
It’s fun till it isnt
psychedelics can be devestating to a person's soul it can be extremely traumatic. I've had the worst experiences of my life on psychedelics and also got anxiety attacks. fortunately it's all gone now thank god. Watch out for your well being
If you dont mind me asking. its been 2 years since you said this, has any of it came back?
@MaxRogala has this happened to you?
You should do one of these on Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys. Analyze how he was treated by his father, stress of the music business, his creative genius, psychological issues, drug use, and of course Eugene Landy. Would also love to hear your insight into Brian's state of mind in recent years. He still seems quite out of it a lot of the times. He attributes his current state of mind to the psychedelics that messed his brain up, but watching interviews with him in the '70's (before Landy), his speech and general awareness was still so much more lucid than it became once he was under Landy's control and even afterwards.
"Love and Mercy" is a beautiful song.
You just did!
@Lauren McCabe I understand your concern for sensitivity. I'm a huge Brian Wilson and Beach Boys fan. As far as I'm concerned, an objective, informed analysis wouldn't portray Brian in a negative light. I believe he has been victimized by domineering figures such as his father and Landy. His story is ultimately triumphant considering how he's been able to rise above the adversity, and his contributions to music and the world are unparalleled. But there's still a lot of confusion as to what/who caused harm to Brian's psyche or distribution of blame between them. I'm no expert, but it seems that the abuse of his father, profound stress, mental health issues, addiction, and the abuse of Landy including "medications" he prescribed for years may have all played a part, but as I am no a mental health expert, my assessment doesn't amount to much. It appears to me that Landy coached him to believe that his brief foray into psychedelics is what damaged his brain most. Based on recent interviews, Brian, at least in part, still believes this to be the case. I'm speculating, but it's conceivable that Landy brainwashed Brian to believe the psychedelics were to blame in order to deflect family, friends, fans or the press from suspecting his "treatment" as being primarily responsible. Brian only took LSD a few times, and as I mentioned in my previous comment, at the peak of his addiction in the '70's to other substances, Brian was still relatively lucid and sharp in his interviews. It wasn't until Landy got a hold of him that the apparent cognitive confusion became evident. That's the aspect that I think Dr. Grande's insight would be invaluable to analyze.
@@bluegirllove777 It's true. Murray Wilson, their father, physically and verbally abused them. It seems Brian received the majority of the abuse at the hands of his father. Murray was a songwriter and musician himself, but not particularly successful and his talent didn't hold a candle to Brian's. He essentially forced his own failed dreams on his sons, but once they were attaining success, the abuse didn't stop, rather he was bitter and resentful. It culminating in them finally firing him as their manager, a move for which Murray retaliated by selling their music catalogue to A&M Records. The impact of that was still felt decades later when Brian finally attained the rights back, causing further turmoil between Mike Love and Brian for writing credits and royalties. It's a sad story because it's possible the joy we've all received from the music of The Beach Boys may have never come to fruition if it weren't for Murray's relentless pushing at the beginning. Each member of the family played an integral role in their success - Murray's initial management, Brian's profound instrumental and harmony arrangements and groundbreaking production, Carl's guitar skills and introducing Chuck Berry and rock to Brian, Dennis' surfer lifestyle, which provided authentic subject matter for their early lyrics and image, and Mike Love's collaboration with Brian as a lyricist - and of course all (including Al Jardine and Bruce Johnston) their unique voices to create those angelic harmonies.
Dr. Grande already did, and it was interesting.
RIP SYD, WE LOVE YOU, SHINE ON!
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I am incredibly excited to watch this video! I was one of the people who requested this (I'm sure there may have been others) because I would love to hear what a professional in this field has to say. I have heard so many non-professional opinions about this from people who do research from the "CZcams University" and the like haha. I am a huge fan of Pink Floyd, and I've loved Syd Barrett and have been intrigued with his life and music for decades. Thank you so much for taking this on, Dr. Grande! I appreciate it so much!
I know a mouse, and he hasn't got a house
I don't know why I call him Gerald he's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse. Shine on Syd.
I''ve got a clan of gingerbread men.
Here a man, there a man, lots of gingerbread men.
Take a couple if you wish. They're on the dish.
@@MidnightIsolde you’re the kind of girl that fits in with my world, I’ll give you everything anything if you want thingsss
I know a room full of musical tunes.
Some rhyme, some ching, most of them are clockwork.
Let's go into the other room and make them work.
I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like.
It's got a basket, a bell that rings
And things to make it look good.
I'd give it to you if I could, but I borrowed it.
What is happening here?
“I’ve got a bike, you can ride it if you like.” Pink Floyd, with and without Barrett, was my favorite band throughout my teenage and early adult years. Still love them, especially Meddle, my all time favorite album of theirs.
I love Pink Floyd and first experienced their music without Syd Barret, it feels easy to connect to and to flow with. I remember listening to Meddle and Atomic heart mother, and for me it didn't cause me to flow with it nor was it easy to connect with. I also listen to a love some odd music, mostly everything from Aphex Twin, but as odd as it is, it still has a flow that guides you, i didn't experience that with Syd's music. Frank Zappa's music is odd and his music has flow for me, it actually makes me laugh a lot.
"Which one's Pink?"
Yes, I love that one too. So many of Syd Barrett's lyrics harken back to childhood and those years of magic, fears, playfulness... and how blissfully unaware children are that it could ever come to an end.
it would have been an entirely different band if he stayed with them.
Have you got it yet?
Regardless of his mental health issues, hats off to Syd. He still was genius although not always able to access it.
Actually my hair is getting thin with age, so my hair's off to syd!
True of many geniuses....
@@erikparent8176 lol
@@sleepystars8482 🤣👍
“Nothing is stupider than a smart person that went wrong.” -Jordan Peterson
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! The questions you brought up about which may come first, the illness or the drug use, and other comments throughout, were very thought provoking!
Excellent analysis. I knew of three people, men in the seventies that had been creative children growing up then in their early 20s took acid and also became schizophrenic. So hard to tell what came first.
“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.”
Love Bill Hicks
Bill Hicks fan?
What I wouldn't give to hear Bill Hicks rant on the world's current state of affairs...
Horse shit.
Coo coo, Koo koo
I have been a fan of Syd Barrett’s music since my teens and a fan of Dr. Grande since The Rewired Soul CZcams scandal of 2019. I will enjoy this video greatly!
Syd Barrett's story has always touched ever since I knew about its details when I was a teenager. From the moment I clicked on this video until it ended, my heart felt so heavy. I believe Syd was a lovely soul and I wish he'd received better mental health care. I hope he'd found some peace in his lifetime, though.
Thank you Dr. Grande for this video. It means a lot to me to see you talking about Syd Barrett's case and I loved the way you handled it. ❤️
Thank you for this. I have long held a fascination with Syd Barrett’s story and have grown increasingly frustrated by the mythology surrounding him.
There is a lyric in the ‘Madcap Laughs’ album that struck me recently and it speaks to the mental health assessment you have reached:
“Inside me I feel
Alone and unreal”
This hints very strongly at Depersonalisation / Derealisation.
"And not in an airplane... like superman". Had to laugh there. Thanks for doing such a sensitive analysis of Syd Barrett, he inspired one of my favourite Pink Floyd songs, even after he stopped playing with them he had an influence on "Wish You Were Here"
"You reached for the secret too soon, and you cried for the moon .." This song was also inspired by, and sort of an homage to Syd, as well
My favourite band of all time. I asked for you to analyse Barrett. Not sure if it was my suggestion that prompted this video. Very happy to see it
From the comments, a few of us seem to have requested this
I’m a Counseling student doing online classes and your videos are so helpful and interesting! Thank you 🙏
Great vid,Dr.G. I was always told by medical professionals that I was putting myself at risk of long term psychological problems if I continued with my drug use (especially the acid) and yet my own experiences led me to believe that rather than harming me LSD seemingly had the potential to FIX problems such as my very low self esteem and opiate addiction (the.latter having it's roots in the former,of course).Now I see that the medical community are looking at LSD as a potential treatment for alcoholism and opiate addiction.
Sylvia Plath, please. She is one of your own.
Salvia divinorum
Maybe the best Dr Grande video of all times. Love the studio and the content! Damn you knock it out the park for some of us 🤓😍
Oh shit!! I’ve been watching you for so long and Syd is by far one of my favorite artists- thank you for making this!
Would be interested to hear Dr Grande’s take on Vincent van Gogh.
Yes! Many differing opinions there. From BPD to celiac disease (untreated and severe celiac can actually cause bad mental health problems, including psychosis). Also the fact that he may have been eating his paint? Lots to analyze there.
@@e_i_e_i_bro He was eating his paints
👂 Ear!
I tried to buy Van Gough a pint.
He said, 'No thanks, I've got one ear!'
Yes!
A tortured soul, trying to self medicate with catastrophic results, he was adding fuel to a towering inferno.
Yeah, unusual story.
12:49 classic Dr Grande
@@Longtack55 yeah why is mentall illness + psychedelics = self medicating. Some are just down to experience stuff
Hi from Cambridge ! We live very near to his final home off Cherry Hinton Road and were very lucky to see the unveiling of a plaque in his honor at the University here in Cambridge where my son is due to study music. We live near Granchester. Thank you for this thoughtful review on Syd Barrett.
Thanks Dr. Grande! I asked for this a while back and you delivered. So cool. Guess it's time to check out your patreon :D
Wasn't expecting
for you to analyze syd barrett, early floyd is some of the best they made
Oh my gosh I totally agree and get in arguments with people about it
Their debut is definitely one of their best and See Emily Play is my favorite song of all time.
@@SoftTangerineDreams my two favorites are echoes and dogs
@@ladymopar2024 Good picks!
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears
Poetry in motion!
Yup. Same old.
Try scripture for profound and relevant meaning!
@@MrDpbazan1955
I love profound scripture and read specific quotes often!
Studies show people who think random quotes are profound are idiots.
Thank you so much for this, I have been waiting for this for so long. Amazing analysis!
We knew a couple whose daughter went to NYC to study as a prima ballerina. She tried LSD there for the first time. Her drug use triggered Bi-Polar disorder and she has not been able to live independently since she came home over ten years ago. From my reading on the subject and experience with families in NAMI, it seems that major mental illness is genetic, but can be triggered by intense stress, marijuana, psychedelics and other narcotics.
Wish Dr. Grande would state such evidence and caution about drug use, including Cannabis by young people especially.
My understanding is that triggering doesn't mean she wouldn't be bipolar otherwise. Just that it may be triggered faster in life.
Bipolar is basically a type of seizure
@@CAMAROZSSNo it’s not. That statement shows you know nothing about it.
You might like to research a significant number of sources offering different perspectives supported by other scientific studies. I disagree equally with the analysis of the content creator.
No gene has been isolated. It’s generally accepted by younger psychiatrists that childhood trauma is heavily involved in psychotic illnesses. It is impossible to distinguish between genes and intergenerational abuse. The older ones seem to remain attached to the “biomedical medical” taught in med school a generation or so ago. The theory has never been proven. The model is mostly scorned these days, particularly by those with lived experience of psychosis.
If you’re relying on book learning and observations of people experiencing psychosis, then you know a limited amount about it. Lived experience trumps those sources of knowledge every time.
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yeah, but can you see the writing on the wall ? That is the question.
Ha! 😂👍🏼 great comment. Shine on, you crazy diamond! 💎
@@kc3718 💥 👊
"Wish you were here..."
Any true Pink Floyd fan knows that that's the song they wrote to him and they play that song every concert I love that song
Love it!
I grew up in the 70's. I remember when my older friend played me the whole Pink Floyd experience one weekend. I was so obsessed.. My parents thought it was causing me to be" too in my head." I'm a high functioning autistic person, yes, I'm in my head. I felt for Syd, and his mate's.
We're just two lost souls, swimming in fish bowl, year after year.....
Great Gig In The Sky are fantastic!
Great video Dr Grande
Been wanting you to do an analysis on Syd for a while, awesome job
Mr. Grande, I am quickly becoming a huge dedicated fan. Love your videos!
I broke my brain using psychedelics. I was in a panic attack for over a year. I could not grasp reality and was in a constant state of panic and horror. By the grace of God it finally subsided after almost two years. I would have panic attacks in my dreams and would wake up, already living that nightmare, with an increased panic and sometimes the world would be spinning and flipping upside down.
Damn how much did you consume? For some reason that feeling of the world flipping upside down and around is very enjoyable to me personally.
Are you ok now? I hope so. Sounds horrifying.
Sounds like a rough trip. This possibility, while rare, can happen in circumstances of mental instability, unresolved trauma, etc. Also it can be bad drugs or too much if you have never done anything like it before and your sense of "reality" is shaken. This is why therapists strongly recommend being with an experienced person to help you if you get into a downward spiral. Would you care to tell us what "psychedelic" you had and how much and the context you were in? It is important to be in a safe environment and should never be mixed with alcohol. I am glad you eventually got unstuck from your bad trip. People can get stuck like you did without any drugs from trauma.
God jockeys have bad trips a lot BC they believe in supernatural things to begin with and start out their trips defensive.
Same...I started developing many symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia after using DMT and mushrooms
I saw someone request this analysis of Syd not too long ago-you obviously pay attention to your subscribers, which is fantastic! I'm so glad I found your channel. ☺ Great video & insight on Syd!
This was great. I've read much about Barrett over the years and often people commenting from the fringes of the lamentable Syd story get it wrong. It was refreshing to hear an accurate retelling of the story, as well as a cogent assessment of his possible condition.
I'm a fan both of Pink Floyd and Barrett's solo work. It's interesting to note that the rest of the band initially thought Syd was in the throws of some rockstar hedonistic ego trip and that his drug use alone was responsible for him becoming a liability to the band, whose star was rising. You can see in more contemporary interviews their remorse at not understanding that there was some underlying mental illness issues with Syd at the time (their immediate single, post Syd, 'Point Me To The Sky', even seems either to be a pale imitation of Syd's style or a mockery of his madness).
It was nice that in later years, the band made sure that Syd was well taken care of in terms of royalties.
It's a heartbreaking story and it was nice to see a video that didn't linger on the sensational and often apocryphal elements of the Syd Barrett story.
Thank you soooooo much for sharing this information in a non-biased form, as always. I’m very interested in this topic.
😞 so sad 💔 I really liked him in my youth. You gave a lovely presentation of his life &what we know. Have a wonderful weekend Dr.G.☀️
Thankyou very much Dr Grande. I know you must receive an enormous number of requests so this one is greatly appreciated. Such an idiosyncratic talent from the 60s. First rock and roll star to sing with a distinct English accent. Influenced artists as diverse as Bowie and the Sex Pistols. Shine on.
Spotless, excellent request, eternal sunshine of the mind or dark side of the moon: Dr Grande is succinct, sage &, hopefully, spreading Syd to receptive & curious.
Amazing amount of comments on Syd. He seems to be more popular now than ever. Been a Syd fan since the beginning. Thanks for what you do.
Being a musician and a huge Pink Floyd fan myself, the sad story of Syd Barrett was the reason I never tried any hallucinogens (LSD, Mescalin, Psilocybin mushrooms). My imaginations are so weird, i fear if i would consume these substances, it would just carry me too far out, and i cant find a way back. Loosing control over my mind and my emotions is not something i can enjoy. There are many reports out there ,where people documented their first LSD-trip on camera and at some point they freak out and having panic attacks/social anxiety. This is something i definetly want to avoid.
I've consumed mariuhana/canabis for some years, but after a funny onset period, it made me a little paranoid, neurotic and completely desinterested in anything. Boring, so I gave it up. Have not missed it yet.
One thing I'm not sure about after years of watching dr Grande's videos is whether he's diagnosing anyone or just speculating?
Still, I thought he gave clear disclaimers. If we (I, for instance) were asked to state what we ineluctably knew, you might get silence ( or an OM...) and there isn’t much entertainment in that.
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@@jamesjacocks6221 ineluctably?
@@jamesjacocks6221 what say you????
@Eternal - he is not diagnosing.
I'm not sure. You really can't tell. Lol.
Awesome video - very interesting! BTW my 17 year old daughter is taking a psych class for the first time this term and her teacher has her students watch your videos. She has admitted to now understanding why I watch your videos so often!
YESSSS! Thank you so much!!! Been waiting on this one.
He really was a talented young man,full of promise and a bright future. What happened to him is absolutely heartbreaking. Thank you for covering him Dr💙
Dr.Grande You are the MAN! This is something that I wanted to know. Sid Barret tragic music career always had me intrigued. Thanks!
I love when you analyze musicians. This review was excellent!
Thank you for another enjoyable video!❤️
From one therapist to another: great analysis. Love your site. Another possibility is that his early oddness is what we've called prodromal symptoms of schizophrenia, that later blossom into full blown schizophrenia. It's too bad we don't have access to his family history in terms of their mental issues. Also, it's hard for me to believe that powerful psychedelics don't help bring on or worsen schizophrenia (your#1 possibility), as they mess with dopamine receptors in the brain, which to my somewhat limited knowledge, is involved with schizophrenia. I guess my point is that pre-existing vulnerabilities (heredity and stress, for example) may predispose to full blown illness if that body system is further tested by drugs.
Thank you so much for this. I would love it if you would discuss Ian Curtis. I listened to his music a lot when suffering from depression. It was weirdly comforting, as if I was not alone in my suffering.
'In the sad town
Cold iron hands clap
The party of clowns outside
Rain falls in gray, far away
Please, please baby lemonade'.
Sid, you maverlous nutter..
Love that one
His solo stuff is just so good it's brought me to tears before.
Rats rats lay down flat
We don't need you we act like that
And if you think you're unloved
Well, we know about that!
a clock sent through a washing machine, if you have taken acid , u know
I’ve tried all types of psychedelics. Never have I or anyone I know who’ve used them ever thought they were capable of flight. They enhance reality primarily, not create an alternate reality where the impossible was suddenly possible.
Exactly. Enhanced reality is a great description. Having said that, it lets you feel the extreme ends of emotions, and I wouldn't doubt if there's been someone who's had a bad trip and attempted suicide.
@@FoldupKibbles26 I’d believe that perspective of suicide over believing that people suddenly having fanciful illusions of flight on any day. Thank you for sharing your perspective.
It’s literally one of the easiest ways I’ve found to toss people out of my life at this point, the classic “My took and they .” Don’t get me wrong, drugs will do what drugs will do, but as for these rather classic and debunked stories... they just help me skip over the ignorant.
@@H33t3Speaks you can disagree with people without tossing them out of your life :)
I too am a life long acid head, a proponent of it. However, I have seen many many many things in this lifetime that had lead me to believe that sometimes for some reason, even an experienced head can lose their shit, have a bad trip and do something unthinkable. I watched a girl I had tripped with for years prior, take off her shoes, pants and jump feet first through second story window of her house. No warning, no words, just her normal good time trippy self then just before, a very disassociated blank look and just about the time I was gonna ask what was up she was flying out the window. So, needles to say, I am not sold on the psychedelics can't cause anything like that to happen. This is just one of so many examples it's not funny. She couldn't explain why she did that and after the hospital and a few weeks off she continued to trip often without similar incident to my knowledge. Also watched two friends from this group slowly go from "lil off"to fill blown schizophrenics over course of those same "heavy use"years. Two. From my small lil bubble of let's say 15 to 20. Take that for what it's worth. Take drugs at your own risk. Whatever you do don't get caught up in the side that says they will all fry your brain instantly and just as importantly, don't get caught up with the "as long as your in the right setting and headspace" it will be an enlightening experience guaranteed. Neither are right imo.
Huge PF fan here, thank you for covering this. Shine on You Crazy Diamond
He lived around the corner from my mum, I used to see him walking to the local post office from time to time. He always looked lost.
Great topic but I must admit it makes me feel old! I don’t think the fact that his sister denied any mental health issues needs to be given much weight - it is common enough still for family to deflect from the ‘stigma’ of schizophrenia.
"People on psychedelics may believe they are capable of flight. That misconception is usually clarified upon making contact with the ground" I was not expecting the joke just like the flying person wasn't expecting to hit the ground
His joke fell flat
He's in error here.
This is just urban legend that LSD makes people think they can fly; in the same way as the rumours about flashbacks.
People with severe personality disorders shouldn't likely indulge but most individuals would be a thousand times more likely to jump or fall to their death on alcohol, than on a hallucinogen.
@@Trowblood No one is talking about "personality disorders". We are talking about mood disorders, thought disorders, and psychotic disorders - pretty much everything BUT personality disorders. Not sure what you are trying to say?
@@TheAtl198 I'm saying people don't jump from windows thinking they can fly just because they are tripping balls.
@@TheAtl198 As an aside; Syd Barret is about the perfect example of someone with personality disorders.
Mood disorders, thought disorders, and psychotic disorders all fall under personality disorders.
Brilliant scholarship and presentation.
Thank you for the work you do!
Great analysis of Syd, psychedelics and schizophrenia. I was hoping you'd do this one! ❤ Thanks for the educational content, and the non judgmental way you speak about drug use. Oh, love that color on you, btw! 🤗
Holden Caulfield would be an interesting subject.
"..and Holdden Caulfield was a friend of miine... woah o0o0oah, and we go drinking from time to time... and I fiiind... It gets harder everytime!"
I though Dr Grande did profile Holden Caulfield...
Hunter Thompson would be, too.
"The Catcher in the Rye" was banned from my Catholic High School, as well as "A Clockwork Orange" by Stanley Kubrick and a "Brave New World", by Aldous Huxley. Boo, Hiss!...I read them at home, anyway, hee, hee!!!! John Keating
Not that whining bastard.
“Turn on, tune in, and drop out” Maybe a speculative analysis on Timothy Leary?
And bingo was his name-oh!
This one. I'd love to hear Dr. Grande's thoughts on him!
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Yes, I enjoy any topic that leads to metaphysics!
And, of course if he mentions Timothy Leary and by association, Ram Dass will have to be included!
Then its show time!
yes
This is probably my favorite episode ever. Thank you for giving us the more current research regarding the emphasis on genetic predisposition as opposed to drug use. Please do more videos about schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder bipolar type. I am always interested when you do analysis on other individuals, particularly creative and literary individuals. I also door your background changing all the time it’s fun to look at them while you talk.
Excellent assessment of the available acumen! I believe we should add an additional point
that tends to suggest research may show a decent probability that psychedelics may be helpful in many psychological conditions. It appears as though the objective demonstration that you have successfully argued is the most respectful approach to the band-mates around him, which allowed for the courage for them to continue on without his presence as a member, and seems to be one their most successful influences in their cannon of music.
I was almost scared to watch this video because Pink Floyd is one of my favorite bands and I was afraid what you might say Dr Grande. But you handled the analysis faultlessly. Thank you for this one!
P.S. I absolutely love that color shirt on you!💙
The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me...
Shine on you crazy diamond?
@@RoMaRobMarq Brain Damage
sounds like a lobotomy? raise the blade and make a change? That procedure was popular for a while. . . .
Great analysis Dr. Grande 👍 This is of particular interest to me because in the history of tragic rock stars, Syd Barrett has to be one of the most saddest and enigmatic, with a lot of legendary stories and speculation over his mental state. Syd was never diagnosed with schizophrenia or any other mental health condition, so we and Dr. Grande can only speculate with not too much confidence and certainty over this. This on top of his excessive drug use, and all the conflicting stories from different sources, is the reason why he remains so enigmatic.
Syd Barrett wouldn’t be so interesting though, if he hadn’t been such a unique talent and original songwriter, which makes his demise all the more regretful, leaving us all wondering what might have been. I love the music of both Syd Barrett and Pink Floyd and have been to several Roger Waters concerts. “Shine on you Crazy Diamond” remains a great emotional tribute song from his former band mates. Interesting how the first, third and fifth initials, spells out his name “Syd”
Thank you Dr. I asked you to do this. I'm so grateful.
Fabulous Dr Grande. Thanks for this. You payed homage very well to an artist I have liked for over 5 decades. And was saddened when he passed. David Gilmore, his friend, teacher and replacement to the Pink Floyd was distressed to have him leave the band. I think that Mr Gilmore to this day is still regrettable for the demise of Syd Barrett from the many songs he wrote afterwards. Great job on your viewpoints!
Love your content a lot!
Hope you're doing well.
Thanks Dr. Grande! Amazing and interesting analysis!!
I'm having a flashback!! I used to listen to Pink Floyd in the "day"!! Even though I used to be very paranoid about the music. I was the type of girl that didn't want to attract attention and didn't want to get into trouble. If Pink Floyd was playing, I was totally aware of the type of music it represented . You couldn't peel me away...lol
As a young woman I experimented with LSD, I had hallucinations and was so happy to "come down"!! I was still living at my parents and laid on my bed the entire night before falling asleep at daylight, watching the wallpaper move all night! I didn't go back after that experience.
As for psychedelics, I can only imagine, if you abuse or use too often, it would most likely have a problematic effect!! The possibilities are endless.
TFS Dr. Grande! :)
Great job! Usually filled with same old reasons and talking points regarding Barrett's decline,but not here. The death of his father was a huge early factor. I remember reading somewhere that R.D. Lang actually tried to observe Syd?
Syd Barrett is one of the greatest, most influential, and underrated musicians ever. Thank you for this video
Agreed, I particularly enjoy The Madcap Laughs. Brilliant album, highly underrated.
I don't think he has ever been underrated. He was cancelled when that term was not known. However the band honored him and most people acknowledge him as a result to this day.
Always great when you do musician episodes!
Dr. Grande I LOVE Syd Barrett so much, I'm so happy you did this. Love him. I know later in life he rejected being called Syd or talking about Pink Floyd, telling people to forget that business.
I thought it was sid vicous at first
Thank you for this Dr, Grande. This was a very interesting and useful video. It explains a lot.
Alan Wilson from Canned Heat would be a great person to do a video on! Thanks for making a video on Syd Barrett, by the way! He's my favorite musician ♥️
Thank you very much for addressing this topic, the case of Syd had always puzzled and fascinated me.
Lophophora Williamsii - nice picture and username!
@@vickielawson3114 thank you :) I'm growing a couple of these in memory of Hunter S. Thompson
@@DonPeyote420 Nice!
Overhead the albatross
Hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves
In labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant time
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine
He loved the rhyme of the ancient mariner
Echoes is great especially on LSD....
@@clasicks6670 LSD not always required 😂 I loved that song from around the age of 8 x
@@stlvn6363 it is not required but it does enhance the Echoes of a distant time....
"clarified on making contact with the ground". Thanks Dr Grande, nice to see your smile. You seem to be about the most level-headed person on the internet.
As ever a balanced and measured approach and delivery. Thank you for your information on LSD. And for the info on schizophrenia with regards to Sid
'That misconception is usually clarified on contact with the ground'
Thank you for a balanced treatment of the topic. I had a middle-school and high-school friend who developed severe schizophrenia, and I saw how terrible it was for him. He was a heavy drug user too, but I believe his illness came first.
Nah. That’s just not real. So you’re saying that he’s got the illness, and the first thing he does, is drugs? Nah. Drugs first, then ilness
@@arkham5940makes perfect sense that he would self
medicate
bro your voice is very relaxing haha love your videos. happy easter
Dr. Grande, I really enjoy & respect your content. Great video here, but I would have liked to see some mention of the therapeutic value of psychedelic drugs like LSD or psilocybin. When prepared for properly, a psychedelic experience can be overwhelmingly positive & even life changing. I think its important that we fully understand & explain why we tell people that something is unsafe, if we expect them to heed that warning.