Unfortunate Implications - Beauty and the Beast
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- Also the sorceress never specified that the female servants didn't count and you'd think they'd all be really keen on breaking the curse, but yeah I guess I'd rather be a beast forever than marry a lowly servant too.
Pick your movie that should be remade with real humans:
Treasure Planet - / jennynicholson
Brother Bear - / jennyenicholson
Zootopia and they're in fursuits - / spider_jewel
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad - / jennynicholsonvids
Batman V Superman - / spiderjewel - Krátké a kreslené filmy
love your stuff. thanks for keeping entertaining content on CZcams!
James Lewis If you like it that much, it's yours!
Hull Kevin wins the internets
hahahaha! :)
Francisco Florimon And by "implications" you mean "penises" right?
Hahaha! That made me laugh more than it should.
My character design teacher was an animator on beauty and the beast. He loved animating Belle, but was usually relegated to animating Chip, who got more scenes in the movie bc focus groups enjoyed him so much. My teacher would take out his frustration by doing little animations of Chip falling to the ground and smashing into little pieces lol
Do you mean James Baxtor? Chip was an annoying character so I kind of understand your teacher.
Gotta exact get revenge some how. This is really funny though 🤣
My guess is David Pruiksma?
james baxter??????
Id like to animate belle too, if you know what i mean.
Y'know what annoyed me? The Beast got off super easy when he got cursed by the witch, in comparison to the servants who had literally nothing to do with whatever got them cursed in the first place. Like, sure, he's a beast but at least he has fingers. He can wear clothes and, y'know, use doors and that. Try explaining to the guy who got turned into a butter knife why he shouldn't spend the rest of his miserable, anthropomorphic existence trying to stab The Beast.
duaneap101 😂
Laughed out loud!
This is hilarious.
I think the implication is that the servants (who were responsible for Beast's upbringing) didn't do anything to... dissuade or correct his behavior. So like, theyre guilty by association and neglectful upbringing? medieval logic is weird sometimes.
In the original story, the "Beast" was a child. He was a young prince, maybe eleven or so. Him being turned into a monster was meant to teach a lesson, but the witch was cruel from the beginning. A child didn't let her into his home while his parents were away, thats like...normal??? Its a weird thing to get lost in time but the beast cannot read or act right bc he never learned how as a human child. and the servants were loyal to the boy who was lonely with away parents, for that they were punished.
Can you imagine if Jenny played Belle? She'd be like "Dude your lamps and appliances are enslaved humans ... I'm not going to dance around with you in a strapless ball gown."
I could never dance around in a strapless ballgown because the beast and all the castle's male appliances would send me a million creepy comments about my shoulders
"Sitting still and talking doesn't make your dress move like that. She was doing it on purpose." -creepy candlestick watching from the shadows of the ballroom
Jenny my dude, my heart goes out to you :( This is some cReePy shIT.
jRoldo Mustache or maybe just
...control yourself and dont say creepy stuff.
@@JennyNicholson :...yeah, that immediately made me look at your shoulders.
...there are people who...? Tsk.
That thing with the black eyes in the background, it´s a beautiful thing
Baby Snuffelupagus?
its from alien encounter at WDW
If you like it that much, it’s yours!
@@anagjini7111 amagod you commented the same thing with the tiara
It looks creepy cute
Hey Jenny I heard you like Star Wars a lot. Which, I mean... if you like it that much, it's yours!
Daniel Crookston this is the funniest comment ive ever seen one of her videos
And from now on she erased the last few movies and made actually good stories. The end.
@@verynormalusername Well, if you like this comment that much, it's yours!
♡Skele♡ Except Jenny likes TLJ and wouldn’t get rid of it.
Now Rise of Skywalker, on the other hand...
@@verynormalusername l¹1
the phrase"..lying face down in a duck pond somewhere," makes me laugh SO hard. cuz I can so see Maurice doing that.
Maurice definitely needs a dose of, "Get your shit together, man!" As an adult human being now, I would probably lose all my patience with the man and put him in a care centre.
Me too the whole mirror thing had me cracking up
Turns out Belle was into furries, and once he became human the marriage did not work out.
I didn't watch the whole video before posting this.
Ghost81 no yea that’s exactly what happens
Oh my god. You just justified why he doesn't ever change back to normal in Kingdom Hearts.
This is old but in the French Jean Cocteau version (the one Disney like ripped off for the animated one) like when he becomes a human in the end she literally is like wtf where’s the beast that i fell in love with.
Actually he does in the end credits of Kingdom Hearts II lol
we appreciate your honesty
The tiara was an especially nice touch.
theoldar if you like it that much, it’s yours!
Wrong film but I read that comment in the voice of Lady Tremaine from Cinderella and was instantly suspicious of your intentions.
the beast in the new film looks like they photoshopped an actor's face into a golden retriever.
Carlos noooooo
That was ABSOLUTELY their goal and you know it but don't want to face that truth
Except they make it so the face can't act as well as the cartoon one.
the yellow dress looks just as bad, i have no idea why they keep hiring the costumer for historic (in the case of BatB, that’s used lightly) costumes- she failed in the 2005 Pride and Prejudice, she mag failed in this, and she extra mega failed in the 2019 Little Women (though i still like the movies). sorry about my rant lol i get really heated about historic costumes
"Like, these are all things you take on when you decide to keep a captive"
That is so true.
It's a much bigger commitment than people realize. Everybody thinks: "Oh I'll just visit her in the basement when I feel like it", but she has to be fed, like, every day. And you have to interact with her all the time if you want her to be well-socialized.
Juggalo1- It really is like having a dog.
Big Fritzl energy
@@juggalo184 Never imagined I would have to coax it to put the lotion on its skin. Damn, it's like pulling teeth.
"A cartoon butcher knife with a face" has me so intrigued. I'm just picturing a talking knife who enjoys what it does a little too much and even laughs maniacally when it's asked to bring fresh meat for the beast. Where's this story, Disney?
That’s just chef Louis from the little mermaid
How would the animation work?
I can't picture it.
Kayla Houvenagle imagine the teapot or the clock. Now imagine that it's a knife instead. There you go.
@@kaylahouvenagle3866 Think of the Jewish axe from Enchanted Christmas
The knife is in a 3 way relationship with a whetstone and a honing steel.
I always wondered what happened to the villagers after the movie. Their leader is dead, most of the men have been wounded by closets and knives, everyone must have been terrified. Not to mention all of a sudden there's a prince living right next door who is probably not well disposed toward them. What happened next? Careful diplomatic rapprochement? All involved pretend nothing happened? Maybe Lefou climbs from Gaston's shadow and assumes a leadership role. That's worth a miniseries at least.
Well, eventually they rise up and murder the lot of them. France had a thing about royals.
@@Matrim42 I would 100% watch that sequel
@@Matrim42 yup
@@ellw7830 I would watch it, too.
maybe thats what the lefou disney+ show was gonna be about before it was canned
kids think think they're entitled to soap dispensers now? unbelievable. smh
Woody Jang millenials
Why back in my day, we just didn't crap.
Kids today just don't have our thick skins. And intestinal problems. But mostly thick skins.
Also in the opening song Belle longs for "adventure in the great wide somewhere" but ends up just settling for a gilded cage.
Jake Phoenix she settles for being rich nobility.
If there's one thing rich people definitely never do, it's travel
She faced off with a Beast, stayed in a castle with living furniture, was attacked by wolves, etc. How is that not an adventure?
They just didn't specify that the 'great wide somewhere' was a euphemism, wink wink.
Ugh, I hate this criticism.
She wanted something different from a provincial life living among people who didn’t understand her, with no prospects. A literal fairy tale marriage is just as much something she would have wanted as anything else.
Hell, her favorite book is about princes and marriage and true love and shit. She’s not settling.
Damn, I forgot how much I loved her shitting on movies I like
Are you Sean Connery and you're trying to say "sitting on movies I like" but it keeps coming out wrong?
**cough** ᵘᶰᶠᵘᶫᶠᶦᶫᶫᵉᵈ ˢᵉˣᵘᵃᶫ ᶠᵃᶰᵗᵃˢʸ
Did Chip get chipped after he was turned into a cup? Or is the chip supposed to represent some missing part of his intellect? Or should he have a massive head wound when he gets turned back into a boy?
Osiris Malkovich I believe he was supposed to have a bum leg in human form but I could be wrong
A chipped tooth perhaps
In the animated version he is drawn with a gap between his front teeth, I believe, I haven't actually watched it in years.
I thought it was meant to indicate a missing front tooth in a little kid
Maybe it representes his lisp
I always thought a good ending would have been instead of the Beast killing Gaston, having his curse being transferred to Gaston. Also, it's weird we never really learn the Beast's real name.
His names Adam. Not that they ever mention it.😕
Shari Penn I'm in the camp that doesn't agree with his name being Adam.
Adam is not a French name.
@@PS-dm1dq I just pretend it's Francis. I think the timeline seems close.
That is what happens in the 1946 Jean Cocteau version, in fact it's unclear if it was belle's love that frees the beast from the curse or the gaston character's misfortune.
I love how Jenny doesn't have an out of control number of subscribers, but every video she makes is high on the trending list
CZcams has a strange way of deciding what qualifies as "trending". I guess it ha something to do with Jenny's subject matter being trendy.
It's because she's doing oldschool youtube, and nothing political. Thats the CZcams I miss
"broadcast yourself"
XyloLiontari politics can be entertaining, just not the Casey Neistat "who I'm voting for" type videos
I love political videos. CZcams executives can suck a chode.
XyloLiontari And if you love politics? I guess the motto is "broadcast yourself, unless you have political views we don't like, then you can sit down and shut up, no this isn't censorship why do you ask"
"Mrs Potts has so many kids, but only loves Chip." is a conundrum that I'm ashamed to have never noticed.
Maybe all castle children are turned into cups, and Mrs. Potts is like a governess, that happens to have one son, or grandson of her own.
I always point out the servants in beauty in the beast too. Like how the movie focuses so much on the plight of the beast. But, like, what about the guy that wakes up one day and he's like a fuckin stove or something. And then what do they do with the stove they had? Does the guy throw it out like "I'm the stove now" or what? And how come lumiere was attracted to the feather duster? like I know they drew her all sexy and when she was a human she was definitely hot, but man it's feather duster how does that do anything for you sexually. And lastly what did they even do to deserve any of this? I would way rather be a beast than a spoon or a dish or something and all these servants seem like they're the fucking nicest people. Can you imagine if you were turned into a spaghetti strainer and the only way for you to turn back was to help your last employer get a girlfriend? it's bullshit, it's total bullshit
PPbest “I’m the stove now” I’m dead
Headcanon: The curse is actually applied to the job, not the person, so any of them could become human again by just quitting. They don't because, as it turns out, being a talking candelabra is still better then being an unemployed rural peasant in 18th-century France.
I like to think that turning into those objects also caused them to lose some sense of awareness. It would explain things like the metallic armor sets just standing where they were.
It's oversimplified... because it's a less than 90 minute movie. But I assume the servants get turned into the furniture that already exists. I know we see them transform back into people and don't see the furniture get replaced. But if you saw an animated representation of Lumiere's consciousness leaving a candlestick and becoming a person that would just create more questions about souls and how a corporeal body was conjured from nothing.
@@billyweed835 Even if they couldn't have quit, they, as objects, would mostly have been immune to aging.
"Girl I get that you dont like Gaston but at least you can turn your back on him for a second amd you're not gonna find him choking on something he found on the ground" 😂
What I never understood is if the moral of the story is to look past what someone looks like because they can be beautiful on the inside, then why does the story end with the beast turning into some gorgeous prince dude? It’s like the movie is saying, “Don’t be shallow, and you will be rewarded with a hot rich person.”
Anyways, love the videos!
I think the story was about a guy who learned to be forgiven. I don't think the message of the story was to look inside I think the message was bad people can be redeemed
@qprtx: This was basically Marlene Dietrich's beef with the original Jean Cocteau live-action film -- She thought the Beast should remain the beast Belle falls in love with, not turn into some pretty boy!
Pretty sure the folks at Dreamworks probably thought the same thing when they made the first Shrek movie...
If you’re not a fan of that, maybe try shrek !
(Lol your comment is 3 years old… sorry :’)
You're actually the most naturally funniest person on youtube. Your deadpan deliveries make me wheeze.
The material difference between the Beast and Gaston is that the Beast knows he's got a problem and Gaston doesn't. Sure, at the beginning the Beast is all emo and petulant, but he knows that being an asshole got him cursed and we see him trying (and failing pathetically, but still) to be better. Gaston, by contrast, is shallow and doesn't respect people and also thinks that he's already positively perfect in every way. They both start out aggressive and disrespectful, but because Beast recognizes those as bad things he is able to improve himself, while Gaston considers them good things and consequently turns into a monster. This is not an insignificant distinction.
Haven't seen the new movie yet, but the Broadway version mitigated a lot of these issues. 1. Yep, when the time limit runs out they all are stuck the way they are. This sucks for the Beast cuz, y'know, sometimes you need people in your life who aren't in love with you to have some basic acceptance of you, and Belle because based on her opinions of Gaston she's not a fan of excessive body hair, but is mainly tragic for the household. There's a really tear-jerking exchange where Chip's wondering if he'll ever get to be a boy again.
About not telling her, I think I remember that someone can't break the spell if they know about it, but I'm not positive.
Yeah, I don't know if I'd call the library a gift per se, but that doesn't mean it's not kind. There's very little that's more meaningful to Belle than books. I imagine that thought process less as "I will magnanimously allow her to use the library on premises" than "WHAT?! She hasn't seen the library yet?! Oh my god I have to show her the library she'll be so happy!"
Honestly, the biggest WTF I get from the the original movie and the Broadway version is: the Enchantress is a horrible person. "This spoiled orphan teenager is acting like a petulant entitled teenager, I will put him and the countless innocent people who work on this estate under a curse until and unless he loves and is loved by some third party who doesn't know anything about any of this. This is clearly the most effective and least morally reprehensible way to teach a teenage boy to be less of a dick."
I mean, realising you're a terrible person because someone literally told you so then turned you into a beast to reflect your flaws, and then changing your ways because the curse gives you a direct, self-serving reason to do so is a pretty weak redemption arc and doesn't really say much about the character's inherent goodness. It just means the character was less willing to stay ugly than to figure out why they're a dick.
If Gaston had been cursed the same way, there's no reason to presume he wouldn't also have realised "damn, there's really something about me that's so horrible someone would turn me into an unfrickable monster as a big FU to my vanity and pride. maybe i should work on that so someone might actually like me enough without my lantern jaw to break this curse"
@@katharineeavan9705 tbh in my experience literally telling someone they're being a terrible person almost never leads to them stopping to reflect and become better, like how Gaston reacts in the 3rd act after Belle calls him out. Having a few years to stop and think probably also helped, but that brings up another point in the beast's favor: he was a teenager at the time, whereas Gaston seems to be in his mid-20s and has much less excuse.
I actually kind of liked the enchantress being a horrible person, though. She's kind of like a fairy that way (in fact, I thought she was a fairy) -- she's not fair or just, she's just a force of nature.
Well, yeah. The Enchantress is a terrible, spiteful, creature, because she’s of the fae. Any slight, no matter how petty, is worthy of exquisite punishment.
That’s what the curse on the prince and the servants are: punishment. Not a lesson, not a puzzle, a cruel joke played on a thirteen year old boy and all his innocent serfs.
@Nonaya Bidness ... did we watch different movies? Gaston very obviously DOES NOT accept Belle's rejection: she tries to get rid of him, he refuses, she tricks him to get him out of her house, he angrily insists that he's still going to "have her," he concocts a scheme to blackmail her by threatening to imprison her father if she doesn't marry him, and when she still says no he imprisons her.
He starts out refusing to take no for an answer, and only gets worse over time.
Gaston wouldn't be choking on something he found on the ground; he's especially good at expectorating
Speaking about the magic mirror, wouldn't it have been cool if the Magic Mirror from Snow White had showed up in a bunch of Disney movies and then turned out to be a mega-villain in one of the later movies? Sort of like a Disney cinematic universe where the mirror had been manipulating all of the other villains/characters in the previous movies.
Disney: Infinity War
Oh my gosh, if not Disney themselves, *WHY DIDN'T KINGDOM HEARTS DO THAT?! =^o*
@@ChaosRayZero That reminds me of the Sisters Grimm series... I was obsessed with those books when I was a kid!
@@emilylike-the-soup2502 I've never heard of those books (maybe I'll look them up though =^).
Looking back at this old comment, I'm also wondering why the TV series *Once Upon a Time* didn't do something like that.
You're writing Once Upon a Time fanfiction and I order you to stop.
"And..the silverware..is also corpses."
Actually, I don't agree with the Gaston Redemption/ Belle Fixing Beast part.
I don't think it's Belle who changes the Beast, it's the Beast who changes the Beast. He's just motivated by her. I also feel like Gaston is so sure of his own worth that he'd brush her remarks off. Beast hides some insecurity and finally accepts that he has flaws he should work on. Gaston believes himself to be flawless.
Yeah, Belle’s not his damn life coach. The Beast was genuinely making an effort, and Belle brought out the best in him.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick she still literally got kidnapped but okay.
even if gaston is a bitch its not like he did that.
I love the idea of gifting people things they already own or are using hahahaha
“Maybe he just likes a project.
“Like Belle.”
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I LOVE YOU JENNY
I've got to disagree with you about Gaston not being offered redemption. During his fight with the Beast, Gaston is overpowered. Beast holds him off the edge of a parapet with the threat of dropping him. Gaston pleads for his life, and the Beast sees this and pulls him back onto solid footing, and tells him to leave.
Right there, Gaston has lost and could have left. He chose to climb up the roof to stab the Beast in the back. It was only when he decided to administer a second stab that he lost his hold and fell. He is entirely responsible for his own demise.
Even if he thought he was way past redemption, there was probably still a small part of him that had hope the curse would go away. Like if someone is depressed, they feel terrible and unhappy and don't want to do anything but a part of them still hopes the depression goes away.
I love the end of the bit about giving her a library where Jenny insinuates she's kept a captive before. She's like, step up your game Beast, when you take a captive you gotta do the stuff.
But seriously, after the curse was broken, they had to by all new home furnishings.
To be fair, telling Belle about the curse would put a lot of presseure on her. Love is hard when it's compelled.
EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS RIGHT
The beast isn't as handsome or likable as Chewbacca.
I'd like to see the story adapted to Star Wars. Have a young Princess Liea taken by the "beast" played by Chewbacca. Han Solo plays the part of Gaston and all the droids play the furniture.
Now I'd pay to see that.
Alan Hembra Heeeeeey 😂
Hah hah, I meant taken to the castle and forced to live there.
What role for Jimmy Scrambles?
@@chaos.corner god
I see I arrived at the point where all the comments are complaining about all the comments, but none of those comments are anywhere near the top.
What about the fact that chip has part of his head missing?
As a boy it's a tooth that's missing I think.
I’m pretty sure the fact that the stab wound the Beast suffered wasn’t in his human body kinda confirms that whatever happened to the enchanted body doesn’t affect the human one. Like, if Lumiere lost a candle, he’d still have a hand when he transformed back.
For the library thing : i think they meant he gave her all the BOOKS in the library, and now its hers. At least, thats how i took it...
I think with Gaston, he hunted for sport, was basically worshiped because he was the "epitome" of manliness, and he was manipulative. Gaston got what he wanted and was set in his way. The Beast learned and developed, he showed a softer side, and when it came down to it was willing to let Belle go while Gaston probably just wanted Belle because she'd be the only girl to turn him down. Also I assumed when he 'gave' her the library it included all the books and arrangements; whatever she wanted to do with it was hers.
So, The Beast is like Kristoff(a bit of a fixer-upper), Belle looks beyond the topical(doesnt judge a book by its cover), and Gaston just wants a new objective to overcome(challenge accepted!). Also there was a dog that got turned into a fancy ottoman. Poor pupper.
The Beast is very "manly", after all, he's 3 times bigger than Belle but uses his strength to save her from wolves, and his resources to provide her comfort and care. He has masculinity guided by wisdom. Gaston, on the other hand, is masculine but guided by vanity, that's why he uses his strength to attack Beast and his resources (which for him are connections in town) to force Belle to marry him. This is why I think it's valid that Beast and Gaston are so similar and their actions are so much alike, but it's evident Beast is a hero and Gaston is a villain.
I forgot to mention entitlement differences(inherent value of Beast vs earned of Gaston) and the outcome of their situations but you pointed out vanity; that's the perfect word to describe everything of Gaston. I think its an accurate description and predictor of his actions. IDK if Beast has wisdom yet, although his past experience affected him, he still has faults but definitely has a willingness to learn and be better.
I think the descriptions of Gaston's hunting was metaphorical for the way he goes after women. He views them as a prize, and values his ability to catch them whenever he wants. He even says the other girls are like rabbits, and Belle is more of a challenge. No one else seems to think Belle is the prettiest but he wants her because she's a challenge, she's the only one that doesn't throw herself at him. If he can get Belle, he proves to himself that he's a great "hunter".
Jenny pointed out mostly how beast and Gaston are similar, but this sets up their one main difference. Gaston has a need to make Belle his, beast is reluctant at first and actually gets to know Belle and share her interests before starting a relationship.
Although now that I think about it, that seems backwards when compared to the characters actions. Beast is supposed to be the genuine and caring one, but he meets her by locking her up in his castle forever. Gaston just asks her and gets turned down.
Also it's kind of bullshit that this movie gets to use the "Beauty is on the inside" thing even though the beast turns back into a beautiful prince at the end and the story is driven by Gaston and beast falling in love with Belle, who is beautiful the whole time. Im pretty sure Shrek handled that a lot better. Shit, I think I like Shreks story better. Oh god help
Owe Brasseaux - In the opening song, the towns people talk about how she's so gorgeous....
Yeah but the difference is that Beast is uhhh oh yeah, he's fucking cursed. Had he not been, he'd probably be exactly like Gaston.
I think the cursed mirror makes total sense (I've actually never heard that theory before). Didn't the sorceress give it to the Beast so he could watch the outside world? I bet she cursed it so he would see the worst thing possible. When he was alone, it was that people were happy without him. When he fell in love with Belle, it was that she was in pain.
I think the library thing was more of a "By the way, there's a huge library in this castle and you can like... read and stuff" and she's like "Oh, thanks for telling me!"
But they had to play it off as this grand kind gesture xD
Can I ask who that little 6 legged guy to the right is? Super cute with an elephant like snozzle xD
This is my favorite comment, his name is Skippy and he's from an extinct disney world ride called Alien Encounter. There are a lot of him on ebay!
Jenny Nicholson I loved that ride! Especially the snarky comments that are made to sound like they were coming from the audience.
For the first one... Not telling Belle is probably the one thing I whole heartedly agree with (as in they shouldn't tell her). Could you imagine how incredibly awkward it would become to try to fall in love with someone when you are now LITERALLY obligated to? The Beast didn't even fall in love on purpose.
I don't really think the beast and Gaston are the same at all. I mean they did similar things like hold her dad captive, but for different reasons. Also the beast didn't really shove himself at Belle and be overly arrogant and misogynistic. The beast also got over himself for her and when he had a chance to actually be loved by her he let her leave and accepted that he may not see her again and be free from the curse but her being happy was more important than that. Gaston really isn't the same as the beast IMO or at least they did things for much different reasons. Belle didn't try to "change" Gaston or help him because I mean, its quite obvious he was too full of himself to ever question why he'd need to change. The enchantress was really what the beast needed to introduce the thought that it doesn't matter that you're beautiful and you need something other than that for yourself. I'm kinda convinced Gaston would've started to be able to take help if he got that kind of inspiration that his and others beauty are not as important as he thinks. This is my favorite disney movie don't try to tell me the beast is the same as Gaston lmao I don't wanna hear thatttt
I know better than to read the comments. I'm so disappointed with myself right now.
I've been watching your pop culture breakdowns for the last hour and you're super sharp and so funny! I'm living for it
Gaston, who is a full grown man tries to commit murder because the girl he thinks is hot won't bone him, the Beast when he was supposedly 11, just turned away a random old woman because of her appearance.
There's literally a point in the film at which Gaston is offered a chance at redemption, by the Beast himself. But instead of leaving and trying to move on with his life, he literally stabs the Beast in the back. Also Gaston literally exploited an entire village's fear because he wanted to murder someone to spite the girl who won't bone him.
Also Gaston basically sexually harasses Belle throughout the film. So yeah, I'm gonna say Gaston is definitely worse than the Beast, and deserved what he got.
Kidnapping a woman (which is something that generally includes sexual stuff) is far far worse than the type of sexual harassment Gaston engaged in.
Yeah Gaston's not a great guy, but you can't compare him to the Beast if you're leaving out the main bad thing the Beast did.
Also, considering that the Beast was kidnapping people, the village was right to storm the castle and it wouldn't have been murder, even if their leader had impure motives.
@@rebeccahicks2392 He didn't kidnap a woman, he kidnapped her father then she offered herself up as tribute.
Yeah, the Beast behaves like a child, but wasn't socialised normally anyways, first being a spoiled little prince, then orphaned, and then transformed and isolated, so he gets a pass. Gaston grew up in a village around normal people with normal relationships, he should know better!
@@rebeccahicks2392 "considering that the Beast was kidnapping people, the village was right to storm the castle and it wouldn't have been murder"
What nonsense you speak... Without knowing the extent of what he's doing to the kidnapped, it absolutely would be murder. Just assuming the worst of him.
I think it’s pretty clear why Gaston wants Belle, theme-wise. It’s explained in the opening song. He says he’s got his sights set on Belle and when LeFou tries to warn him that Belle’s a weirdo, Gaston silences him (by way of smashing his face in with the butt of a rifle, which, I believe, is what gave Rich Evans that Beautiful Mind moment in that episode of BotW).
Then Gaston says he doesn’t give a shit about Belles’s personality. She’s the hottest girl in town, which makes her the best girl in town. Superficiality and judging others solely by their appearance. Classic Beauty and the Beast mistake.
What a great video... what? I can have it?! Awesome, thanks!
PLEEEASE don't ever stop making these critique videos!!! You're one of the few people I've seen who really understands LOGIC and uses sound reasoning in your arguments.
Even if you get swept up in the Screen Junkies craziness, I would be sad if you stopped making these videos! You're awesome! :)
This girl has the best sublte dry humor and such a fun way of going about things it would be really neat to meet her one day and shoot the shit about stuff
Please make more of these! Your commentary verbalizes every fringey nerdy issue I've had with these films
I thought this would be one of the millions of videos about how Belle has Stockholm's, boy am I glad that I was wrong.
To touch on the things you talked about, Beast is also willing to change. Gaston is not.
And not to be 'like everyone else' but the beast would have had to be like eleven years old when the enchantress cursed him so... yeah. I'd be kinda glad he didn't find someone when the curse started or anything like that. Your thing that you focus on is misses pots and chip and yeah that is disturbing but let's also not forget the fact the prince was likely like eleven when he was cursed so... with that in mind he was basically cursed for being a bratty eleven year old.
Also... about the chip thing... did you notice how none of the other kids even seemed to exist when they changed back? Like... they just ceased to exist. Did she have a bunch of babies while she was a tea pot and because they were born cups they disappeared instead of 'changed back' because they had not been around at the beginning of the curse, before it started? So many morbid things can be wondered about in regards to that. So very many things. Like was chip an infant when they were cursed? He would have had to be. What sort of evil bitch curses a baby and somehow isn't a villain but painted as some righteous figure dealing curses out to people who deserve it? What baby even deserves that? Enchantress was an evil vindictive thing, we sure she wasn't related to maleficent or something with the cursing of children and babies being involved? lol No actually I am half serious. At least the same brand of evil.
Why should Gaston change? Just because he is an alpha? Aren't three quarters of fairy tales about a handsome hero who kills a vicious ogre who lives in a castle?
Before I answer. He isn't seeking to change and it's stupid to get involved with people as "projects" as if they aren't people. So don't mistake my answer.
Gaston is a self serving self centered egotistical bastard who constantly gives bell crap for reading and things she just generally likes. He ridicules the people she loves, such as her father, without any thought to Bell's feelings.
He doesn't actually love bell. He doesn't even like Bell. He likes the idea of who he thinks he can change her to be.
He's just an asshole who doesn't want anyone else to have her. He himself doesn't desire bell as a human being nor does he care for the contents of her heart.
Gaston would be happy to obtain Bell like an object and wouldn't care in the least if that resulted in Bell herself being utterly soul wrenchingly miserable.
So yes. Gaston SHOULD change but that's his choice. As for why he should change? Because if you didn't notice Gaston lived in the end, to die alone because he was an unrepentant selfish dickwad who didn't care if Bell wanted him or not, he just wanted to control her life and possess her like one of his trophies he's got mounted on the wall. He wanted her because no one else had obtained her, not because he cared about her as a human being because that is even much deeper than the shallow self centered way Gaston treated Bell. Like a prize to be mounted on his wall, not a living, breathing, thinking, feeling human being whose thoughts and feelings actually mattered to him because it's quite obvious he didn't. So he died alone instead of with someone who'd love him or wanted him even, by his side.
Gaston literally died the way he did specifically as a direct result of the person he was, that which his character embodies.
So yeah. Gaston SHOULD change. It's just not up to anyone else to try to manipulate a change or try to make someone something they are not, something Gaston himself repeatedly tries to do to bell.
That's why.
As for heroes in stories. When was the last time you heard a story like that where the prince forced his will upon an unwilling maiden or stood by while another did so. Being bold itself does not make a hero. It is the values they uphold, the code of honor and heart one lives by.
Besides as an alpha he'd make the worst one in history. It is a terrible Alpha, and one who gets overthrown when pack has reached limit, who puts themselves first instead of pack. Pack that puts up with an alpha so overwhelmingly selfish and otherwise oblivious to the needs of the pack is a dead pack.
Or are you refering to the childish concept some seem to hold onto that being an alpha or otherwise identifying with said concept just means someone who bosses people around and gets what they want when they want it? Even among wolves it is the way of a very short life to put themselves above pack rather than take care of them.
In no way shape or form is he an alpha. Just a charismatic asshole who dies alone because of his own selfish choices. Charisma is not needed for an alpha nor does it make one an alpha. Only actions. Choices. And the support of pack. A lone pup playing alpha is not an alpha at all. Being someone who plays that king of the castle bullshit is the very opposite of an Alpha.
@@juggalo184 Because he disregards the feelings of anyone other than himself and feels entitled to people who aren't attracted to him. Hope this helps!
guys...seriously there's a right way to compliment someone and then there's the creepy way....stop doing the second one
Kaleb Keen ... those dolls creep me out!! 😆
Kaleb Keen you read the comments... you should remember the #1 rule of youtube comments. Don't read them.
Every comment section gets worse the longer you read them.
I died a little inside when I read just a handful of these comments... But then again life expectancy is always getting lower no matter what you do.
Sigurd Kristvik Sounds to me like a cop out. Using just a little common decency shouldn't be considered such a Sisyphean effort that the only alternative is to just ignore all the bad comments. And it's not like anyone is being actively aggressive, just very disrespectful and a little creepy. So knock it off ya crazies
2 ways?
I thought complementing someone on CZcams is *always* creepy
Thanks, Sir Keen. The knighthood should be proud
Just discovered your channel and I've already watched most of your videos, love your perspective on things, keep up the good work.
I always wanted to know how the store owner eats. Just gives away books to the only person in town who actually enjoys them. What kind of business model is that?
In the original Beauty and the Beast, our Beauty or Belle is a normal maiden. She isn't anything special except she is lovely, a beauty, and is very simple. When she goes to be the Beasts prisoner he is kind to her, but she fears his appearance. She is given everything in the palace and anything she wants as long as she stays with the Beast, who keeps asking her to marry him, over and over again. But he's never cruel. She becomes friends with him because he's kind and after a short time she returns home because her Father is ill. Her sisters trick her out of jealousy for her wealthy appearance so that the Beast will die from their broken promise, but she does return. Heart broken over whats happened she tells him she does love him and will marry him, which breaks his spell and he becomes a Prince again. In the original there was never a time limit he was just cursed but he remained Princely but depressed.
There are other version, but most are very much the same. It was Disney that brought gave the story more bite. They made Belle strange for her time, they made the Beast cruel, they gave him a time limit, and added Gaston.
Now here's the thing. If you gave up your freedom right now for someone you love, a family member, a dear friend, and were later told. "I'm cursed to be like this for another few weeks. If you don't love me by then I will never be human again and neither will anyone else in my palace."
Yeah there is no way you'd fall in love with them. Your literally being told to love someone, in Disney's case, was cruel, like hell you'd every love him.
Belle's words would be "I can't just love you, I don't even know you, it takes time" But time is not what the Beast has. So by wanting him or anyone to tell her about the curse is actually wrong because she'd either want nothing to do with him or pity him and neither would be love. So your screwing everyone over.
More then likely those other Tea Cups were the children of the staff that happened to live there as they are never seen in human form or even at the end, so Chip is siblings with them only as a cup. My guess is in the end they ran off to find their real parents in the castle.
Gaston is a spoiled ass. Everyone wants him or likes him except Belle. She is the weirdo in town, because she is beautiful but isn't married or looking for a husband. Or going after Gaston. They don't understand why any woman wouldn't' want a man like Gaston. But that's the problem. Gaston is his own movie. He's the man that learns that he needs to give a damn about others then himself. But he doesn't get that chance because deep down he's a monster. Never judge a book by it's cover.
Never stop making videos. You're so awesome!
Elisha Lansdale ... this one was 🤗! I can't wait for her next one!
If you like her that much - she's yours!
Wh Ponkk ... lol on Jenny's concluding remarks!
oh, thanks! I'll take two
I love the video descriptions you put in these. The Batman V Superman joke is great.
I interpret giving belle the library like this: When you give a room to someone, you give them the authority over it, they can rearrange the furniture, they can do all sorts of stuff including setting the rules, do they want to let people go bearfoot in it and stand on the coffee table? sure, they can do that, it's their room
On, Belle seeing her dying father. Here's a crazy idea.
BEAST: We must go find him and bring him back to the castle. My servants and I will make sure he gets the best care. After he is better, you will both be free to leave, or stay. It's up to you.
And when the Beast was was risking his life to protect her from the wolves. Why didn't this conversation happen:
BELLE: You're risking your life to protect me from the wolves. I love you.
BEAST: Oh crap!
I wonder why HiShE didn't think of that second one. It totally sounds like them. X^D
They did animate something similar to the first one, though. =^p
This is my new favorite channel
I thought I hated videos of people over analyzing stuff.... but I can’t stop watching your videos.
You are mesmerizing.
You are so brilliant. I love your thoughts and ideas, very original and entertaining.
I can't hear "if you like it so much, it's your's" in anything but a sarcastic tone no matter how you say it
Terrifying butcher knife with a face....lost it....hahahahaha
you're my new favorite person on the internet, thank you.
The youtuber who always gets me to think "Oh Yeah" or "Huh" when looking back at movies - Great stuff!
>guy judges by appearances
>most beautiful girl in town is supposed to change him
I guess it counts if he still would love her even if she got into a freak accident and was defaced..?
Have you ever considered animating your interesting questions? You are already a fun storyteller, so narrating from your bed and cutting back and forth with animated scenarios might fit your style. ;) Thanks for the fun videos you make!
Love that you dressed up to talk about this! The crown and dress suit you.
I LOVE the descriptions on all your videos
This entire video was worth it for the "butcher knife" concept, alone.
'Mrs. Potts has a load of children but she only loves chip'
Bruh :)
You crack me up every time. Love your work.
Every video you make just makes me adore you more, you adorable person, you.
Jenny is great. I really admire her.
"Terrifying living butcher knife with a face."
My boss owes me an intro to the automatic soap dispensers
Your videos always get in the trending page. Congrats.
WHY DID YOU UPLOAD THIS AT 1 AM!
WHAT IS THIS? A VIDEO FOR OWLS?
Ben Kulish ... check the background dolls on the bed representing Jenny's audience types!
I demand equality for all animalkind! Rise up day dwellers! We will take back what is rightfully ours!
Dude, this is the internet. You can watch it whenever you want.
You know about time zones, right?
owls like videos too man.
Dunno if you read fanfic but there is a good one about Gaston's redemption called "Picture This" by TrudiRose and I highly recommend it if you want to see how that redemption might realistically endure. Good points, I have this movie memorized and had thought of some but not all of these.
If the beast told Belle about how the curse worked, the romance would feel more an obligation than true love
I interpret the offering of the library being "hers" to be in the same way her bedchambers are "hers" like it's her space to maintain and regulate in her own way, even if she doesn't technically "own" anything in the castle and can roam as she wishes.
lol all of your videos are great.
You're probably the best person I've seen at picking apart all the logical flaws in a movie.
She learned everything from plinkett and the hack frauds at RLM.
Do people even know what a "hack" is anymore? It doesn't just mean you disagree with a person. It means utilizing overused formulas and cliches. I don't think RLM can be accused of that... like them or not.
Calling Mike and Jay 'hacks' is more of an affectionate thing than an actual challenge to their credibility.
The "If you like it so much, it's yours" bit slays me xD
I've been waiting all week to watch this and finally saw Beauty and the Beast.. turns out it was about the animated film woops. I love the wit and observations of your videos!
I love how you wore your shirt off the shoulder, like Belle's dress! ;D You're pretty good at analyzing stories, it's always funny and thought provoking to listen to your take on things. Thanks so much! I'm actually watching the live action movie tonight, so I'll definitely be thinking about your 'implications of the story' to see if any are addressed.
Here is something I'm wondering. Were the servants turned into furniture and household goods, or were they fused with existing furniture? Is there a spare clock, candlestick, and tea set in storage somewhere? Otherwise, this celebration is going to be difficult when nobody knows what time it is, the tea kettle is a lady and all the cups have turned into a daycare center. I won't even ask what happened to any clothes remaining in the wardrobe.
Love your videos...saw you at star wars celebration at the schoedown. Been watching ever since. Lately I can't stop watching your videos lol. Keep it up !
Ahhh, such good points and well delivered! These have always been some of my issues with it too...
You are so amazing!
I haven't had the chance to watch this video or your last one yet but I just wanted to say I'm a 43 year old loser that sings your cover of "A True True Friend" while working in crowded garages on race cars. You are a talented kid. Stay cool.
jokes on you jenny we stay for the after credits every time!
btw jenny said she does not read the comments! we can say anything we want about her!
love your stuff keep it up! muahhaahahaha
Why are you so good??? Love your content!!!!