Installing a Shower Pan Base | Tub to Shower
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- Most request remodeling project these days 💥💥 Tub to walk-in shower 👊 In this video I share my tips and tricks on how to install a shower pan after removing that old tub. If I was a newer contractor wanting to start into this business, this is all I'd be concentrating on. High demand & value in this work. Easy work week 😊 Check out my course on this shower build, It will definitely save you time & 💰💰
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0:00 Intro
1:54 Shower Drain Installation
4:05 Patching subfloor under a shower
6:55 Mortar for shower pan base
8:05 plastic vapor barrier
10:27 Setting a shower pan
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I have watched 2 dozen videos all leaving me with more questions. You my friend have explained each step thoroughly and given such clarity I feel like I know what to do now, THANK YOU! Best video on youtube
Thanks! Exactly what I need ; I’m almost down demo’n and cleaning out all the debris- now I need to selecta base pan
Sir, Your videos and teachings are always so so helpful, and hands down professional and thorough.
An absolute pleasure to watch a master of his craft. The clear explanations throughout are perfect. Learned more skills from 1 video than 50 others. Cheers
I discovered this channel while broadening my understanding of construction and craftsmanship, determined not to accept my current situation blindly. I'm dedicated to expanding my knowledge of construction and proper installation techniques. Your channel allows me to confidently question whether these techniques were properly executed in a project. The default solution of filling gaps with sealant, up to a quarter inch, often prompts an eye roll from me. I even joked about whether sealant could save someone's life from a gaping wound in an emergency situation? Nonetheless, your videos are invaluable, and as a former educator, I deeply appreciate your dedication and expertise in educating your audience.
The guy remodeling my bathroom had the pan unleveled, I called him and no answer, I left him many voicemails but he won’t return my calls .
Thanks to this awesome video I did it myself and came out perfect!
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO !!!!!! 🏆
Best videos ever. No joke, really grateful for the videos. Thank you!
Very well-articulated
Best video on the subject I've seen and I've seen alot.
Where did you buy the 60x35 shower base? Having a hard time finding one.
Good Job. Looks great! One suggestion, If you don't mind. I've run into, a few dozen times, a job where installing a safety hand bar was required. These are usually for handicap or elderly customers. In doing so, I have run into, several times, where there is not adequate blocking or stud spacing for optimal installation. I have opened walls (through Sheetrock) on opposite side of wall and added 2x4 blocking, then patched wall. So, when I do remodel and install new shower walls, with either fiberglass inserts or hardy-back for tile, i always add horizontal blocking in both walls (skipping, of course the shower plumbing wall), at the optimal height for bar installation. Hardy-back/Tile walls are probably strong enough to hold a bar on their own, but i feel better if there's some strength behind there, just in case a heavy person would try to arrest their fall and grab that handle. Safety first. I find that the cost and time to do this is very minimal and explaining to the customer that this was done for future reference, is always appreciated. Anyway, just a suggestion. Keep up the great work. Ty
I always do that as well, also when install a closet, I add blocking for the cloth bracket.
I had a contractor remodel my bathroom. I specifically told him to add blocking to support hand bars. He failed to do as required. I pulled the hand bar away and had to install it again myself with really long screws. I don't know what I caught but I thought I was going to screw into my refrigerator in the kitchen.@@brotherperry2363
Work horse...you break a sweat every day. Appericiate and learn from your content. Thank you again! I have been using expanding foam under my tub and shower pans, works great, is light ,and provides sturdy support.
That's a great idea,Im remolding a bathroom with a stand up shower surround,for a elderly couple,and I was wonder about putting something beneath the the stand up pan.
How much foam does it tale?
wow that wheel tool is amazing.
Very informative. Thank you!
i’m doing the plastic walls also, no tiles do I still need to put drywall up or just the studs?
THANK YOU for the awesome video,, NOW I FEEL READY TO TACKLE THE TASK BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO
Thanks a lot for this video. It was a very good lesson for me
Great job!! It seems easy.
Could I use morter under a pan in a mobile home, or will this add too much weight?
Thank you very much ,very well explained , thorough and detailed very well done
My only comment is that when Ido drains I always put a rag in the drain so that I don’t accidentally drop something down the drain. Great video! Rob
Gracias por tan excelente explicación
Excellent I learned something new today.
Great step by step video thanks
Great video, thx! Is there a shower pan product that one can just insert without mortar underneath, and, can accept tile? Thanks in advance.
Great video
Thanks for sharing your no how with us. Our shower need done to
Amazing how much of a difference/improvement it makes when you sit a pan/tub on a mortar bed. Sounds solid and feels nice and sturdy.
My shower enclosure is really noisy. It pops and creaks when I'm using it, and keeps popping after use when it's cooling down. I think I might have to remove it and start fresh. Darn it!
@@guidosarducci8850 if you could drill holes in the face and put spray from in there you might be able to fix that problem.
Made it very easy thank you
Great vid Steve. Can you please show how to install a double threshold shower pan with a glass surrounding. Thanks for all the knowledge!
So is that a yes on the double threshold shower 🤞🏼🤞🏼? I’ll definitely buy that course 😁
What brands make the best pans?
Good job l like the toll used for cut the pipe drawing thank u for the video,,,.
Thank you for your good work, what kind of false wall did you use to cover the walls before tiling? Is it ordinary wood or a special type that is insulated and anti-moisture?
Nice job !
I like the Oatey 102 solvent weld style better than the version you show (which has a nut that you tighten from bottom and a rubber compression washer that you tighten from top ).
The solvent weld is probably a bit harder to dry fit. But if theres any future issues, theres nothing you would ever need to tighten from bottom; you do everything from the top. Especially if there is no easy maintenance access to bottom, I'd rather do solvent weld style.
(I had a lot of trouble with the style shown in video; seal between pan and drain failed in a number of fiberglass pans in a dormitory and ended up replacing with the solvent weld style...)
I am installing a synthetic marble shower pan on a concrete floor. What would you recommend to put under the pan or does it need anything?
You are the best youtuber on bathroom stuff. I have watched 100+ hours. You go through all of it. You repeat common actions that most people leave out like teflon 4 to 5 times. I've heard you say some stuff over and over so it is trained in my brain. I'm installing a new rough in valve that is a replacement to another model and has a separate hand sprayer so an extra port. We shall see. I wanna be lazy and jerry rig the new one where old one was. Whoever did it used Delta with the pipes holding it up. The new one is too heavy. Dude I didn't even know what a 2x4 was when I started. Every single thing I have to watch 20 videos for just to use a tool. Never used any of my saws yet. So everything is tedious for me. Thank you!
😆 thanks, I sometimes repeat myself too much, but then again remodeling bathrooms become repetitive 😆
Sawz-All... greatest tool ever made!
Great video. thanks
Thank you very much! I have watched this video two times... Just in case.
would this course apply to a pan installed on concrete? I would assume so, but thought I'd ask
Im in a pickel. In my walkin shower I put baby chicks in there just until I got their other place ready. The heat lamp fell in the night and landed face down and burned a hole through the shower floor. Im renting this home really sucks. If you dont think a Bath Fitter cover base then I'll be putting in a new floor I guess. Thank you I'll be watching all your videoes for sure.
Very helpful bro
Very good job thanks
Great. Been. Looking. Too. Do. Both. Bathrooms. An. Shopping. Around. With. Outrageous. Contractors. I. Have. Building skill. Yet. One. Thing. I. Never. Did. In. T. 35. Yrs. Was. Go an Install. Showers ts video. Is. Tops !!
Do you tile the floor then the curb and wall last on a tile shower? Thanks
Awesome video Bro! I've been doing bathrooms for like 15yrs now and every shower drain I've seen like that has leaked for some reason or another, but you've restored my confidence and I look forward to my next one
What type of shower drain is less likely to leak in your experience?
Thank you for your video.
Question: Can I just install only shower pan onto the old ceramic tiles (without tear off the old tiles)?
I watch these videos not because I want to learn how to do it but to understand how it's done
That’s the same thing.
Thank you.
Good job
I just watch a bunch of other video but let me tell ya you’re the first to impress me.
Just one question would a DIYer needs a permit for this job, It’s so tempting I gotta be honest.
I subscribed can you please lmk about if I wanted to build a shower pan using your outline can it be done and if so how different is it
Can I use any kind of plastic to prevent plywood absorbing that moisture?
Good video.
Good video and I love your knee pads !
If the pipe coming up through drain isn’t perfectly level will it still be ok when all said and done?
Do these no calk drains when tightened push the tub up a little bit?
Since removing the old shower with vent, does this new shower not require a vent? TIA
How did you know where to put the drain? It lined up perfectly with the drain hole.
GREAT!!!!
Is it ok to use silicone around the rubber seal?
Thanks for the video. Wonder why you didn't cut the drain pipe first before setting it in stone.
Less likely to mess up the correct distance with a no caulk drain. Just cut to depth needed after setting pan 👍
what is the benefit of using a no caulk drain? @@BathroomRemodelingTeacher
@@mings7337 i suspect its because he doesn't have access to the underside?
I was wondering that also
After having done it now I am in agreement with BathroomRemodelingTeacher.
Use spray foam to support underneath better, in case in the future have leak it's more easy to fix.
Never, never, never!
i couldn't tell but when the 1 1/2 tub drain got cut out , its important to note that by code a 2 inch trap and drain is required. it looked like same 1 1/2 went back? i clicked on this to watch a guy make a pan , but was not exactly as i thought. But I would always recommend people look up the code and learn why and why it is, or even build better then code.
what is the brand name of the shower pan, is it Acrylic?
How big can u get those shower pans i need one like 36 x 60 inches where i am taking out a big Jacuzzi tub and want to put in a walk in shower ?
What type of screw head did you use when you screwd in the pan to the studs?
I nice trick i picked up is to use expansion foam instead of doing a mortar bed. Only downside is you have to watch it and keep it level as it expands, i used two big buckets of water and worked perfectly, just checked it every 5 minutes or so checking the leveling. Bonus is that it won't creak causing the base to crack eventually like it would with mortar.
can you use plumbers putty instead of silicone on the drain?
Don't mind buying your program, am I able to get live help to make sure I have it correct for what I am trying to do?
You don’t need to put any water proof liner before the pan? I see other people doing it in other videos
Any reason to not cut the pvc drain pipe before setting the pan in mortar?
Your awesome
Doesn't low expansion spray foam work just as good as mortar for setting the pan/tub? Thanks!
I really can’t see how it could be better than mortar? But they are making better foams and things these days. I don’t know of a manufacturer that recommends that yet
The instructions for that shower pan he's installing actually tells u to silicone the bottom no mortar
@@psychonaut513 no, no it does not
The one I did was identical but hell who needs instructions..lol
@@psychonaut513 I’m sure there are different methods of installing, if it worked for you good for you 😆
So it's better to use silicone vs plumbers putty to install the drain to shower pan? I'm getting ready to tear out the 1 piece tub/shower today and install shower only kit. So the drain pipe needs to be an inch below the top of the drain, could I also just measure and cut it, fit it before laying down the pan?
According to the delta acrylic pan instructions, you should only use silicone and no plumbers putty
@@MrTheBigNoze That's what I thought, just makes more sense as I've had to replace drains that were installed with puddy and failed.
Putty.@@nikogto
How can I learn online ur course sir
What do I do if a joist lays cross the base directly where the drain is? The joists goes across the base front to back.
What is the name of that pipe cutter? Can it be purchased at Home Depot?
Is true I have to tear down the whole shower to replace shower pan?
I wish I would've found this video sooner 🤦♂️I pull my hair out figuring out the drain. One thing I'm going to do is run a little tube on the floor going to the drain so I can snake a borescope to check for leaks after I set base in mortar
I was really waiting for you to show how the ladder is connected at the end(
If you step in it before the cement cures, you have negated the leveling by compressing the wet concrete. Lastly you don’t raise the base once you set it in place- see above explanation.
I’m assuming he waited for it to cure before
His base was solid level before also
Can you install one of these without cement underneath?
@@nate5381No. The cement acts as support for the pan hollow frame.
@@nate5381the fiberglass rings are what support the pan. The mortar just seems stupid if you ask me. Once it's secured to studs, it won't go anywhere. PL3 each ring and drop her in. Or use a wax ring on each circle. Not a builder
What brand shower base did you use?
which brand shower pan did you use?
I have a question for you, a guy installed a shower bed like this one , what did he do wrong , when I get into the shower , it starts squeaking. I hate it .
Probably used spray foam instead of mortar 😂
Thank you very much
What do you do if you have an odd ball size bath. I am measuring 57.75 wide and 46.5 deep. I can not find anything close to that
Rough framing measurement?
Gotta have the mortar. Replaced shower pan that cracked because there was no underlayment. The uneven floor didnt help either.
Do you have a coupon code for the diy geek package ? Thought I’d ask before I purchase thanks !
If you have purchased a previous course I do. Email me @ bathroomremodelingteacher@gmail if you have I’ll send over code 👍 thanks
Thank you 👍🏽!
So why silicone instead of plumbers putty?
In an acrylic shower pan like this, silicone is better in my opinion. Plumber's putty never hardens, provides no strength or adhesion to either surface and basically just creates a gasket....not really a "permanent" water tight seal. The pan is set PERMANENTLY. The drain assembly should also be attached PERMANENTLY to the pan imo......hence, silicone.
mister you should support under drain pipe not to go down some wood or cement i am not plumber
2” x 1.5” reducer above the trap is a big ol YIKES 😅
What is the issue with that? Honestly wondering.
@Austin V Papp ohhh. Thanks!
He is not a licensed contractor , plastic under mortar, so it's going to be a floating shower pan
@austinvpapp4701, yep in a perfect world, and if it was new construction, replacing a tub with a shower, not worth chasing a 1/2 in., and being a 1/2in. Off code, it will be fine.
Thank you proyect helpme
Most people don't understand what silicone + rubber is doing. Try to put some silicone on rubber gasket on pressurized system then you will never make the same mistake again.
Looks like a young man's game LOL
Go video, but an Oakley video says to never use silicone at the drain
It actually states ABS shower drains should use silicone never putty 👍
A tub is an 1- 1/2 drain, The shower needs to be a 2 inch drain, It is illegal to reduce a drain line, How did you increase the drain line to 2 inch.
Not illegal. IPC allows it
Only a licensed plumber is allowed to modify Or alter plumbing. And an inspection would be required.
@@donaldblank8873 yes 👍
And this is why is better pay the work of a professional that way no fuck ups shows. Great job thanks for demonstrating
Please tell me that you put a wrench or large pliers on the shower drain. Hand tight is not enough. Proper plumbing is meant to last. Twenty years from now, you could have a problem.