LOKI Season 2 Episode 3 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Easter Eggs, Marvel Kang Theories & Review

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    LOKI Season 2 Episode 3 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Easter Eggs, Marvel Kang Theories & Review. We breakdown, recap and explain the new Marvel MCU episode of Loki and discuss all the easter eggs, hidden details and things you missed in it. This includes theories about Loki, who pruned him, Sylvie, Kang, He Who Remains, B-15, The Credits and also the trailer shots that tease what could be coming next time.
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    Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show, I'm your host Paul aka he Who Spoils and it's time to get into our Kangsters paradise with Loki Season 2.
    Things are heating up in a jonathan majors way and we're finally starting to learn more about the big bads backstory. Throughout this video we're gonna be breaking down season 2 episode 3 and discussing all the easter eggs, hidden details and things you missed. Heavy Spoilers ahead and if you enjoy the video please hit the thumbs up and dont forget to subscribe for breakdowns like this every day. With that out the way, huge thank you for clicking this, now let's get into the video.
    Now as always we begin with the marvel studios logo however there's a major difference to the music here.
    Played out on an old timely piano this instantly puts us in the mood for where we'll be heading. That is Chicago in the year 1868 on the sacred timeline. Here we join Ravonna Renslayer who from her perspective has just stepped through the doorway at the end of season 1.
    Now this is a big change up from how Kang is in the comics with the Victor Timely persona even being changed slightly too.
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  • @heavyspoilers
    @heavyspoilers  Před 8 měsíci +22

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    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Před 8 měsíci +1

      I'm still thinking someone is going to be revealed to be a robot, perhaps unknowingly. The show has been hinting it from the start. Heck, I'm thinking maybe Miss minutes later became Ravonna, and her looks have been taken from a Ravonna variant. But more likely, it's Oroborous. I'm thinking that at some point, Miss minutes has gotten a body, an is running around as someone we know. Or a variant of Miss minutes

    • @amopy6398
      @amopy6398 Před 8 měsíci

      Dislike, you blue ball us from : theory time, theory time. Now listen me, multiverse theory is flawed, we only see only human and earth splitting the univers-_- what about the aliens and all the gods, titans and being in the univers, why none of them are in show?

    • @Colynthia
      @Colynthia Před 8 měsíci

      @11:14 I thought this was an ode to Lewis Howard Latimer, as the light bulb was already invented (see it lighting the city) but he improved the design and went on to light entire cities. As Timely wants to

    • @antonissa8345
      @antonissa8345 Před 8 měsíci

      But really is the Titanic part true?

    • @BoinkrNanis
      @BoinkrNanis Před 8 měsíci

      I'm gonna say, I think revona and mobious used to be a couple before the TVA. Last episode was about remembering mobious past and how it could've been good. Then this episode we get their argument as they walked and talked about how they USED to be good together and when they met up, Kang was in the middle of them.

  • @covertTJ
    @covertTJ Před 8 měsíci +185

    The refrigerator chair is actually super significant! Refrigeration/air conditioning was a difficult technology to figure out because while heating things up is easy, cooling them down is hard! Ravonna is unimpressed, but the people of his time would be astounded. Cooling requires reversal of entropy within a closed system which slows/reverses the effects of TIME(: Kang being the inventor is also a nod toward this technology irl being invented by a Black man named Fredrick McKinley Jones. Incredibly layered scene.

    • @covertTJ
      @covertTJ Před 8 měsíci +29

      This is also why he brags that the chair can COOL her cushion rather than bragging about seat warmers.

    • @chittalkstudio
      @chittalkstudio Před 8 měsíci +10

      This comment!!!!!!❤❤❤❤

    • @gavinthegoliath
      @gavinthegoliath Před 8 měsíci +11

      Very similar to the Time chair from Quantumania, the side fridge bits like where Janet is trying to fix the engine core and where she touches it and sees the truth.

    • @toplookingdown971
      @toplookingdown971 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Great point!

    • @covertTJ
      @covertTJ Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@gavinthegoliath didn't catch that!

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo Před 8 měsíci +430

    Seeing Miss Minuets fawn over Victor Timely and saw that she yearned for a physical body really creeped me out. That was really unsettling.

    • @refelicia824
      @refelicia824 Před 8 měsíci +62

      Brooooo I thought it was me alone. I don’t know how they single handedly made a clock more scary than anything i saw in multiverse of madness 😩😩😩

    • @midago7332
      @midago7332 Před 8 měsíci +25

      Brilliant, creepy as hell like Twilight Sparkles going pshyco 😂

    • @craigfernandes531
      @craigfernandes531 Před 8 měsíci +1

      TRUE

    • @tasha7726
      @tasha7726 Před 8 měsíci +3

      For Victor too.

    • @daudimasinde6280
      @daudimasinde6280 Před 8 měsíci +18

      Duuuude, that was bizarre. She just become a predator out of nowhere. Definitely did not see that coming. Rubbed me absolutely the wrong way ick.

  • @EnterNameHere22
    @EnterNameHere22 Před 8 měsíci +147

    Theory time: the original he who remains is a scientist from the future like he said he was in season one. When he remade the mcu into the sacred timeline, he placed a version of himself in it as a sort of insurance policy if they ever needed a new Kang to restart the multiversal war and eventually come back into power, but purposefully planted him in a time where the technology limited him, preventing him from doing it without external help. I really feel like there was something more to him constantly bringing up how his current time period was the only thing keeping him from his full potential

    • @lukecowley470
      @lukecowley470 Před 8 měsíci +8

      So much this. :)

    • @ThatStevenLouis
      @ThatStevenLouis Před 8 měsíci +18

      Oh I fucks with it!
      Remember when we first met He Who Remains at the end of season 1 and he gives his backstory? He says there were variants along with himself that worked for peace even though they were selfish or whatever, and then there were the variants who were conquerors and started the war. He Who Remains was just the one that ducked off, found Alioth, weaponized it, and ended the war.....but he wasn't the ONLY variant fighting for "harmony". He didn't kill em all, only the "Kang" types, and even tells team Loki "If you think I'm the devil, wait until you meet my variants."
      This definitely works knowing every variant wasn't his enemy/threat and there was a squad of em building together while preventing incursions

    • @farid-frederick
      @farid-frederick Před 8 měsíci +9

      Hold up, i think he's cooking something good

    • @ThatStevenLouis
      @ThatStevenLouis Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@farid-frederick fam he's COOKING cooking!

    • @PermanentHigh
      @PermanentHigh Před 8 měsíci +3

      You know what I think?? I think that Victor Timely is not HWR but instead Kang The Conqueror.
      What's gonna happen is that after he conquers everything, he will place a version of himself IN THE FUTURE as a failsafe so that he DOESN'T have to struggle with tech at first, and to conquer things sooner and faster to become The Conqueror. But what ends up happening is that THAT Kang in the future actually ends up using his tech to eventually find Kang The Conqueror, defeating Victor Timely and become HWR, who then places a version of himself in the past as a failsafe. And the loop repeats itself

  • @brennanbarnes7628
    @brennanbarnes7628 Před 8 měsíci +45

    My favorite part of the episode was the very last scene, LOVED how they don't show Miss Minutes's face yet you can 100% hear the smile as she says 'But it's gonna make you reeeeeal angry'. Miss Minutes is LOVING this moment and it's scary as hell.

  • @SS4Luxray
    @SS4Luxray Před 8 měsíci +85

    Jonathan’s performance as Victor was brilliant. He brought of emotional innocence with a little touch of mischief to the performance. Ravonna was great and I really loved Miss Minutes. But we have to shoutout the production and costume design this episode. Those shots and sets of the World’s Fair was amazing and Ravonna’s costume during the Fair was really good.

  • @TheGamer_MJ
    @TheGamer_MJ Před 8 měsíci +438

    I didn’t think they’d do the Ravonna and Victor Love from the comics but they did it well, also how dare they leave us on a cliffhanger like that. What was she gonna tell her?

    • @JacuboYT
      @JacuboYT Před 8 měsíci +90

      I’m guessing it’s how Kang kept her far away due to how she got killed every time he loved her and was with her

    • @ZardGamez
      @ZardGamez Před 8 měsíci +75

      she could be a kang varient herself :O

    • @TimeKeeperBris
      @TimeKeeperBris Před 8 měsíci +16

      Perhaps there’s another Kang behind it all?

    • @bonnafide2606
      @bonnafide2606 Před 8 měsíci +49

      Maybe it's a dumb idea, but maybe Ravonna in her original timeline was a teenage Kang's school principal. He kidnapped her from her own timeline to keep her permanently in the TVA. She wasn't a variant, he just had the hots for her. That could make her angry at him.

    • @Iamkingk1000
      @Iamkingk1000 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@bonnafide2606or kang was a teacher maybe

  • @Quettasbedhead
    @Quettasbedhead Před 8 měsíci +20

    Jonathan's performance was amazing. They clearly wanted him to appear sly con man, and he has a stuttering issue, which i think is a great representation

  • @mattgriffinreal
    @mattgriffinreal Před 8 měsíci +169

    The budget was spent very well in this episode. I'm impressed, and this is exactly what MCU fans want to see - good use of the money that we invest in this universe with a storyline that keeps us awake.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 Před 8 měsíci +5

      I’m already lost. I don’t follow everyone’s motivations. Renslayer and Loki want the same thing but they’re fighting. Renslayer wants Kang to rise but also wants to kill him, which also what Sylvie wants but they’re fighting . Sylvie wants to kill Renslayer but she doesn’t.

  • @ethanferguson12
    @ethanferguson12 Před 8 měsíci +166

    Bro Miss Minutes was on something else my lord😭😭

    • @reignhoops2215
      @reignhoops2215 Před 8 měsíci +24

      She was giving scorn side chick vibes. Wild jealous

    • @CopreJack2
      @CopreJack2 Před 8 měsíci +32

      Bruhhh when I seen how she was acting on the ship, I was like yea she trying to get clapped lmao

    • @TheToastWithButterGuy
      @TheToastWithButterGuy Před 8 měsíci +14

      She made me cringe fr. The whole “mad with love” shtik was mad uncomfortable.

    • @d444nnyy
      @d444nnyy Před 8 měsíci +11

      nah when she went crazy at end i was dying😭

    • @al1383
      @al1383 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Everyone gets that itch that needs scratching

  • @Rattmouse
    @Rattmouse Před 8 měsíci +71

    I really want mobius to be the one to prune loki. He was so heartbroken in the first episode when he thought he couldn’t save his friend, it would be nice to see him find loki in the finale so he can have a more active role in saving him from time slipping and we can see that come full circle.

    • @monsterjs2608
      @monsterjs2608 Před 8 měsíci +3

      This one is good right here I would love that!

    • @gavrazefanda1438
      @gavrazefanda1438 Před 8 měsíci

      I know right, because let's be honest, it will be too predictable if the one that prune Loki is Loki himself. I was even more expecting it to be Sylvie at first, but Mobius doesn't sound bad

  • @sinteleon
    @sinteleon Před 8 měsíci +37

    I'd note that the 1893 time period Loki went to is a branched timeline, meaning the Kang at that point is technically a variant, rather than the main 'Kang' of the sacred timeline.

  • @jbeast313
    @jbeast313 Před 8 měsíci +32

    This show continues to get better and is by far the best Marvel content we have gotten in a long long time

  • @culchiefilms1791
    @culchiefilms1791 Před 8 měsíci +116

    It starts off as the Sacred Timeline before Ravonna jumps ahead, then it becomes a branched timeline. Since HWR controlled the Sacred Timeline, maybe he placed his younger self somewhere he would be limited by technology essentially making him harmless. In the Sacred Timeline he is just a dreamer. Renslayer created a branch by giving him the TVA book so that means it is probably not HWR's original origin

    • @Noone-jn3jp
      @Noone-jn3jp Před 8 měsíci +5

      If this is true the only way this could happen is if the TVA was in chaos because they would have detected it

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 Před 8 měsíci +19

      This is what I’m thinking.
      Because in Loki season 1 they do state he’s from the 31st century originally, so it doesn’t make sense this would be his original origin.

    • @Marshkoon
      @Marshkoon Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@joshuacollins9316it’s not exactly him but someone who will become him he possibly looked at the other versions of himself and as we hear he setup the plan to recreate a HWR who will have to solve the issue slyvie made

    • @culchiefilms1791
      @culchiefilms1791 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@Noone-jn3jp When Loki and Sylvie arrive 1893 it says on screen 'branched timeline' but when Renslayer 1st drops off the book it says 'sacred timeline'. The TVA is im chaos too

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@Marshkoon Correct.
      If everything HWR said is true, this is the only thing that really makes sense with what we know so far.

  • @Moncriefs
    @Moncriefs Před 8 měsíci +9

    Man, I haven't felt that way watching a TV episode in a LONGGGGGG time!

  • @Alexza1980
    @Alexza1980 Před 8 měsíci +94

    I do feel very spoiled by your channel!! As soon as I'm done watching Loki, I run to your channel for you to make sense of all the things that don't make sense to me. Another amazing review, Paul! 👏 Thank you 🤗

    • @XxRainbowFritexX
      @XxRainbowFritexX Před 8 měsíci +3

      Literally anytime I watch anything popular. Immediately look up the breakdown! 😆

    • @amenta53
      @amenta53 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Fr was surprised this was up already and so long

  • @deadpoolnerd
    @deadpoolnerd Před 8 měsíci +16

    I love by the end you really feel in Victor's place. Caught in the chaos of everything. Got a magic man wanting to take you to the future, a magic woman wanting to slit your throat, a weirdly horny ai cartoon clock, and a crazed woman wanting control at any cost. All the while hearing that you do terrible things and become a terrible person.

    • @chittalkstudio
      @chittalkstudio Před 8 měsíci +3

      Yeah. That is CRAZY overwhelming 😂

    • @Natta44
      @Natta44 Před 8 měsíci

      Must be bizarre to have two women especially in 1800s trying to kill him. The irony when H.Holmes was about murdering people. I loved how he called Loki a wizard ❤ Like when Tony called Strange a wizard.

  • @SdeHe-qb9gc
    @SdeHe-qb9gc Před 8 měsíci +45

    I really like that miss minuites and ravonna are the bad guys so far this season, I always thought miss minuites had evil intentions.

    • @cancanjaker1620
      @cancanjaker1620 Před 8 měsíci +5

      I think it is brilliant that Miss Minutes is not just some cute cartoon with AI. It is AI that is way too advanced for humans' good.

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 Před 8 měsíci +15

    I thought this was another brilliant episode from Loki this season! This is what Disney Plus shows should strive to be across the board! This exciting and this entertaining!

  • @thewayofthebeard3680
    @thewayofthebeard3680 Před 8 měsíci +9

    to each their own butII was completely mesmerized by Majors' Tmely portrayal. It's going to be fascinating to see where he ends up & then look back at who he started as.

  • @ChinnuSped
    @ChinnuSped Před 8 měsíci +5

    the speech vicotr timely gave when he was facing sylve really moved me to tears.

  • @BuckyBarnesATL
    @BuckyBarnesATL Před 8 měsíci +3

    12:54 Paul uses the best references. I usually end up doing so many screen shots so I can zoom in. Then I end up being interested even more, then research, and then find out allot of interesting stuff myself. So I appreciate that he does this, I bet he/we all have learned so much more about history from his videos.

  • @averystanley7013
    @averystanley7013 Před 8 měsíci +10

    One of my favorite d+ episodes so far, Johnathan Majors is one of one he’s just incredible in this episode

  • @jafariwells1287
    @jafariwells1287 Před 8 měsíci +13

    Can honestly say the roller coaster this episode took us on rivals Season 1. GREAT EPISODE

  • @Gersheyz
    @Gersheyz Před 8 měsíci +43

    What if OB is the one paving the road for He Who Remains, and therefore the architect of everything? If I'm gonna reach anyway, OB being the One Above All would be quite a twist

    • @trafficcone7344
      @trafficcone7344 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I have a feeling they’re gonna do this. It would be an interesting way to recast Kang with the whole Johnathan Majors situation.

    • @MetroManCL
      @MetroManCL Před 8 měsíci

      Bad news loki has not been reshot.... so the Majors Kang is not going to chsnge unless they lied about no reshoots... sorry bout that

    • @DrewTrox
      @DrewTrox Před 8 měsíci +1

      I bet he was the back up in case the Jonathan Majors situation didn't work out.

    • @imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455
      @imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455 Před 8 měsíci +1

      OB's name suggest that too. He learned all the TVA stuff from TVA and then made the guidebook which then inspired Kang to make TVA itself. Its all a loop.

  • @gaper1287
    @gaper1287 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I liked the portrayal of victor, we haven’t seen a version of Kang before he experiences the true things that make him become that terrifying figure. They showed him with the time travel chair tho and you do see the potential for his character after that opening introduction

  • @Hankdatank95
    @Hankdatank95 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Miss. Minutes wanted to get soooooome 🤣🤣🤣

  • @dogcatcher7041
    @dogcatcher7041 Před 8 měsíci +54

    I think timely is within a branch here that will always occur. This timeline doesn't prune. Instead, ravona creates a paradox that allows timely to reach his potential as he who remains. I think he created this timeline from a branch so he can create a loop in the TVA

    • @Luneytoon
      @Luneytoon Před 8 měsíci +1

      But the title says sacred timeline

    • @elisandroku
      @elisandroku Před 8 měsíci +8

      ​@@Luneytoon first she landed sacred timeline's 1868 but when 1893 it was the branch timeline anymore.

    • @norwegiantacoeater9115
      @norwegiantacoeater9115 Před 8 měsíci +4

      This makes the most sense to me as well.

    • @Luneytoon
      @Luneytoon Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@elisandroku thank you

    • @kranx2690
      @kranx2690 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I always had a feeling it would be some sort of loop. I think it's going to be some crazy mindfuck where kang is right back where he was originally. By the time loki gets to him it will be too late. It might end full circle where they were last season

  • @CharlesSpadina3030
    @CharlesSpadina3030 Před 8 měsíci +10

    In terms of his voice I just assumed it was a byproduct of the time period. Anti-literacy laws in the 1800s were as such that Victor’s formal education options were grim if not entirely non-existent. It’s likely his sole form of education was the TVA handbook. From there he was a seemingly reclusive inventor so in that sense, the stuttering, the not always making eye contact, all of those things, to me, rang true because of those factors. The greater comfort with his words that he seemed to attain throughout the episode, again imo, added to the presentation.

  • @AlexisAdrian00
    @AlexisAdrian00 Před 8 měsíci +27

    Episode just ended, you upload right away, best channel out there

    • @mathiasfrandsen5468
      @mathiasfrandsen5468 Před 8 měsíci

      i agree insane dedication and speed

    • @TodaysAGoodDayBro
      @TodaysAGoodDayBro Před 8 měsíci +2

      Insider knowledge, this was done way before we seen the episode

    • @mathiasfrandsen5468
      @mathiasfrandsen5468 Před 8 měsíci

      yeah okay but still to get tothat position you have to be dedicated and love your carft witch i really feel he does with all the ekstar humor and so on in the video@@TodaysAGoodDayBro

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@mathiasfrandsen5468Are you fr lol they get the episodes early😂
      It would be impossible to watch the episode, take notes about Easter eggs and other info, record a voice over, cut out clips from the episode and other media, and edit it all together that fast lol
      Vids like this take hours if not a full day to make minimum.

    • @mathiasfrandsen5468
      @mathiasfrandsen5468 Před 8 měsíci

      i guess your right i learned something new thank you@@joshuacollins9316

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Victor Timely has the same speech pattern as Immortus from the Quantumania post credit scene, and the whole "no partners" thing makes sense since Immortus was the leader of the Council of Kangs.

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 Před 8 měsíci

      Leader and Partners are two different things.

    • @kylecarter1599
      @kylecarter1599 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @sophiawilson8696 obviously, that's why I said he leads the Council of Kangs.

  • @theoriginapalmerjd45
    @theoriginapalmerjd45 Před 8 měsíci +10

    O.B.needs to be a constant because he who remains can't have Rensselaer give him the T.V.A manual if O.B never existed.

  • @nephiilim
    @nephiilim Před 8 měsíci +6

    i loved his take. it was dope. he's definitely sympathetic and human

  • @jamiereecestanworth1341
    @jamiereecestanworth1341 Před 8 měsíci +17

    I appreciate the dedication from Paul to get us the breakdown. My guy still sounds proper ill. Love the breakdown mate!

  • @jamescartwright1150
    @jamescartwright1150 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I felt this weeks episode was a little slower in places than previous episodes. I did like how Loki's Chicago clothes had some green in them.

  • @vale.may.
    @vale.may. Před 8 měsíci +36

    I honestly loved this episode, I loved Jonathan Majors acting and his storyline this episode. It showed us more about him and I’m curious what’s going to happen next, like is he gonna betray everyone at the end or is this variant different and has a heart? I just found so interesting as well that they showed us more of the relationship between miss minutes and him! Never thought for a second that she was in love with him! That was a twist lmao
    Can’t wait for next week!!

    • @chittalkstudio
      @chittalkstudio Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah I was actually loving his acting. This series is chefs kiss! 🤌🏽

  • @mikebenninghoff
    @mikebenninghoff Před 8 měsíci +7

    1.) Not dumped in the sea- Chicago is on a lake. 2.)And they showed them passing the fair on the boat going from right to left. That would mean they were going south(ish)as Chicago is on the (south)west(ish)coast - away from WI which was their supposed destination.

    • @al1383
      @al1383 Před 8 měsíci +1

      👍 Now do timelines, alternate universes, and time travel....

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 Před 8 měsíci +1

      That’s what you’re nitpicking? Because considering the complex topics discussed in this series, they’re doing pretty good if that’s the only part.

  • @Luneytoon
    @Luneytoon Před 8 měsíci +8

    I think OB has always existed. He is like the book in the bootstrap paradox. He has no beginning and no end and the TVA exist within his universe.

  • @abdohafe
    @abdohafe Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love your channel. - Can’t wait for the next episode.

  • @IsiahBradley
    @IsiahBradley Před 8 měsíci

    YAY!!! THANKS for this, Paul!!!!!

  • @UndeadSkater591
    @UndeadSkater591 Před 8 měsíci +25

    I don't believe this Victor Timely is He Who Remains. In the beginning, when we see Renslayer arrive to drop off the book, the subtext says "Sacred Timeline". When Loki and Mobius arrive, it says "Branched Timeline". Idk maybe I'm crazy, or it was an editing error.

    • @norwegiantacoeater9115
      @norwegiantacoeater9115 Před 8 měsíci +7

      The sacred timeline might be a conversion of the branched one Ravonna made when she dropped the book, where she creates a paradox that ensures Timely is the variant who ends up as He Who Remains. Do we know for sure that the sacred timeline was the first original timeline? Or is it just the timeline where the winner of the Kang war was from? Because if that’s the case then He Who Remains could most certainly have overtrown another Kang variant and inserted his own timeline as the sacred one and further creating said paradox to make sure he always stays in power.

    • @Matt-fh4bk
      @Matt-fh4bk Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@norwegiantacoeater9115this shit just fried my brain

    • @jimsto7453
      @jimsto7453 Před 8 měsíci +2

      May have become a branched timeline because of her dropping him the TVA book

    • @ayarza2
      @ayarza2 Před 8 měsíci

      It was the sacred timeline until Loki and Mobius showed up and altered it.

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ayarza2no it was a branched timeline when they arrived. It became branched because of the book.

  • @cheekster777
    @cheekster777 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Thank you Paul.

  • @briangreene7085
    @briangreene7085 Před 8 měsíci

    another great vid, Cheers Paul

  • @philipansa4568
    @philipansa4568 Před 8 měsíci +6

    When it comes to variants, we've seen how there are some shared traits among them (loki w/trust issues, spidey w/tragedy, strange having trouble 'sharing the knife', etc).
    With the kang variants, I wonder if the shared trait there is loneliness. HWR, the conqueror and timely, for all their smarts or power, they seem to be kind of sad behind all of it.

    • @Natta44
      @Natta44 Před 8 měsíci

      I see Kang as Tony but as villain. Too smart for his own good. Wanting to control everything, thinking its for the best, endless curiosity for pushing the boundary of science. Becoming God like through use of tech. Becoming obsessed with his work, having an ego clearly. Struggling to work in a team or partnership, at least at first. Both have an AI capable of evil. They are very similar it's uncanny.

    • @philipansa4568
      @philipansa4568 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Natta44 yeah there are similarities between the two

  • @Hollowdude15
    @Hollowdude15 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great job breaking down it man and nice video man :]

  • @RealAndySkibba
    @RealAndySkibba Před 8 měsíci +8

    What an episode!
    I think we actually see Timley in the TVA in E1, shortly before Mobius and Loki have their talk in the hallway. No time stamp i can recall.

  • @SdeHe-qb9gc
    @SdeHe-qb9gc Před 8 měsíci +9

    Loki season 1 was my favorite marvel show and this season already has a stronger start then last season imo.

    • @itscalebgreen
      @itscalebgreen Před 8 měsíci +1

      IT DOES, HOPING THIS SEASON REMAINS STRONG.

  • @jasonbowen3842
    @jasonbowen3842 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Good on ya, you’re wit is brilliant.

  • @NeverLetOff
    @NeverLetOff Před 8 měsíci +3

    OMG I love this show so much! Epic review!

  • @ajrestivo
    @ajrestivo Před 8 měsíci +7

    Oroborus is a miss minutes type ai that kang actually did give a body. Because he needed him to be able to interact with things to be able to fix them. But they were compartmentalized so he would always end up with full control.

    • @cleverlilvixen
      @cleverlilvixen Před 8 měsíci

      Is this a theory, or do you have insider information?

    • @farid-frederick
      @farid-frederick Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@cleverlilvixendefinitely theory

    • @Natta44
      @Natta44 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Literally my theory. I noticed he seems unemotional, like he doesn't get certain social cues. "We are all gonna die! Nice to meet you" Seems a bit non human. He takes some things said literally, that a programme would do if they don't get emotional context. I'm almost certain he's an android now. Hence why his memory isn't wiped as he's the bank of knowledge. He said he runs diagnostics too probs as a back up for miss minutes.

    • @merrytunes8697
      @merrytunes8697 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Natta44this is A GREAT THEORY!

  • @mathiasfrandsen5468
    @mathiasfrandsen5468 Před 8 měsíci

    The uploade speed omg amazing! respect honestly!

  • @kcbooff
    @kcbooff Před 8 měsíci +4

    @26:14 If you pause the video at this exact moment, you see a still shot of Oroborous walking away from his red elevator seat as it ascends back up. I could be reaching here, but the seat looks like devil horns on the sides of his head, which could later foreshadow Oroborous being the villain of the show.

    • @Natta44
      @Natta44 Před 8 měsíci

      Oroborus is an AI with a body. Calling it. He has a great memory, doesn't sleep, eat or use the bathroom from assumption. If all TVA agents were Androids it would stack up even more. In terms of they are a clone of their variants.

  • @DraaelD
    @DraaelD Před 8 měsíci +13

    You just made a great point I needed to tie O.B into the story of being a villain. He needs temporal energy of it's creator, he wrote the book, he himself is the creator. O.B had Loki and Mobius bring Kang to him for...revenge?

    • @mathiasfrandsen5468
      @mathiasfrandsen5468 Před 8 měsíci +3

      that would be dope

    • @BetaBreaking
      @BetaBreaking Před 8 měsíci +2

      O.B. is a Kang Variant? Would save them having to find some to recast. I wanna know more about O.B. because with so many extremely smart people within the MCU, couldn't he be someone important? Like say a Reed Richards variant?

    • @jaynekranc8607
      @jaynekranc8607 Před 8 měsíci

      If OB is the villian I want to know who at Marvel, when asked, "Who should we get to play the villian in season two of Loki" popped out the name Ke Huy Quan, because that was one messed up jump.

  • @redmatrix
    @redmatrix Před 8 měsíci +59

    My theory is that Ravonna is a Kang variant. Why not? There's a female Loki variant.

    • @johnblair2361
      @johnblair2361 Před 8 měsíci +10

      I think all the workers at the tva n even ms minutes are all variants of kang but the "good" ones

    • @pirate94170
      @pirate94170 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the TVA's story about the Multiversal War is partially true and that He Who Remains won the war with the help of an other Kang variant (Ravonna) plus Miss Minute (3 entities like the Time Keepers) to just betrayed them all at the end because he wanted to be alone on the throne. By brainwashing Ravonna into an obedient pawn and keeping Miss Minute from being truly free by not giving her a body

    • @cancerino666
      @cancerino666 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Love the idea and was thinking the same, but doubt it, because she has a place in the timeline.

    • @QuickThekidd
      @QuickThekidd Před 8 měsíci

      @@johnblair2361if they were wouldn’t they fix the loom

    • @johnblair2361
      @johnblair2361 Před 8 měsíci

      @QuickThekidd I dnt think so because there's only ONE dominant to conquer it all...hence to the other "variants"

  • @BretMuckdogs
    @BretMuckdogs Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks Paul!

  • @cougargray4031
    @cougargray4031 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Excited to watch it

  • @Wafolguy
    @Wafolguy Před 8 měsíci +5

    one might say that OB could be the one who fixes everything everywhere all at once

    • @kiwigaming09
      @kiwigaming09 Před 8 měsíci +3

      He has all the data for Fixing everything

  • @enrique_ur1zar
    @enrique_ur1zar Před 8 měsíci +17

    Heavy Spoilers, I got to be honest, out of all CZcams channels that discuss recent episodes of tv series, yours is the most entertaining, as well as inclusive for the audience. I don't feel that your content is made to cut the viewer for money, but for genuine fun. Thanks for being you, can't wait for your next episode review :D.

    • @ChedWick05
      @ChedWick05 Před 8 měsíci

      And he doesn't shill shitty cereal.

  • @3dpooltile829
    @3dpooltile829 Před 8 měsíci

    Well done!

  • @BatDadi
    @BatDadi Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for the great video! You give the best reviews on everything. Was a little sad I did here the usual "theory time" intro we normally get, it was still a good theory though. Thanks again!

  • @krishna_2019
    @krishna_2019 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Here is my theory on what secret Ms Minutes knows about Ravonna. What if He Who Remains transferred/transfers the consciousness of Ravonna into the Ms Minutes AI he created/creates before he wiped/wipes Ravonna's mind and sent/sends her to the TVA.
    Also, I liked Majors' portrayal of Victor Timely. It was like the Nutty Professor meets the Wizard of Oz. It will be interesting to see how Timely evolves/evolved into HWR.

  • @nickiminajfan1100
    @nickiminajfan1100 Před 8 měsíci +8

    You missed the fact Rama-Tut was in Ant Man 3. He was referenced again after Moon Knight.

  • @alifpr
    @alifpr Před 8 měsíci

    Great video as always man! Excited to see where the next few episodes go and can’t wait on your thoughts on them.
    The titanic joke tho 😂😂

  • @HKWWrestling
    @HKWWrestling Před 8 měsíci

    This video was great

  • @nicholasgarrick8855
    @nicholasgarrick8855 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Im very upset we didnt get to see the tandem bike ride.

  • @occheermommy
    @occheermommy Před 8 měsíci +6

    I felt like the stuttering was all part of his geeky persona to make “investors” think he was a harmless nerd and then he runs off with their money. At the end of the day he was a con man and it was part of the act. That is why he got better toward the end of the show. And if he is a con man now maybe he always was and OB was really the brains behind the operation and they are going to figure it all out.

  • @Moqbelsaggar
    @Moqbelsaggar Před 8 měsíci

    Thxxx

  • @mona.7553
    @mona.7553 Před 8 měsíci

    Thankyou paul

  • @No1ANTAGON1ST
    @No1ANTAGON1ST Před 8 měsíci +7

    Oroboros seems to be quite content with his job, like a lot of tva agents, is the only problem with your theory. No hints of anger riling within him at all.

    • @Natta44
      @Natta44 Před 8 měsíci +1

      It's the fact that he's so content with his job which is unnerving. All other workers seem to be more emotional and want to know about their life. He seems unemotional. Like he's either an android, some bad guy behind the scenes or something else..

    • @No1ANTAGON1ST
      @No1ANTAGON1ST Před 8 měsíci +1

      @Natta44 his facade should show some crack, at least foreshadowing for the audience, but he hasn't shown any signs of fowl play or emotional slippage.

  • @kylewarren5268
    @kylewarren5268 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I wonder if o.b. knows everyone has a memory wipe. They way he was talking to Mobius sounded like he didn't know Mobius wouldn't remember him

  • @Facethefacts020
    @Facethefacts020 Před 8 měsíci

    Goat with the brake down

  • @MehmetKultigen-pu2vi
    @MehmetKultigen-pu2vi Před 5 měsíci

    teşekkürler güzel olmuş

  • @ladymecha8718
    @ladymecha8718 Před 8 měsíci +3

    4:32 it’s not a bootstrap paradox though, because the TVA book was written by Oroborus. He is the one that came up with the TVA tech, with Kang variant only improving it.
    Addendum, we also don’t know if this is a closed loop. It could be original Kang, to Oroborus, to variant Kang, here.

  • @ZardGamez
    @ZardGamez Před 8 měsíci +7

    i reckon ravonna is gonna be a kang varient

  • @erikagholston6610
    @erikagholston6610 Před 8 měsíci

    I loved this episode & can't wait to see the next one.

  • @JKUTWatcher
    @JKUTWatcher Před 8 měsíci +40

    Another good episode, but I felt as though Loki got very little screen time. Understandable Victor / Kang needed to be developed.

    • @Football__is__life-k
      @Football__is__life-k Před 8 měsíci +6

      Others need character development too bro.
      And at the end it's not all about loki it's about setting kang danasty and multiversal Saga

    • @dillydraws
      @dillydraws Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@Football__is__life-k Same with Sylvi. Her and Loki had a ton of screen time in season 1 so in season 2 we're seeing the other characters get more to do and development.

  • @MuscleBound_withDre
    @MuscleBound_withDre Před 8 měsíci +3

    I have a feeling that they’re going to write Miss Minutes as a weird psycho love story where she was the original Romona Renslayer and Kang basically made her his slave….

  • @jamespryor4959
    @jamespryor4959 Před 8 měsíci

    Used ur link to download And smashed that like button. I gotcha brother👍🏾

  • @jaygramz07
    @jaygramz07 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Now that was a good episode 👏

  • @michaeld.lancaster4953
    @michaeld.lancaster4953 Před 8 měsíci +12

    This episode was 🔥. What heck did we just watch? What a cliff hanger. Miss minutes is just pure evil

  • @juliant
    @juliant Před 8 měsíci +3

    I want a full breakdown of what was in the book when Victor was talking to Renslayer and mentioned ouroboros

  • @abdohafe
    @abdohafe Před 8 měsíci

    Great analyst

  • @TheTenthDoctorandHisTardis
    @TheTenthDoctorandHisTardis Před 8 měsíci +1

    Miss Minutes continues to be the most terrifying Single White Female-ing stalker EVER. 😂
    I agree with Paul that the Victor variant was a little hard to warm up to at first. When I saw what an epic grifter he was, I got why he was doing that in the role. At that time in history, Black men were seen as unintelligent and mistraling was expected. So to see someone so cunning playing his audience that way made sense. I think this version of Kang is particularly dangerous and he’s playing them all.
    Loki seeing his dad and brother with Balder was heartbreaking. Seeing that he was overlooked and the grief of seeing them. The swift turn to say Thor wasn’t that tall was a definite throwback to their rivalry but still soften to show Loki misses him. Appreciated the Balder Easter egg too.
    Hiddleston continues to deliver an epic performance that deserves many awards.

  • @oatlord
    @oatlord Před 8 měsíci +2

    Maybe Ravonna..........IS the human Miss Minutes.
    I'm basing that on nothing but wild speculation.

  • @brmawe
    @brmawe Před 8 měsíci +38

    You can tell that Victor is an ok guy who just wants to do his best or at least that's what we see as of now. Don't get me wrong he is far from perfect but the people around him just want to use him, especially Ravonna.

    • @monsterjs2608
      @monsterjs2608 Před 8 měsíci +5

      I think he’s playing the part.

    • @stevendchu
      @stevendchu Před 8 měsíci +13

      Well he seems to be a con man, but compared to his variants that literally commit multiversal genocide, yes he's an alright guy

    • @carbodude5414
      @carbodude5414 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Save for the fact that he's willing to betray others, including ones he has feelings for, because he refuses to share power

    • @farid-frederick
      @farid-frederick Před 8 měsíci

      Never far from the blueprint

  • @DaOnlyMed
    @DaOnlyMed Před 8 měsíci +1

    Extremely impressive how you got this video out so far

  • @lunaticz0r
    @lunaticz0r Před 8 měsíci

    AKA HE WHO SPOILS GOT ME right at the start (new viewer here). Im loving this :D

  • @norwegiantacoeater9115
    @norwegiantacoeater9115 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Since Ravonna was on the sacred timeline in her first visit, then on a branched one in the second, and I might be completely overthinking it here, but I was thinking:
    Couldnt technically the sacred timeline be a conversion of the branched one Ravonna made when she dropped the book, in which she creates a paradox that ensures Timely is the variant who ends up as He Who Remain? Do we know for sure whether the sacred timeline was the first original timeline? Isn’t it just the timeline where the winner of the Kang war was from? Because if that’s the case then He Who Remains could most certainly have overthrown another Kang variant and inserted his own timeline (the branched one Ravonna made) as the sacred one and further creating said paradox to make sure he always stays in power. Which makes my head spin.
    Ms Minutes’s secret might be that Kang found and kidnapped Ravonna from a timeline where she was another Kang variant’s teacher and trapped her as a puppet in his eternal paradox. Or she might also be a female Kang variant that He Who Remains grew fond off the same way Loki did towards Sylvie and therefore kept her around.
    Either way VERY interesting season so far!

  • @SdeHe-qb9gc
    @SdeHe-qb9gc Před 8 měsíci +3

    Im really hoping we get a deadpool cameo by the end of the season to tease his upcoming movie since it involves the tva.

  • @tlo612
    @tlo612 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Excellent performance by Majors ❤❤❤love it

  • @Bandiccoot
    @Bandiccoot Před 8 měsíci +1

    "He who spoils...Kangster's paradise". Ha! I see what you did there, Paul😅 Good one, mate👏🏾

  • @MrCorey213
    @MrCorey213 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think the “throughput multiplier” is the key to saving the TVA while also keeping the alternate timelines.

  • @TimeKeeperBris
    @TimeKeeperBris Před 8 měsíci +65

    I’m interested in Miss Minutes’ desire for a human body, could we see this happen this season?

    • @piss7672
      @piss7672 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Ikr it's kinda interesting that she wants a body and says she loves him, I wonder if this will build and she will become the main antagonist of the season or it will be put under the rug or something else

    • @saipelekima5675
      @saipelekima5675 Před 8 měsíci +17

      Gave me Vision vibes

    • @kajronable
      @kajronable Před 8 měsíci +11

      Ravona = ms minute

    • @TimeKeeperBris
      @TimeKeeperBris Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@kajronable I really want to like this one, but miss minutes said herself that she was an Ai made for chess, then given autonomy. Unless she’s lying…

    • @JayOwinFull
      @JayOwinFull Před 8 měsíci +21

      Makes me think the robot detecting machines that melt you from the inside out were to prevent a robot ms minutes from physically entering tva

  • @kbonics25
    @kbonics25 Před 8 měsíci

    Loki is a gift that keeps on giving!!

  • @literallyjosh
    @literallyjosh Před 8 měsíci +1

    Knowing what we know about the 'Sacred Timeline', its a pathway curved out for time to follow to prevent the possibility any Kang Varient other than Victor Timely, who will become He Who Remains to be created. This is why they called him the "He Who Remains Varient", firstly, because they don't know he actually becomes He Who Remains, but secondly because he actually is a variation from the Original Kang the Conqueror we saw in Quantumania who was actually called Nathaniel Richards and was probably from the 31st Century.
    Victor Timely, in my opinion, is probably a "What If Kang was born in the 1800s rather than the 31st Century" a variation of the original Kang called Nathaniel Richards.
    Thats my theory anyway.

  • @alexanderdumas-
    @alexanderdumas- Před 8 měsíci +9

    Even if the TVA exploded couldn’t Loki timeslip and do something to restore it in the past? I’m assuming we will see the destruction of the TVA and Loki passing on information to OB in the past to save them all. Thus fulfilling the Loki ragnorak mythos of the ending of everything leading to a new beginning, and Ouroboros being the snake eating it’s own tail being a metaphor for the same thing.

    • @PermanentHigh
      @PermanentHigh Před 8 měsíci

      The TVA is outside of time, and they wouldn't be able to time jump to a past TVA if it gets destroyed

    • @alexanderdumas-
      @alexanderdumas- Před 8 měsíci

      @@PermanentHigh lmao we just saw Loki jump to a future destroyed TVA, and then time skip to its past where he then changed his present. Did you watch the first two episodes where they proved Time does exist at the TVA???

  •  Před 8 měsíci +16

    I'm a bit confused tho, Ravonna gave the TVA book to a Victor in the Sacred Timeline and then she met again with him in a branched timeline?! Or the one she met is just a bait so the one from the Sacred Timeline can become He Who Remains?
    On another note, what the heck happened to Miss Minutes?! 😅

    • @jamesrobert9137
      @jamesrobert9137 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Maybe giving him the book caused the timeline to branch

    • @elisandroku
      @elisandroku Před 8 měsíci +6

      giving him the book was a nexus event and created branch timeline

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@jamesrobert9137yep.

    • @juselara02
      @juselara02 Před 8 měsíci

      That would mean that "Our" Kang variant is Victor Timely. If he becomes HWR is yet to be discovered.
      Ravonna giving him the book created a branch (That was conveniently not pruned because the TVA is in the mud right now... interesting. Food for thought), but I dont think this was THE creation of all Kangvariants, because that would imply that Victory Timely is not only the Kang for our universe but also the Original one, which would contradict the story about the original being a Scientific from 31st century.

    • @linuslongayan7649
      @linuslongayan7649 Před 8 měsíci

      She gave it from the PAST and met him in the FUTURE

  • @nathannone8319
    @nathannone8319 Před 8 měsíci

    The drumroll to Theory Time is where you got my like 😂 so good

  • @rick6083
    @rick6083 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Such a good episode

  • @theolharris
    @theolharris Před 8 měsíci +4

    Loki is scared of him because the last time he saw him he was He Who Remains