Cadillac's Stunning New Lyriq EV - Autoline After Hours 576
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- čas přidán 20. 10. 2021
- GUESTS:
Brian Smith, Director, Cadillac Exterior Design
Tristan Murphy, Manager, Cadillac Interior Design
TOPICS:
03:45 Cadillac Lyriq
32:52 Audi A3/S3
34:11 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
36:03 Mercedes S-Class
38:00 Genesis G70
41:12 Honda Civic
43:38 Ford Bronco
45:51 Genesis GV70
47:56 Hyundai Tucson
49:36 Jeep Grand Cherokee
52:09 Wagoneer/ Grand Wagoneer
53:46 Nissan Pathfinder
55:37 Kia Carnival
57:20 VW ID.4
1:00:45 Nissan Frontier
1:02:10 Toyota Tundra
1:04:24 Ford Maverick
1:06:08 Hyundai Santa Cruz
1:08:04 Hummer EV Pickup
1:10:20 Rivian R1T
PANEL:
Henry Payne, The Detroit News
Gary Vasilash, on Automotive
John McElroy, Autoline.tv - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I LOVE the look of the Cadillac Lyric.
whooptee-doo ... it's always about how it looks when it's a hunk of garbage ...
Would Bob Lutz come back and talk about what he got right and what he got wrong and now with hind site where he sees things going. Sandy Muntro would add a lot - but might be too many/much for a single show.
Could bob lutz take the blow to his ego?
I would have hoped that they could discuss Cadillac and GM from an "EV Crushing Standpoint" ...
The statement from Brian Smith about the V-Series not going anywhere and continuing with EV Cadillacs is what I've been hoping for! Gonna be very exciting to see what Cadillac and GM do with their performance EVs in the future. GM has some quick times at tracks around the world and their chassis engineers are world class and that will give them a big advantage with these new platforms.
Car and Driver just reviewed the CT5-V and gave it a perfect score on chassis, suspension, steering feel, brakes, and overall driving feel, it beat out the more expensive Audi A7, and BMW M5 competition . Look up the article on their site...
Great show today.
Great interview! More design/er please (:
Can’t wait to see Munro open this thing up and pull aside the curtain. We’ll see how much Cadillac has started from ‘clean slate’ and how much is parts bin junk underneath. My expectation is they have not taken full advantage of what a new EV architecture allows for.. we’ll see. Then we need to see how well they build a computer on wheels.. and how much is typical Detroit sub contracting parts that don’t talk to each other and leads to a crap software/ UI experience
I just want to know what it weighs.
I see that Cadillac only sold 22.5k vehicles in Q3. That's behind Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Acura and Volvo. Even Mitsubishi, outsold Cadillac. That's an amazing fall from being the number 1 luxury brand just 20 or so years ago. I think the Cadillac name is damaged goods and might never come back.
Escalade is one of the most profitable vehicles of any manufacturer and they have a loyal following. Cadillac is in a transition right now, give it 5 years and we'll have a better idea on how the brand is doing. For the time being GM is perfectly fine with that brand not even turning a profit, their other brands are highly profitable and Cadillac will continue to be the test bed of innovation for GM.
The advancements in technology at GM usually go into production in Cadillacs first and then head into their other brands in the following years. I don't see that system changing anytime soon.
@@OneNationUnderGod. I think they said the same thing over 15 year ago, and 10 years ago. I'm sure You must be right. Just 5 years more like you said. They know what their doing. Keep beating that Dead horse.
@@OneNationUnderGod. Remember the Cadillac ELR, it was off of a Chevrolet Volt? ELR was double the price and has a weaker battery inside it after the initial year since the Volt went to a bigger battery size but Cadillac ELR stay with the original battery!
@@paulstewartcrane I'm confused are you still talking about Cadillac or have you switched over to Tesla? How's that Semi and Roadster 2 coming along that are both multiple years behind schedule? The Cybertruck is about to join the multiple years behind schedule list for new Tesla vehicles too! Tesla has been saying for years their gonna do this and their gonna do that but they never seem to meet those goals. I almost forgot about the solar roof and look at what a power wall costs these days compared to a couple years ago, they just keep going up! So much for economies of scale that would make Tesla products affordable like they promised many years ago.
@@OneNationUnderGod. I thought the Topic of the show was Cadillac. So yes Cadillac. The show can't bite the hand that feeds it. Now can they ? Guests won't come back let alone companies .
The government just passed the infrastructure bill on Nov. 6th 2021 So that means I can get the 2023 Cadillac Lyriq for under $47,500 and that a Great Deal! This will turn around GM! I have my order in.
Cadillac extended Riding to be continued.
Gary, Rivian has been working on the R1T for the last 12, yes Twelve years. It should look good. But, where are the public owners and where are the videos from the public.
Where are the towing test - trips from customers.
Mostly all wrong... Rivian Started work on R1T in 2016, prior to that they were working on a sports car. Customer deliveries just started, posts all over twitter this weekend. Remember Rivian is launching 3 high production vehicles all at once, no other startup has done that (R1T, R1S, and Amazon Van).
@@dmitchellhomes Don't agree at all. The Amazon Van has already been out a few months in very low volume.
The R1T has ONLY been released to employees and investors and they are NOT posting videos and had to sign a NDA.
No one has done a towing test or even real world range test or DC fast charging test.
If you have any links please send. I'm pulling for them. But they need to get vehicles out to the public and fast!
@@davidws5439 You don't have to agree, but those are the facts. Rivian is smart to ramp the sales slowly, and make sure things are working smoothly, before increasing production rate. Remember Tesla launched Model 3 in July 2017, but did not sell to a real customer until January 2018, and only built hundreds of Model 3's in the first 6 months of production. You are nothing more then a troll that is trying to crap on Rivian... Get a life... Amazon Van low volume? Haha! Its a 100K order, with options for 500K more over 10 years. If you knew anything about companies or business you would realize Rivian is in their quiet period prior to IPO, they cannot say or do anything materiel to the valuation of the stock.
34:50 The personality and visceral emotion of ICE cars comes from Henry's past experiences and it's completely subjective in nature. Our brain's stimulus that comes from speed and thrill of driving a good car also brings these false connections with how the cars sounds or how it looks from the inside or how it vibrates your body etc. The actual thrill comes from g-forces that your brain and body experience on your first ride in any of those amazing cars, and it has no objective connection with sound etc. New generation of drivers will not make such subjective attribution because they will be able to experience better g-forces from EVs and the subjective attribution will be made to quietness, smoothness and simplicity. Times They're a Changin.
A complete article about GM's new, but not available for 5 years PimpMobile?
Outsanding General Motorless, granny needs a new station wagon.
I think the movement to EVs May save Cadillac. They had a few performance cars but the customer was confused as to who or what Cadillac was. A least this is an all new definition of what Cadillac is. They keep talking about performance but Cadillac was always about Luxury.
Cadillac's 2016 ELR was neither fast or went far. It was quite expensive! It was a hybrid EV.
Cadillac is working on a hand-built, ultra luxury, flagship EV sedan called the CELESTIQ. The Cadillac CELESTIQ should help remember what Cadillac became famous for - long, low, wide, big, luxurious sedans. It’s a throwback to Cadillac’s heyday. This car will be entirely focused on luxury and will be the image for the Cadillac brand.
@@justinsmith2598 Think that will be a nice addition. Know SUVs are king but sedans still the nicest designs. You can tell that as most show models are still sedans. I hope this move to EVs will be a turning point for Cadillac and a way to bring back their luxury position from the past.
@@johnkinsfather64 The CELESTIQ will compete with Bentley & Rolls Royce. The CELESTIQ will have limited production, 500/yr. Each CELESTIQ will be hand-built at the GM Tech Center in Michigan to the personal specifications of each customer order. EVERY interior touch point is 100% customized. Cadillac could be the Rolls Royce of EVs.
@@Agent77X Cadillac is what Lexus is not today. Cadillac offers driving experience and performance to match in their sedans as you can see the floor mopping in comparison test with the CT4 and CT5.
The ELR was using half of a decade old Voltec technology at the end.
The front and sides are fine, not what I would consider beautiful but not offensive. The back looks like it started out ok but then that light rope was draped over it like a snake. Even the appearance of tail fins like the SRX would have been better than that.
I'd buy a Lyric if I could easily de-badge it. I'm just not a Cadillac person. What is the average age of Cadillac owners? I'm pretty sure it goes up every year. Otherwise, I'm sold on the Ultium battery systems, but could not feel comfortably driving a Cadillac.
VW ID.4 great for rental & taxi companies ? let us see if they buy.
PS - GREAT show Autoline.
Blinged-up rear end! Agree
Why don't you show the cars that you talk about? Just a picture, from one to next. Same when guest talk about their cars.???
Was thinking the exact same thing !
Nissan tossed out Ghosn cheap cvt with him.
I love watching Gary shush the others like a school chaperone.
The major problem here is that everyone is still talking about looks and interior. Which makes some sense because you are interviewing the exterior and interior people. The problem is that this is an EV. What drives buyers to an EV? It isn't interior and exterior. It is Efficiency, Range, Batteries, Integration of what gets an EV to go (drivetrain), and then user experience (software). The Jaguar I-pace is a beautiful and comfortable EV. It sells like garbage. It's a crappy EV. Where is the discussion about the innovation in the motor and battery pack? What makes Ultium better? Where is the discussion of the supply chain? How about a charging network?
Such softball questions ! I guess you have to go soft to have the guests. John was alot better on the old P.B.S. days.
Names, luxury, performance (electric motors obvious winner) volume the key, right? and batteries. These guys still don't seem to get it. just building on the past ... short sides, right?? lights will make all the difference. /s autonomous - seem clueless.
Rivian truck sounds like it has a nice drive quality, but how do we know it's better than what Tesla will come out with? Unless Gary got to drive it and he's not letting on
All 3 panelists have driven the R1T, and the HummerEV, and Henry Payne is a long time Tesla owner.
@@dmitchellhomes understood but Gary made it seem as he thought the Tesla wouldn't drive like a truck.
All flash and no tech.Ive noticed that the more cute lights an ev has the more mediocre the tech is. Come up with something thats at least in the ball park of the Plaid and ill be impressed. A hundred year old company should have engineered carbon wrap rotors instead of one that less than 20 yrs old.
GM has introduced new technology with the Cadillac brand before, look at magnetic ride control that was invented by GM and used on Cadillacs first. Those shocks completely changed performance handling and they've gone into off-road applications and luxury vehicles too.
The Lyriq isn't meant to compete with a Plaid Model S, it's an affordable luxury crossover and that's a perfect market to get into with an EV because those buyers can afford the higher cost of an EV.
Won't be long and multiple manufacturers will have EV pickups on the market and Tesla will still be delaying the Cybertruck. So how far ahead is Tesla again?
Carbon wrapped rotors sound expensive and not needed, Hummer makes the same power with 3 motors and costs less. Let's chain them together and see which one pulls harder?
@@dmitchellhomes Dude you not going to want cyber-truck with plaid motors and 4680 batteries in a tug of war with that huge ancient LG and Yes i said LG battery! GM can give a cute name if they want to.its still an old pouch module design. 350 mi yeah right.
@@dclpgh Well, i’ve never seen a cyber truck with 4680 batteries, and plaid motors, because none have ever been built. The original concept had a battery pack and motors right out of a model X. Recent Plaid tear downs have shown that the plaid motors cases and inverters, are right out of the performance model 3. As a matter of fact, the circuit boards inside the inverters, said model 3 on them.
@@dmitchellhomes Yeah right right out of a model 3. no changes or nothing.Think for a minute dude. If they were motors straight out of a model 3s would be doing 165 in in the traps at the race track! They are derived from the model 3 motors, may be the same can but the soup is a different flavor my man! The motors in the semi are derived from the model 3 also. Just goes to show what Tesla can do with just one design. Woop everything at the track with the plaid, pull tons of freight with the semi,
pull the bumper off the hummer with the cyber truck! Bad ass little motor wouldn't you say?
The Lyric is beautiful in its detailing, but the Ciel or the Sixteen concepts were gorgeous as a whole. Cadillac is a status symbol, a STATEMENT piece of automotive art, as always was up till the 1990s. These designers dont appreciate Cadillac's heritage..... just like Lincoln has generally lost track of its heritage and history. Quiet quality. isolation, luxury interior appointments, and rolling smoothness is what American and Chinese luxury buyers want - and STATEMENT distinctive Cadillac styling. The highways are far too crowded and in poor repair..... sanctuary is a Lincoln theme that should resonant deeply with Cadillac. Chasing the Germans was foolish - Lexus and Genesis stole Cadillac's market.
I agree with you … and I really think Cadillac should be moved up market to compete with Bentley and Porsche … and let Buick / Avenir fill the Cadillac space
@@christopherstreet2214 Move Cadillac up market. Cadillac needs to learn how to walk before it can run. They have gone off in many different directions over years. They introduced many vehicles over the years that never lived up to the hype. Hopefully their EV strategy pays off.
I really like the ELR! To bad nobody brought it!
Cadillac is working on a hand-built, ultra luxury, flagship EV sedan called the CELESTIQ. The Cadillac CELESTIQ should help remember what Cadillac became famous for - long, low, wide, big, luxurious sedans. It’s a throwback to Cadillac’s heyday.
Nah… you are way better of getting a Tesla model Y👍🇳🇴
I want Cadillac to succeed. I don't want a Tesla.
Ahh yes the Cadillac Brah-GUM, my favorite Cadillac... 🤦♂️
Nothing says luxury like plastic.
Does anyone care about this car? i don't
If you don't care about Cadillac on Ultium EV platform maybe a Acura on the same would interest you?
Not sure if your question was legit, but yes…I care about this car. Looks like a good American made luxury option.
cANNOT BUY/DRIVE IT , SUCH bs.
Tesla does have a physical volume knob. They are bragging about “pushing the boundaries” by using flush door handles and lowering the roofline in 2021?
These guys are a joke! 🤦♂️