Israel and Palestine Compared
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- Mr. Beat compares and contrasts Israel and Palestine.
Produced by Matt Beat. Additional footage by Sam Aronow and the mother of @beacebrocess.
Thanks to @beacebrocess for collaborating with me and looking over my script. Check out his video here: • Is the Gaza Strip Occu...
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It’s kinda scary how Mr.Beat made this video EXACTLY one year before Hamas attacked
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Hamas attack 😅 what about the many years they attacked Palestine
Isreal wants peace, You have been disillusioned, Don't buy into propaganda.@@bachelorgamer8001
@@bachelorgamer8001
Hamas ≠ Palestine
@@rimfire8217Exactly
Hats off to the bravery of Mr.Beat for even considering covering this
WTF are you doing here?
I like Wii Sports Resort
Thank you. I definitely hesitated to make it....for like 4 years lol
@@iammrbeat everyone gonna be mad at you😂
Why?
As an Egyptian, I would like to thank you for using the historically accurate flags of my country, not everyone can get these details right.
That's a very bola way to call him a huge NEEEEERD!
Gg
Yasser organized the Intifadas before the attacks on Aza (Gaza)
He did good job, not biased
And I'm Israeli jew.
I was happy to see the OG Syrian flag as well 😌
You know a conflict is difficult when you have to go through basically the entirety of world history just to explain the backstory
Two nations wanting the same land.
It's not special. The only reason that this seems that way is because of political interests around the conflict,
and because it's not resolved in an era where most of these conflicts are history.
Take Alsace-Lorraine for example.
A region in Germany/France.
The locals just want to live in peace, wherever they are granted rights and living standards, they are half German and half French anyways! (as far as I know, bare with me for the example).
But France and Germany are not at war or conflict so nobody talks about the two nations both wanting the Alsace-Lorraine. France has it now. A German wants to go there - He can because of the EU passport/citizenship, the French and Germans stopped fighting and now this land is accessible for both nations, why not?
Could Arabs and Hebrews just share the holy land? Absolutely yes. Will they? as long as hatred is taught, no.
I listened to a person who made a documentary about her friends who lived surrounding Gaza. Those people said there could be life together with Palestinians, they said if they were doctors they would voluntarily cure Gaza citizens for nothing in exchange but the resolving of the conflict. They were murdered on October 7th, non-combatants.
It's about education. Two children want the same sandbox, they could share or they could fight and no one can have fun in it - but we grow up and learn to share.
It's really that simple.
@@dan-us6nkwow, thank you for these beautiful words. They really moved me. Even though I don't have any connection to these lands, the conflict has felt very close to my heart. To see people fighting over something they could so easy share in peace if only they just did so. To me it feels like this conflict will never end until one side eradicates the other, which is such a gruesome and grim vision of the future. I want all these people to live. I want them to just. stop. fighting. Revenge is such an ugly thing, it just feeds on itself in a never ending cycle.
It isn't as simple as two nations wanting the same land, it is the complexity of a nation being given to another people right after the second world war; a people who had not been involved in the persecuation of the Jews being forced to give up their land to make a safe haven for the Jews of Europe. One major problem, that should be obvious by now: You don't make friends by stealing another persons stuff. And now with 75+ years of nonstop occupation and apartheid being brought upon the palestianians, resistance towards oppression was inveitable. This is not to justify any acts committed, it is to state the obvious that now with the Gaza genocide happening, another act of genocide is being brought upon the people of the West Bank, where bedouins get killed and villages set ablaze. So is it a case of two nations wanting the same land or a case of European neo-colonialism once again screwing up another region of the world like it did to South Africa? @@dan-us6nk
@@dan-us6nki don't disagree, but the fact that the two sides have been perpetually fighting non-stop for such an ungodly amount of time is notable, if not particularly special.
Your all a little bit wrong this conflict isn’t “difficult” or complicated. And it’s not as simple as a fight for holy land. This is quite literally a fight for cultural and ethnic survival between Muslim and Christian Palestinians against a occupational apartheid fascist regime. Under the guise of “democracy and secularism”. 🤦♂️
Excellent analysis overall. One point to add was the effects of 1973 Yom Kippur War with Syria and Egypt. Israel was caught flat-footed, lost territory early in the war, and suffered heavy casualties. And although Israel managed to win the war, Egypt gained the necessary leverage to bargain for the return of the Sinai peninsula during the 1978 Camp David Accords.
Israel was caught “flat-footed” because the U.S. and Britain told them NOT to attack, they knew the war was coming, the King of Jordan warned Golda Meier, but she could not do anything otherwise they would lose western support.
Also, Egypt did not get any bargaining rights, the U.S. pressured Israel to give back Sinai in exchange for peace, Israel had clear plans to build urban settlements in the Sinai with as much as 200.000 people, but the idea of peace with arabs and that extending to other countries was a better deal to Israel.
actually no. Israel wanted to give back Sinai and Gaza for peace with Egypt and Egypt refused to take back Gaza and the people there. Gaza still has a southern border with Egypt, which is closed by massive Egyptian fortifications and military. beyond that border is uninhabited desert - but Egypt wont open their border to gazans even to allow a refugee exodus from the war with Hamas. Wonder why.
There was a lot of misinformation here, but at least nothing was an objective lie.
@@JoshuaFinancialPLegypt not obligated to take them ppl in when they have land its just being stolen and bombed to damnation
In the yom kipur war while isreal was caught off guard and did suffer "heavy" by isreal standards casualties, the arab countries suffered almost 4 time more and egypt lost the sinai peninsula and isreal crossed the suez twords the end of the war with one division ill give u that
You know you did something right when both Israelis and Palestinians are saying you did a good job on this video.
@@noahnofal9998 He did mention that due to israeli military capability, a lot of palestinian died. But didn't go into detail, probably to not offend his collab partner lol
Yup, am from israel, I think he did an amazing job. no hate is spread and im happy
War is supposed to be fair? Was it fair in 1929 Hebron? Ridiculous argument.
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Finally, an apolitical topic.
ikr?
This is somehow less controversial than the Maryland v.s. Virginia episode.
@@malldvd Maryland.
@@malldvd Marylander here
@@iammrbeat 😂❤
of course this video gets recommended to me now of all times
Exactly
Before it was 18 and over only
"Once you get out of Tel Aviv it gets much cheaper in israel"
Let's put that into perspective Mr. Beat. The prices in a small town in the north are equivalent to prices in London for example. It's just that Tel Aviv is sooo ridiculously expensive that this difference in prices (going down to London level expensive) is felt.
israel is expensive as singapour and swiss. actually young families are emmegrating out of the country due to expensive life. rent\house prices are rediculus all over israel and supermarket prices a super rediculus. 5-7$ for normal bread... macdonald meal is 16-25$ !!!!
@his-story
I did not say tel aviv was a small town in the north. I meant that a small town in the north of israel has the same prices as London. And btw, Tel aviv has 450k population, the metropolitan area has 10X that.(almost 4.5 Million)
@his-story funny you mention gush dan since even though we all call it gush dan nobody reallllly knows which cities are in it. But yes it's somewhere between the inner and outer ring depending on who you ask.
חג שמח :)))
Israel is pretty cheap in the Negev tho
Well Israel is expensive well it's because land is small and there's not enough arable land to support a lot of people that's why they import food
Mr. Beat was a history teacher at the middle school i attended. Pleasantly surprised he found his way to my recommended!
I bet he really touched the kids in his class...
That's awesome!
Damn your lucky
@@ThePikminCaptain unfortunately though I never had him myself, my older brother did and I heard nothing but good things!
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I am from Indiana & my father was of Irish ancestry. I couldn't help but notice that when you combine Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland they have almost exactly the same area and population as Indiana. Because of this a video comparing them would be interesting
why dont u make it?
Watching this a year later just to see how its aged... Love you Matt
Hats off to you Matt, it takes a brave CZcamsr to talk about the dispute between Israel and Palestine. Paul, who runs the Channel Geography Now, prefixed his video on it by saying, "no matter what I say, there's every chance I'll make at least someone mad,"
I think as ever, you did a great job with it :)
Thanks man! Well I certainly tried as well. Yes, people will be mad. Gotta love those humans.
Yeah I was curious how other CZcamsrs may have influenced this video. Like showing what can be said and stick around on this platform. I'm sure some have had videos taken down and then the owner goes to Reddit or wherever to discuss their censorship. I doubt Katie Halper had much influence on this particular video but I've heard her video is quite in depth regarding the control and actions of the Israeli Gov. I think I'll go watch every video sometime just to get the kind of "PC" story drilled in my head.
HEY! Which Matt are you referring to? Matt Baker of UsefulCharts or Mr. Beat?
Is his name Matt Beat
its not a brave thing to shill for israel. its called obeisance.
Thanks for the collab!!!!
It was an honor to collaborate with you. I learn a lot from watching your videos!
I just saw your channel! I have a 6 year old who's obsessed with geography and a 12 year old who loves drawing , your channel is fantastic! Just subscribed!
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Thanks @Mr Beat, my kids know about the world and about history more than their teachers. School times could be even better if I had a professor like @Mr Beat. Hope that kids out there can find someone like you, @Mr Beat; to teach and give some fun. Thanks for all the videos 🎈
Excellent video, Mr. Beat; Just a small correction: Israel doesn't "militarily" occupy the Golan, it just occupies it. A military occupation would be like in the West Bank, where military law is set in place, rather than civil law. This difference is because, unlike the West Bank, Israel annexed the Golan. This annexation wasn't recognized at all by other countries, however because of the annexation, citizenship was given and civil law takes place there like with the rest of israel
That's because Israel expelled all the non-Jewish civilians in the Golan Heights. Murdered them, expelled them, eradicated them. Then Israel built Jewish only settlements in Golan Heights.
These are petty nuances. Israel's presence in both the Golan and the West Bank is EQUALLY illegal
The United States did recently recognize the Golan Heights as part of Israel. Other countries have not.
@@danielgrossman5243 Obviously other countries have not recognised Golan Heights as part of Israel because they are all anti-Semitic! Israel, a fiefdom of sheer arrogance, theft, mischief, deception, hoodwinking, treacherous, greedy, unscrupulous, sneaky, trickery, haughtiness.
There were way more errors in this video than that. It is very one sided favoring the Palistinians.
While it is a very controversial comparison, it's an important one to view. Thanks, Beat.
Thank you
Cowing down to pressure is not what a historian does. If someone is offended by facts, it says more about them than it does the commentator.
@@sloshed-rat Because everything you like is "facts", and anyone who disagrees is merely "offended"... 🚽
@@fun_ghoul
Well, you DO sound pretty offended, my guy.
@@sloshed-rat Duh-bling down on your ignorance, I see. You might be embarrassed if you were actually Jewish...
5:13
The name Palestine comes from the Philistines - a tribe from the "sea people", probably from Mycenaean Greece who invaded and setteled at the southern coast of Cannan, during the bronze age collapse.
The name most likely comes from the etymological root "Invader" in Cannanite languages.
The most famous if them all is Goliath, from the story of "David and Goliath".
The Greeks begun to refer to the entire area of Cannan after them - Philistia. And the name survived also after the extinction of the Philistines at the 8 century BC when the Assyrian empire conqured it.
After one of the Jewish revolts against Rome - as Mr. Beat mentioned, the area was renamed by it's Latinized Greek name - Palestina. (Like almost every other thing the Romans did with Greek culture...)
Thanks for the additional information!
I mean, philistine is kinda the same as the Hebrew word “Poleshtim” which means invaders. Think I pretty much just said the same thing you did but just checking.
@@dibsdibs3495
You probably mean "Polshim" - means "invaders"
No, in Hebrew Palestinians is the same name as in Arabic (but with different suffixes) - "Faleftin".
Arabic - Falestiniun
Hebrew - Falestinim
@@dibsdibs3495 hebrew is a relative of the canaanite languages, so it makes sense the words would be cognates.
I think you're downplaying how pissed off Rome was at Israel. To the Roman line of thinking shut up and pay your taxes was entirely fair. Then Israelites revolted and put the entire empire at risk. So Rome came down with a vengeance.
Just a little point on 28:20
Hamas does not recognise Israel as a legitimate state since neither does Israel recognise Hamas as the legitimate governing entity of Gaza. but as far back as 2010, the leader of the political wing of Hamas has stated in a couple of interviews that "Although our primary means of achieving our goal [Establishing a unified state of Palestine with the borders of the 1947 partition plan with themselves as a legitimate political party] are through violent resistence, should Israel choose to settle the matter diplomatically, we do see recognising their legitimicy as a state [Borders being those of the 1947 partition plan] as an reasonable deal"
Israel has repeatedly offered peace though
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There two two Israeli Prime Ministers who actually stood for peace. The second ever PM who didn't have much of a chance to promote peace due to his short term in office, and Yitzhak Rabin who pursued peace til his last breath, but he was assassinated by Zionist extremists who proclaimed that they killed him for "Furthering the Prospects of a Palestinian state"
Every other Israeli PM since the inception of Hamas has bragged about sabotaging every peace accords between Israel and Palestine.
@@joshuashaw2923palestine has.
israel proposes the peace
@@joshuashaw2923no they don't, the thing they fear the most is a 2 state solution, if you can't understand that, then you don't understand zionism and its end goals (hint after they finish with palestine they are still going to want more land)
@@joshuashaw2923 both sides have offered peace, IIRC. the thing is, when you offer peace, you are offering peace with specific conditions. peace offerings have been rejected, reasonably or not, due to those conditions.
I hope people see this now after the current conflict. Thank you for sharing the objective history of the land and involving both a Palestinian American and an Israeli in your editing process. Well done.
Hey, Mr. Beat; thanks for reaching out to Beacebrocess and me for input on this video and for using some of my footage. I'm really happy with how this turned out and I'm glad to have met Beacebrocess in the process.
You too buddy 👍
Thanks for the help writing the script and the footage! Sorry I didn't use as much of the footage you sent me, but I will save it for that Tel Aviv-Jerusalem video I make in four years! :)
3 CZcamsrs I watch in the same thread???? All of you are my beloved, and Mr. Beat, you got balls for doing this
Beace AND Sam Aronow? I remember suggesting this collab along with a few others a while ago. You’re two of my faves and I really hope you keep collaborating in the future.
These three guys together?!... no way! Today is a good day.
Im not even kidding, I watch Mr. Beat’s videos for entertainment whilst learning something at the same time. Mr Beat is great at making learning fun. Great personality.
Thanks for the content Mr. Beat!
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Aw thank you!
Hes very underrated too.
@@iammrbeat Hey Mr. Beat nice video, however while you mention that ever since the Romans called Israel, "Palestine", it does not mean that the group who refer to themselves today as palestinians, were in control of the land simply due to the name given by the Romans. In fact when the Romans called the land of Israel, "Palestine"(which was based on the Aegean Greeks"Phillstines"), Islam was not even around until 7 centuries later! The fact that you say all those palestinians before 1948 lived in Israel and grouped together to fight Israel, gives the impression that it was an Arab Palestinian land before, which it never was. There was never a group of Arabs known as the palestinians (of today), they were simply Arabs from the surrounding countries who lived there aside for the Muslim occupiers of the land such as the Turks etc. Also Jews lived in Israel throughout the years as well, of course it was a minority because they were getting killed all over the world including in Israel by the occupying nations.
The land was called Palestine so anyone who lived there before 1948 was known as palestinian but it was not an identity of a nation, it was simply a technicality which means Jews were also called palestinians due to living in the land under that name. Palestinians as we know today formed in 1967 by Arafat who had the idea to adopt the false name of the land given by the Romans which stuck until 1948 to give the impression that it was always their land. You never told us when the "palestinians'' declared independence of the land and who their rulers were, because it never happened. If anything it was a Jewish land for thousands of years, and then reclaimed in 1948 through war. So by all accounts its a Jewish land. Just because their were many occupiers of the land doesnt mean it changed anything, those occupiers never declared it as their land they already had a land of their own. Name one Arab/Palestinian king who had sovereignty over a land called Palestine. Can You?
P.S. Also when Babylon and Rome invaded, Jews didnt willingly leave at all, they fought till the death and those who left were forced to leave, captured and taken into Exile. If you look at Jewish prayers from those times (which Jews still have in the existing prayer books), all the prayers were about returning to Jerusalem and the Rebuilding of the Temple to serve G-D. They wanted to return to Israel but could not.
@@madcatter1 bro israel isn't real.
You can make stuff up but nobody will believe you😂
@@madcatter1 Palestine was just as legitimate as a country as every other Arab country that was born after the death of the Ottoman Empire.
None of the Arab states had a national identity.
I’m not anti Israel, but palestine isn’t a special case for having very little historical claim and national
Identity in the region
Good job on covering and comparing the two. I'm sure this comparison video took a LOT more time to research and plan to make sure you weren't cause a diplomatic crisis. Well done. I learned a lot myself in fact.
The value of this video may surpass any other history (or in even broader terms 'educational') video on CZcams and has made the Israeli Palestine conflict infinitely more understandable to me. Thankyou!
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Great synopsis of the history in that area. I've often wondered about the specifics as to how it got to where they are today. It's so jam-packed with information that I may have to watch a few more times.
Keep up the great work! 👍
I appreciate the kind words, Susan!
@@iammrbeat Great summary... I forgot the details, but didn't the Mongols make it that far west during the 13th or 14th century? Basically, right up to the Red Sea... Not that they were very friendly when establishing their empire... But thought that their reach went that far right around the time when they were able to establish one of the largest contiguous empires; shortly before the Ming Dynasty came to power and they were under attack from multiple directions.
Speaking of which, not sure if you venture into the religious topics... But, was always curious as to the extent of Confucianism, if any, with the dominate monotheistic religions as I noticed some common stories when I was studying in China - but never pursued the matter.
All approved by the ADL
Well, I think we know why we’re all here
Ottoman Empire Turkish era was the most peaceful time for those lands comparing any other timelines. All major religions were able to live in an harmony. I wish we have that peace back in 21st century...
The Turks accepted no one. They tolerated all, so long as they lived under tyranny, and were willing to pay special taxes if they were non-Turk, which sometimes included their very children. The Ottomans were dope, but let's not get too excited here.
@KenanErol I wouldn’t say it was the most peaceful ottomans, it was still good. But I think whenever it was under Saladin or Caliph Umar is when it was most peaceful.
When the holy land was an undeveloped, swampy middle-of-nowhere with a tiny population.
@Svenskanorden1that’s incorrect. They sided with the British because the young Turk revolution which over through the sultan and made more of a mess out of the empire, which had been in decline. The British manipulated, lied, and pressured for the people to rise up, then stabbed them in the back. Due to Britain’s heavy racist motivation to get rid of the Jewish refugees after WWII, they saw the perfect opportunity to “cleanse themselves” of the “Jewish problem” and make life better for the Jews.
European Zionism was founded in antisemitism and racism, and it’s still a core of the belief today. Which explains why Israel is so content with apartheid systems and oppression.
Just a few corrections, the Jews never willingly left due to Babylonian and Roman invasion, they were captured and forced into exile against their will. Also Romans called it palestina based on the small part of Israel where the Phillistines (Aegean Greeks) resided, land of Phillistines. The Romans renamed it as a disgrace to the Jews and to insult them further after destroying Jerusalem.
In neither case were all Jews exiled. For example, we read that Jews were exiled and enslaved after the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD and the area renamed by the Romans to Palestina-Syria. Yet, the Bar Kochba revolt was from 132-135 AD, because enough Jews were left remaining after the 70 AD 'exile'. Jews have had a constant presence in the land for over 3,000 years. Arabs invaded in 636 AD to spread Islam among the Jews and Christians who lived there. Ironically, Jews allied with the Muslims to fight off the Christian Crusades in the 11th and 12th centuries.
@@nohandle558 Plot twist. 😳
Plot twist... I am the direct descendant of Prophet Jonah pbuh Yunis 🕊️🫒 We're Sunni Muslim!
@@nohandle558 no Jews never faught with Muslims on the same side. They were absolutely oppressed. And Muslims wouldn't use Jews in military service.
This video is very biased against Israel. Very sad.
Oh boy, this is going to be a wholesome, friendly, intelligent comments section full of wonderful ideas and opinions.
No matter how many words you clowns put in these throwaway comments, you're just another Zayonest goof saying NOTHING.
That didn’t age well…
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“Uhh actually he was being sarcastic 🤓”
Me: "Damn. This video was posted prior to the attack on October 7th, 2023, I wonder what day it was uploaded..."
*SEES UPLOAD DATE OF OCTOBER 7TH... **_2022_*
MR BEAT YOU DID A WONDERFUL VIDEO ON SUCH A DIFFICULT ISSUE!
A straight comparison between Israel and Palestine couldn't possibly be fair. Israel has a chokehold on all aspects of Palestinian life. Also, most Israelis are blissfully unaware of the suffering their occupation is inflicting on the Palestinian populations in the West Bank and Gaza. They have their peace and don't give a damn about the Palestinians. I have read some accounts of Jews expressing sympathy for the Palestinians only to be reprimanded by their family and friends, who see this is a zero-sum game in which either the Jews survive or the Arabs but NOT both.
For any Gentiles who do not accept and observe the Noahide Code, the Jews are commanded to expel them from the Land of Israel, and they are forbidden by Torah Law to dwell there (whether they are expelled or not).
You know the Palestinians want to eliminate the Jews , right?
a common defense of the IDF's actions in the current war is that "israel has a right to defend itself." this is also a counter to the idea that they are committing a genocide: "israel is not committing genocide, it is only defending itself." the funny thing is that genocides are _often_ perceived by their perpetrators as self-defense, as part of a zero sum game where either 'we' survive or 'they' survive.
@@classicmax1do you know what genocide is?
@@spectrex176 the UN says accusations that israel is committing genocide are at least plausible. do you disagree with the UN about what genocide is?
do you think that mass slaughter of civilians and the destruction of the homes of 1.7 million people, committed by leaders calling for "total annihilation," is not a genocide in progress?
You have helped me realize I want to pursue a History degree, and you're my biggest inspiration. Recently started college. Thank you, Mister Beat, for all you've done.
Yay! I’m on my second year of a history degree and it’s amazibg
@@madelinevlogs5898 Hmph. You like lying for a living? You'll get paid bupkis, unless you really come up with some p**kies like a Conquest, Solzhenitsyn or Kotkin...
@@thotslayer9914 League of Legends! I don't actually play the game, I just thought the character looked cool. I just looked up fox from LOL, haha. Thanks!
@@madelinevlogs5898 I'm glad you're enjoying it!
@@thotslayer9914 I do, why?
I think it’s one thing to wanna establish independence in a place you already live in but zionism often was decided overseas without the native palestinians, therefore not decided by the people to split up.
It was also thought up by antisemitic white supremacists who wanted to get rid of the Jewish refugees “plaguing” society before and after WWII. Israel was founded in racism, and will continue in it.
Excellent job on a very sensitive and important topic!
Thank you! It's relieving to get these nice comments thus far. :)
Nah he's just a westener that had no idea about the conflict reading a bit and saying very simplistic things, when he said Israel takes tax revenue from palestine for example, he said in a joking manner that israel takes the revenue because of "attackers" and forgets to mention palestine's government sponsored various killings of israeli civillians including the famous munich slaughter of Israel's olympic team.
Woah hi, I just watched your new video about the Toltecs lol
when i read this sort of comments i always remember what Burke wrote about flattery.
I saw the title and thought “Don’t Mr. Beat, you still have so much to live for!”
I think you did an amazing job making a more neutral and good balanced video, thank you for talking about something that is rarely covered in good depth
There isno palestine idiot
19:51 "Today, things often are deceptively peaceful in Israel and Palestine." yeah, that aged REAL fast...
It was never peaceful, Palestinians were dying every single damn day getting arrest every damn day for no reason before October 7th
Mr Beat thank you for this, we've learned so much from you in the past year, keep it up!!!!!! Maybe you could do a current conflict explainer video using the game Risk for one of your next videos!!!
> 'explainer'
> hasbara
12:34 You left out one crucial detail. The Arabs rejected this division of land and revolted because that division left a lot of Arabs on the wrong side of that map, automatically losing their homes to Jewish settlers.
And the fact the UN puppet of the west had no right to place jurisdiction on foreign lands.
haha cutie they tragically objected even the theoretical idea of ANY partition of the area - it's facts
@@orrling this isn't theory. It happened. Their land was stolen.
You're a bigot
Not nice to see!
People who deny reality & deny other nations' right to exist are responsible for the global violence we've seen in the past decades against Westerners including Jews all for their ethnic connection to the State of Israel
Thank you for the video, don't understand why it is age restricted. Is the age restriction a youtube decision or something you set?
bro i never comment but wtf why is mr beat actually built. bro gotta beautiful biceps my god. what a goat
this is a quality first comment 👍
24:48 - Those dots around the Hebrew letters are only used by teachers and early students of the language to help them know how to pronounce words. People fluent in Hebrew typically don't use them.
It's also used in religious texts
FYI They're called niqqud and are used for when vowels cannot or should not be implied or assumed, whether by novice readers/speakers or for when there is a religious need for precise pronunciation, such as certain blessings, Torah portions, etc.
I'm not Jewish and do not speak Hebrew or Yiddish so if I'm wrong, please correct me.
@@TheRepublicOfJohn The Torah doesn't contain any vowels, however there are special vowels for the Torah unlike normal Hebrew text. These special vowels are specifically for understanding how to sing the Torah and are pretty complicated.
@@renilol705not in Torah
Appreciate you covering this hope people can keep it civil in the comments
Me too!
I'm just not gonna go very far into the comments
@@AriOrSomething god forbid there should be something critical of mr beat and how he makes 'unbiased' videos
You are pretty brave to take this on and by the looks of it, you did well. I learnt loads here. Thanks for sharing.
At the time of the Balfour Declaration, the Balfour Declaration had no legality. But when the Allies of WWI met in San Remo at the end of the war, they concluded what was to be done with the areas won in the Middle East. They created countries such as Syria, and Iraq. For the area they called the Mandate of Palestine (which originally included Jordan), they decided to use the Balfour Declaration and stating that there was to be a reconstituted Jewish state along ancient borders, and until such time the British were to be in control. These decisions were legally binding, but nonetheless, it went before a vote at the League of Nations (after the East Bank was separated off that became Jordan). Having said that, There are claims that the British and French have made conflicting statements/promises to the residents in the area in an effort to unite them against the Turks during WWI.
The eyes added to the flags at 0:19 make me think to the videos of the French youtuber « Télécrayon » !
He mostly covers geographic topics and does a very qualitative job.
I will check the channel out!
SAM ARONOW is my best youtube source for jewish history, great guy !!! 😀😀
He definitely is
Thank you so much for making this video. It was unbiased (which is hard to find these days) informative and very interesting, moreover I think it’s important to make these kinds of videos so people deeper understand the ongoing conflicts. Let’s hope for peace as soon as possible!!
Palestine is democratic?🥴
Plot twist: didn't end well
As a first generation Palestinian immigrant I’m super happy you made a video on this, it was super well researched and informative and hopefully this will be able to show more than just the surface about the history and disparity in the region. Thanks Mr. Beat!🧡
Get out! We Americans don’t want you here! Go back to Israel! Terrorist go home!
Ya probably should've agreed to the two state solution.
@@Proud_Troll oh how I wish it could have been solved peacefully and I didn’t have to watch my people die, Hamas signed away the lives of so many innocent Palestinians when it attacked, I’m just praying this ends soon
@@InochiScarlet stay safe bro
@@IJustNukedMcDonalds I appreciate the concern but I live in the states rn thankfully
I've been waiting for this all day I am actually from the country of Palestine finally someone talks about my country which is kind of rare because not many people want to get into controversial topics but hey I'm glad someone's talking about my country
Nice to meet you and thanks for being here
Its a shame you waited so long, only for him to get it completely WRONG......But that's what happens when you don't research something properly and only go with what is "Politically" acceptable.
Okay you may get certain thing wrong but at least he had tried once again he mainly talks about history and comparing countries not politics but at least it's interesting that he had a lot of willpower just to make this video
We border Israel Egypt Jordan, he was the first leader Yasser Arafat anything else and our current president is Mohammad Abbas
Didn't you watch the video... palestine was a land where a diverse group of people (muslim christian and jews) lived peacefully since the ottoman empire. The legitimacy of the people living there and the culture isn't questionable.
Israel was founded until much later in 1948 but the world doesn't question it, so why question the legitimacy of Palestine who was "officially" founded around the same time?
Watching the comments 🍿🍿🍿
This has to be the most objective overview of the region and conflict I have ever seen. Kudos to you for managing to walk that line. There is definitely no easy answer, but it's important to put events and history into perspective and humanize all sides, which you've done very well. Thank you!
mr beatr is far from objective where it comes to videos about jews/israel.
what a well-done informative video! loved it, learned a lot. Thank you!
you could read a book and not watch adl/wikipedia 'education'
cant even begin to imagine what this comment section is gonna look like in a few hours💀
So far, it's not that bad
Its an amazing video. If i can add a couple things. Before WW1 ended, the UK promised to establish a land for the jews (as you stated). The british also promised itself it would occupy palestine and jordan and promised france Lebanon and syria (which you hinted at). One thing left out was that Britain ALSO promised the entire land to the Meccan royal family in exchange for support to overthrow the ottomans. This is one reason, I suspect, why the muslim nations were against the UN borders at the time.
Can you back that up? King Faisal approved of the Jewish state at the Paris Peace Conference in the Faisal-Weissman papers. Try again!!
You uploaded this Oct 7 22
The massacre at the music fest that kicked everything off was Oct 7 23. Mad creepy man
Great video, I appreciate channels that give unbiased insight into areas of the world predominantly covered by ideologically aligned media outlets. One small correction though, you said that Israel doesn’t have very big cities, and while this observation is correct if judging by administrative areas, with 460,000 people living within the Tel-Aviv-Yaffo administrative area, the Tel-Aviv metro area is much more populous than that at 3.8 million residents.
The Israeli scale is just different, nobody here refers to גוש דן as the Tel Aviv metropolitan area… Maybe you could include some minor cities within that area, but most other places are considered completely separate cities. So yeah, we don’t have any major big cities like most bigger countries have except for Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
I think it would be interesting to compare a city, New York, to the entire country of Canada seeing as the GDP of the two places are similar.
Go away loser.
Oopsie lol I think you've blundered here at 22:17 saying that the Jordan River "makes up much of the western border of Israel and the West Bank" while you probably meant EASTERN border ;). No biggie! GREAT video with a great account of our history and present, and for once a CZcamsr that CAN tell the world what the map of Israel and the map of PALESTINE actually look like! You've apparently however somehow skipped talking about Jerusalem being de-facto actually TWO cities - East and West (West Jlm is Israel's most populous city, Esat Jlm's kinda big too!), Arab and Israeli respectively, that is how they are effectively recognised by intl. law! :-) Which is a good and constructive approach which both Israelis and Arabs tragically fail to honour, ridiculously united around the claim of "She's all mine" from either respective side of the Green Line. You should add that bit of info I think. It's two cities right here.
And NOOO man Israel's Law of Return is NOT the one that says you have to have-a-Jewish-mother-or-convert to immigrate here (your gaffe at 25:43), that is what the Jewish Orthodoxy rules! :-)) --and not the State, although yep the two are always in an unfortunate convolution together even though no leader admits it... :-D The country's modern Return law rather says that you need any of your grandparents a Jew to be eligible to naturalize here.
Much love!
By staying true to simple facts, you did an excellent job in presenting this hot subject matter.
Good job!!!
Great coverage on a difficult topic and great collaborations with Sam and Beacebrocess! Good on leaving out “which is better” too!
he got 'managed' by his ADL handlers on this one
just to make sure all the facts are 'zionistically correct'
The most dedicated CZcamsr to the sponsor I've ever seen.
(I've also watched your explanation about sponsorship in EmperorTigerStar's channel)
lol well ya know, I do like Harry's
Hell yea! I use Harry’s too so thanks for this. Razors are so damn expensive. I’m a woman but Harry’s razors are cheaper than my preferred brand, Venus. It took some getting used to using it bc it moves and feels different than any other razors I’ve used before but I definitely recommend it too. I won’t show a video of me shaving though
Whose watching this after October 6, 2023 to get up to speed on what's going on ?
Yeah bro get updated before the new season drops
Regarding Balfour Declaration, the area that was know as Palestine, included today's Jordan as well, that was also promised to the Jews. Your map was wrong. Borders of the land of Palestine as you describe them only came after Transjordan was broken off
I noticed that too. That and the blockade of Gaza being a joint one with Egypt, as well as Egypt being in control of Gaza before 67, was another map related set of issues.
Still, overall, fairly good overview.
Hats off, thanks for covering this !
But also… GOOD LUCK TO READ THE COMMENTS, you’ll need it lol
ikr? lol but thank you!
But I’m very surprised with most of the comments being civil with this very sensitive subject
You have very quickly become one of my favourite political youtubers. This video was very informative, I really appreciate the recognition of both the Israeli and Palestinian people.
What's happening right now in this area is truly awful. I recognise the Israeli people have a right to exist and live in this space, but the systemic human rights violations and blatant disregard of international law have made me extremely critical of the Israeli government and the IDF. I truly do not know whether a solution is even possible with the current state of affairs, but I sincerely hope that the slaughtering of innocent civilians in both nations will stop soon. It is truly devastating to see.
As these issues tend to push people into 2 boxes, I tend toward the "pro palestine" box, as I am against the systemic oppression that has been going on for decades, but I prefer to put myself in the "pro peaceful coexistence" box.
Flash forward a couple months and Gaza is a smoldering ruin with oct 7 being inflicted on the Palestinian’s every single day for half a year. There will be no two state solution, the struggle is close to over, the colonizers have more or less won. West Bank is becoming increasingly violent and settling has accelerated. It won’t be long.
as someone who lives in Rishon letzion, Israel I can confirm that the prices are unfortunately high and are still on the rise, many protests took place because literal essentials like bread and Milk cost over 16 NIS which is ridiculously high compared to our paychecks which stood still since the start.
where? milk is 5.90 and bread is 6.90, :)
@@itamarcohen6868 prices change often but in the local supermarket they all cost 18
@@R0DBS2 aren't they under government supervision? They can't sell it for whatever price they want, it's illegal.
@@itamarcohen6868 idk dude i think it was only some breads but most prices are 6-7₪
Compared? lol
I this channel does this as a format, but oooof this phase here does hit different
Can you do Singapore and Malaysia compared?
Noting that Israel and Palestine are both democracies misses an enormous difference in their political cultures.
Universität Würzburg (Germany) ranks 176 nations by quality of democracy. In this ranking, Israel is 35, the US is 36, the West Bank is 166, and Gaza is 168.
Hard to afford democracy when war and death are not only a worry but an everyday threat.
Do you realise that the standards of western institutions are biased? like when they say US is a democracy thats mean the neglect all undemocratic practices like gerry mandering, the senate and electoral college and the two Party dictatorship. with israel they neglect the aparthide .
Ye I thought that as soon as I heard it
I wouldn't call Palestine a democracy at all actually. In Gaza rules the very undemocratic Hamas and in the west bank Mahmood Abbas, the ruler, refuses to have elections for years. How long since they had elections there? 15?
Finally someone objective.
Great job covering this. The Maccabean period is one of the most interesting in history. It really shaped the thinking of the Jews who became the first Christians.
Mr. Beat, your accent and tone of voice are SO close to John Greene it is messing with my head, and I have to keep checking whose video I am watching at the moment.
10/10 good work
i’d be terrified of uploading this, great video mr beat!
Oh believe me, I am certainly terrified
Why would you be terrified to upload this i wonder? Haha
Philippines and Indonesia compared would be an interesting one to do, in my own opinion.
Heck yeah
for that matter, Indonesia and Malaysia!
@@iammrbeat Also the countries of the former Indochina, there's so much amazing and unique history to each of them and I feel most of them either get forgotten or lumped together.
One is now a pile of rubble…one isn’t
This has suddenly become very prevalent. Thank you for the information to prepare ourselves for these chaotic times
I was looking forward to this video, and I am impressed. To be honest, I was a little afraid, but after seeing the video, I really shouldn't have been. Well done!
And may it bring peace or genuine hope to this place.
Were you afraid they’d call out the apartheid 🥺🥺
@@clementhudson4788 No, actually. I was afraid they would make it sound like all Israelis are bad.
@@clementhudson4788 the apartheid is an exxageration-a narrative created by the arab media network as part of a concerted attack on Israel, driven mostly by antisemitic fervor
@@clementhudson4788 how is it aparteid going aginst isis lvl extrems ?? simple stop attacking us and there will be peace.
100% of the wars/fights started by you ... so yeah we do everything we can to defend ourself thanks !!
Excellent and informative video, on several different levels.
Thank you!
Why is this an age restricted video? Did YT explain that action to you?
Wow. This video was made on October 7th. Exactly a year before, well, you know.
One of the things that bother me about the US is you can't even offer a mild critique of the treatment of Palestinians by Israelis/Israel Government without being labeled antisemitic.
And you cant criticize Palestinians because you will be labeled as Islamophobe.
Of course who has most of the power in our politics and media?
@@SixHundredandThirteen people like you are the reason we can't say stuff like this
@@elibethea4484 you must not be to bright. Did I create the meaning of antisemitism? No , if you do your research you'll truly see how it was created for manipulation.
@@elibethea4484 you must not be to bright did I create antisem no , If you look why it was truly created it was to manipulate the mass. So try again buddy
Amazing how much you were able to cover! I really appreciate when CZcamsrs with a large audience are willing to speak about the region. Also impressive that Harry's is willing to sponsor. Respect.
A few things:
1. 3:50 Jews were enslaved by Babylon they didn't just flee. I believe the number is at least ten thousand. Cyrus freed them and allowed them to return, not just encouraged.
2. 10:07 Fun fact: Zionists were not sure at first whether they would settle in Palestine. Among other countries they considered Uganda and Japan. Imagine an alternate universe where it is called the "Japanese -Israel" conflict.
3. 16:40 Syria actually signed a ceasefire agreement in 1974 and it's been the longest lasting ceasefire agreement between Israel and any other Arab state. Syrians often accuse Hafez of selling us out in the six-day war as everyone from IDF, IAF, USA, and Syrian army witnesses claim the surrender of Golan was premature. There is also an article about Hafez receiving $100 million for the land.
Assad is winning
Erdogan will normalise with Assad
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Disengagement_between_Israel_and_Syria
About 2, you're wrong in the terminology.
There were such ideas, yes, but they weren't coming from zionist (the word Zion is another name for the land of Israel), but by people who called by themselves Territorialist.
Anyway, they were a minor movement and faded after a few decades. Their biggest achivement was the autonomous jewish region in the USSR, which was also kinda made possible by the Bund and as a reaction to USSR jews being mostly zionist.
About 3, Syria and Israel did fight during the lebanese conflict in a few battles, also Israel pretty regularly bombs Iran and Hizballah places of intrest in Syria, not to mention the destruction of the syrian nuclear reactor.
There hasn't been a total war, yeah, but it's a very tense ceasefire.
@@enoch9468 2. In the early 20th century Cyprus and El Arish on the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt and its environs were proposed as a site for Jewish settlement by Herzl.
3. The ceasefire is specifically over the Golan heights and is specifically cited by Israeli leaders like Netanyahu as reason for why Assad is preferable to rebels.
17:34 The withholding of tax revenues was not simply as compensation, it was specifically because of the PA's Martyrs Fund. The Martyr's Fund is a program run by the PA in which money is given to Palestinians who are killed or imprisoned fighting Israel. Israel argues that, as the majority of those who receive funding through this program died or were imprisoned due to making terror attacks on civilians, this is a "pay-for-slay" policy (the actual wording used), and so has withheld an amount of money equivalent to what the PA spends on the Martyr's Fund.
Both sides should stop fighting and just talk
One side wants to exploit and enjoy a privileged status over the other.
Did the American rebels just need to talk it out with ole king George? What about the French rebels? Should they have talked it out while not eating for 3rd week in a row?
In a situation where it’s the oppressor vs the oppressed, the former has complete control over diplomacy. They won’t give ground, so the later is forced to use any means. It’s a very common and well understood dynamic.
The west simply has forgotten all of history because screw Arabs I guess, why should they be given equality.
Mr.Beat your videos inspired me to be an historic person as an dude who didn’t like history at first you were one of the first to make me love history it facilitates me and scares me sometimes but that what makes history great
That's amazing, I'm Palestinian and this video is surprisingly, completely unbiased and says the true story as it is. I wish everyone could just live in peace.
Unbiased, maybe. But not entirely factual. Although most of it was great indeed.
Me too🤞🤞
Im israeli jewish and hoping for peace
u are just an arab not Nrinan
@@ziv8978 🇵🇸 LONG LIVE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
This Jesus guy seems interesting Netflix should make a series on him.
Jesus was more than interesting, he was world renowned. He is my savior. Jesus is king.
Hey Mr. Beat, I have been a subscriber of yours for a few years now. I will begin by saying that this video is amazing, you covered the subject efficiently, and you have presented the land's history from an objective standpoint. I was extremely surprised that when you zoomed in on the Israeli map you were set on the city i grew up in (Yehud). I was somewhat moved by that, never thought you will ever have an encounter with my small hometown. Anyways, I think that this is a great opportunity to thank you for your great educating content. Additionally, I was a little disappointed that you did not mention how successful the Israeli economy has been. For a country who wasn't gifted with great natural resources, our success was created thanks to entrepreneurship nature of our people. Anyway, great video and really looking forward to that Tel-Aviv Jerusalem comparison.
Are you a Jewish Israeli? Cause I don't know how anyone that is knowledgeable of the situation could think this video is fair in any way.
From Savyon here! Considered it close enough that I felt the same!
I am a Jewish Israeli and I feel like with the time constraints of the video it did a pretty good job. I could see how some would maybe take issue with the 1948 segment of the video and specifically the atrocities that were committed by both Israeli and Palestinian armies on civilians. I think Israelis need to be made aware of a dark mark in our history especially when it comes to the Irgun, which was undoubtedly a terrorist organization and spurred a lot of revenge terrorism against Jews in 1947. The Irgun sought to drive out the British by any means. With that being said Palestinian and other Arab armies also engaged in terrorist acts against civilians. Both should be condemned.
@@DanBorens the video was very pro palistine
@@Shellybelly778 I disagree
As an Israeli, I love this video, one of the best videos on the situation in youtube, and i have seen a lot of videos about it.
you got to be joking situation its an illegal invasion here a wee tip for give palestine there land bank and go to place the soviet union was going to give you or just walk about the desert for a thousand years isreal is a terrorist state
Hey, Mr. Beat. Can you please compared both South Africa and Namibia?
That'd be so interesting, not enough people know about the absolute beauty that is Namibia.
Always nice to have an unbiased source I trust. Make it easier to parse these things out. Congrats on coming up on 1m!! Huge fan of the channel
Overall a really solid and informative analysis and history of both places. The only small critique I would make is that you said that overall Israel tends to be “much more free and fair,” and while by no means is Palestine’s democracy perfect or extremely democratic, it is important to give perspective that there is much systemic and fundamental legislature in place in Israel which openly and explicitly advocates for segregation and discrimination of people based on nationality. For example, your nationality is determined by your ethnicity and it cannot be changed or challenged. Many of the rights you are accorded in Israel stem from your nationality, not your citizenship. Therefore, though the democracy of Israel may be more ostensibly free and fair, it is important to remember that there is fundamental systemic discrimination in even the un-occupied (military) sectors and regions of Israel. Just wanted to point this out to highlight a potentially significant piece of information about Israel compared to Palestine.
for anyone reading this comment, please know that absolutely none of that is true..
I actually had a different problem with the video, it happens to be with the same sentence as you pointed out..
Even though the democracy in Israel isn't flawless it is miles ahead of any of it's neighboring states and it is definitely lightyears away from the Palestinian democracy... The sentence you wrote "while by no means is Palestine’s democracy perfect or extremely democratic" is hilarious really, they don't even hold elections. They are simply not a democracy and never have been.
A fifth to a quarter of Israeli citizens are Arabs. They have full rights as citizens.
The only differences: Jews have the right of return while Arabs do not, as letting every single person who claims to be a fifth-generation Palestinian "refugee" claim citizenship would cause obvious problems. If you don't know what I mean, Israel would not exist anymore. Also, Arab Israelis are exempt from the draft.
@@ouri1212 lol genocide defender
@@TizBaz5 lol this guy is defending apartheid
@@ouri1212 @TizBaz5 Israel has the modern equivalent of Jim Crowe laws… racism, segregation, and racial stratification are core tenants of the Zionist movement.
Non Jewish Israeli citizens are established as second class citizens under law. The right of return is not the only thing Arabs are denied. Making the claim that “5th generation citizens” coming back to Palestine would be an issue is nonsensical, most of them are the children (2nd gen) and grandchildren (3rd gen) of the victims of nakba… there are Israelis living in the houses their living relatives built…
Compare that to the right of return to Jews who can’t trace their lineage to region for 2000+ years. Millions have been granted citizenships with no verification of lineage but that’s not an issue because it reinforces the colonization, right?? If the living natives, and immediate descendants of them, return to the region, as you said, the colony state of Israel literally wouldn’t exist, it would be a united Palestine again where the Zionist don’t enjoy a privileged status anymore and instead are made equal. I really don’t see the comparison here.
I don't know who you are and I've never watched your videos up to this one, but WOW - I don't think I've seen such a historically accurate, objective and nuanced description of the reality of the region - in English. Bravo.
Wow, thank you!
i cannot wait for the civilized and respectful discussion we're about to have in the comment section
Mos def
No one is more civilized than the Palestine supports that go on every post and spam FREE PALESTINE!!!! on everything and if you disagree with them they start threatening you
How is it age restricted
Can't wait to see the highly civilized comment section!
grab the snacks