BEST Clay for Making Monsters! WED Clay Sculpting Demo | Monster Lab
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- In Monster Lab 23, Ed Edmunds gives his opinion on the BEST CLAY for making monsters in the world! At Distortions Unlimited we love WED clay sculpting. This video includes a WED sculpting demo of a monster mask and tips on how to use water based clay and why we prefer to work with it. Ed also mentions some situations and reasons why a sculpture might chose oil based clay instead, such as SFX appliances, or mini figurines. We would love to hear your experiences and opinions working with WED clay below. We have included an amazon affiliate link for WED clay below. Also, if you love Monster Labs consider becoming a Monster Lab insider and supporting us on Patreon.
WED clay was originally made for use in the sculpting Disney's animatronics models, WED (Walter E. Disney) clay is an amazing water-based, air dry clay with properties similar to many of today's most popular oil based clays. It's smooth, slow drying, extremely pliable, and works great for sculptors seeking a "fast sculpt" medium. We love to use it at Distortions for sculpting our masks, props, and large animatronic Halloween props.
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DONE AND DONE. TY!
I really like Ed. He’s very calm and patient and explains things really well. You get the sense that this isn’t his first time walking someone through this process and has a great manner about him.
As a seventeen year old in the countryside, watching your videos makes things SO much easier, especially since it's all FREE! Any time I need tips or tricks, even just reassurance in what I do, your channel is the first place I come to :)
Making monsters is, hands down the best content possible. I'd love to see you or Jordu working on a realistic shark!
I REALLY appreciate that Bruna!!
Agreed! Their talent is out of this world and yet they just seem like totally ordinary and relatable people. They share their skill and make this seem attainable, and the vibes are just great. Ed reminds of an uncanny resemblance and personality to my college professor years ago. Just a hoot!
Can't wait to hear everyones opinions on what clay they prefer and why!
Love WED, ROMA, NSP, Polymer, Monster Clay, WAX, Epoxy Putty. Whatever the right medium for the piece.
more of an illustrator/cartoonist than a sculptor. usually cheap air dry clay is bad. home made paper clay has to be done in a certain way and already bought air clay is expensive. and very difficult to do with paper mache. what is actually somewhat ok, if you call it a clay is what i call cotton clay. pretty much the ingredients of home made paper clay except you use cotton. but is no where near as good as WED,Monster clay,epoxy,etc. it can only give very rough texture for very primitive pieces. would be good for making trees and i think that is about it.
Monster clay
Holy moly!!! That would take at least a week with oil based!!
Accurate.
Finally...i have spent waaaay to long searching what clay i need to use. Thank you !!! I am now hooked. I have been wanting to make my own masks since i was a little kid and now that i am older i am finally going to make my dreams real. So glad i found your channel.
Transworld right around the corner. Can’t wait to see your new items and talk with you again.
Yes! come say hello! We are looking forward to Transworld and seeing everyone!
I go thin on top too.... and when I wrap the sculpt, I drape a few paper towels over it and wet those down. That helps compensate for a less than perfect seal.
You are such an a amazing sculptor, I see how quickly you create forms and shapes, true mastery of the medium. Thanks for these videos, I have been learning a ton and once I get past the fear of doing it, I plan on putting this information to good use. Keep up the videos, you have a forever fan here.
Thank you so much Samhain Propworks for all of your kind words and support! We really appreciate it and are wishing you all the best in your work and projects. Please let us know how they go and send us updates.
Thanks Ed!! You are a great teacher and I have learned so much from you. Thanks!!!
Thanks so much from all of us here at Distortions!
Masterful work ! The minions are forever worshipping at the altar of Master Monster Maker Ed ... Excelsior !
Love using air drying clay, here in the UK I use NCP (New Clay Product) and Pot Clay.
Both are good to use 'although' the Pot Clay appears to be a little firmer (good for a speed job)
So, yeah, mud pies serve me very well indeed.
I use WED for sculpting all my monsters. Have watched tons of your videos, and THANK YOU for everything you have shared by the way. You and your team are the best at Monster making. 😁
I've never heard of Wed clay, thanks!
I had been thinking about which clay I wanted to start using. Even got a sample pack of oil based. I'm definitely going with WED after watching this video. Thanks again, Ed!
Stunning work as always Ed . So much information, thanks it helps so much.
You are a wonderful teacher! I am doing something different than Monsters, but who cares! :) Your teaching is perfect for me. I love your empathic approach, keeping it real, while sharing all the actually important lessons.
Thanks so much for the kind words and wishing you all the best with you creative projects!
I still watch all ypur basic tip videos. You've taught me so much and i thank you. Sculpting was my therapy after a brain injury in the military. My once therapy turned hobby has become much much more.
That is so cool!
Hi Unknown Origin fx! Thanks so much for taking the time to share some of your story and about how sculpting and working with ones hands can be so healing. Inspiring story! All of us at Distortions wish you the best as you continue to sculpt and create and we hope we can see some of what you are making soon! Thanks again!
Thank you.
He's so amazing! I could listen to him all day.
So talented🤯
I like water based clay. Totally with you on all aspects you described.
Nice video, learned a lot, also a funny teacher😅
Great video. Thank you so much for showing these techniques to everyone. Love your products and your show. Keep doing what you’re doing!
I used wed clay once and it took everything I had to not eat some, it’s so smooth it feels like it should be edible
Another outstanding video. Thanks for posting it.
Would love to see the finished product
You are the bob ross of monster sculpting
Thank you so much...I sculpt for fun...I love it, but have never tried Wed clay....been a little afraid of drying issues...but I will give it a try...really great info...thanks...
Great video, thanks Ed! I love wed clay. How about a video on molding something like that? A full-head mask on a bust like this one? Thanks!
Loving watch clay come to life 😍
I use monster class y and really like it but the more I see people working with WED the more I want to try it. I just started with monster clay because I also tattoo full time, build custom guitars, and breed snakes so I wanted something that wouldn't dry out if I didn't work on it for a while. Ed rules by the way!
Nice smooth way to humble brag
Thank you for the tips.I updated a mask , looks good.
Awesome video and great teacher. I am always interested in learning about new materials and techniques. New subscriber.
Hiya - Never did anything like this before - but always wanted to - tried it on the "covid Holiday" everyone is on - You make it look Super Easy - doing the eyes is Tough!!!...Will be checking out the patreon....Thanks for the Great vIdeos!!!
Love your work! Thanks so much! I'm trying to make my own mask for Halloween this year and these videos are a HUGE help!
Awesome, Ed! Gonna try and use some WED clay soon. Thanks for the tips! You do such a great job.
Thanks so much JTAHaunts! Best wishes on your next project!
Thanks!
Ahhhhh yeah, weekend came early!
I only use oil clay for prosthetics or maquettes. WED is definitely my preferred clay for anything larger
I was amazed when I first touched WED. It is amazingly intuitive to form, but I have stopped using it because of dry hands and silica dust everywhere. I guess that's fine in a shop with air filters but not great in my house. Some day I hope to work with it again, using hand moisturizer and maybe a downdraft table. Plasticine is a PITA.
I have never tried wed am anxious to try it you do such great work
digging the production quality !
Thanks Whatamovie!
Bravo!Magnificent tutorial on WED
Thanks so much for the kind words Jeanne! Happy they are helpful videos!
What a fantastic creation you made. Don't thing I would ever take him out to dinner, though!
Bravissimo👍
Sculptors and SFX artists, what is your favorite clay?
I love monster clay^^
Thanks for the great tips Ed, I'm excited because I have two boxes of WED clay I picked up from laguna back in 2016 to make a couple molds and surprisingly they still seem to be in good shape. I have always created stuff on a piece of plywood or fixed pipe but where can I get my hands on a cool mannequin head like yours? I'm hoping to start sculpting some creations soon I just have to finish with some other less interesting projects first. Thanks again!
Love it🎃
Thanks Texa Bullshark! Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
Yes, sir! I love monster Lab! DU is amazing!! 🎃👽
Buen trabajo eres genial grandes tips saludos desde peru
TY TY TY. You leveled up my understanding of WED. Excellent video 11/10. I have some questions about whether silicone molds work over WED, if a barrier is needed, etc. Also, do you have a recommendation for where to find inexpensive "mounts" like your plaster one? Something better than a styrofoam thing from the craft store?
33:43 That Distortions song is outstanding, where i can find the full version? band?
Great but would love to see how you finish it. How does it stay strong? Not break?
On my channel I do 7 inch figures, but I’ve been wanting to get my hands into doing some life-size sculptures or bust of monsters. I subscribe to your channel what a vast amount of knowledge you fit in the one video you definitely have me as a subscriber. I’m always doing things for celebrities always thinking about the next thing. There’s so many videos. I’ll have to go back and take a look at the entire catalog you have here.
Love your videos. you dont go for the short thrill but give us the whole shebang, be it 40 minutes or a couple of hours.
though im more of a wax clay kinda guy (i have to take my time) i love wathcing your work and advice and am sure to try out your recommended clay.
Thanks again.
Macabre Clay is the best!!
...If there was such a clay. Thanks for the video👍.
Ha! You got me!
And yes, I agree, WED is the best!!!!
You convinced me....one question...how long can you work with this clay provided one follows the rules of properly covering? One of the most informative videos I have found on this subject of this type of clay ..and I have looked at alot 👀 thanks.
Weeks!
Ed with social distancing and with Quarantine: how is your business model evolving with the current state of things? discovered the show 4 weeks ago and am hooked!
Oh, we just do our best to be safe and just keep on working!!
I love these videos they inspired me to start making my own Halloween masks and now I am going to be selling them for money so I can be rich in a good way
Good
I’ve only ever worked in oil, but I think it’s about time to make the switch.
Awesome video , once we paint the sculp with the krylon gloss leather should we be worryed about the clay for cracking or the paint do the job just like plastic bag?
Nice video you explain it really well also I just thought of this monsters are werid in a good way so if it looks werid it would look better but only make it werid looking if it's not a humanoid monster hopefully I'm on the right track.
I follow your process and made a grinch mask and it came out perfect so thank you
Cool! Glad the videos helped! We have a Monster Lab Facebook group, you should share the photos if you want on there or upload a video of you in costume! Congrats
Can i make small sculptures with tiny details in this "W.onderful E.xciting. D.irt." Clay? And then can i make a silicone mold out of it? Thank you. Amazing video! Much appreciated.
I ordered your gremlin and your blue faced kids can hardly wait til they get here
Thanks so much for ordering the kids! They looking forward to going to your good home! : )
I use a heat gun when using oil based clay. It softens the clay in seconds. The when it hardens back up you don't risk smudging any details if you touch it or something falls on it.
Very interesting to hear what other artists are using for their creations and how they make it work. Thanks!
I feel the same way about oil and wax based clays, Ed. What a great video.
Also, has anyone noticed how WED clay is so moldy these days? I never remember WED being moldy at all until about 2013.
Interesting, has anyone else had an experience with moldy WED clay? Also Fulci Fan what projects are you currently working on in oil and wax based clays? Love to hear your opinions.
That's true.
DistortionsUnlimited Ed, honestly, I don’t even use WED clay for my products these days. I just buy whatever water based clay I can get from hobby lobby down the street. Shipping prices are killer. The last time I used monster clay was when I made my Frank Frazetta inspired Frankenstein: “Man-Made” for my mask company: Creature Crypt. All the other products you see on my site or my Instagram are done in store bought water based clay. Oil and waxed based clays are too slow for me and hard to work with and I’ve been doing this stuff for over 15 years and can’t seem to fully get where I want to be with it.
Crazy question I can't find an answer to.
I forgot in my storage I had a brand new box of Wed. Now 4 yrs later, I'm shocked it still moist however; the clasp area of the bag is slimy. Does the slime part indicate mold? Or possibly the non climate controlled storage moisture built up on it. I hate throwing out supplies but if I have to I guess :(
I've only used oil based clay and have the toughest time trying to smooth it out at the end.. anyone have any tips? Currently I'm using a heat gun, sandpaper, break, and Goo Gone... but it still doesn't get the smoothness I'm looking for.
Sadly for me in europ shipping is as expensive as the raw material
So it seems like no wed clay for me
But is there an alternative that might be easier to get?
I love wed clay, but my only problem with it is that it's not reusable. And it dries out. One time I covered a sculpt with a garbage bag and somehow it still dried out
It would still be cool if you would make a tutorial with oil based clay 🙂
Thats a good idea! Maybe we will do that some time. Ed's early masks were sculpted in oil based clay
DistortionsUnlimited wow 🤩 awesome ,would be great
Hey Ed is it possible to make a one part mold with a full head mask like this? What if I did the mold walls on the bottom of the mask would that work ?
The clay looks great, I'm sure it is useful in almost any modelling, great work with this. I think I will give WED a shot on some of my models.
Cool! What size and types of models are you currently working on?
@@DistortionsUnlimited I normally do car models with a lot of extras but I'm sure this can add to them.
not gonna say that i agree, still this was instructive, thanks!
Thats good! We want to hear other opinions. What clay do you prefer and what kinds of projects do you use it on?
@@DistortionsUnlimited wow....i use mainly monster-clay, it works for me as i like somewhat firmer clays and i feel is somewhat more forgiving. For now i used it to make my first resin mask and some silicone shrunken heads inspired things.
pls let me take this chance to truly thank you for all the content you create/have created, it means a lot to me so thank you. love you folks!
@@rhuugh6438 Monster clay is fantastic. Just used it recently. WED clay does not work for a lot of things. Of all the other non-wed clays I've used Monster clay is my favorite.
After molding what do you do with the original sculpts?
Well after molding the clay must be removed from the mold and the mold cleaned. So the sculpt is destroyed so its important to get the mold right. Much of the clay can be reused if desired. We have some previous Monster Lab videos showing this molding and cleaning process.
With clay being water based which s the best way to apply plaster without disturbing the clay beneath?
Bob Ross of sculptors
Should I spray my sculpt with water before I cover it? Or will covering be enough to keep it from drying and cracking?
It's always good to spay it down before covering it.
Even with the use of a heat gun and keyboard cleaner spray "it turned it into a mechanical, joyless process" ...... *I felt that.* But hey! At least after all this, I now know I can still feel something, eh?
4rth time I have watched this...☺️
Killer clowns from outer space??? Lol
What's the best way to tell if wed clay is firm enough to spray coat it?
It is firmish and dryish!
How long should WED clay set or dry before applying white clay wall for casting?
Good question. Well the clay should be firm to the touch but not so dry it changes color significantly before you spray paint it. The spray paint is the mold release. Obviously you won't be able to change the sculpt once you spray paint it. Then when it is sprayed you can let it sit a few hours more before putting the clay dam on it before molding. We will have to touch on that a bit more in a future video.
I'm just starting sculpting. The first clay I ordered was WED 217, Gray, 25 pounds. The question I have is simple - once I finish the sculpture, is there a way to make it last without casting it in a mold? I don't have tons of money to build a SPFX workshop and silicone rubbers and all that isn't cheap.
Well, it will crack some but...well not really.
I sculpt 8inch figures and take a very long time to complete. Is WED clay appropriate for this ?
Hi Arts Model Station. No WED clay is probably not the best choice for sculpting minatures and small figures. But it depends what the figure is and what details are included. We have a Monster Lab video where we sculpt a small Gremlin prop using WED Clay and of course have a number of videos where we sculpt masks with it.
Do you have ant tips for over night storage after you started the sculpt besides cover with plastic and air is the enemy?
If you cover you sculpture well with a plastic bag and make sure it is really tucked in so not much air can get in the sculpt will be fine and will not dry out over night. If it is well covered you can leave the sculpt for some time. Also, if you need to get it a bit softer again you can spray it with water and bag it, just take care you don't spray away all your details.
@@DistortionsUnlimited Thank you!! Looking forward to the clay getting here this week!
No one ever says how long it takes to dry. Does it crack easily? Is it a pain to do the really fine details like eyes?
Which is the best way of making plaster molds without disturbing the water based clay underneath?
Thanks Julli! We appreciate hearing that.
Woot
You were first!
What color clay should I use?
We prefer using Lagunas WED clay for our sculpts. Other popular clays are Monster Clay for masks as well.
W.E. D stands for Walter E Disney
You got it!
Walter Elias Disney
When you are finished, you can just let it dry and you leave the styrofoam inside- correct??
Hi Mr. L and thanks for your question. You should check out our Monster Lab Mold Making videos so you can see the next step. You will make a mold on top of the sculpture.
@@DistortionsUnlimited Thank you! Can you keep this as a free standing sculpture on its own if it was made well with the Laguna Clay?
I agree oil based clays definitely feel very mechanical & they’re not as much fun.
What is the pros and cons of monster clay
Monster Clay does not dry out like the clay we use. We use a water based clay that will dry out over time if not covered. But there are many advantages of WED as well. This actually would be a great question for some of our sculptors like Jordu or Tom. We will see if we can get another video out on the topic. Take care!
How many pounds of clay is recommended?
0:12 name of movie?
Does WED clay crack?
Yes
I like WED ,but use monster clay a lot
Hi Chris! Great! We love to hear your opinions here on why you like to use Monster Clay and why and for what projects do you select WED or Monster Clay. We can't wait to hear what people prefer to use for their own projects. Wishing you the best!
@@DistortionsUnlimited thanks! BTW, love your show on travel channel. I mostly use monster clay as I usually don't have a lot of time to work on stuff so it can sit forever and knock out bits at a time. I also like that I don't need as much of an armature inside as I do WED. I don't have a WED supplier nearby so it usually costs an arm and a leg on shipping, I only live 4 hours from Monstermakers in Cleveland lol
@@chriscollis7712 Monster clay is fantastic. I just used it recently.