Youthful WWII Veteran Shares About Shooting at the Germans
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This is an interview with a WWII veteran named Mr. Doisen who fought in Italy as a machine gunner sharing his experiences in Pisa!
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When did you film these interviews? WW2 soldiers must be all nearing a 100 years old now so I'm surprised you found so many. In any case, great job guarding their stories for eternity, thanks!
The amount of respect and love i have for these old warriors is just immense!!
why ? their idiotic fight made this crazy word possbile
@Ramona Rael lol :D i bet you believe in corona too
@@soundofeighthooves It’s not like anyone knew that though. They were young men who loved their country and fought for it honorably, regardless of consequence. That in itself is admirable.
@@mikev8577 if you outnumber you opponent by men and material by far and fight a fight impossible to lose then no honour is involved.
@@soundofeighthooves Stop being a wehraboo.
My father was a Medic in the U.S. Army. He said the regular Germain army would not fire on American Medics and the U.S. Army would not fire on German Medics. The Germain SS however would fire on American Medics. There were even instances of Medics on both sides aiding wounded soldiers of the other side.
Edited to add, I will assume the "likes" are for my deceased father. He was proud to have served.
The "even instances" of medics treating wounded soldiers of either side was not all that uncommon.
As an example, in the Falklands war (1982), the senior British medical officer on the Islands, Surgeon Commander Rick Jolly RN, triaged and treated casualties according to clinical need regardless of nationality. He was, as you might expect, decorated for galantry by the British after the war. Perhaps a little more unexpectedly, he was also decorated for galantry by his erstwhile enemy, Argentina.
Then compare that to the Apache helicopter pilots who gunned down the reporters in Iraq and then gunned down the father and his kids going school who came along in a van and tried to help the reporter. The technique of “Double tap” drone strikes to kill medics and rescuers got its own nickname.
While this may be true in some instances, we shouldn't absolve the German regulars, the Wehrmacht, of their crimes against humanity. The evidence that German regulars treated western European enemies "better" on the battlefield is anecdotal at best. This is perhaps due to relatively better treatment of western POWs by the Germans compared to those from the Baltics, African, and Slavic theaters who suffered immensely at the hands of the German Wehrmacht. Even at their best, many were brainwashed to believe non-Aryans were lesser and could be treated as such. There's little honor in fighting for a country determined to systematically wipe our entire races of people.
What did he fight for? For the election fraud...for the destruction of the 1st amendment and the whole constitution. Sham impeachments , fake dossiers??? For protecting the Chinese in Afghanistan? What would have he done if he would have known?
My father told me when his company where on a road heading for the front a German plane came in for the attack but when the pilot saw a red cross vehicle passing them he pulled out of the dive and even tipped both wings as he headed off elsewhere for other targets !
You see, unlike the movies, in real life, when someone sprays you with a machine gun, it rarely misses.
When it's your ass on the line aim small, so you kill everything trying to kill you.
Hit or Miss...hit or miss
In your experience.
You mean, the action I saw on "The A Team" wasn't like real combat?
And at further distance.
THANK YOU SIR for your service
You got to be kidding. Thankful for the destruction of free speech and election fraud. This phrase is becoming hollow.
@@didierborne166 explain what you mean
@@MootGamez The military is no longer in operation for America. In Afghanistan they are protecting Chinese mining operations and poppey fields. LOL
My uncle was a WWII veteran who fought in Europe. He told me that war will make you do things that you would never even think about doing otherwise. He told me about one time when he saw an American soldier and a German soldier engaged in hand-to-hand combat. He ran towards them, pulled out his pistol and blew the German's brains out. He said that now he can't even imagine doing something like that but at the time he didn't even hesitate or blink.
He probably shot dude in the face like five times I bet blew his shit to smitherines .
Respect to your uncle.
God bless you sir I had 3 late uncle's who served in WW2 and my late father and two uncle's in korea and I served in the Gulf war
Eighty years ago, today, my father's regiment of the Royal Artillery - 68th (4th West Lancs) Medium Regiment, R.A. - was involved in British General Archibald Wavell's Operation Compass offensive against the Italian army in North Africa, in which 25,000 British, Australian and Indian troops attacked and defeated over 130,000 Italians.
Dad's regiment had only just arrived from England, and was, at that time, the only regiment of Medium artillery (1 × battery of 4.5" guns - 234 Bty. [his unit] and 1 × battery of 6" howitzers - 233 Bty.) in Wavell's army.
68th Medium went into action for the first time in late December, 1940, participating in the bombardment of the defences of Bardia, with their specific target being a double regiment of horse-drawn field (75mm and 100 mm guns) artillery, preparatory to the tank and infantry assault. In one of the histories of the War in North Africa, there is a photograph of a gun of 234 Battery in action, and, also, a photo of a distant view of Bardia under bombardment. The targets for the guns of the several regiments of artillery involved are visible as being at the base of what appears to be a forest of tall pine trees - the dust and debris from the shell bursts.
Following the 'softening up' by the artillery, the Matilda tanks and infantry went in, and the Italians quickly 'threw in the towel', surrendering en masse to the attackers.
Following the Italian surrender, Dad and his comrades went forward to examine the effects of their gunnery and were shaken and horrified to discover the sheer scale of the devastation they had wrought. In Dad's words "It was bloody awful."
He and his mates then went over to join the Aussie, British and other members of the infantry and tank units who were moving among the Italian prisoners, sharing food and talking to those who were able to speak English, and examining photos of their families.
I'm sure that almost everyone on both sides were struck by the realisation that there was little difference between them. They were all young men who were there solely because they had been called up to carry out the orders of their countries' governments. None of them, given half a chance, would have been there, and almost none of them would have wanted to harm - let alone kill - ordinary people with families so very like themselves.
That's the real problem with war fighting: the ones who really need killing for the benefit of Humanity tend to be those furthest from the Front.
"...the ones who really need killing for the benefit of Humanity tend to be those furthest from the Front."
Roger that.
Your father sounds like a great man , I thank him for his service and I thank you for sharing this story . God bless
@@brettr7970 Thanks, Brett,
During the next week, or so, I'm going to add a couple more stories about my Dad's wartime experiences, including what happened at Herakleion on the afternoon of 20th May, 1941 - the first day of the German Airborne Division's assault on Crete - and regarding the Luftwaffe's attack on the ships of R. N. Force 'B' on the 29th May - during the evacuation of the 4,000 men of the garrison of Herakleion - and, specifically, what happened to H.M.S. Orion - one of the two cruisers involved in the operation. Dad was on the top deck of Orion, which had 1,100 soldiers embarked. During the course of repeated attacks by Luftwaffe Junkers 87 'Stuka' dive bombers and Ju 88s throughout the morning and early afternoon, Orion was struck by two bombs which caused over 560 casualties - including over 300 dead.
Both cruisers were badly hit - sustaining hits by two bombs each, two of the six destroyers involved were sunk, and over a thousand soldiers and members of the ships' crews were killed. On arrival at Alexandria, Orion sank at her moorings, but, having been refloated, sailed to the US where she was repaired and subsequently took part in the naval operation to provide fire support for the 'D'-Day landings on 6th June,1944.
Fortunately, during the course of about a decade, I was able to make covert recordings of Dad's wartime experiences - he would never have put certain aspects of them 'on the record' - and these enabled me to understand what had caused the combat-related P.T.S.D which haunted him for the rest of his life and impacted very seriously on his family.
In the event, the insights I gained into the cause of Dad's P.T.S.D., and the actions I took in order to completely resolve the serious depression I subsequently suffered from for the first four decades of my life, have led me to develop a major project based at St. Giles's Church, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire (near Windsor) which - apart from being famous as the subject of Thomas Gray's famous epic poem, 'Elegy Written In A Country Churchyard' (1750), was 'Home Church' of 4th (Prince of Wales's Own) Ghurkha Rifles Officers' Association from 1947 - 2007.
The veterans had fought in Burma during the war and had been, variously, P.O.W. on the notorious Burma-Siam 'Death Railway'; fought against the attacking Imperial Japanese 15th Army during the Battle of Kohima; or served with 111 Brigade of General 'Uncle' Bill Slim's 14th Army, as Brigadier Orde Wingate's Chindit 'Special Force' during Operation Thursday in early March - early June, 1944.
The intensity of the veterans' prolonged (3 1/2 years) captivity on the Railway, or during Operation Thursday, resulted in many of them suffering from serious psychological wounds for the rest of their lives, and it was their - and my father's - experiences which motivated me to develop this project.
As for Dad, he died peacefully in his own bed, with just me and my brother with him, six days short of his ninety-first birthday on 4th September, 2009 - seventy years and a day following the outbreak of W.W.2. on 3rd September, 1939 - a week to the day before his twenty-first birthday.
Best wishes!
@@bradgregersen7091 Thanks for your kind words, Brad!
Knowing Dad, he would never have considered himself to have been particularly heroic: he would have seen himself as just an ordinary bloke caught up in extraordinary events. And this is what made (because, sadly, there are very few veterans of W.W.2. still alive who were in at the beginning) that generation (and his father's generation) such remarkable people.
The very fact that you watched this video is proof of your interest in W.W.2., so I imagine you will also have watched Saving Private Ryan. If so, you may remember the scene where the section of G.I.s detailed to find Ryan has lost one of their number in an ambush by a German MG42 team. Having killed one and captured the other of the two Germans, the US soldiers debate killing their prisoner and force him to dig his own grave. In the event, however, the leader of the section - played by Tom Hanks - talks his men out of shooting the German by reminding them that none of them are professional soldiers, but are just ordinary civilians who have been called up to serve, and explains that he had been a school teacher.
@@petergleave7807 Wow...you do know a lot about the history.
My great uncle was a Japanese PoW, but he died before I was old enough to really understand. Same with my grand father. He wasn't a PoW, but he was in the Navy and I got the impression he was involved with some clandestine activities in the European theatre.
Brave men, all.
“Bring your gun and Follow Me”. The spirit of The Infantryman will never pass.
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Although he killed the enemy combatants he didn’t kill the medics. What a man
Its a warcrime to do so. Medics are protected by the Geneva convention.
@@imawsomeandyournot6108 if that's true, it's almost more grotesque than the war itself, in a way.
@@fredrickmiller6534 That is true. Also, after if you shoot the enemy but they don't die you have to help them when the fight is over.
@@imawsomeandyournot6108 Hahahahaha u mean the Geneva Suggestions?
@@idocoverz1100 its only a suggestion if you win.
His service and the service of those like him afford us the freedom we enjoy today! Thank you to all those that served the USA.
And look at the State of the USA now !
@@hectorheath it's very sad tbh to see such a great nation absolutely brought to it's knees
@@drakesp9479 just a hiccup
@@joevogliardo3131 well I hope your right with Biben driving your bus good luck luck my friend
Nicolas d'Avout glad you got that off your chest. Have a great freedom packed day!
An honorable soldier. Humble and matter of fact.
Yea real honorable to murder soldiers who weren’t fighting you and were walking on a sidewalk .
@@carlosdanger947 it’s very likely those 3 soldiers he killed would soon be firing to kill him. Kill or be killed is a fact of war unfortunately.
@@carlosdanger947 Troll
@@carlosdanger947 Completely honorable. Put down the game controller, only an idiot would give his enemy a fighting chance in war.
@@carlosdanger947 exactly.
Mane he hardcore thank you for your service
Unlike pop-culture lies, not all men who kill in war or in other justified situations are haunted for life by the experience.
If you can find a way to justify it, you’d be amazed with what a human can do
@@santiagovera7198 That's another subject entirely. Why did you bring that up?
@@TUCOtheratt what do you mean, I was agreeing with you
Man, getting killed with a couple of your friends while getting chow. War really is terrible.
@@santiagovera7198 Sorry I took it the wrong way. my bad.
One of my Hero’s....thank you for your service sir.
Thank you sir for fighting that countless thousands of Americans could continue to experience freedom & peace. The vets of WWII experienced things that many soliders today would find hard to handle.
thank you for your service
My Pa was in WWII and Korea. Jim BCC AZ
God bless you sir for serving our country so we can all have freedom .
Thank you for your service .
My dad never said much to me about the war, I was his youngest. He did tell my eldest sister a few things, like shooting the enemy was like shooting a deer. You line em up in the sights, squeeze the trigger & down he goes. He was on guard duty near the wars end, & it was a make shift stockade. He said the German soldier's didn't even have whiskers, just kids 14--16 yrs old. Dad was 21 at the time.
Bless this man.
Thank You!
Thank you sir!
another awesome story. Great job Sir!!
Did they run, or...? "No, they just died on the spot basically."
God bless you sir for your service to our country and keeping us free. Thank you for telling your story.
Thank you sir ....
God bless you sir. The world needs more MEN like you.
Thank you sir.
When I was in my teens, I went to a logging supply business with my step dad. As I was standing there just waiting for the transaction to finish up I looked around and noticed 2 nazi flags hanging in the corners of the business. This was sometime in the early 80's so you'd think this would be unusual. Fast forward 20 years and one day the gentleman that owned that particular business walked into my place of work. I asked him" what was the purpose of the flags hanging up"? His response... " I took them off a couple of Germans that wanted to hold onto them REALLY bad!" All I could think of was Holy Shit!!! After that, he would not talk about it. When he told me that, and the look on his face and his demeanor.... there was no BS about it.
Growing up there was always an old cigarette case in my grandfather's dresser drawer that my uncle brought back from WW2. It was emblazoned with the 6th air Corp symbol and still contained the ancient cigarettes. I once asked uncle how he got it. He gave me a strand look then said he'd found it when searching a SS lieutenant. He confiscated it then shot him through the head. This was because SS men regularly murdered allied fliers they found.
Thank you
A true American hero. I owe you my life sir. We all owe you. God bless you
Love this guy God bless real true Soldier
Thanks for your Service 🇺🇸
Mad respect 🙏💯
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Bless him
Thank you and God bless you.
My grandad was a in a vickers and bren gunner regiment in WW11 (22nd Cheshire) . I used to listen to his stories as a child. He never once said that he killed ppl, just used phrases "like when we ran into a patrol of young German officers it was a rough day".. Or "his friend said he'd go out on patrol in the N African desert that night.. And we never saw him again" ... Always so understated as a generation. He also said, ppl just need to forget about the war... I guess they earned that right. I never once saw him wear his medals or go on a parade. Just go to the cenotaph on 11/11 dressed in civilian clothes. His was happy to get the Maltese Cross awarded 50 years after he defended it, that's how long it took to get recognised the role the British played in stopping Malta, and the Med fall to the Axis... However I have the medals, and my great grandads from WW1 and the shrapnel he took at the battle of pashendale. The greatest generation.
How the Hell could anyone give this guy a "Thumbs Down"?? What's wrong with you??
Basement dwellers hiding in moms basement with mask on
some people just hate patriots who believe and love their country. they also hate those who fight for their country.
We're all entitled to our opinion, that's what freedom of speech is about. It's one of the things men fight wars over.
lmfao it's not rocket science...it's because people respect the German Army who fought against so many enemies, more than the U.S Army who didn't join the war until 2 years later and that was only due to Pearl Harbor being attacked...so it might have taken even longer ? plus they've not really got a good reputation when it comes to winning battles and wars...supplying armaments, yes.
@rudy ruby Are you serious? You sound like a 1950s movie cliché.
Just a sad situation. It’s a shame any human being should have to go through that.
I think Chicago is worse... 4,100 shootings in 2020
@@williamphillip9749 lmaooo ur mad funny no where near words do you understand how many people died during ww2? not to mention just americans?????
@@brandojames-deancoico3410 yeah I said that to him because of the Chicago flag in his picture, mind your own business Blowdo James D-bag
my neighbor is a vietnam vet and he told me how hellish it was when he was deployed, he still has dreams but he lives a normal life, he also told me that what i see in movies is not true, one almost never misses his shots
when my uncle told me about killing americans during the battle of Aachen,he never laughed.Because he had no pleasure in killing another human beings.
No one really should but seeing what was happening in the death camps would make it a lot easier.
Maybe because he realized he was fighting for the wrong side?
@@midwestmatthew9752 Idiot
@@steelcurtain2576 curious but do you think your father was fighting for the right side?
@@hellkell8693 it wasn`t my father i was talking about. My uncle,fought on german ground for his country.And during this time,yes he was fighting for the right side in his view.
800 yards and 60 rounds a minute? Nah It must be hard when you get to that age to remember all of the technicalities. Still have a massive respect for what these men did
He said "A hundred yards" not "eight hundred yards."
"We fought the wrong enemy" - George Patton speaking in 1945
Looking at this video this was a time in the usa when The Pledge Of Allegi ance To The Flag meant everything to those fighting democracy in our c ountry God bless them.
@Nicolas d'Avout Have you been to other countries? He did not murder anyone. Can you speak a mix of German and Japanese? If you can't, maybe you should thank him.
@@ridgerunner106 how do you say "atleast we're not speaking German" in Chinese or Arabic?
Ridge Runner this guy Nicolas attacked me as well. He is real smart isn’t he. Like you I say God Bless all those who fought back then
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Myron Coleman
Why would the pledge mean everything to those fighting democracy in our country? I'd have thought it would only have been important to those who were fighting for democracy.
@@shamrockshore6308 You're right I m ade mistake
Sad to hear loss of life stories no matter which side you are on. Three young men who were on their way to get something to eat getting riddled with bullets. Hunted down like animals because of wicked leadership.
It's called war. Don't start crap and there won't be any crap.
Clearly you havent experienced war, or puberty.
@@PrayedForYou Clearly you do not understand corrupt leadership.
@@CoolDaysEnd
Hey sorry nan, I was replying to Hernan Lecea not you, my bad.
Thanks!!!!!¡
Not always like Hollywood portrays it in movies, with the spraying back and forth.
Some of those machine gunners would aim carefully and were very good shots.
Machine gunners spray a line horizontal.
I was a machinegunner.
My M-60 was pretty accurate.
The feeling of operating a machinegun stays with you.
“I sent them to the promise land” I like that one
Respect from the UK sir.
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❤️🇬🇧👍 thank you
Freedom is not free
better read the Patriot act jeffy. it is 19 yrs old now.
Well spoken Jeff Riles!
Full respect. 🇺🇸
He didn't fire at the medics. What a noble soldier.
He looks bright
What a true to life badass.
Vielen Dank
wow thats something to be proud of
Hell yeah!
God Bless You 🙏
This man contributed such a significant puzzle piece to the overall Theatre. Salute to this Brave Man. Bless everyone in the promised land
First I thought he said 800 yards. That would be a heck of a burst!
My father was an American medic in WW2 and stated that no German troops ever deliberately fired on him on thr battlefield. It was artillery that killed indiscriminately and he stayed hunkered down when shells were falling and they couldn't scramble out of the way. When I was in Viet Nam, the enemy just tried to shoot any GO even if they were a corpsman or medic.
Great ,thank-you. Doing his duty doing his job..doesn't fire on the non-combatants knows the rules..that's what he's there for . It's war.
Wow.
Just talikg like it was just another day at work. I'm sure it wasn't though. Just how he sounds talking about it. And we complain about stores being closed. We got it pretty fuckin good. This dudes a hero!
War is government versus government.
This is another example that people are kind, and empathetic towards others. Regardless of nationality.
Congratulations
Lord bless these men! 💪💪
WW2 was just so epic. They don’t make wars like that anymore.
Well, I'm not sure what his name is but thank you for your service.
You got to be kidding. Thankful for the destruction of free speech and election fraud. This phrase is becoming hollow.
@@didierborne166 huh? What are you talking about? Free speach and election fraud? The man, regardless of what the political front was at the time (or now), served his country. He deserves respect and dignity for that.
@@btrswt35 Times have changed ...statues are being torn down ...Nancy just says "people do things". You would probably agree? He should have seen that Roosevelt was colluding with Stalin the butcherer and that this alliance would spell the end of Free America at some point.
@@didierborne166 Bud, the guy was probably a 18 or 19 year old kid at the time he served. He was a soldier doing what a soldier does, not looking 50 or sixty years into the future thinking or contemplating the politics of a world that was a lifetime away. If you want to blame someone for how the world is, blame the politicians and governments. They are the people and institutions that shape the world we are in.
Good man and I thank him for his service. With all due respect I would suggest 60 rounds a minute for a machine gun is a bit slow. My memory is slipping too.😊
I’m sure that the rate of fire was faso than that... more like 600
Probably meant he fired about sixty rounds in the bursts.
Badass I'll show you badass# this man May God bless him and America!!!!!!!!
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Eight hundred yards. Nice shot pops.
I nickname this dude Moses lol.
Respect
Didn't kill the medics are you fucking kidding me?!?!?! What a fucking gangster 😳
Such tenacity and bravery to be a soldier for your country. Such a shame that politics and the darker side of human nature allows for situations to arise where brave men must fight in the first plsce
@1:22 they never saw it coming👌
God bless.
" do you even have to aim when they're that close ?" 8oo yards is roughly 730 meters. That ain't no short distance even with a MG. The cone of fire on them things need controlled bursts. Damn good shooting from this fella!
It sounds like he's saying 800 yards, but he said "I'd say 100 yards". He kinda ran it all together lol
@@WorldsMotorsports really ?!? Well that makes more sense in regards to the interviewers reply! Haha
@@shaun_177 yes it does lol! I'm like you, 800 yards you better be aiming at something lol
He still has the young eyes of the infantryman he was.
Image how this man feels knowing the way this country is headed he fought for us and we are letting that generation down
Not anymore - we voted out the fascists
No.. we did not. You blind fool.
I guess u speak for all those who fought in the second great war uh? Didn't mean to offend anyone why don't u explain? I am a opened minded person somtin u don't find much so explain
@@justinmcclain4663 I speak for three uncles and an aunt, all of whom served in that war so that we could preserve actual freedom. They never supported fascism which is why every one of them would be pleased with this outcome. Neither they nor I are dim enough to consider Biden a great choice, but he is vastly preferable to that orange moron
@@camerondiaztwin How are they fascists? Do you even know what fascism even is? What about big tech ( companies that support the democratic party) censoring all these people simply for having a different political view from them. What about Pelosi referring to Trump sending the police and national guard to stop antifa and BLM from rioting in Portland as storm troopers but insisting on the national guard guarding Washington? What about the fact the fact that they're rounding up the protesters in Washington but the left has done nothing about BLM and antifa. The amount of damage done in Washington is nothing compared to what BLM and antifa did in Portland like t j.g st court house. And what about all statues they vandalized not just Confederate statues. But statutes of Lincoln, Francis Scott Key and many others but the left has said nothing.What Amazon deplatforming Parler simply because a lot of conservatives go on there.What about Twitter banning Trump? You may not like him but he's still entitled to freedom of speech. The fact that Trump was banned from Twitter and just about every other social media site as alarmed several other world leaders such as Angela Merkel and the President of Mexico. They even banned Baron Trump from minecraft. That's not fascism to you? And they weren't voted out the election was rigged.
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Hoorah!!!!
Makes you realise how futile it all is doesn't it?
Futile? They stopped the Italians, the Germans, and the Japanese.
what was the date of this storyline?
I dont wanna go no where near the promise land
800 yards doesn't seem particularly close.
He said 100*
not 800
@@kasperspangejensen5496 Correct .
In the words of general George s patton: It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died, rather, we should thank god that such men lived
Very considered of him not firing at the medics....very often the same courtesy was not extended....
Hero
The breadth of the Pisa river is lika 150-200 meters. Not really 800yards 😁
" I sent them to the promise land " , or whatever , Giggles lol He remind me of my grandpa who also fought the same war. You can't have a conscience during war. Kill or Be Killed. I wish I could have served my country as most my family have but they wouldn't let me join due to medical reason, my pancrease problems. Thank you to all who have served!
Respect!!!
My dad was a WW2 vet I still wonder how many half brothers/sisters i have overseas : )
Papa was a rolling stone
A friend wrote this to me today. 'Categories that talk about being oppressed after victory and motivated by revenge often turn out to be the most oppressive and hateful. History proves it.' I wonder what this old fellow will think of USA today..and all
I'd think he'd be pissed
@@joevogliardo3131 I reckon he would say, "if you sit back and don't fight you, get taken over by bullies." As my RAF rear-gunner father in law would say, too
I would find it heartless to shoot at men going for their dinner. I just don't think I could do that.
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I would love to by this gentlemen breakfast sometime and heard more stories !! The new kids have no idea what its like to have people shot back at you in war time. A true hero not because he killed , but because he stood his ground for the USA, win lose or draw !!! Just another of Americas best !!
Boys and girls, THIS is a hero. Not Lebron James, not George Clooney, not Bill Mahre or Kathy Griffin. This man!
Pfft- I bet this joker don't even have a blue check mark on twitter. What's he know?
Oh come on. Fighting guys who are trying to kill you and your buddies doesn’t compare to playing some kids game for millions.