Apple M3 MacBook Pro - Trick or Treat?

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  • čas přidán 30. 10. 2023
  • Thoughts on the M3 MacBook Pro refresh
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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D  Před 6 měsíci +1087

    🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃

    • @adriansote
      @adriansote Před 6 měsíci +48

      Happy Birthday! 😊😊

    • @alptaken_
      @alptaken_ Před 6 měsíci +19

      it's like Apple scared us with that 8 gigs of RAM.

    • @leonardocastaneda904
      @leonardocastaneda904 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Happy Birthday man!

    • @rishantdarnal8200
      @rishantdarnal8200 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Happy Birthday Dave!! Love you bro!

    • @asm_jk
      @asm_jk Před 6 měsíci +1

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
      Fun title too :D

  • @finlay2299
    @finlay2299 Před 6 měsíci +3329

    bros hair is majestic

  • @TechThusiast
    @TechThusiast Před 6 měsíci +1707

    8gb on a Pro model is definitely a cop out.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Před 6 měsíci +236

      For $1600, 8 GB of RAM is inexcusable in 2023, especially in 2023!

    • @dfgatorfan
      @dfgatorfan Před 6 měsíci +83

      It's a total joke for a "pro" model and makes the thing obsolete the moment it is built for any meaningful work.

    • @GerardoTostado
      @GerardoTostado Před 6 měsíci +67

      Shameless. Tired of companies treating consumers like cows

    • @qwertyuser8541
      @qwertyuser8541 Před 6 měsíci +30

      Just get a 16gb then, problem solved. If u can't that's your issue.(JOKE😂)
      Buying apple devices became a luxury(like rollce royce or a tesla) a long time ago😢

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Před 6 měsíci +19

      @eltostado85 Then buy a Framework Laptop 13 or 16. Don't buy any a laptop company that pulls an Apple or is Apple.

  • @Rivs5117
    @Rivs5117 Před 6 měsíci +362

    Happy Birthday Dave 🎉
    A $1,600 laptop with only 8GB RAM and no Space Black option is a hell to the no.

    • @arlencarlson
      @arlencarlson Před 6 měsíci +3

      If they put Space Black on the regular M3 model I would be more interested in it. Or even Midnight like the Air.

    • @christianl3592
      @christianl3592 Před 6 měsíci

      The way apple justifies it is that it’s a 13 pro replacement with 120hz screen, 512 Ssd, hdmi, and sd card reader. Just 300 bucks more!

    • @DarthAwar
      @DarthAwar Před 6 měsíci +5

      Yes in 2023/2024 16GB should be the base RAM Starting Level for any Laptop $900+ and no Laptop regardless of cost should be less than 6GB these days RAM is cheap even if they have to go with a slower RAM or Older Gen RAM to reach cost, Then again any laptop over $500 should be 1TB Storage Apple still releases Macs/Macbooks with 256GB as a starting point on a $500+ Laptop or Mac Mini I mean WTD

    • @RH-nk7eo
      @RH-nk7eo Před 6 měsíci +6

      Preach! 16GB minimum on anything that dares to have Pro in the title

    • @DarthAwar
      @DarthAwar Před 6 měsíci

      I would Argue for a Pro Device 64GB Minimum of the Highest Speed ECC RAM for a Pro device as Rendering or Coverting is RAM & GPU Intensive Tasks also They can not Afford for Data to become Corrupted even if they 3,2,1 Back Up it is wasting time too find the device it's on and transfer (or download!) and start all over again it's wasted time that most PRO's can not afford@@RH-nk7eo

  • @mitchjames9350
    @mitchjames9350 Před 6 měsíci +56

    They cut the memory bandwidth of the Pro from 200 gbs to 150 gbs. They also cut the Max bandwith from 400 to 300 for the 11, 12 and 14 core cpu variants.

    • @ncard00
      @ncard00 Před 6 měsíci +2

      But if more ram doesn't affect real world application and game performance, it doesn't make sense to put more in there. Remember, the very fast SSD's are just as cache instead, and the ARM architecture is so much more efficient, in terms of performance per watt, compared to x86, that it makes up for the lower amounts of ram. So please look up specific benchmarks or tests for your specific workload/usecase, and see if more ram is a benefit, instead of just judging the 8gb as always being too low.

    • @Pyrrho_
      @Pyrrho_ Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ncard00 I use VMs. 8 GB is too low.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ncard00 depends on your workload, if it’s for basic stuff than 8gb would be good enough. But for a Pro Apple should be giving us an increase not a decrease in bandwidth.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@ncard00 wouldn’t using the ssd to much shorten it’s longevity, why should the ssd be used as cache when it’s the job of ram to do all of that.

  • @fredrickbambino
    @fredrickbambino Před 6 měsíci +1458

    Boggles my mind that a 1600$ device is considered an entry level model. Pro or not.

    • @alpenjodel24
      @alpenjodel24 Před 6 měsíci +122

      Yea especially because everywhere but in North America it's even more expensive. 2000€ in Europe.

    • @naavidmorshed5516
      @naavidmorshed5516 Před 6 měsíci +26

      ​​@@alpenjodel24hey, why is it more expensive in Europe? Is it the tax? I got the 16 gb 256 SSD m1 air for 1240$ from Bangladesh after 7 months of launch. 2000 euro is no joke, that's like 2100 dollars. Wtf

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r Před 6 měsíci +56

      ​@@alpenjodel24the tax is already is included in Europe, in US your probably buying it around 1717$USD or around $1800USD

    • @dannymartial7997
      @dannymartial7997 Před 6 měsíci +49

      It’s entry level PRO model… If you’re poor, the M1 Air still exists.

    • @Jst4vdeos
      @Jst4vdeos Před 6 měsíci +120

      @@dannymartial7997it's not pro with 8gb ram.... Or a M3 regular chip. Apple forgot what pro means.

  • @paulkim321
    @paulkim321 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Happy Birthday, Dave!!!! Appreciate all your videos and thanks for all the years you've been on CZcams!!!

  • @ravibhatt6008
    @ravibhatt6008 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Happy Birthday Dave ! Thank you so much for sharing accurate and to the point details of all new tech. Wish you an amazing year ahead :-)🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @parkeraurand4145
    @parkeraurand4145 Před 6 měsíci +774

    Im just excited because M1 is still REALLY good and now it's going to be even cheaper

    • @iansteelmatheson
      @iansteelmatheson Před 6 měsíci +73

      yeah, recently helped my dad choose an M1 Air for my mum to replace her old ipad. phenomenal device for most people.

    • @mike__durrett
      @mike__durrett Před 6 měsíci +3

      Exactly!!

    • @darkmattterr
      @darkmattterr Před 6 měsíci +19

      i have an m1 pro macbook and it constantly crashes even tho i only do light video editing and audio stuff in apples own apps (fcp and logic). and if it’s on battery power it’s extremely laggy in fcp

    • @tharunreddy24
      @tharunreddy24 Před 6 měsíci +51

      Apple hasn't dropped the M1 Macbook Air price in 3 yrs, it just made the others expensive. So, fingers crossed abt M1 getting cheaper.

    • @nommchompsky
      @nommchompsky Před 6 měsíci +6

      I'm looking forward to the m3 being put into mac minis and macbook airs. The used prices on those is already surprisingly low, they'll be a bargain once they're "out of date"

  • @user-cj6dc9cb1j
    @user-cj6dc9cb1j Před 6 měsíci +10

    It's been years, I literally wait to watch your thoughts on these kind of products because your shown points are so precise and short.
    Thanks for your videos.

  • @quartyc
    @quartyc Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday, Dave. Big fan. And amazing lighting this time. Lovely!

  • @nickhollay9388
    @nickhollay9388 Před 6 měsíci +387

    I honestly want to switch my laptop from Windows to Macbooks because of how effficent M chips are, but they gotta be smokin something with these prices and configs. I feel like M1 was an actual value, and the prices have gotten insane this year. 400$ for a 2TB SSD upgrade is INSANE. 2TB SSDs are 100$ right now

    • @geometrist_
      @geometrist_ Před 6 měsíci +19

      get the macbook air m3 with 16gb ram. dock it and use it as a desktop

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 Před 6 měsíci +57

      Like he said, Intel Meteor Lake is coming out in 6 weeks and its supposed to be extremely efficient! Apple went all in on their own chip design when Intel struggled so they had a headstart but I have no doubt a dedicated focused chip company like Intel will at least some periods get ahead of Apple again. That moment might be with Meteor Lake

    • @mohamedredaelmeallem4780
      @mohamedredaelmeallem4780 Před 6 měsíci +25

      Qualcom will in 2024 launch own Chips which are too powerful and efficient. They were able to solve the efficiency issues that Intel could not solve. However M silicon also a very powerful chip and efficient. Either you choose, you will be happy.

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@mohamedredaelmeallem4780 Meteor Lake is way better lmao. Qualcomm has nothing on Intel

    • @GlobalWave1
      @GlobalWave1 Před 6 měsíci +23

      @@maxjames00077I doubt intel will come out with something as powerful and efficient as the M3 processors this December.
      They might be fast but not efficient or efficient and not as fast. I mean it’s Intel, they aren’t exactly known for being efficient one bit.
      I think this will take them in the right direction but let’s wait and see.

  • @ziyon25
    @ziyon25 Před 6 měsíci +20

    "8 PM, a PM for every gig of ram they're including"
    💀 happy birthday Dave!

  • @checkedshorts
    @checkedshorts Před 6 měsíci

    So much appreciate the format of your videos. Happy b-day, man!

  • @midnight_yota
    @midnight_yota Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave 🎉🎉🎉 we appreciate your thoughts always

  • @BrianPhoto
    @BrianPhoto Před 6 měsíci +64

    Happy bday Dave! You and Marques are on my Bell icon list! Thanks for content

  • @12nodnaes
    @12nodnaes Před 6 měsíci +10

    happy birthday dave! thanks for all the amazing videos🎉🎉🎉

  • @ShivEshan-do5vb
    @ShivEshan-do5vb Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Belated Birthday Dave 🥳 Thank you for being so honest "inside-out" 🙌

  • @NoName-fn6ee
    @NoName-fn6ee Před 6 měsíci

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY I am thankful to have you and your channel enjoying amazing content!

  • @sushantkumar8879
    @sushantkumar8879 Před 6 měsíci +27

    Dave your analysis is on par every single time ….Looking forward to see more of your opinions

  • @thomasmwangi8136
    @thomasmwangi8136 Před 6 měsíci +183

    What I appreciate about Dave is that he's the most knowledgeable PC reviewer I know but he doesn't try to come off sounding smart, doesn't use techy jargon, just plain simple takes, and really personal thoughts that you can tell he mulled over. I've watched at least 10 reviews today on this M3 business and this one is the one I really wanted. So thanks for making it dude.

    • @evacody1249
      @evacody1249 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Nexus Gamers, Hardware Unboxed, Jayztwocents, and Techdeals.

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@evacody1249 GN and J2C don't review PCs, they review components. And J2C is a nice compliment to other reviewers for his colorful commentary, but he's wrong a lot.

    • @rrsharizam
      @rrsharizam Před 6 měsíci +4

      Bought OnePlus 7 Pro because Dave endorsed the brand in many of his videos. As soon as I bought it, the phone went downhill. I wish I didn't watch his video.

    • @thomasmwangi8136
      @thomasmwangi8136 Před 6 měsíci

      @rrsharizam Hmmm....when was that phone released? 2019? and 4 years later you're still here watching his videos coz he's such a terrible reviewer and you can't look away? Right.

    • @thomasmwangi8136
      @thomasmwangi8136 Před 6 měsíci

      @@evacody1249 You're 100% making my point. Thanks

  • @mohamedlabbit6780
    @mohamedlabbit6780 Před 6 měsíci

    happy birthday and thank for being our laptop guide for the past years , and continue on that

  • @4nupam
    @4nupam Před 6 měsíci +47

    Belated Happy Birthday Dave, THE most honest & relatable tech reviewer on CZcams! 🎂🎉 Keep up the awesome work mate 🙌

  • @belowocean
    @belowocean Před 6 měsíci +4

    happy birthday dave! You're still 25 in my heart

  • @devALLjapan
    @devALLjapan Před 6 měsíci +4

    I think I am liking the black option. I think that’s pretty cool. Ive never owned an apple laptop and it will be a few years probably before I am ready to put the money in for it. So I’m excited to see how things are gonna look in a few years time when I am ready to buy my first Mac
    Also I think comparing it to the intel machines makes sense because that's the market which they are trying to encourage to buy.

  • @TidTech
    @TidTech Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday. Looking great. Also this coverage was succinct and on point. Well done.

  • @engineering_guy
    @engineering_guy Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hi Dave. Hope you are having an awesome birthday! Happiest Birthday wishes to you! Thanks for all the reviews!

  • @workhardforit
    @workhardforit Před 6 měsíci +288

    My thoughts exactly during the keynote:
    “What? Pro machine? $1600? 8GB RAM? what the hell Tim Apple, that’s so low. Disgusting.”

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 6 měsíci +5

      My £2050 Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 had 8GB/256GB base config. Where were you when that was reviewed? Do you just pop your head up when you want to complain about Apple?
      By the way, the base M3 MB Pro 14 is an ultrabook, not a Pro machine, which sadly people have failed to understand. The Pro models are the M3 Pro and Max!!!

    • @islowclick
      @islowclick Před 6 měsíci +23

      ⁠@@andyH_EnglandDam I didn't know Samsung made laptops until you said it just now

    • @PSy84
      @PSy84 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@islowclickdont worry…most Samsung fans dont even buy that and just buy Dell or Legion anyway if Windows

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc Před 6 měsíci +2

      Buy a Windows laptop instead. The 14" MBP $1600 model is basically replacing the 13" model. To be fair, 8GB of unified RAM is better than bridge connected RAM on other systems. The downside, of course, is that if you want more RAM - that's a different chip.

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Right? My phone has 16 GB of RAM and it was like $550. RAM isn't that expensive today, it is just a marketing trick from Apple.

  • @mike__durrett
    @mike__durrett Před 6 měsíci +24

    HBD Dave! 🎃8 GB of RAM on a Pro device is definitely a trick, lol.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr Před 6 měsíci +1

      And 256GB storage is also a trick in 2023/4

    • @sciencepowerpoints
      @sciencepowerpoints Před 6 měsíci

      not a trick but pretty disrespectful

    • @naim3968
      @naim3968 Před 6 měsíci

      @@azenyr Its 512 gb on the base model at least

  • @francisyuweh706
    @francisyuweh706 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday and thanks for the video, keep it up and blessings always!

  • @XHItube
    @XHItube Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for this video!
    Also, something I haven't seen mentioned: they haven't actually decreased the pricing of the Pro entry model, but actually increased it by removing the 13" option.

    • @rocckyman729
      @rocckyman729 Před 6 měsíci +1

      isn't that what he talked about in the video?

  • @laststrand69
    @laststrand69 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday, Dave!
    May the upcoming tech products *always* leave a lasting impression on your face

  • @jpracing893
    @jpracing893 Před 6 měsíci +58

    Really interested to see the M2 Pro vs M3 Pro, as it has a reduction of P Cores (M2 Pro 8 P cores M3 Pro 6 P cores) Plus a reduction in memory bandwidth.

    • @RidwanGosal
      @RidwanGosal Před 6 měsíci

      I wouldn't worry too much about M3 pro P cores count since their E cores r practically clocked similar to last Gen P cores. And where did you get the info that M3 Pro has reduced memory bandwidth? I'm seeing near 50% faster memory bandwidth on cpu monkey.

    • @cjeelde
      @cjeelde Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's on the Tech Specs page for MBP14 M3.
      M3 = 100 GB/s (probably for the binned as well, not confirmed by Apple but I guess 100 GB/s)
      M3 Pro (both) = 150 GB/s (not 200!)
      M3 Max binned = 300 GB/s (not 400)
      M3 Max = 400 GB/s
      The retail MBP14 M3 Max is a binned M3 Max so less CPU cores and less GPU cores.
      So CPU cores
      M3 std 4 HP / 4 HE, 100 GB/s
      M3 Pro 5 / 6 (binned), 150 GB/s
      M3 Pro 6 / 6, 150 GB/s
      M3 Max 10 / 4 (binned), 300 GB/s
      M3 Max 12 / 4, 400 GB/s
      For those who are looking forward to Mac Studio M3, this machine's retail base model got binned Max chips both for M1 and M2. M3 Max will most likely be the binned version but you can get the real M3 Max for more money (on Apple Store). It's VERY likely. But let's wait for the launch and see which configurations we will get.

  • @frizzellorri6193
    @frizzellorri6193 Před 6 měsíci +3

    seeing so much color in your studio is definitely THE halloween scare

  • @vedantdeshpande1695
    @vedantdeshpande1695 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave 🎂 Always love your content

  • @David_Cabrita
    @David_Cabrita Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks Dave for this short but very informative video! I do agree with what you say

  • @linkfang9300
    @linkfang9300 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Happy to see Intel is finally going to offer some thing wild and Snapdragon X Elite also joints the competition, looking forward to see some comparison among those 3

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Před 6 měsíci +28

    Dave having birthday on Halloween gotta be one of the most majestic bdays ever, happy halloween bday

  • @mihirpatel6614
    @mihirpatel6614 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!!! Wish you great year ahead and keep making the awesome tech videos :)

  • @crispychres
    @crispychres Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday man! Keep up the good work as always!

  • @antoniotarin
    @antoniotarin Před 6 měsíci +34

    Hi Dave! I also think Apple has felt the pressure from the recent Qualcomm announcement of the Snapdragon X chips, developed by ex-Apple engineers.

  • @JimmyD76
    @JimmyD76 Před 6 měsíci +98

    I'm with you on the 8 GB RAM at this price point. This is the kind of thing that just keeps me from using Apple. I'm sitting here with a $700 ASUS ZenBook that does WAY more than my $1600 MB Air with the same RAM and Storage. And now they want to launch a product at $1600 with 8 GB RAM? I'll yell it for you Dave... COME ON APPLE!!!

    • @onewhoisaboveall
      @onewhoisaboveall Před 6 měsíci +3

      yeah but majority of people dont buy apple for the value or capabilites. heck most probably dont even know what ram does. its to flex. you have to admit their products are a beauty compared to pcs and android whch look clunky. even overpriced avg air headphones outsell superior sony headsets. add that the brand marketing with celebrities and athelets. apple has created this luxury good type of image...heck hermes even makes like a $5000 wrist band for the apple watch. and their ecosystem is hands down the best. with all that. no matter how bad the reviews are or how over priced the products...people wait in lines before stores open and online orders sell till theres like months wait list.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 6 měsíci +3

      I know four family members with MacBooks, all use 8GB versions and mainly use them as fancy Chromebooks. None of us have issues with 8GB. The problem with the YT tech bubble, which is a minority, is that they do not understand that many people would rather save $200 with 8GB than have 16GB only and never use it!

    • @lucas_sg
      @lucas_sg Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@andyH_Englandas if "many people" would rather have 512GB of SSD storage than save some $200 or so as well :)

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 6 měsíci

      @@lucas_sg I would prefer Apple to knock $100-$200 off the M3 MB Pro 14 and give a 256GB SSD instead. I have been fine with my 256GB as I use the cloud for all my stuff and only use about 40GB of storage.

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc Před 6 měsíci

      @@onewhoisaboveall Agreed. People that whine about the specs are obviously WinTel people.

  • @U2haveaniceday20
    @U2haveaniceday20 Před 6 měsíci

    Dave Awesome point Also 128 devices have been released with more than this. I give it credit for their Chips but they have to bump up the rest as well. I am glad you mention it.Awesome work as usual. Thanks for sharing ✌️💯

  • @riklaunim
    @riklaunim Před 6 měsíci +5

    You should do side by side with one of this year's Chinese gaming handhelds/GPD Win Max2 that offer up to 64GB RAM in much smaller form factors :D Also AMD in mobile is doing nicely. Apple vs new Intel, new AMD, new Qualcomm :) Strix Halo may be interesting.

  • @PunitChawla
    @PunitChawla Před 6 měsíci +9

    I've started to care less and less every year. Not sure if I'm the only one who feels this.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Před 6 měsíci +5

      No, you're right. Apple is pricing out people unless they're willing to sacrifice basic functionality to get their hardware. Like, why can't I use more than 1 external display unless I pay for the M3 Pro!? Why can't I upgrade my storage or replace it when it fails? And why can't I use my old iMac as an external display.
      It's of course because of money 💰.

  • @fmulleady
    @fmulleady Před 6 měsíci

    I love the opening halloween graphic and headline. Dave is a truly brilliant CZcams critical tech reviewer

  • @theEDMdragon
    @theEDMdragon Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy birthday Dave!
    Also I totally agree, the 8gigs in a base “pro” is such a scam 😅

  • @TheBardsCorner
    @TheBardsCorner Před 6 měsíci +13

    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for this video, I love how you share your unbiased opinion to the rest of us.
    What do you think of the reduction in memory bandwidth in the M3 Pro (200 > 150 Gbps) and M3 Max (binned) (400 > 300 Gbps)?
    Chip upgrades are much more expensive than in the M2 generation. I was pointing to a binned M2 Max with 32gb of UM and 2TB of SSD and it was € 4500. Now, binned M3 Max with 36gb of UM and same SSD is € 4850 (consider that it has lower memory bandwidth). This is truly bad…
    Finally, why does the binned M3 Max supports either 36 or 96GB of UM while you need the top model to get 48, 64 or 128?
    I hope this will be explained.

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid Před 6 měsíci +1

      Apple insane pricing strikes again.
      Why though? It's never worth that, not in a million years!

    • @pauldzim
      @pauldzim Před 6 měsíci

      Wow, glad I bought an M1 Pro (200 Gbps 16MB) for $1800 recently!

  • @patrickpnatividad
    @patrickpnatividad Před 6 měsíci +8

    Totally agree that I was duped by the 1599 pricing. I really thought it was a price reduction of the base 14" which had 16 GB RAM and 512 SSD. What a stupid move.

  • @sshine1018
    @sshine1018 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for genuine review ever. Most of those things keep me away from Mac as my personal productive machine. Thanks Dave

  • @stephanemignot100
    @stephanemignot100 Před 6 měsíci +5

    The most impressive thing of this keynote was the "Shot on iPhone" at the end

  • @NKHSP
    @NKHSP Před 6 měsíci +16

    M3 pro at 1999 is killer deal regarding it's performance boosts , now has 18gb ram and 11 core cpu, 18 core gpu , that's the real deal imo. either buy this or save all your money and buy $800 m1 air

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The M1 air is good enough for 95% of users. (Unless you need to do heavy video editing or something similar)

    • @sotonin
      @sotonin Před 6 měsíci

      @@jackwilson5542 And the M1 Pro Max is good for power users and for anybody else the M1 Pro is good for the remainder of users.
      basically. M1 is the best computer for pretty much most of the planet.

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 Před 6 měsíci +1

      M2 Pro is the better deal. Also full 200Gb/s and not crippled.

  • @MikuShyam
    @MikuShyam Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave..!!🎂🎂 Wish You A Wonderful Day

  • @newtonwonghk
    @newtonwonghk Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday Dave! Love you - Hong Kong

  • @apl175
    @apl175 Před 6 měsíci +12

    I tried to go back to a Windows PC - and the thing I miss the most from my MBP - is the speakers. The audio quality of workstation class laptop PCs is leaps and bounds behind an even 3 year old Macbook Air.

    • @laur6405
      @laur6405 Před 6 měsíci

      Some gaming laptops tend to have good speakers. I have an M1 Macbook air and a Lenovo Legion Y740 and the speakers are not that far from the Macbook. Downside of the gaming laptops is they're heavier and the batteries don't last long

  • @fitzman7
    @fitzman7 Před 6 měsíci +7

    What do you think about this?
    The past few days before the Apple event last night, I've heard several people mention and point out that it looks like Apple is doing things the way they are to get back to delivering devices on a yearly basis. For one, Apple's stock holders got after them recently, and second, because Apple was forced to deliver products on approximately a 1 & 1/2 year cycle their competition had time to catch up to them. (Like Intel)
    Regardless, it does make more sense to be on a one year cycle since they've been able to do that for years prior to 2020. They have the M3, M3 pro and max chips out for the MBP's in the fall, then get the MBA's out in the spring so that new college students can buy a laptop before going to school after summer, and finally the devices on the Ultra chipset comes out in the summer before the cycle starts all over again. It's not a far fetched notion as again, this would allow for buyers to better know when and schedule upgrading when they needed a new device (whether to wait til the new model came out if it was coming up or if not then buy the current/"older" model).

  • @joelconolly5574
    @joelconolly5574 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Happy birthday Dave. May you be granted a great Hallows Eve.
    Also the Mac currently doesn't seem to target performance, rather compatibility still. Maybe M4 or M5 it'll get some kind of jump in overall performance.

  • @gamespot641
    @gamespot641 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday to you Dave2d
    I have watched your review since you’re young now you’re getting older 😊
    Good luck 🍀 Dave2d

  • @AtrayeeChatterjeeSaysHi
    @AtrayeeChatterjeeSaysHi Před 6 měsíci +5

    Happy Birthday, Dave! Love your unbiased insights, as usual, the 8GB RAM is absolutely criminal! Would more game developers be interested in catering to mac users with the current GPU upgrades? 🧐

    • @luke.......
      @luke....... Před 6 měsíci +2

      I dont think that performance is the big issue here but rather the payoff for developing games for mac is probably not that high

  • @tonirosania7617
    @tonirosania7617 Před 6 měsíci +9

    You haven't mention the SSD price... insane!

  • @Xphil36
    @Xphil36 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!! 🎂🥳🎉🎊

  • @nikhildhameja
    @nikhildhameja Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday dave🎉🎂 keep up the awesome work 🙌

  • @bob_smite
    @bob_smite Před 6 měsíci +8

    I think the event came out as response to Snapdragon X Elite processors for Windows on Arm. Both energy efficiency charts compared to a 12 core Intel laptop which is interesting. Did Apple know beforehand?

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 6 měsíci +1

      That is a misnomer as the Snapdragon is not due out for 9 months, so Apple could have taken its time releasing the M3. More likely due to Intel's 14th gen arriving soon.

    • @lexomoniyi
      @lexomoniyi Před 6 měsíci

      Apple has always operated as if other companies/OEM’s don’t exist lol everything they do is based on how and when they want to do it.

  • @trustnugget280
    @trustnugget280 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Happy birthday Dave!
    Thanks for your unbiased analysis as always. 1600$ for 8gb of RAM is even for apple standards a let down. And for them to compare M3 with M1 (and as you said even the intel macbooks) is a cheap and obvious marketing strategy that I think they should get called out for. Like that is a bad yet deceptive marketing strategy that doesn't deserve to be used.

    • @rileypeterson9090
      @rileypeterson9090 Před 6 měsíci

      I can't help but wonder if they used that strategy because they didn't get a lot of people to leave M1 for M2. Maybe they feel that M1 was so good, they are having a hard time converting people to take the leap towards the next generations?

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc Před 6 měsíci

      @@rileypeterson9090 Very few upgrade from M1 to 2 or 2 to 3. Same on the Intel path - rarely would anyone go from 10th to 11th gen. The latest bump is even worse - from 13th to 14th is basically pointless. I think that's why most of their comparisons focused comparing against the last Intel based Mac instead of previous M-series. M1 to 3 might be worth it for some - but it really depends on the use case. Honestly, I'm more keen on the hardware supported AV1 codec than anything else about M3.

  • @khoifoto
    @khoifoto Před 6 měsíci

    hey! happy birthday and thank you for being an essential part of my daily tech video.

  • @rabgiologist
    @rabgiologist Před 6 měsíci

    Straight to the point. Love it. Thanks, Dave!

  • @chickenmuffin
    @chickenmuffin Před 6 měsíci +3

    Actually I think the 8GB intro model is great. Honestly SO many people want the pro just for the better display and speakers and will use it as a CZcams machine.

  • @Dougartus
    @Dougartus Před 6 měsíci +3

    I feel the driving factor to this special Apple event was the "shot on iPhone". They went through the effort to produce this content on an arguably minor announcement, so if the "shot on iPhone" flopped they could make this announcement in a different media form.

  • @arielfurmston4573
    @arielfurmston4573 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday!! great video as always! thx

  • @maximilianovilla_
    @maximilianovilla_ Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday, Dave 🎉 You're awesome

  • @erictingkingco2746
    @erictingkingco2746 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Yeah you're right.
    A $1600, with a RAM same as an iphone.

    • @sotonin
      @sotonin Před 6 měsíci

      Not a very good comparison... an iPhone 15 Pro Max is $1200-1600.... so whats your point? both are expensive and both have 8GB ram..... though I agree... 8GB on a PRO laptop is stupid. just no need to compare to iphones which are also expensive

  • @ArthurGrant172
    @ArthurGrant172 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Happy Halloween 🎃👻🍬🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 I Hit $100k today thanks for the insight and nuggets you thrown my way i started with $14k this June

    • @jeanicecolson378
      @jeanicecolson378 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Happy Halloween costume🎃👺👘

    • @DonaldCruz928
      @DonaldCruz928 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Inspiring! Do you think you can give me some advice on how to invest in a healthy way as you are doing?

    • @DonaldCruz928
      @DonaldCruz928 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Halloween 🎃👻🍬

    • @MartaJavi472
      @MartaJavi472 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I would really love to know how much work you did put in to get to this stage.

    • @AjaySingh57667
      @AjaySingh57667 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

  • @jacopogiuliani
    @jacopogiuliani Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!🎉🎂

  • @RealLifeTech187
    @RealLifeTech187 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy Birthday Dave 🎉

  • @JuanFmTech
    @JuanFmTech Před 6 měsíci +15

    Funny how The 14” mackbook pro with M3 pro chip has less cpu gpu cores 1, 4 respectively and 25% less memory bandwidth than the previous m2 pro,
    with the discounts for m2 pro not being the new one and the downgrades of the new m3 pro model that would probably only be 10% faster but % wise more expensive than the m2 pro
    M2 pro its way better value

    • @RimZeime
      @RimZeime Před 6 měsíci

      Not entirely how it works but okay

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 6 měsíci +1

      I would wait to see the performance as it is not always about core count or bandwidth.

  • @zero_O0
    @zero_O0 Před 6 měsíci +16

    Apple this time really stripped down too many things in M3 Pro:
    1) Memory bandwidth down from 200Gb/s to 150Gb/s
    2) less GPU cores compared to previous SoC
    3) Also transistors count from 40 Billion to 37 billion
    I am not any kind of semiconductor expert but In my knowledge it doesn't make sense. Any explanation will be appreciated.

    • @destroyerofsimps6574
      @destroyerofsimps6574 Před 6 měsíci +1

      The m3 chip is faster so even with those reductions it's still faster so not as much of those are needed.

    • @alpenjodel24
      @alpenjodel24 Před 6 měsíci +10

      The answer is probably chip binning. 3nm tech is quite hard to pull off, a lot of these chips basically come out partly defect and can't be used for higher end models. The raw compute power is still higher, because the functioning part of the chip is faster than before. That's why they can still use it as their mid-tier chip. But less bandwidth is always a sign for bad yields in the factories because they have to deactivate parts of the chip.

    • @youtubeenjoyer194
      @youtubeenjoyer194 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Problems of TSMC’s low quality N3B yields. It will be improved in next year with N3E process. That’s why Snapdragon sticks with 4nm for their 8 Gen 3

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 6 měsíci

      They had to make a lot of changes due to the low 3nm yield. This has meant the improvements expected from 5nm to 3nm had to be watered down. Apple decided they already delayed the M3 a year and they could not wait longer, so did the best they could. The same with the Snapdragon X Elite, it could not get the efficiency cores to work well so rather than another delay they released with just 12 performance cores. It is not easy as we get to 3nm and people tend to expect too much.

  • @SwiftSystems1
    @SwiftSystems1 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Belated Birthday Dave!! 🎉

  • @paekaw
    @paekaw Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday Dave!! 🥳🥰

  • @chrikke
    @chrikke Před 6 měsíci +16

    "this year there wont be any tricks, just treats" - Tim Cook
    proceeds to launch a product for 1.599 with 8gb ram and 512 storages

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 Před 6 měsíci

      ...that outperforms most competitor's Flagship Windows Laptops.....

    • @chrikke
      @chrikke Před 6 měsíci

      @@goobfilmcast4239 whataboutism

    • @KryssN1
      @KryssN1 Před 6 měsíci

      haha you are so clueless@@goobfilmcast4239
      it outperforms them in battery life, laptops with 13gen H chips and any dedicated card are miles ahead.
      For this price you can get RTX 4090 in laptop, which is like 3x as fast as GPU in MBP M3 Max.

  • @Brad-cb2dt
    @Brad-cb2dt Před 6 měsíci +8

    Those 8GB options should at least be 12GB if not 16GB. $1600 with only 8GB is nuts.

  • @I4get42
    @I4get42 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!!

  • @postbreak
    @postbreak Před 6 měsíci +3

    Here's my theory... Apple only sells the higher ram configs themselves for the most part. There are some outliers like BH but anywhere else it's base model. The M1 and M2 base models had 16GB of ram, making them good to go for almost everyone. Now you're forced to go straight to Apple, cutting out Best Buy, Costco, etc from getting their margin from sales. Best buy won't sell you an M3 with 16GB of ram, only the next size up the M3 Pro because that base ram is 18GB.

  • @shubus
    @shubus Před 6 měsíci +11

    Definitely a TRICK. At the new HIGHER PRICES, I'll be passing on it.

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Higher prices? The prices are the same or lower than M1 Pro and M2 Pro. Unless you mean the $1,599 config, which can't be a price increase because it had no predecessor.

    • @aryanpareek770
      @aryanpareek770 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@rightwingsafetysquad9872For me, it's the successor of the 13 inch m2 macbook pro and a very costly one at that. They should've priced it a lot lower if they were going with 8gb ram and 256gb ssd as base model. It isn't worth a cent over 1500$.

  • @justrandomdm
    @justrandomdm Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!🎂

  • @tanujiyer
    @tanujiyer Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave! 🎉

  • @nf8721
    @nf8721 Před 6 měsíci +4

    8GB of RAM is laugable. I just upgraded my laptop from 16GB to 32GB for $40 because solidworks was eating up too much

    • @KryssN1
      @KryssN1 Před 6 měsíci

      You know that Windows laptops for 500$ have 16GB RAM for 1600$ you are looking at windows laptops with 32-64GB RAM and top end specs that run circles around M3 Max.
      It's just the battery life.

  • @sloth7d526
    @sloth7d526 Před 6 měsíci +4

    There's a reason Apple continues to increase prices and upsell, it's because PEOPLE STILL KEEP BUYING THEM!!!!!
    How people just throw money around without a care in the world blows my mind, not a single thought behind those buying decisions unfortunately

  • @MiragePhoto
    @MiragePhoto Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy Birthday 🎂, Dave !!!

  • @brettsolem
    @brettsolem Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great thoughts! Happy Birthday!

  • @vineetluthra
    @vineetluthra Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy Birthday Dave 🙂🎂👏

  • @dds4647
    @dds4647 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy birthday, ty for the vids!

  • @gps.nepali
    @gps.nepali Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday bro 🎊 🎉🎂🥳💐...Stay healthy, happy and keep up the good work.

  • @4kmentality
    @4kmentality Před 6 měsíci

    The video title is actually brilliant given the timing of everything 😂 I’m thoroughly (and apparently easily) impressed

  • @aatishx
    @aatishx Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave 🎂🎉... We ❤ u.

  • @kalpanaarora7214
    @kalpanaarora7214 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy Birthday Dave

  • @keerthang5557
    @keerthang5557 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!

  • @jalala.5208
    @jalala.5208 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy Birthday @Dave2D🎃! Stay blessed, happy and safe always💐🤲🏻 Keep posting detailed reviews🫶🏻👍🏻✌🏻

  • @porcu
    @porcu Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday to you Dave! It is also incidentally my birthday today. :)

  • @thesaralkumar
    @thesaralkumar Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave ❤

  • @davidgitau2926
    @davidgitau2926 Před 6 měsíci

    Happy Birthday Dave!🥳