I Installed A Bigger Turbo On My Turbo Diesel Mercedes & It's Awesome!
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2019
- We all need bigger turbos in our lives so I installed one, on my 40 MPG daily driver Turbo Diesel Mercedes. I plan on making big power with this car while keeping it 100% reliable and fuel efficient and this turbo is the key. I have Big plans for the 2005 E320 CDI so make sure to stay until the end to find out what is coming up next!
Big Price Update on the turbo. A few days after I put out this video Darkside reached out to inform me that the turbo would cost about double the price they had originally planned for and posted on their site. At the time of making this video, and for a few days after it came out the price was indeed $600. It is currently $1,150. I do not work for Darkside (obviously) and have nothing to do with pricing and this was a surprise to me too. They explained that there was an error when pricing out parts and production cost and it wouldn't be possible to sell them for $600 any longer. Sorry for the confusion and I'll keep everyone updated if the price changes.
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Big Price Update on the turbo price. A few days after I put out this video Darkside reached out to inform me that the turbo would cost about double the price they had originally planned for and posted on their site. At the time of making this video, and for a few days after it came out the price was indeed $600. It is currently $1,150. I do not work for Darkside (obviously) and have nothing to do with pricing and this was a surprise to me too. They explained that there was an error when pricing out parts and production cost and it wouldn't be possible to sell them for $600 any longer. Sorry for the confusion and I'll keep everyone updated if the price changes.
under $1200 is still a great price!
Cheaper to get a mani with a T3 flange and more options.
it sounds like you are dropping a leg of power call your provider to see if the power is ok on there end if it is check your neutral wires. your electrical meter will tell you everything
For 1200 there is still electronic control? You should check out Perun turbo...
I was going to buy one! Crap.... Probably still be worth it though... Thanks for using yours as a test bed. Been following this build with much anticipation.
This is the first diesel build I'm actually interested in, since it's not some mall-crawler lifted truck. Thanks for being different and not building a brodozer, Alex! Haha
same
About time thank you Rad. !??
Look up for JP-Performance. He had a diesel build where he put a Porsche turbo into a Golf 4 diesel.
Street/Racing Concepts not a “build” you just a turbo upgrade.
Sure, not quite yet... but you know how these types of things DO snowball! Case in point, the Trans Am lol@@msengineeringdavid3702
Man I dont even own a diesel or a Benz but I'm really enjoying these videos.
This is the first CZcams channel that actually wait every week and wake up in the morning before I go to work and refresh my CZcams about 3 or 4 times waiting for your video to be uploaded every week I wait for your video and the new Grand tour.. I'm excited to see e55 calipers calipers are coming soon and also what intercooler you would use and piping for intake
Thanks John! You are awesome!
LegitStreetCars I know u rarely reply to comments I check the website to the turbo and it can fit on my c220 w203 203 of 2003 , it’s the 115 hp ( re mapped 150 ps ) one I got , u think this turbo would be too much for my car ? Good idea to buy it or keep it stock ?
Yea for sure. You will need to add more fuel to take advantage of the turbo but it's a great add on
Absolutely LOVE these benz videos and the build. I get extra knowledge and enjoyment. That car is sounding great. Keep on brother! Also, a little prayer for your garage situation, hope all is well soon!
If you want more turbo noises ditch that plastic intake for a large diameter metal piece, the rubber dampens the sound more than you would think
Not only do I think there is more bass in the exhaust, but I believe that there is more turbo/induction noise watching your videos side by side!
I love the content, keep it going!
Very underrated channel
Great stuff Alex and thanks again for returning my email for the information i asked you about on how to get merchandise for my channel,it was very helpful,love my W210 E55 ,only reason i bought it was watching your videos!
This is a build I haven’t seen nor something i think I’d do but I love how intriguing it is, good job!
These are my favorite videos to watch on my lunch break.
Wow! I’m loving this build man! Keep up the great work
Very interesting videos I'm a diesel owner myself and it's great to see some one making a sleeper .
A diesel engine regulates it's power output by varying the AFR via injecting more or less fuel. If you simply cramp more air inside the engine and thereby increasing the Lambda value, the diesel engine (technically) doesn't care at all. You can go full throttle no problem with that new turbocharger. Theoretically the engine should run better and cooler as there is more oxygen available to completely burn the fuel and more inert gas in the cylinder which has to be heated. If the Turbo is more efficient than your old one you can expect another increase in power as a result of the increased force pushing on the piston during the induction stroke. injection timing is critical on a diesel engine though. It's the diesel's ignition advance if you want to compare it to a gasoline engine. But as long as you don't touch it, you can go full throttle with your new turbo without caring about it running leaner ;).
Awesome comment, thanks! I've been tuning my turbo LS for long I forget this stuff.
@@LegitStreetCars That turbo should lag more until you add fuel. I would be curious to see a 0-60 time and at what rpm it starts building boost before adding more fuel; I assume the tuning box has some sort of data logger inside so you can compare boost curves etc. I am also curious as to how a larger diameter turbine wheel interacts with the vanes in the turbine housing; I would assume there is an optimal distance between the vanes and the wheel and messing with that could compromise spool. Or it might not! Hope you post some more performance data as you go along.
Other than emissions, I was wondering the need for the wideband, there is no need to car about stoich. Watch out for EGP as well as EGT if you are going to go over 500hp.
It sounds surprisingly awesome for a diesel,keep up the great job !
Incredible what sound you get out of that CDI! That sounds a lot better than any stock diesel. Can't wait to see what you have in mind for the air intake silencer. I'm currently working on my w163 M113 Sound Induction Tube project, which I plan to port into the silencer plug of my air intake tube. Keep up the incredible progress!
Shout out to Darkside developments UK!! Excellent company.
Yes, I noticed that..... UK, not Europe! :D
@@garrywill-not-comply3073 thanks guys
I used to use them when I had my BMN engine Leon. They were the guys to go to with anything VW Audi group.
It sounds like your worried about "leaning out" the afr. Don't worry about it. If a diesel runs lean it won't make power because the fuel quantity injected is less then the minimum required to run not by having too much air. Think of a clogged fuel filter situation. It won't burn pistons or damage rings. Now too much fuel and not enough air will melt pistons and valves if it's run too hot for too long. Thats why you need an egt gauge so you don't melt it down. It sounds good and looks like it will be a rocket when it's done!
Thanks brother. I've always been a gas tuner so this part of diesel is new to me. Crazy the stuff you forget when you haven't been involved in it for a long time
@@LegitStreetCars lol yeah. I'm scared of my E55 running lean on #8. 80mm pulley, 82 throttle body and headers on stock fuelling lol. I'm really enjoying watching you progress through the hot rod diesel world! Tuning by afr is still a good method to tune for any engine. I would encourage some wot pulls. You probably see that you will have zero smoke compared to the old turbo which had a light haze. Light haze is still fine but it is power left on the table.
I learned something!
Yeah diesel AFRs are opposite effect as gas engines. Lean is Cool and Rich is Hot
Excellent music choice Alex, these 80's synth toned tracks are really a treat! :)
Super interesting diesel build and man your Videos are super detailed about information. Thumbs up for that!
Hi Alex! I have a 270cdi (C class), and my plans are the same as yours. I'm really happy to found your videos with this normal, daily conversion of a cdi. Its hard to find any build thread or videos like yours, with general, but important informations, because almost all MB diesel fanatics build OM606 engines. I like the simple style of your videos, and finally I found a channel where I can learn before I start to tune my black widow. Thanks a lot, and keep it up! Greetings from Hungary ;)
Thank you for your continued creativity and new projects. Always look forward to your Vlogs. Can’t wait to see you at the drag strip side by side with a muscle car with diesel exhaust smoking down the 1/4 mile!
Thanks Chris. I'm so pumped for the drag strip
Is anyone else shopping around for one of these cars?
I want one! I have 05 E500 and it needs a friend :D
Seeking online for one myself
LegitStreetCars nope, because I already bought one 😂🤣😂
Yes, W211 E320 CDI. Only issue is finding a good black on black vehicle
asdjfnljn3 yeah, I settled with silver on black, black on black is definitely the one to have though
So happy this came to my recommended videos just suscribed! Can't wait to see you build the E class.
great old school background music! Still hunting for my cdi so I can build one while I am watching yours...
Currently building a hybrid turbo for my Mercedes C250!! Thanks for explaining the concept once again in such a simple way :)
Great video Alex! Nice build on your Mercedes CDI!🐟
Keep posting videos of this diesel Mercedes! Badass car
Hi! I can't wait to do this to my E 320cdi T! Great job and great videos you make. Greetings from Switzerland
I've probably said this before, but I'm mainly a Japanese sedan fanatic, but I love watching your videos!
Kudos Alex! Another great CDi mod video. 2 thumbs up!!!
I love this series! I’m looking at my 320 wagon and thinking, oh yeah! More mods soon please Alex.
I've got a w210 300 Wagon Stashed away waiting for the summer, I'm hooked on this series aswell, lol.
Sweet - best project car channel going!
So tickled to see this new vid pop up in my queue today. I stumbled across your channel a couple weeks ago when searching for info on E63 chassis bmw’s. I think I’ve watched all of your videos already and was jonesing for another one! Very informative and entertaining content. I’ve been contemplating going the older euro luxury route so this info is really relevant for me. Thought I just wanted a 650i coupe but now I’m kinda liking the idea of an E55 sedan! Nice to see you showcasing some local shops out here in the burbs.
Thanks brother! Welcome!
Alex, head over to the Southside you can use my garage! Lou has the best deep dish and the music you played during the install was a great track!
you both can come over to my garage, so I can introduce you both to real pizza
Chicago does not have real pizza
You do good work glad I subbed man keep it up
Thanks brother. Appreciate that
i think it sounds louder slightly, love how it looks nice and pretty. I bet once tuned it will produce nice tq numbers! We have a VW Touareg TDI 3.0 V6 turbo it puts out 420 ft lbs out the box without a tune, cant wait to see what the tune will do!! Very cool CDI Alex. Makes an amazing daily, great fuel mileage and power on tap :)
With the new larger turbo sounds great! Can't wait until you add the rest of the package to her.
Another great video, Alex. I get tons of info from your videos about cars.
I only wish that you could make the videos even more detailed - less timelapse and more real time video with comments and instructions.
Thanks. Keep up the good work.
Fair play mate 👌 quite a big scene behind Mercedes diesel tuning. Nice to see it in the main stream now.
Loving the 80's background music!
Awesome, need to order one of those turbos soon! Awesome Alex!
Very nice video as always. Used to have a w211 2008 E300 Bluetec but without the adblue injection. Had 250t km on it when I had to sell it because of hail damage. Miss that car so much...
More turbo = more hrs-prs*. *Donut media , lol, nice video. I enjoyed it like all the others
Great job. I love seeing people put effort into used cars. Especially cars most are scared of.
Thanks!
Born and raise in the Chicago suburbs! Lou's is the best deep dish EVER, except I go for the spinach :D
I get the Lou as well. Love that one
Can't wait! As a dieselhead I'm really excited 😀
Good to know facts at the start of the video. Now we are best buddies basically.
Great work! I am really enjoying this project. Reminds me of my old B5 Audi A4 1.8T with a direct swap K04. Very similar tuning style as the CDI.
Great stuff Alex! At nearly 58 years old and a car fanatic my whole life and a big CZcams fan I grew tired of all the other car channels I had subscribed to especially the one with the guy that hides behind sunglasses. You keep it simple and have the best presentation by far with the most interesting content and that is why your channel is the only one I am subscribed to.
I own w203 220 cdi and its brutal,your must be a beast now! Great engines!!!
I am buying an 06 320 cdi with 197560 on the miles and thanks to you I checked for black death and there was none I am super excited I pick her up on April 1st and I will continue to watch
This reminds me of the dsm/ evo days with the FP Green turbos. Nice build 👌🏻
Awesome Alex. I just did all the filters and cleaned up the engine bay on mine and pulled the ecu for tune. Than going to do the downpipe after as well
LOVE VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!!! 👍🏿
Alex, I'm dumbfounded that you aren't hosting your own cable show by now. Professional!!
That would be awesome!
Sounds sick, can’t wait to see what the numbers are now
Really enjoy your videos. The car sounds great...
Awesome! Keep on going, it’s very interesting!
Awesome! Great video enjoy watching thank you
Nice! Certainly got me thinking 😁
Please could you explain more about what steps you're taking when actually doing? The video speeds up at all the good bits ;)
Love it. Have a nice day from the UK
While i'm looking at a 16 diesel, this vid pops up lol
Excellent info
Love the videos man especially of this car i want more vids of this car 👏👏👌
A genuine Legit Street Cars upgrade! Very cool. Great new content!
Thanks Will
Couldn’t have clicked faster. Thanks Alex!
Thanks Josh! Have an awesome weekend
looking at the E320 SW here in Italy 🇮🇹…always liked the sleek lines and QUALITY interiors and the way it moves down the road;-)
Don't waste your money making your hot side pretty. It's NEVER seen(HUGE heat shield and air filter box) but if you must then ceramic coat the hell out of it.
It sounds like a Cummins 6.7L I-6 under load . . . I FRIGGING LOVE IT.💖🤘😈
Great work, I'm really enjoying the DIESEL content, keep it coming. 👌✔💖👍
Nice, smooth background 🎼music too🎼.
P.S: What's that white flurry stuff falling from the sky ? 😁
Haha, let's not talk about that stuff falling from the sky. Should be gone in a month or 2
Hey Alex. Great videos. Well presented and excellent content. Time for a full engine bay sparkle clean on the Merc :) cheers grahame
It's awesome to see how far you've come since I first met you at that Doug Demuro. Doing a collab with a company, overseas nonetheless!
Sounds extremely good for a diesel 😍
I’m really enjoying the build and your channel rocks. Keep it up! Happen to notice the alternator is found under the turbo, is that right? Reason why I’m asking, do you have to remove the turbo to get to it, or can you get to the alternator from the bottom of the car?
HAte this channel :( .. Alex videos made me convince the wife to add an E320 cdi to the stable, but now I need to tell her I need a bigger turbo for it :/ ... lol, keep 'em coming Alex, loving the e320 CDI gobs of torque through the rpm's. Do I need big injector for the bigger turbo?
If It was not for very strict inspections we have to deal with here in Spain, I would definetly also modify my 530d E60. That's the beauty about the US, you can modify without so many restrictions.
Please keep those great vídeos coming! Very interested in buying an E55 AMG and your channel is very informative!👍
This is a great build!
Loving this project!
FWIW though, diesels are kind of opposite from what we are used to with turbo gasoline engines in terms of tuning. They ALWAYS run on the lean side of stoich, and the more air you add, the safer they get. It's actually when you start to add the fuel back in with the extra air that you make more and more torque (and smoke), and add stress to the engine. Too bad HP Tuners won't tune that year of Merc, it would be fun to play with. I could probably tune one on WinOLS, but that has so much pain involved it would ruin the fun, Lol. Loving the content!!
Man Alex, it's like Chiberia recently. Stay warm!
Great deal on the turbo! Could have spent double that for a new, bigger one.
The increased volume of air will bring the EGTs down if the fueling stays the same and increase the mpgs as well. Unlike a gasser, more boost is helpful as long as the turbo is in its most efficient operating range.
We have a Lou's in Phoenix!!! The brought it in a couple years ago. Gino's also put one up out here, but they shut down in a year. I am so glad we have real Chicago deep dish pizza here.
Darkside Developments are like the derv gods here in the UK. They were big supporters of the Rover-MGs back in the day, I’ve used them in the past for bits n bobs.
If you put your mufflers back on, and add an exhaust cut-out in downpipe, it would be hella' sleeper!
@@sonacphotos No. Electronic exhaust cut-out valve. Butterfly valve and it's electronicaly controlled(like electronic throttle body) via a switch. He presses the button, valve open, gasses go straight downpipe to air. Also less exaust pressure, turbo builds up boost faster. If the valve must be opened, because of exhaust pressure, it would not have any powergains at all. It's very good for sleepers. 3 inch downpipe going through stock exhaust would really be power sucking, but at exhaust downpipe through 3inch cutout straight to ground, also if pipe is cutted level-flat it would even add scavenging.
Screamer pipes are external wastegates, which have different pipe, and don't go to the same down pipe. Or internal wastegated turbo, which has downpipe with diverter and another pipe.
Diesels run vgt, vnt vanes,which control the boost.
I am from Europe and all i can say is that the 320 cdi on w211 is the best diesel engine you can buy. I am the owner of one and there is no problem with them what so ever. Cheers and love your vid... 🤙
Not even black death?
Can’t wait for more boost in the diesel!
Btw, you don't need to weld in a bung for an EGT probe. All you do is drill and tap the manifold, which can be done without removing it. Did it to my truck before I upgraded to a race manifold and bigger turbo. 👍
That car has a lovely “snarl” to it now, good job
Nice work great content !
$600 is a fair price for improved turbo, but $1,150 to me is out of the question! I own a 1983 300SD. I will just rebuild my turbo to stock condition. I don't have that kind of money to spend!
Liking this project Alex!
That intro though😂
Great video showing the potential of a diesel engine. I was wondering if its fine to install a bigger turbo on a diesel. Looks like it is. Did you compare the horsepower difference new vs old ? Less turbo lag as well??
Great build! Just subscribed!
Thanks! Welcome!
I really enjoy your videos, watched them all. I'd really love to get an E320 CDI but parts in Argentina are US price times 3
That car is SICK!
Nice turbo! I can’t wait to see it on the dyno.
You are the greatest man on the internet! I have a Mercedes ml 270cdi do you think this turbo would work? Thanks again!
sounds great! almost like a v8
Just bought a 05 cdi, 210k miles, black on black interior plus a Kleemann tune. This car is so much faster than my W210 E300TD!
we love it for sure
You are definitely the guy to ask. You have an awesome channel and straight info on the Merc brand. I have been scratching my head trying to get a light weight (relatively speaking) diesel engine for aircraft conversion. The OM629 V8 4.0 CDI looks like it might fit the requirements. It has room for bigger bore wet sleeves, I'm not sure about room for a stroked crankshaft? The balance shaft and offset crank journals are all better at spreading out torque pulses.
The question is, with a stand-alone ecu and all emissions components removed and disabled could it be reliable?