Why I still use the Roland TD-6 Electronic Drum Module in 2022
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- Check current prices of the TD-6 at reverb.grsm.io/td6. The Roland TD-6 is a great electronic drum module that was made in 2004, but still rocks in 2022! It may be old, but still sounds great and is cheap! Oh, btw I teach drums to students of all ages on Zoom (Google Duo)! Message me on IG @demonic_sweaters if you're interested. Get the Drum-less Library (to play drums to) anthillrecordings.bandcamp.co.... at Send me a tip at streamelements.com/demonicswe.... Follow Demonic Sweaters on Spotify open.spotify.com/artist/6FNgc...
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One thing I forgot to mention is the TD-6 also supports VH-11 Hi Hats!
Me too I'm excited.. new cymbals hi hats .a hi hat stand .
Looking at a couple TD-6 & TD-6V modules right now on Reverb for my DIY conversion project. Possibly also a TD-4? Although, I'd rather not rely on a proprietary cable snake for my build, so the TD-6 or 6V seems like the way to go for my meager budget and overall needs. I really gotta thank you once again Justin for all the helpful insight that your channel has provided me thus far. Other than my old 90's era Mapex Mars Series shell pack (22" kick & 12"/16" toms) I currently have two 13" Lemon cymbals (one triple zone & one dual), and am looking at also getting both their 15" and 18" real soon. I really can't praise the Lemon brand enough to be honest, and have actually reached out to Lemon USA just recently. I'm also considering getting one of the prebuilt Lemon 13" snares as they claim to offer "positional sensing", which I'm thinking would be very welcome upgrade from the basic dual zone snares I've owned prior?
That investment may ultimately come well after I suss out my build, module, and cymbals tho.
Anyhoo...
Thanks again soo much BTW Justin!
Seriously.
I'll be sure to let you know how my project is coming along as soon as I get everything initially up and running!
Stay awesome my dude!
Cheers!
Update: Just got a TD-6V for $150, and also just rigged up some hi-hats using a GoEdrum controller and an old Roland CY-8. Haven’t had time to test everything out yet, but so far I have two Lemon 13” cymbals (one dual, one triple) and a used Alesis 14” triple zone (one input). Looking to start testing everything with my Alesis mesh kit before I begin parting it out and selling it to make room for my A2E conversion. My Focusrite 18i8 has MIDI I/O so I can use EZDrummer as well as the TD-6V onboard sounds. Honestly? I think I made the right choice given my budget, and I can’t thank you more Justin for helping me along my journey!☺️
@@EasyHeat awesome!
🥰Thanks Justin! Just unboxed the TD-6V and the previous owner also packed a well organized/removable wrap around cable snake with all the original TRS cables & power unit! I honestly wasn't expecting that! Can't wait to start testing it out! Super Stoked! @@demonicsweaters
Hi there ! It's great to see you love a older drummodule. I'm still in love with my alesis dm10 module
Great well done Video! I still use mine to this day. Cheers👏👏👏👏.
I have a all mesh TD6 drum set and i was also thinking about upgrading the module, but actually the sounds are fine for practice and you are right the sound with music is cool.
Really good video, nice clear explanations and everything was very relevant and worthwhile, in particular I agree regarding the way some drum module kits sound quite ‘basic’ but play them with a backing track and suddenly they sound great, I’ve tried telling people
this so many times! Anyway, great vid and channel, -also found your video on the TD-8 useful as I have just linked one into my TD17, thanks! have subscribed 👍🎵🎶
Thank you very much!
Great video! Just got a td6 and this video really makes me want to play with it. Excellent drumming
Thank you!
Good vid! To start practicing drums at home I bought a full TD-6V rig a few years ago for only £200 (admittedly many parts where in bad condition and needed fixing or replacing). Over the years I and have found myself upgrading almost every part of the kit to make it better... except the module! I keep meaning to invest in a new module but have struggled to see the advantage and this video helps to explain why. It's a solid module, lots of great sounds and easy to use, I would also recommend it.
very cool!
I know this is way old but one huge advantage of some other modules is individual outputs atleast when playing live the foh engineer needs the ability to adjust the cymbals, toms, snare, and kick volume all separate from each other the T6 only has a left and right output sadly
@@ironblast5 Yes, agreed, that makes sense. I love this module but only use it at home to practise and to capture MIDI (e.g. for Superior Drummer etc). I don't feel like this old piece of kit (released 2003) would be a very good choice for a current live setup.
I have one TD-6V ! Very versatile module!
This is a wonderful video. I have been using the TD6V since 2003 or 2004. Twenty years!!! So, it spent some years in a box packed away. But, I was asked a few months ago to try a kick trigger to get more presence in a dance band...I said well let's try the ol TD6. The results were very pleasing blending it w my mic'd kick drum. This led to adding a snare trigger, which led to creating a hybrid kit...and I even used it to play on some records via MIDI out to ProTools and BFD samples. Now I have it hooked up in conjunction with my old pads, and live w/ the addition of an SPDS, a couple of acoustic triggers and a mic'd acoustic kit. THIS module stands the test of time. The MIDI in/out in it is priceless for some recording applications and this thing also has an internal sequencer which they STOPPED putting in their newer modules. That alone makes this a hot commodity for some applications. So anyway, cool video man, thanks for sharing!
yeah, they really are great modules. I still use mine for live triggering acoustics as well. It works great for that. Solid triggering, good sounds especially blended with real drums. I've never actually used the MIDI sequencer, but I should. It would be cool attempt to sequence a whole original song in there and play to it live.
TD-6 user here also. I take the splashes and lower the pitch and they sound amazing as crashes. Once you tweak the sounds you can really make it sound amazing. Nice channel!
Ooh, good tip! Been using my td-6 for probably 6 years, abs I ended up getting some zildjian gen16s to add on, using my Roland cymbals for splash and crashes, but I can’t find a good ride/bell sound. Might see where this gets me
I've been using a basic entry level pad/cymbal rig w/ an Alesis Trigger I/O into EZ/Superior Drummer for over a few years now and have finally decided to convert my old 90's acoustic Mapex shell pack to electric. Typically, (on entry level units especially) I've never liked any onboard module sounds ever, especially considering the price, but I must admit...
The more I look into the TD-6? The more it seems like exactly what I've been looking for!
I mean sure, I can still trigger Toontrack via 5-pin MIDI at home, but gigging? I'd much rather rely on something like a TD-6 that, even tho nearly over a decade old, is potentially way more stable, easier to load in, and doesn't sound awful.
Ha!
BTW?
Thanks Nata!
You've just helped be commit to my next piece of gear purchase for my conversion project!
I initially was thinking of more full size cymbals and a prefab snare, but I think ditching this old AF Alesis Trigger I/O really makes more sense at the mo'!
Cheers!
Not ashamed to say most of my knowledge on e-drums
I've learned from you ...
Taking your advice getting a td-6 for my Donner 200 thinking that's a good start for my upgrade 😉 then some better cymbals I'll keep checking for more ideas 💡
That's great! Very curious to know how the TD-6 does with the donner drums. Seems like it would be a very good fit. You may need a different hi hat pedal though.
This man went to the future
Thanks
Hey, great video. Would you be able to do a full tutorial on using the td6 and changing the settings? Would very much appreciate it 👍🏻
I did a live programming vid not too long ago czcams.com/video/WbRsFU1fW-Y/video.html. I'll make some more in the future as well. There's gonna be a TD-6 related vid out tomorrow as well.
@@demonicsweaters that's great thanks, I'll check out that video. I've had the td6 for years but was afraid to mess around with it 🤦🏻♂️
There are many old modules that have very good sounds, the TD 5 as you know also has some very good sounds, there is a set of toms on the TD5 that are fantastic. On the TD3 too, there are also some great crashes on the TD3 and many more.
Great info/ insight by a seasoned user.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I still use my td6v live on an a2e.i dbl up sounds like input 5 and 6 for my two toms with two more sounds from 7 and 8,2 triggers on my snare too.layering the sounds really makes this module next level.
hey, that's a good idea!
What is the magic formula for making two pads work in one input? I just can’t get it to work and the manual is very vague! I have the Roland splitter cable.
Thanks. You just saved me $$$xxx not buying a new Drum Module. I will go explore my TD-6 in more depth again!!
Is the only difference between the td-6 and the td-6v the tom imputs? I am looking to do an acoustic to electric conversion and was looking at this module. Eventually I will probably upgrade to something like a td-17 but I want to try to go as cheaply as possible first.
basically yes. There's a few more trigger presets in the 6v and it's black instead of blue, but they're essentially the same.
Aha! The video's title just proves what I've suspected all along: You're from the future!!
Drum module wars is one of the more annoying internet debates. My view is knowing the gear you have is way more important than having the newest, latest, best gear. With some small exceptions, if you know your way around your module, you can get it to sound like anything you want within reason. I have an Alesis strike pro module on a hybrid kit. I started watching videos about the TD27 and thought that if I got that I would somehow be a better and happier drummer. The reality is, the strike module is amazing and I I didn't give it time to learn it. Once I learned it (still learning it) I realized It is absolutely amazing and more flexible than I ever imagined. So ... know your gear, ignore internet marketing, and just play.Which means, if a TD-6 "outdated" module is working for you, then stay in that lane until you have to or want to move on!
After I bought the Roland TD 9 module I ask myself that question whenever I see your vídeos:
"Why do you use the TD6"
And now I'll watch the video :)
I have and use TD 6 and also the TD 6v. The 6v is compatible with my RT-5s RT-3t and RT-7k triggers. The TD-6 is not. If you have a video that goes through the calibration for your d-drum triggers that would be great if you can give me a link. Also need to know what your doing to your shells for muting the Acoustic resonant of the drum. If any? I’ve been trying to get a decent hybrid setup or a full muted just electronic version on my kit. Getting weird response from the triggers when I stuff the shells with foam. Not sure what’s going on.
The TD6 should still work with the RT5s, even if they don't have the presets. You just have to play with the settings to dial it in. It takes some time and patience.
Hi. I have a hand-me-down TD6, it was working fine until one point we forgot to switch off the power, then the display went haywire and the preloaded music disappeared too. :(
My son plays on this drum and he is really sad about it. Do you have any similar ecounters?
I haven’t, but if you lost the internal songs it could be a dead internal batter. Replace it and do a factory restore.
Dude! I'd love a link to your jams man that brief sample was mad!
Thanks man! Here's a Spotify Playlist open.spotify.com/playlist/2mg1Io7kEnWgZi9UBGLN3Q?si=67e70be3e2624f0e
I still using mine for recording
Great video. Thanks! I felt like I’m watching myself, lol, w regard to the buying piles of gear, lol. Same exact thing. It’s like a sine wave, lol. Buy a ton, sell a few, swear I’ll never do it again, then, do it again, and again and again, lol.
We need support groups
Have you played around with an expanded TD-20? It has everything you said was missing from the TD-6. It does have less sounds (about 800), but the COSM sound shaping system lets you create seemingly infinite variations.
No but I’d love to have one. I wish they did t have the screen issues
@@demonicsweaters that's the one frustrating part of owning a td20. Every few years I have to open up the module and disconnect/reconnect the display cable to remove the oxidation. Luckily I haven't had to fully replace the screen yet though. 🤞🏼
hey, just wondering, do you have a good reference for the various roland pad types so that you can use a non-roland kit but assign the proper type to your own pads?
Just experiment to see which one works best is what I always do.
@@demonicsweaters yep, good advice. I eventually found the issue though. when I attached the td6 I had to order new cables since the DED set weren't compatible. I bought a Simmons bundle of 9 cables off eBay. My dual zone pads weren't working because I had ordered mono cables. At first I was thinking that it was something to do with the pad type selection. Anyway, waiting on 3 additional stereo cables. All should be good then.
Another Q: do you know of any way on the td6 to boost the volume of the HH switch? When I step on it with my foot the closed sound is really weak. In my traditional playing I rely on this quite a bit. - and forget about getting an open splash sound with the foot switch...
But... I'm actually loving the td6- Lots of usable sounds and the triggering seems more accurate than the DED. Thanks for the recommendation!
I have a TD-6 which I have been using for some time and also an Alesis io-4. To do multitrack recording on my iMac, we have been using just the audio inputs. My question is, could the TD-6 be linked via the 5 pin midi sockets AND use the audio inputs for vocals, guitar bass at the same time? Could you give some guidance on this? TIA
Yes, you could definitely do that. You’ll just need a plugin for drum sounds in your DAW like EZDrummer.
@@demonicsweaters Thanks for getting back to me. So are you saying that by inputting midi data to the DAW, it can't use the internal TD-6 sounds?
@@richardpayne1954 That's right. MIDI only transmits MIDI. If you really wanted the sounds in the TD-6, you could always send MIDI back out to the module then record the audio output afterwards.
Hii! So can you assign a different sound to the rim and head of the pad like if u were using a real acoustic snare? Helpp
if you're using a dual zone trigger, you'll see 'rim' when you're selecting your sound and hit the rim of the drum. You also have to make sure you select a dual zone trigger in trigger type, like a PD-100 or something that has dual zones.
should i get the td-4kp or td-6? i'm not a beginner, but have never purchased an electronic kit. looking to just keep my chops up and record. which is better? i'm leaning towards the td-4kp because its newer and i've read it sounds better. is that true? any help is appreciated!
Well, sound is subjective. I'd listen to both and decide for yourself.
@@demonicsweaters ok
I have an old td6 with thr rubber pads even the high hat is the rubber round one. I wanna upgrade can i even use mesh with this modul. Should i just sell it and get a whole new kit ?
The TD-6 will worth with a huge variety of pads, including mesh.
Thanks for sharing this great video => quick question : I have this TD6 also and I would like to output separately my kick from the rest of the kit (to use a dedicated speaker for the kick with wide-bass), is that even possible ? through MIDI maybe ?
just pan your kick all the way left and the rest of the drums all the way right, then run your left output to the kick speaker and the right output to the mains
@@demonicsweaters we did it and it works awesome!! Really makes the diff. 👍 You genius 🤘
@@julientrouve9348 That's rad! I bet that would sound cool!
Great video, but with the title are you reviewing this in the future 🤣
hey, this is an awesome video. I just got a td-6 and learning to use it, so this is so helpful. Speaking of Midi to usb, I did that but I cant get it to connect to reaper. I was trying to find the td-6 driver on rolands site but all they have is the update. is there a way around that that maybe I am not understanding?
There would be no driver since it doesn’t have USB. You will need the driver for whatever usb midi cable you bought. Most of them are plug and play though.
@@demonicsweaters thank you, i just went back and watched the included video on the darn cable I got and in the video it said to reverse the cables for in and out. what a pain, but thank you for pointing me in the right direction to look. once I get home I am going to retry and see if that solves it.
I’ve had the TD6V forever but I can never get it to split the toms! I even bought a real deal Roland cable and it STILL doesn’t work! The manual is really fuzzy as to how it works. So fuzzy that I just don’t get it. I just can’t get that second pad to register when I hit it. Would you be able to tell me how this works?
All I did was plug it in and it worked
Still using this one too, big up to Roland for the durability and upgradability!
I only have one issue: Is it somehow possible to adjust the hi hat *pedal* threshold? It seems overly sensitive, resulting in "foot close" MIDI events / chicks even when putting extra pressure to keep it closed... using it with AD2 (adjusting the pedal sensitivity there didn't help so far, the only way for clean recordings is to mute all foot close events afterwards and re-enable the ones i actually need)
//Btw this video helped me with making some right upgrade decisions, infos about this module are not easy to get these days... ;) Thanks!
What hi hat controller are you using?
Hello. I bought a Roland TD-6v, and since I'm an inexperienced drummer, I've been having some issues. I connected the TD-6v module to my computer using a MIDI-USB 2.0 cable, with headphones connected to the computer as my audio output. When recording in Cubase or Reaper, the drum sounds randomly disappear. It's not a latency issue; the sound is completely absent. I play relatively consistently, but the recorded output is a mess - half of the notes don't get recorded, cymbals are barely audible, the bass drum triggers inconsistently, and so on. If I play the drums without connecting them to the computer, everything works fine, of course. I've tried playing directly through the Superior Drummer plugin and without it, recording the clean MIDI signal and then processing it with the plugin. In both cases, the results are terrible. Please help! I have an udio interface - Behringer, but there's no MINI input, that's whI using MIDI-USB
Sounds like somebody might have messed with the midi mapping within the module. Do a factory reset and it'll wipe out any changes made by the previous owner. However, this will also wipe out any changes you've made to the module. Follow the instructions carefully.
Power on the Roland TD-6 while holding SHIFT and EDIT/SETUP.
Press INC/+ to select “ALL.”
Press ENTER twice.
@@demonicsweaters Thank you! I tried what you suggested just in case, but it didn't help. The problem is specifically that two notes are not playing simultaneously. When I hit both the snare and cymbal at the same time, only one of them plays, either the snare or the cymbal. This issue only occurs with MIDI. When I play the drums without connecting them to the computer, everything works fine. But I wanted to connect the drums to play and record instruments, and it's turning out to be problematic. I'll keep fighting with it. Thank you for your response :) Good luck!"
Would a TD-6 work with the Alesis Crimson 2SE kit? I'm in Hi-Hat hell with it (it only registers every other press & it's making me mental) so I'm wondering if it's an easy swap to one of these.
It should work. I'm not sure about the hi hat controller though, you may need to pick up a FD7 or something
@@demonicsweaters Thank you! I ordered a Lemon controller. Do you think that'll do?
@@TheRushOfItAll yep, they work
@@demonicsweaters Excellent! Thanks so much for the information! :)
Just scored a TD-6V for $150 shipped! Whoop!
Could you please post new links to your Td6 Custom Kits, Justin? Thanks a lot!
czcams.com/video/bU-9f5u9N1Y/video.html just updated the link!
Awesome!! That is so helpful. Thank you und greetings from Germany...👍
Looking to getting a third pair of headphones myself, mostly for mixdowns/monitor🗽🛸🎧❤️📼
For mixing, nothing beats the Sony MDR-7506 amzn.to/4aokeL5
Do you know if there are any benefits to using the newer modules when only using with VST?
Well some have more accurate triggering than the older ones, but most roland modules of any era work great
@@demonicsweaters Thank you good sir
I use my TD6V with Addictive Drummer and it’s killer!
I was trying to update my TD 6 and somehow seem to have lost everything. How can I get back to the factory set up? I can’t get the td6 to go through that process.
try doing a factory reset.
1. Power on while holding SHIFT and EDIT/SETUP.
2. Press INC/+ to select “ALL.”
3. Press ENTER twice.
Tried that It would go through that process. @@demonicsweaters
The internal battery might be dead
Hey man, I just bought a td6 used. When I power it on, all the letters are mixed up and theres no numbers. And theres no sound besides static. I was given the wrong power supply, but tried a different one that fit the specs but its still doing the same thing. Is there anything I can do besides get a new module?
Have you tried a factory reset?
@@demonicsweaters yes but all the letters are scrambled up so you cant even read anything. But i did press the buttons it said to reset it. But its still the same
I would contact Roland directly.
@@demonicsweaters I tried but I couldnt get through to a real person. I guess I gotta buy a new module. Thanks for getting back to me man
What are the pads pr triggers ?
Dude! Is it possible for you to check the td7 Roland module?
I assume you mean the TD-7 from 1993 and not the current TD-07? I had the old TD-7 in the past, but I didn't care for it. Not that the sounds were bad, but it was way too cumbersome to program. Roland hadn't quite figured it out yet on that one. The TD-5 is the first one that sort-of worked the way the modern ones work and they sound pretty similar to the TD-7.
Do you know if td6 supports kt-10 kick pedal?
It should
I had one for years, my only complaint was that you could not eq the pads individually. My TD - 11KV you can. The TD - 6V is still very competitive to this day, in fact I'm even thinking of getting another one! I love that you can set the decay on the cymbals too, so at low volumes you can set the cymbals to ring for as long as you want - not so on the TD11. I also love the muffled toms on the TD - 6V, on the TD11 you can muffle them but it's not quite the same......? On the TD11 s factory settings, the toms all have huge amounts of ring - like acoustic toms - YUGH.
I had a TD-11 for a while too, I regret selling that one as well, haha. I didn't like it as much as the 6, but it had a few sounds I really enjoyed.
@@demonicsweaters Yeah, the cymbals are amazing and some snare sounds too on the TD 11, I won't ever sell it - (I don't think) I had a TD5 like yours too long ago,it had one set of toms that were fantastic.
I believe my ancient Alesis DM pro has upwards of 1500 sounds. It's a complicated piece, though.
That would be a cool one to try using these days! I think the old 90s Alesis modules were pretty good!
Snare drum sounds great in the mix. Pretty annoying you prefer this over the much newer 17 and 27 😢 but hey at least I can probably find one for very cheap.
To me the only thing that's "bad" is that it doesn't have multi layer samples. Seems to me that it's just changing the volume with different velocities.
It actually does have multi layers, just not many. Maybe like 2 or 3 on some sounds.
@@demonicsweaters I do agree with you though that the td27 kind of sucks by default but you can tweak it quite well to get good sounds. Actually the convolver that it has both for the overheads and the room allows you to create a very convincing sound. It just requires work. Let's hope the 2.0 version improves upon that
Better than td-4?
I’ve never had a TD-4, but it seems like it
Bwahaha, I found this video because I just watched a review on the new SPD SX Pro, and found myself thinking how much better I’d expect the kits to sound than my TD-06, my first, and only drum module. Not sure if Roland is just nerfing the SPD SX Pro to avoid eating into their drum module line, but the kits sounded like cheap crap. TD64EVR
Roland drums get big because of td6 affordable for everyone