Calisthenics Vs. Weight Training for Building Muscle
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- čas přidán 18. 09. 2020
- In this QUAH Sal, Adam, & Justin answer the question “How would you compare calisthenics to weight training for building muscle, improving health, and general wellness?”
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Calisthenics gives you body control like no other
The control aspect is very important. It unleashes max muscle gain for bodybuilders. Idk why it wasn't mention.
Like if you can 20 military pull-ups, you for sure will reach max nattyness.
@@WilzonTovar wtf is your comment bro
@@jeebee2460 LOLOL
@@jeebee2460 supraphysiological amounts of bro science but he's probably right
Try playing team sports with defenders in your face
For building upper body, calistenics is incredible, there is just a learning curve.
Your constantly overlapping muscle groups, increased flexibility,athleticism and hitting abs almost every set.
I never realized how much I hate gyms and driving to them.
Give me a dip bar and pushups, can care less how much I bench as long as that side and upper chest is looking ridiculous
yes i agree i just placed a pullup bar, dip bars, and bought gymnastics rings so i made a mini gym in my yard and it all cost me around 70 euros no need for expensive weights and a gym membership, just gravity, me and some simple tools
@@lukanikolovski5429 It gives the best results. Best of health to you👍
I believe calisthenics is equally incredible in building the lower body as well... the problem is most people don't really understand what *proper* calisthenics leg training entails.
They just want to look at it from a weight training mindset and reference standard... they end up totally missing the point by doing this.
@@davepazz580 but how do you overload when you have masted doing say 20 pistolsquats in a set?
@@linetiilikainen2755 weighted vest weighted calisthenics
Jump Rope + Calisthenics
I can’t really say because I have never been fit but I want to be very defined and has never been my goal to be “big” but to be strong and that can be seen clearly by me being defined so I assume calisthenics would be better for me
yh i agree alot of the staple moves in calisthenics work ur core a lot
if you want to be strong then you have to get fat and lift at low rep ranges
Lifting for around 3 years now, but switched to calisthenics for 4 months now and i feel so much better and my joints felt much stronger. I only use weights for legs and other mini accessory movements.
I switched from weight isolation training to calisthenics, my body changed a lot. And I mean a lot. I still do weight training, but i do more calisthenics
Changed for the better?
@@CC--ky5bq it really did, although I still have body fat, I can perform elbow planche and back lever. Im close to the muscle up. If I get this body fat down, i think i would be able to perform better
Bodyweight equals stronger and leaner but if you trying to get size and muscle weights is your way to go
@@hyped-up-charlie yes, you are correct, i do weights jusr for mass
@@mannybeatsproduction2691 did you become overal stronger from switching
Body weight training actually tightens you up faster and you become more in tune with your body
I do calisthenics primarily with a heavy focus on gymnastic rings. I get accused of being on steroids almost daily (I’m not) and can’t really walk into any room without out someone commenting on my physique
You seem humble
@@carterhaugenmusic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Must be proud of yourself 😅
@@heruyoung3828 almost as proud as your profile pic
Very humble u are 🤡
Day 1 - 1 hour calisthenics (full body)
Day 2 - 1 hour of weights (full body)
Day 3 - Off
Repeat this cycle. I did 13 years of weights, have been doing this 6 months and have noticed big changes in my physique
1 set per muscles group (weights)?
As a beginner I became ripped faster with calisthenics.
@CravingCocktailsDFW no, it's harder to build muscle with calisthsnics because you burn more calories, because you are dependant on reps, if you're skinny fat go for weights, once you fix that you can switch to calisthenics, I'm saying that as a dude that does only calisthenics.
@@rotshepherd3817 Can you do both calisthenics and weight training in the same workout or should they be programmed separately?
@@swoopes7777 It really won't matter... just do them as it works best for you.
@@davepazz580 Thank you for the response. Appreciate it.
@@swoopes7777 You definitely want to program them SEPERATELY.
Both weights and calisthenics take a LOT out of you, so you wouldn't be able to maintain good form or intensity in whichever your followup workout is.
Better to do full-body weights one day, calisthenics the next day, followed by a day of rest, then repeat.
That's what I do and I'm jacked af WITH abs. Use to be skinny-fat like you.
Calisthenics is best mixed with some weight training I myself do kettlebells with calisthenics focus also I have a weighted vest as well that's a tool that is really helpful to calisthenics or weight training.
Calisthenics can transfer well to weight lifting. I tried going to the gym for a while and I can already bench 185 lbs. I made a lot of respectable lifts! However it wouldn’t be the same for weightlifters doing calisthenic for the first time. Most gym guys I see can’t even do a proper push-up and pull-ups. Let alone handstands, planches, and front/back levers.
ones you have a pair of gymnastic rings, all you need more are some external load to add in case of some basics.... the barbell? you can add the 3 main lifts eventually if you have some specific goals ; otherwise make things simple as they are... resistance is resistance, is about manipulate the way you are training yourself rather than barbell or bodyweight.
Deadlift is the only exercise you can't replicate in calisthenics, but you can still train the same muscles in a different way
@@wowftw120 actually you can search it up. I forget the name of the move but it’s where you hanging upside down on a bar and pulling yourself up
@@taekw445 not the same
@@taekw445 that's very true but the learning curve is fucking mental 🤣
@@georgegregory6538 yes lol
I do both:)
Volume:
Progression of Weight,reps,sets.
Periodization: increase volume in one way or another over X amount of weeks. An then deload. Rinse repeat.
Measure: Measure your total calories daily. Measure your bf and limb/torso sizes once a month. As well as weight.
^ boom. The whole of body building.
Tips.
Progress incrementally.
Stretch after.
Do something for the heart, I reccomend boxing on a bag.
facts
Not doing no cardio
@@alexp8785 cardio is good take a walk then
I am trying to get mostly big upper body should I do calistetics or weights ?
No need to touch external weight unless you can lift your bodyweight
They know what they are talking about 👍
Wel maby i am wrong but it am 1:19 In and, you don't do it to get bigger mussels you do it to get stronger
Yep. Ppl who shun any form of resistance training are wrong. My current home workout with limited home equipment. 4 sets per ex
M: Wide grip pull-ups, inverted rows w/ weight vest, hyper extension w/ weight vest, single leg glute bridges, rear delt raises w/ plates, dumbbell curls
T: decline push-ups w/ weight vest, dips w/ dip belt, lunges w/ weight vest, split squat w/ weight vest, lateral raises w/ plates, triceps dips w/ weight vest
W: rest
Th: chin-ups w/ dip belt, neutral grip pull-ups w/ dip belt, barbell rows, dumbbell rows, rear delt raises w/ plates, barbell curls
Fr: dumbbell bench press, reverse grip dumbbell bench press, dumbbell shoulder press, Arnolds, lateral raises w/ plates, tricep kickback w/ plates
Sa: goblet squat, dumbbell squat, kettlebell swing w/ plate, dumbbell RDLs, suitcase carry, calf raises w/ dumbbells
Su: rest
If I got time, I turn the rest day into an active rest day (sled pull, sled push, farmers walks, step ups)
No excuses b/c of the virus
What about for martial arts im 44 and lataley i have been having serious pains in my shoulders i do kenpo and kick boxing weekly. Im a veteran too but latley weight lifiting been hurting my body.
I dont know how to mix weights and calisthenics. Any recommendations? How to split my workout? Both styles has lots of pros
pull ups,chin ups and dips
If u r at home just take a bagpack with some books and do exercises.For adding load increase books
@Nickolas Suarez sit ups too
If you can already do stuff like 3x10 on pull ups, dips, push ups etc, I usually just add 10-20lbs and stick with that for awhile until I get use to that, then bump it up. It's almost like approaching in like you're practicing this movement with a slight load, so eventually the body adapts, and you move through space with that extra 10-20lbs as if it was always there. Then when you do BW pull ups you'll have ALOT of explosiveness and power because you're 20lbs lighter in that moment.
You can always take the 5x5 approach too, but I have found that most people care about the number, instead of the movement pattern. So by adding very small loads to your "BW" movements, you'll over time, get stronger. Cuz again I find that trying to hit high numbers only give me joint problems and other recovery issues.
Also a big factor is weekly volume. If I do 4x8 with 25lbs on pull ups,(and change the variation everyday) that's 226 total reps in 7 days by only doing 4 sets a day. Then with the added 15lbs, you accumulate 45,200lbs of total workload, instead of 40,680 with just the 180lb BW.
Seems to be working for me, and my workouts are very short, which is a perfet amount of time to elicit a growth response, but not enough where I'm busting my hole off to "make gains"
It's simple, just use weights for legs and bodyweight for upper body
I used to lift weights in college and I was in the best shape of my life and I stopped for awhile. Right now I started doing calisthenics and once I master it I’m going to incorporate weighted calisthenics and also just mixing in lifting weights again to pump up more after I get super cut
1:26 thank you guys 🙏
They’re both important for totally different reasons. But ultimately it’s whatever your goal is . In my opinion it’s good to train both and not neglect either !
I’m struggling to lift consistently these days because I’m sitting all day so now have back pain and twisted hips. I’m wondering if I switch to just body weight stuff ill see improvements. Weights just feels like I’m loading disfunction
Calisthenics is much better for that...
@@davepazz580 most definitely
I've gotten better results with gymnastics rings and weighted calisthenics. I do supplement weights to isolate muscles like the side delt.
Calisthenics and dumbells the best combo for upper body
Dumbells wide shoulders and calistenics everything else
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You got a follower just because the Mesa in the back ... JK dude, great deal of info man!
I use calisthenics for upper body weight for lower body it gives me best results
I like lean long muscles not stubby bulky. I do more calisthenics than weights. Lean and mean!!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Overall healthier and looking better calisthenics.. but i would do both .. you need to add weight to pull ups dips .. you need heavy weight squats and deadlifts that is for gym
Calisthenics is better if you are trying to get defined I think it can also be beneficial for some sports but I weight train bc I play football
Yes calisthenics makes you more “ripped” because your whole body is being worked all together... weighted calisthenics is the perfect way to get a jacked body
@@realtruth1448 what r u talking about lmaooo
@@alexp8785 basically what I’m saying is weighted calisthenics will give your those “ripple” like muscles and make them bigger at the same time, weight lifting doesn’t give you that same effect, but I still use weights like barbells & dumbells & a hex bar for deadlifts, other than that I do weighted calisthenics & resistance band calisthenics
@@realtruth1448 what you're saying makes no sense at all. How defined you are has to do with how much body fat is on your body. There aren't different types of muscle hypertrophy, muscle growth is the same process whether it's via calisthenics or via weight training
@@alexp8785 you don’t even understand what I’m saying
Calisthenics movements work more muscles than regular weight lifting
For example, the bench press works:
A conventional bench press uses the pectoralis major, anterior deltoids, and Triceps brachii to horizontally adduct the shoulder. It also uses predominantly triceps and anconeus to extend the elbows.
Push ups work:
Which muscles do pushups work?
The muscles in the upper body do most of the work when a person does pushups. These muscles are:
chest muscle group, including the pectoralis major and pectoralis minor
shoulder muscle group, including the deltoid major and deltoid minor
upper and middle back muscles, including the latissimus dorsi, rhomboids, and trapeze muscles
biceps, at the front of the upper arm
triceps, at the back of the upper arm
serratus anterior, which sits on the side of the chest beneath the upper arm
However, pushups require many other muscles in the body to work to keep the body in a rigid plank position. These muscles may include:
lower back muscles
abdominal, or core muscles
gluteus maximus and medius, which are the buttocks muscles
leg muscles, including the hamstrings, quadriceps, calf, and shin muscles
You see the difference?
its better than fucking machines! and i transfer alot to other strength sports as well. not really the freestyle or the static kind of cali but with weighted calisthenics, where u do even heavy squats. a whole other level of strength.
Machines have their place. Some of them can help beginners to progress into bodyweight exercises. Ex. Pulldown, Assisted Dips/Pullups. Not everyone has the strength to do bodyweight exercises starting out.
@@6393dude All bodyweight exercises can be "regressed" to be made easy for anyone to start doing them...
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Does calisthenics work on skinny fat bodies?
Works on everything...
If you're overweight just lift bro
I've never understood this question or debate....It all depends on what you weigh.
A 220lb person doing dips for 12 Is not the same as a 180lb doing 12.
Therefore the 180lb guy needs a weight belt with the additional 40lbs to be doing the same workload.
This is why heavyweight boxers seem to maintain or gain size almost purely with calisthenics, they're heavy to begin with.
It's more about what you can do at your own weight... not really to compare your performance to someone heavier than you.
Nah it’s about strength to weight ratio if you’re heavier you should be stronger
@@bape7372 Why? Gymnasts aren't excessively heavy but very strong
@@MiggsMultiple exactly that’s my point it’s not an excuse to do less reps if you’re heavier
@@bape7372 read the first post again...it's very clear
@3:28
Why do we put one against the other! I ride motorcycles,i would say weights give you a body like a muscle bike,zrx 1100 and calisthenics gives you a body like a sportsbike,Fireblade. Use the tools in order to do the job you want to complete
It's not "against" each other, but rather a side-by-side comparison...
I can't recommend the Agoge Diet enough, that stuff helped me gain so much muscle.
There should really be a different name for street/park calisthenics and what I call "video shit." Street calisthenics are hard full body exercises with a foundation of pull ups push ups dips squats and core work. What I call "video shit" are the girly videos where you do stuff like donkey kicks and leg raises like Chloe Ting and Beach body. You can only go so far with those videos. They almost always rely on cardio to burn a lot of fat and the muscle building is in the workout with this "it's a nice bonus" feel rather than feeling like muscle building is the corner stone of the work out. You can really build muscle working on your push ups and pull ups. I do calisthenics at the park. I'm not doing a girly work out, lol. I still need bands to take some of my weight off to work on it. I gained so much muscle last month that my weight went up while I was eating in deficit. My waist and hips went down. My calves and one of my biceps went up.
Im trying to get a little bit bigger but also stay lean and have a nice body not like fully popped out muscle with every detail but a nice body, I weight 129 as a boy, would you recommend calisthenics or weight exercises because I only have Dumbbells
How big can you get doing body weight training
Look at a gymnast.
@@stealthymonk7734 yeah their bodies look insane 😂
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MMA and calisthenics
These chairs look super uncomfortable.
you must have weights for
Traps
Quads
Calf
Forearm
hams
Traps can be trained well enough with upside-down bodyweight shrugs on parallel bars (or rings)...
Quads can be hit *very* hard and directly with pendulum sissy squats and your bodyweight alone provides more than enough resistance (which can be magnified by your body angle)... the advantage of this exercise is that it not only hits your quads extremely well, it also takes your lower back completely out of the picture in doing so.
But if for some reason you don't have the necessary harness to do pendulum sissy squats, then simple one-legged squat movements (with a supported hand) done very slowly (full range of motion, but never "locking out" at either the top or bottom) should be more than enough to develop your quads to a high level in the long run.
Hamstrings can be developed with Nordic curls or with suspension strap leg curls (done while lying on the floor)... as an alternative, hyperextensions (back raises) also work the hams.
Weights are in no way necessary for hamstring development...
I'll give you calves, because that's such a dense muscle and can withstand so much resistance, but forearms typically get trained hard enough from just hanging on the bars during the various upper-body calisthenics pulling exercises.
You have a lot to learn about calisthenics.
For getting stronger and lean I say bodyweight but if you trying to be big and beefy I say weights
Lmao not the calisthenics fanboys hating on weights if your goal is hypertrophy lift some weights bro💀
👍
It's all the same thing in the end...
how about a challenge holding your own weight at the ledge of a building. lets see who fall first
@@qwerty6789x *if your goal is hypertrophy* lift weights. If you want to do a handstand on the ledge of a building for whatever reason obviously do calisthenics 💀🤦♂️
you know calisthenics with weights will give you way better hypertrophy result right. And high reps for calisthenics causes hypertrophy as well
If you want to get lean and build muscle faster, your best bet is weight lifting.
But if you don't wand to spend lots of money on equipment or in the gym + You want a relatively safer workouts for your joints then do calisthenics.
So, although the weights guy is building TWICE as more muscle in one session, you're going to have MORE workout sessions because you're going to get less injuries + the fact that you can do your workouts anytime and anywhere even when you're broke.
With calisthenics you won't also lose a lot of your flexibility and mobility and you'll have greater muscle endurance and body control and perhaps even better mind to muscle connection. Hence calisthenics is better for athletes, gymnasts, swimmers etc.
Another amazing thing about progressing in calisthenics is that you'll get to do awesome tricks with your body like muscles ups or handstands! lol
That said, the amount of muscle a calisthenics guy can build in 10 months, a weight lifting guy can build in just 4.
A strict/pure calisthenics athlete will have to incorporate some type of weight training anyway as he gets more advanced especially for his side delts and legs.
I agree about building muscle faster with weights... but getting lean?
That's calisthenics all the way... it's perfectly possible to lift weights, get much stronger *and* get fatter at the same time, but not with calisthenics.
You can't even make any real progress in calisthenics *without* getting leaner at the same time... it's physically not possible.
I also agree the amount of muscle a calisthenics guy could build in 10 months could be built in 4 by someone lifting weights... but at the same time, that just means one will typically plateau much faster with weights (newbie gains).
About leg training... I believe when it comes specifically to quad and hamstring training, your bodyweight can be manipulated almost endlessly to forever challenge and make gains from calisthenics leg exercises.
But glutes and calves are another matter... barring some new bodyweight training technique I haven't come across yet, external weights are far more practical and better for these two muscle groups.
@@davepazz580 getting lean is about diet
@@sharpie6888 I agree it's about diet, but diets don't exist in vacuums...
With calisthenics, adjusting your diet to become leaner is a *requirement* for progress... you won't get far long term without doing so.
Whereas with weight training, adjusting your calorie intake to become leaner is *not* a requirement to progression... in fact, the more body fat you carry, the *better* you may perform on many lifts.
That's why I say bodybuilders who have to lean out for contests by eating less and less while doing a bunch of cardio on top of lifting weights to get lean is like trying to swim upstream... you can do it, but from the body's point of view it's a completely illogical process because you're essentially trying to accomplish 2 contradictory goals at once.
You only need a dumbbell and a bench. For calisthenics, you need fix a pull up bar somewhere.
Not athletes
I think calisthenics builds a more appealing body. With bodybuilding you will eventually do steroids and end up looking like a skeleton wearing a obese persons skin, Dave palumbo for an example.
This is the silliest comment I’ve ever read.
@@benjaminth10 word he just pulled some shit right out his ass
next time try to read what u just wrote before hitting enter lmaooo
Should have stop at first sentance. "I think calisthenics builds a more appealing body.". That one is right, at least in my opinion, people who do calisthenics USUALLY look much better then people in gym.
The fact the consider handstand push-ups a good exercise is a joke.
Why so?
@@davepazz580 it’s not good at doing anything but compressing your neck. You’d get more muscles activation from military press or any other shoulder press. They can be done right And in a way that makes you stronger but I wouldn’t do them unless you have no weights and can only do body weight movements and even then Pikes press has less risk.
Interesting... I've never heard of normal handstand push-ups "compressing" one's neck unless you're referring to the type of handstands done by crossfitters called "kipping" handstands (where you actually have to make your head touch the ground on the bottom of every rep then "bounce" back up).
In normal handstand push-ups, there is no reason whatsoever for the head (and by consequence, your entire bodyweight on top of that) to be touching the ground... even better if you use blocks or parallettes for handstands so your head will be so above ground your head will never come near it.
@@c.d8455 if it’s compressing their neck , then they’re simply doing it wrong , you should be able to relax and do it like any other workout
@@davepazz580 Dave listen. I don’t give a fuck what you think of hand stand pushups because they are a trash ass exercise. If your doing them over db shoulder press or even military press you must be a little low on the IQ side of things.
Weighted calisthenics .. problem solved. Lol like it's not hard. When training use every tool in the 🧰. Use various training modalities to create a program for the body you want.
Ex: Dips,Chins Front Squat, Deadlift, OHP
Create a program around this
Didn't know there was a problem to begin with...
@@davepazz580 calisthenics builds muscle slower than weight training, BUT on the flip side your WHOLE body is getting bigger evenly, and you’re getting better control over your body
All in all if you want a serious solid physic go for weighted calisthenics
Adding weight to calisthenics certainly speeds up your muscle growth than if you don't use weights at all...
But the downside is you are essentially removing the safeguards to the joints and tendons that bodyweight-only calisthenics has and inviting injury that much faster as well... it's *very* easy to get carried away in the beginning with using a lot of weight
thinking "more weight = better results" when all you're really doing in the long run if wearing yourself down.
With enough dedication, just using harder variations of the basic bodyweight exercises will get you to the same place as weighted calisthenics will over time... it will take much longer, but at least they are easier on the joints and there is no rush anyway.
@@davepazz580 your joints aren’t going to be significantly wearer down from weighted calisthenics, I don’t know where you got that idea from
Just ask most trainees about an exercises like parallel bar dips... you're likely to find at least half of them have shoulder pain from doing them.
That's because the exercise itself doesn't put the shoulders in the best position at the start of the movement, then forces the joints to move well outside it's natural range of motion.
Now, if you strap weights onto yourself, this will force the joints to be strained on a higher level and pulls them out of position even more than if no weights were used at all... not a very smart thing to do.
Same goes for pull-up exercises... the elbows are placed in very vulnerable positions which aren't so bad if you slowly build up to normal pull-up strength, but to uselessly strap loads onto yourself is again, asking for trouble pretty fast.
And from other anecdotal sources... there are many examples of guys who spent a few years doing heavy weighted moves and later regret it because of the pain they now have in their joints.
Bodyweight progressions are much better overall if you really care about avoiding injury (and we all should) and eventually will deliver the same results of weighted over time.