What's Next For The Toronto Maple Leafs This Offseason? Trades Coming?
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- In this video, I go over what's next for the Toronto Maple Leafs to do this offseason using advanced stats and salary cap analysis to break it all down
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Don’t want to say a bunch of empty words but honestly your vid’s are some of the only leaf videos that break down the leafs from a logical perspective and not just the fan perspective which is rare to find here and for that just want to say lots of people out there appreciate and really enjoy these vids
Love the Ross Colton idea... He is the kind of player we need.
Jarnkok Isn't going anywhere. excellent value for a 2 way, 15-20 goal guy. solid every year
@@MySundin13 Lol two way? Solid? What does he do in the playoffs? doesn’t score, doesn’t hit. What are you going on about
Bring frost home, many great memories of his dad being the voice at ACC
Great analysis again.
It’s unfortunate that management says major changes are coming and it seems that it’s only a coaching change. Oh well. I’m hoping Berube can light a fire under the core 4’s asses, especially Marner. Not holding my breath on that one tho
Love the vid! I’m wondering which prospects you think will crack the leafs lineup this/next season? Beside Cowan and Minten, I feel excited about Jacob Quillan and Cade Webber. I think their NCAA performances are promising and could potentially fill holes lower in the lineup for cheap in the near future.
Awesome analysis but too may what if variables. We'll just have to wait and see.
This is basically the same roster as last season, and the year before that, and the year before that. So it’s fair to expect similar results.
Lol k bud this isn’t an Einstein physics experiment. they’re the same forward group, but your logic doesn’t make sense. Teams keep pounding until they win, that’s how it goes in sports. It took Ovechkins team 13 years to
@@c_telking4433right, it took Ovie 13 years…but even the Peter Bondra Caps made it to a cup final. How long since we’ve been to one…
I like your ideas especially with having minten as third line centre and domi could take important face offs if need be and get a fourth line centre.
Downtown SB. Dubas screwed up the team for years now. They have no picks and locked in bad contracts with aNMCs. This team won’t win unless does complete rebuild.
I completely agree the need a 3C. We may need to move salary though as Dewar has Arb rights and Robertson if signing will likely be 1.5. Few options I was thinking:
CBJ. Boone Jenner
SJS Nico Sturm
Flyers: Scott Laughton
However don't think this year going to be any better when 53% cap is in the top 4. And will be very annoyed if marner walks. Dubas created so much privilage giving them nmc final year and over paying based of future cap not having 7 to 8 year contracts.
Well Colton or Frost would certainly be make the center position look a little better as both are credible to fill at 2C on an as needed basis. If you don't want Domi playing center then an injury to Tavares or Matthews makes the team very weak down the middle.
Leafs waited too long and did not trade Marner before his no move kicked in, now they are kicking themselves [no pun intended]
Should have moved Nylander when he changed to a tinted visor because he gets migraines
Id be totally down for Ross Colton. I lie even more that hes cost controlled for another 3 seasons. That could be a VERY good contract when the cap is up around 96-98M Tavares is off the books. It would look EVEN better if the leafs could swing a 3 team trade. Maybe not to retain 50% of coltons contract but perhaps something like 35% of Coltons contract. That lays it right in among Kampfs number around 2.4M. Perhaps The leafs decide to \send a guy like Kampf and Robertson +2nd to Colorado for Colton and then get a third team like Anaheim to retain 35%and send them a pick or a prospect or apick or a prospect. To me that would be an ideal scenerio that would make this team infinitely better.
I think Robertson is staying and getting 10-15 games in a top 6 role to start the season as a show me. That brings knies or McMann to the third line with Kamf or Homberg and Nylander. That's fine to get us in the playoffs and gives us room for Cowan and Minten to get a chance. We can look at more offense from 3C at the deadline. I think McMann, Robertson and Knies are all 20+ goal scorers, with Robertson on Marner's line he could get 30+. We will be fine offensively.
Frost would fit like a glove
I like the thought of acquiring Boone Jenner he is a better version of david kampf without trading minten. When minten is ready to be the 3rd line centre Boone could play wing cheaper then Ross Colton better penalty killer great character good on face offs the only thing more perfect is if he was right handed
Andy Frost! Lol he did a stint in WPG Wayback lol
Trading for Brayden Schenn would be a good 3rd line cntre. We would need St Louis or a 3rd team to eat some of his cap.
Does any of this actually matter? They can’t win with this core or cap structure. The Cup window effectively closed when Mitch signed his contract the last time. Constantly trading away what little depth they have. It’s not just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic, it’s throwing a couple over board thinking it’ll keep the ship from hitting the iceberg.
The old window is over. A new could open for the 2025-2026 season, only if they walk away from both JT and Mitch.
Nonsense. The Leafs addressed their key weaknesses. Playing elite defensive teams with elite top of the league goaltending playoff contenders every year is why the team struggles to score in post season. The Leafs went with piss poor goaltending every year and that’s why they lost every series. Defense was addressed as well. The forwards are fine, good enough to get to SC final. They can also add at deadline if needed for a 3C. There’s a reason the Leafs finish near the top of the league in points every year. They are a strong team but their goaltending has been finally fixed this year.
Window is over talk is pure nonsense. You have a Center who won MVP two years ago one of the top players in the league. Marner and Nylander are top 15 players. They finished #2 in scoring in the league last year or maybe you didn’t notice that….
It’s not my fault you live in a bubble. No team has won being built like the Leafs. The experiment has failed. It’s over.
Maybe yet another first round exit will smarten you up.
Offer Marner the same deal as Nylander. Marner can sit on the bench until he accepts it. Leafs can't afford more and if he doesn't want it, he'd walk for nothing anyway.
I think that's fair. If he walks there are free agents like Rantenan or Shesterkin who become available next July
replace Jarnkrok with Cowan that would give us more space.
Laughton or Jenner were my picks but Colton is a decent choice as well to be honest considering he might not cost us much. JT has gotta be a 3C or a winger.
Our defense is better than last year but its still a pretty bad blue line. We didnt really fix the root issues with our blueline we just gave it some nicer complimentary pieces. We need another true top pair can do it all defender.
I would LOVE for the leafs to bring Kase back. He said he wanted to come back and hopefully he could stay healthy but that is a name no one seems to be talking about remaining in free agency
Only way I consider taking on a pricey Ross Colton is too rid ourselves of a pricey Liljegren. Otherwise no way I’d go near that willingly. Colorado would still save a million in cap space. But I have a feeling we’d jus be looking to offload him in a years time. Also I’m not sure how it’s possible to be a -8 for 2022-23 Tampa and a -8 for 2023-24 Avalanche….
Frosts' salary helps with Cap.
It's simple let minten and Cowan prove their it activating them both will cost like 1.6 ruffly were sending out liljgreen kampf and jarnkrok gives u 6 mill to play with
The only player im trading marner for is Brady tkachuk or anthony cirelli
trade Timmins PLZ!!!
Trade all their no shows every year in the physical playoffs like Jarnkrok, Kampf and Liligram.
Give Robertson, Minten,Cowan and McMann a serious chance.
Tavares and Marner are going nowhere this season.
I think the Leafs should try to extend Tavares if he will sign a team friendly contract to retire a Leaf.
Domi. Matthews. Nylander
Knies. Tavares. Marner
Robertson. Minten. Cowan
Give this third line a serious chance to jell a very low cost third line that all 3 will push each other.
that 3rd line is tiny, gonna get caved
That 3rd line would get destroyed defensively. It’s the NHL, ffs.
@@BurtTurbo If it's the 4th line, they could do well against slow less skilled 4th liners
I would like the Leafs to trade for Jack McBain from Utah he is big has some skill is young cheap and could easily be traded for.
Jack McBain is another value option. So is Barrett Hatyton
@@DownTownSports98 I think unless we swap Robertson for Hayton Utah probably wants to keep him just because Hayton was a top five pick and has a lot more offensive upside. McBain I think we could get for Kampf or something like Timmins and Roni Hirvonen.
They should sign Alex Nylander
No...they shouldn't
How is Reilly a $7.5 million defenseman on which planet
On Dubas’ planet
Blake Coleman retained
Marner can auto correct **
Since 2023 trade deadline I took a lot of criticism for suggesting they get Domi from Chicago then Dallas because the way he was feeding Kane showed he'd be a perfect fit for Matthews then allowing Marner to stay with Tavares. It's hilarious how many of you Leaf speculators are now putting Domi on his own line as a centerman, totally disregarding what he was brought in for. McMann also showed last year he works well with Matthews.
There is no free agents at the skill level or production level of Marner and Tavers so to some you're just yakking to have enough to make a longer show. Rid yourself of those two players then expect to be below Ottawa and Buffalo in the standings. Ottawa the last 2 years drooled over the talent available in free agency and look what that got them. The only way this team improves is by getting better 1.5 to 3 million dollar players than the ones they have.
I'd trade minten isn't his ceiling a 3C and he's 2-4 years from helping out the leafs. Should just trade him for someone nhl ready
3 years down the road you're gonna be mewling about the Leafs not having drafted and developed any players
Why can’t Pontus Holmberg play center?
He doesn't play heavy enough down low. Kampf is a solid defensive centre.
Need another LW and a C. Lilljgren and Robertson, Prospect will be going out.
Leafs wont make it to round two again more then likely with the same 5 still back after 8 fricken seasons of failure , nothing will change until tavares and marner are gone the amount of cap space could really shape this team in ways it has not in 8+ years
Will Matthews score then?
@@gordonbgraham your telling me if marner or tavares leave mathews wont score thats delusional , all they need is a good pass on there stick to score bud
@@tr41l3rp4rkb0ys Matthews has 48pts in 55 playoff games. Marner has 50pts in 57 playoff games. They have basically the same numbers. If Matthews leaves does that mean Marner won't score...or is that "delusional"? All Marner needs is a good finisher to tap in his tape sauce. You see how it works...both ways?
Rip capfriendly
NOW WAY that COWAN doesn't make the team. 100% he will be not he 3rd line this year. BOOK IT. Kampf for a 4th round pick and put Steeves in there
@@Gypsyalchemy333 Not yet. Probably in 2026-27.
Kampf is a solid defensive forward...Steeves is not
@@gordonbgraham I would be shocked if the Leafs even considered moving Kamph. I am not sure that Steeves is a good enough skater for the NHL. I have seen him play quite a bit.
@@gordonbgraham why do you say Steeves is not?
@@Gypsyalchemy333 He's not a strong skater by NHL standards. He's a minus 4 in 7 NHL games playing very limited minutes against the weakest opponents. That's a minus 40 in 70 games rate against 4th line matchups. Not good
"What's next for the maple leafs?" Cup
Also, leggo my eggo*
*Timothy Liljegren
Max Domi will start the season with Matthews on right wing.
Trade Marner
That boat has sailed...move on
Love the Colton or Frost idea. I agree this time around they want to run it back with berube and see what they got. Regardless I don’t see Marner coming back next year and walking away. JT does resign for a Tanev type deal.
Marner will not walk away. He is going to sign an extension during the season.
Huge leafs fan but im afraid the sens look way grittier than the leafs at the moment,
Sorry but no arbitrator would ever give Liljegren 3-4M. this is a guy who gets scratched every year in playoffs. even 3M was a significant overpayment
I agree. That deal was the biggest head-scratcher of the off season. 3 plus another 2 would have gotten Zadorov
Hamilton Ontario 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Trade Marner by any means. Pressure, take the “A” away, put him on the 3rd line and any other tactic.
Trading Marner now is a moron move. Historically most guys coming into the final year of a contract play at their best. He's played at a 90+ pt pace for 6 consecutive years & as you're not getting one iota of his value moving him at this point, you're better off having him playing for you in the final year of his deal. Trading him for fuck-all is stupid & that's assuming he'd even waive the 'no move'. Taking the 'A' away just makes Toronto look unprofessional & petty. Got anymore well thought out tactics?
@@bigdave8437 This guy is a child who wants someone to pay for his Christmas toy being taken away...Don't expect logic from an emotional child
@@bigdave8437Marners brand of hockey is UTTERLY useless in the playoffs. I don’t care how many garbage points he’s had, he defers back to Edmundson when he’s got an open shot, he figure skates around contact, he cries in the box, he throws temper tantrums on the bench, 10.9 million makes him think he’s above all that. A contract year doesn’t make a player with ZERO JAM step up. you have it or you don’t, Marner doesn’t have it. You guys defending a player like Marner must love fist round exits, players like Marner heisting the team for 10.9’mil per season is a big part of it
@@c_telking4433 So you're a Marner hater. It doesn't change the logic of what I posted. Losing a player for nothing vs having him produce for your team is beyond stupid. As of July 2025, if the GM chooses, he leaves as a UFA & you spend the 10.9M elsewhere. Your bias clouds your judgement. The fact that you blame Marner for 1st round exits, then claim I'm 'defending' him tells me all I need to know. Marner holds all the cards. He's playing for Toronto this season. Suck it up.
kadri 3rd line center haha
Just a good thought after the whole Brian Burke thing why not move nylander, kampf,liljgren,Robertson to buffalo
Owen power , Jack Quinn , peyton Krebs,
Activate minten, Cowan for 1.7 million
sign Quinn long term qualify Krebs extend market 12 aav x6 Tavares 4x5
Opinions??
I think it could be intriguing at the very least
Knies 15 goals, domi 9 goals is pretty thin for a first line .both of them did not show me any reason why they should be consider as top 6. Maybe on a weak team but not on an aspiring cup contenter.
Robertson liljgren for adam lowry
You clearly think very little of Adam Lowry
@@gordonbgraham no, but a man can dream
@@paoloricci4569 I like Lowry, too. Lilly and Robby ain’t gonna get him
Colton is washed guys!!! pump the brakes. plus, Frost was benched and scratched often by Torts...if he doesn't trust him out there then Berube sure won't. I'd rather they go after Sprong.
Tavares for crosby
That would be cool never gonna happen tho 😂
Marner needs to be traded. Period. Too much money tied up in a winger who can't will himself to the net, can't carry play in the playoffs and made zero difference on the PP during the playoffs. Leaf fans need to fed up with the regular season points extravaganza and then the guaranteed struggle getting out of round 1.
That ship has sailed. Move on
Call up DADDY Dubas. Offer Lilly straight up for Bunting 25% retained.
Leafs are handcuffed by Marner. We are losing good players that wanted a slight pay bump to keep. Another first round knock out. I wouldn’t mind if they missed the playoffs this year
Marner makes the same as Nylander...Why are you putting it on Marner...Because he wants to stay a Leaf? Nylander missed 3 playoff games...with a headache!
It’s more Marner’s agent and dad I believe. They have no championships aspirations, it just maxing out the money and ghost under pressure. Nylander had a migraine and vision issues. It’s real, look it up
@@ginor8416 Yeah, Nylander switched to a tinted visor because of migraines at the beginning of the season. What's to say he won't miss games again next playoffs? At this point he's an 11.5M gamble. Could have used that money on a number 1 D or Montour and Skjei instead of OEL and Lilijegren.
Montour is a pipedream. Nylander is better in the post season the. Marner and Matthews. He’s more of a gamer. But Auston played sick/injured this playoff
@@ginor8416 Marner has slightly better numbers than Nylander who may or not play in the playoffs because he gets migraines. That’s an 11.M gamble for 5M production
lets be real, David Kampf is worth every penny he makes, the NHL salary comparatively to any other league is a joke. Not to mention the disparity of salary differences from line to line, the top guys deserve what they make, but it takes away from what we consider "acceptable" for our bottom line guys.
you can shuffle these little guys all you want, when your money is tied up in a few players who dont care for anything but their money, this team is going to see the same results. Keep Marner? this coming year is another round 1 throw away.
I agree...I feel like getting rid of Kampf allows him to turn into another Zack Hyman situation...I'm not saying Kampf is gonna produce like Hyman did for the Oilers this year, but I think Kampf is under-rated like Hyman was with the Leafs.