Cutting an NVIDIA RTX 4090 in Half with a Water Jet: The Science of Cooling

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    We met with NVIDIA's thermal engineering team to cut an RTX 4090 Founders Edition cooler (not GPU or PCB) in half with a water jet. This was for science, as it allows us to see inside the vapor chamber, the heatpipes, and the cooling structure to understand how coolers are internally formed. We'll have a review of the RTX 4090 Founders Edition soon, but for now, we're starting with a cross-section and engineering-heavy video to learn about cooler design.
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    00:00 - Cutting an RTX 4090 Cooler in Half
    04:50 - Explaining the Cut-in-Half RTX 4090
    06:13 - Microscope Shots of the Vapor Chamber
    08:10 - The Design Process & The PCB Revealed
    09:30 - Heatpipe vs. Vapor Chamber Use
    13:23 - Avoiding Dryout, Memory Thermals
    15:25 - "The TIM Isn't Good!"
    18:01 - Failed Vapor Chambers
    19:46 - Fan Design, Bearings, & Airflow
    25:20 - Concluding & CFD
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    Host, Video Editing: Steve Burke
    Video Editing, Camera Work: Andrew Coleman
    Guest: Malcolm Gutenburg (NVIDIA Thermal Engineer)
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před rokem +240

    Der8auer explains thermal paste pump out: czcams.com/video/CCqxE-5Ct3w/video.html
    Watch TiN (formerly EVGA) demonstrate how GPUs die from over temperature: czcams.com/video/biEoBo8S0Zo/video.html

    • @lamaisonrockduprocrastinat6395
      @lamaisonrockduprocrastinat6395 Před rokem +3

      I sincerely believe that with this version it will create a division between smart players and idiots because this technology is unacceptable!
      The size of this piece of shit shows the end of this old technology's.... they have to change their staff ... new engineers is required !
      **They are obsolete** !
      And their Ray tracing is even not **mastered** ... their own creation is even not understood **IT'S JUST REFLEXION & TEXTURES ON EMPTY OBJECTS** > the GC size is that indication, **the symptom** ... they show to the face of the world their weakness ! **NEED NEW BLOOD, NEW ENGINEERS** ... >>>> very poor engineering !
      30 years of GC ... remove the incompetent

    • @neb_setabed
      @neb_setabed Před rokem +5

      Clickbait

    • @edwardalphonse4091
      @edwardalphonse4091 Před rokem +3

      @@lamaisonrockduprocrastinat6395 h

    • @edwardalphonse4091
      @edwardalphonse4091 Před rokem +2

      @@neb_setabed a

    • @dirkmanderin
      @dirkmanderin Před rokem +6

      The headline is a bit clickbaity, since you're not cutting the actual card in half...

  • @austinshaner
    @austinshaner Před rokem +1655

    As an engineer, I felt right at home in this video. Big companies don't typically send their engineers out for PR purposes. Because let's be honest, most engineers will bore you with the details. But from a company that keeps things pretty close to the chest, this was extremely refreshing. You can tell he's had a lot of hands on experience developing these coolers. He did a great job. Please have him back!

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify Před rokem +48

      Man I wish we could get a multi hour presentation on his experience doing CFD for a company with 'infinite computing resources' as he put.

    • @theheadone
      @theheadone Před rokem +15

      Definitely spot on. I felt like I was at work talking with some of the PhD's.

    • @marcm.
      @marcm. Před rokem +17

      Personally I would have loved to have heard more on each one of these areas that he touched on. This video could easily have been two times the length and I would have still been entranced

    • @adjoho1
      @adjoho1 Před rokem +5

      While I really enjoyed this segment, it's not relevant to me. I custom loop my systems, so the cooler on a GPU is relevant only for the period I power the card on to make sure it powers up. My STRIX 3080 cooler lasted about 5 minutes before I removed it and installed a water block. I wish vendors would offer a bare card for users like me.

    • @MeGaDwarf2008
      @MeGaDwarf2008 Před rokem +2

      @@adjoho1 Some vendors do sell a pre-installed waterblock versions, I think MSI and Gigabyte had one last generation.
      I'm running the MSI's 2080 waterblock card for example. Which was a major PITA to service, but that's a bit of a side topic.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 Před rokem +3259

    NVIDIA executives may be questionable at best but NVIDIA engineers are among the best in the entire business.

    • @supra107
      @supra107 Před rokem +400

      True, all of Nvidia's issues come from the suits.

    • @Taima_the_lion
      @Taima_the_lion Před rokem +240

      Probably like that for a lot of the major tech companies since they are the ones actually designing the product and take pride in it

    • @lilblackduc7312
      @lilblackduc7312 Před rokem +68

      If *Anyone* from Nvidia, or other company explains things truthfully, keep them as a friend. They're uniquely valuable!

    • @789know
      @789know Před rokem +47

      Ironic that Jensen wong is also a engineer. People usually associated Nvidia decision with him as he is the CEO

    • @SidorovichJr
      @SidorovichJr Před rokem +1

      You assume this by simply products leading performance or something else matters? :)

  • @Scooged
    @Scooged Před rokem +548

    I love how happy he is to talk about this stuff. That's real passion. That dude doesn't work for a living, he's just having fun for a living.

    • @bshulke
      @bshulke Před rokem +22

      If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work a day in your life.

    • @PDXCustomPCS
      @PDXCustomPCS Před rokem +3

      Some of us do it on the side and imagine were like him. Awesome roll model. 👌

    • @szaszm_
      @szaszm_ Před rokem +21

      @@bshulke Great saying, but there's a darker flipside to this: If you start doing your hobby professionally, you may get bored with it, or they (colleagues) may make you hate it. It depends on the work environment and your ability to handle or fix it.

    • @svengustaffson385
      @svengustaffson385 Před rokem

      Wouldn't say that

    • @tobiwonkanogy2975
      @tobiwonkanogy2975 Před rokem +1

      It definitely something you could pick up on .

  • @Aeqstaw
    @Aeqstaw Před rokem +611

    Not sure how you got an NVIDIA engineer out there, but this was an excellent guest and piece of content.

    • @sjohie
      @sjohie Před rokem +66

      There was a PR person just outside the camera view, and that guy didn't come along to just handle Malcom's luggage. This is part of a elaborate PR campaign, with probably a pre-approved script etc. But GN won't bend to their will to much, so they, Nvidia I mean, did take somewhat of a risk here. Technicians aren't always good communicators, just like a good cook, might not be all that good at running an complete restaurant. I feel they made the right choice going with Steve and GN, they nail this technical stuff pretty good.

    • @johnd.1618
      @johnd.1618 Před rokem +2

      Being nice to Nvidia is one reason.

    • @vuri3798
      @vuri3798 Před rokem +20

      Easy, Nvidia saw that people currently hate them for a reason, so they copied Intel's PR homework hoping it will all go away.

    • @randomassortmentofthings
      @randomassortmentofthings Před rokem +42

      An engineer will gladly talk to you about his work all day long: it's his company that won't let him lmao

    • @MrRene5551
      @MrRene5551 Před rokem +6

      Sponsored by Nvidia, of course GN dropped the pants for them.

  • @jokerproduction
    @jokerproduction Před rokem +1250

    NVIDIA: unboxing embargo
    Steve: Teardown?
    NVIDIA: Cut it in half with a water jet?
    Steve: Yes.

    • @Blackwing2345635
      @Blackwing2345635 Před rokem +49

      NVIDIA: Damn it, this madman wouldn't stop anyway! FINE, we'll do it ourselves!

    • @jooplin
      @jooplin Před rokem +16

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

    • @neondemon5137
      @neondemon5137 Před rokem +9

      @@jooplin Shaka, when the walls fell.

    • @NEDMKitten
      @NEDMKitten Před rokem +3

      @@jooplin when the water jets fell

    • @mikeoleksa
      @mikeoleksa Před rokem

      @@Blackwing2345635 🤣🤣🤣

  • @DaniIhzaFarrosi
    @DaniIhzaFarrosi Před rokem +3728

    In spite of all hate towards NVIDIA, this video reminds us that there are passionate and real genuine people in it. It’s unfortunate that all the bad decisions the company made overshadow the talent behind it.

    • @michaelblue4619
      @michaelblue4619 Před rokem +74

      I mean the 4090 made by passionate and genuine people was always a good gpu.

    • @rvs55
      @rvs55 Před rokem +68

      And even then, how bad or good those decisions are, is also relative.
      Those decisions are only bad for the average consumer. It doesn't really affect the more affluent or rich consumers. And it benefits the company and shareholders.
      So it all depends on where you stand. Heh.

    • @simonwei92
      @simonwei92 Před rokem +119

      Agreed. Always remember guys, hate a company if you will, but never extend that hate to the normal people working in that company.

    • @Dudi4PoLFr
      @Dudi4PoLFr Před rokem +59

      And this is my problem with huge corporations like Nvidia. We only hear and see what the suits in upper management are doing/saying while in the back, there are hundreds if not thousands of passionate engineers doing all the hard work and pushing the limits of technology that we will never know about.

    • @TRAMP-oline
      @TRAMP-oline Před rokem +46

      @@rvs55 You don't become affluent or rich by wasting money. That's a very bad way of putting it. Affluent and rich people weigh the cons and pros and accept or deny it based on their means like anyone else.

  • @stronkde
    @stronkde Před rokem +18

    As an engineer that can relate to product design decisions, hats off to Malcolm for his demonstration and explanations. It's super hard to convey what you did (and why) in a way that people can understand.. Malcolm did a bang up job doing just that!

  • @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876

    This is a perfect example that if you can get someone that loves and is excited about their profession the enthusiasm almost becomes contagious. The excitement from the engineers is almost palatable and the crew did a great job of framing it to make it more digestible for the general public as well. Absolutely brilliant video wish it was longer.

    • @zachoneal572
      @zachoneal572 Před rokem +7

      I think you meant palpable, though it is quite amusing that you then use digestible in the same sentence.

    • @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
      @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Před rokem +1

      @@zachoneal572 voice program in my car sometimes is not the best. Was dictating the response in my car after listening to the video on my commute to work.

    • @zachoneal572
      @zachoneal572 Před rokem +3

      @@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Yeah definitely don't comment on CZcams videos while driving lmao.

    • @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
      @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Před rokem

      @@zachoneal572 what are you kidding me it beats the heck out of sitting in traffic doing nothing. Or just listening to a book

    • @zachoneal572
      @zachoneal572 Před rokem +2

      @@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Paying attention the road and not dying/killing others is far superior.

  • @chrys9256
    @chrys9256 Před rokem +1319

    This video is emblematic of the wide gulf between Nvidia's engineering team and the company's executives. It can't be easy for the engineers to witness so much negativity and lack of enthusiasm surrounding the products they worked so hard to create due to the decisions made by the executives.

    • @davidb8539
      @davidb8539 Před rokem +141

      From experience - this can be applied to most companies.
      Salesmen promise the moon
      Engineering designs the moon
      The execs decide the customers need a lumpy boulder the price of the moon

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před rokem +70

      @@hyphydan cope

    • @ATR-42
      @ATR-42 Před rokem +14

      @@davidb8539 totally agree ^^ . hello Boeing lol

    • @ShaneMcGrath.
      @ShaneMcGrath. Před rokem +37

      @@hyphydan Not at those prices, Nvidia needs to cope that gpu mining is DED!
      Drop the prices a lot more and many gamers would help clear out those warehouses.

    • @hyphydan
      @hyphydan Před rokem +3

      @@ShaneMcGrath. I'm going to sell my 3080 and 3060ti I got for MSRP and mined for a year, and will purchase a 4080 16gb. Problem solved

  • @Cinetyk
    @Cinetyk Před rokem +58

    The pricing is still absurd, and me as a costumer can't ignore that. But yeah, it's easy to forget the insane levels of quality engineering work being done by some of the best people in their field and it's cool to watch this kind of stuff. Takes me back to my uni days and physics classes.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 Před rokem

      Yeah, the pricing is absurd. I can't even imagine a professional gamer justifying that price for even a small handful of FPS bump. The difference isn't THAT big, the damn cost is way too high. We're getting to a point of diminishing returns here.
      So yes, if you purchase a 4090 brand new to just play games with (as in, you're not a tech reviewer for your job), then you're a damn idiot and you need to get your head examined.

    • @4gbmeans4gb61
      @4gbmeans4gb61 Před rokem +4

      When has the titan or 90 version ever been cheap? And when have you ever had one? Never?

  • @lxndrlbr
    @lxndrlbr Před rokem +38

    This content is a huge plus and differentiator of your channel. I am very interested in seeing all engineering topics in the future. They could be scheduled between announcements seasons. I hope you get all the energy and resources to produce more content like you do!

  • @creed5248
    @creed5248 Před rokem +593

    Despite him being so technical - he was still able to explain it in fairly simple terms that I could understand . The really made out well by hiring him at Nvidia .

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays Před rokem +47

      Yep, the ability to break down complex ideas/things into simple terms is a hallmark of “someone who knows what they’re talking about”.

    • @xerzy
      @xerzy Před rokem +9

      @@tiestofalljays Basically, it all comes down to understanding what the *end goal* of it all is, from there you can ignore irrelevant technical details and pretty much break anything down into basic mechanics and/or logic which anyone can keep up with.

    • @sortofsmarter
      @sortofsmarter Před rokem +13

      Can you imagine him 20 years from now as a "grey beard", the wisdom he can dispell....

    • @Plusimurfriend
      @Plusimurfriend Před rokem +1

      He is white, so he wont last long at Nvidia despite his capabilities.

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 Před rokem +4

      I was with the PR guy, most of it right over my head lol

  • @Grendizer81
    @Grendizer81 Před rokem +57

    Being a pro in their own domain is one thing, being able to talk about it in simple terms to the unknowledgable is another. That ability shows his competence. Very impressive.

  • @r2d2arm
    @r2d2arm Před rokem +14

    As a structural engineer in aerospace, appreciated the bit about adding extra columns for stability in the vapor chamber. Great video and very informative. The PR guy shouldn't have to worry, fundamental equations and laws! Probably had that Winona Ryder gif on loop in his head 😂

  • @apohorecki
    @apohorecki Před rokem +129

    I really appreciate GN doing these unique types of videos. I have to admit that some of it went over my head, but I enjoyed listening to the engineer. He seems really proud and enthusiastic about his work.

    • @Watchfulfox
      @Watchfulfox Před rokem +3

      Watch it again, you'll see it's all basically common physics principles in action. The stuff you learn in school put to use in the real world instead of just being formulas on paper.

    • @Ken-no5ip
      @Ken-no5ip Před rokem +1

      @@Watchfulfox you calculate the enthalpy flow of steam when you cook spaghetti?

  • @chrisd7829
    @chrisd7829 Před rokem +361

    I don't know what kinds of shenanigans you guys had to pull to get this to happen. But this is an absolutely amazing video. Good job

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 Před rokem +76

      Being an unbiased technical news source for the past 12 years or so

    • @jm8080ful
      @jm8080ful Před rokem +33

      nvidia being desperate for some kind of pr with the gpu prices going down

    • @visitante-pc5zc
      @visitante-pc5zc Před rokem +4

      Ngreedia, you mean

    • @countvonthizzle9623
      @countvonthizzle9623 Před rokem +2

      Steve had to tie back his hair. And maybe kneel.

    • @camotech1314
      @camotech1314 Před rokem

      @@jm8080ful doesn't mean they will reduce their prices, have you seen how much the 4090 costs?🤣🤣🤣

  • @bballer4life24
    @bballer4life24 Před rokem +252

    Malcom was awesome. Having people like him acting as the face for Nvidia paints them in a much better light. Also, it was cool to see how much goes into these designs and to hear one of the engineers say that they were proud of their design. Makes you realize its it much more than slapping fans on some heatsinks and making it bigger if its still too hot.

    • @Lodinn
      @Lodinn Před rokem +4

      It's also pretty interesting, Malcolm's presenting skills are pretty good but you still can tell there's a big gap in experience between him and Steve and Steve has to play a host role constantly guiding him so it doesn't get too jargon-y for the viewers.

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline Před rokem +34

    As an (non-thermal) engineer, this is fascinating stuff, and amazing the thought and testing they put into these designs.

  • @schalkvanheerden6151
    @schalkvanheerden6151 Před rokem +4

    What a fascinating video. Great work! You guys did such a good job tackling the very technical aspects and in such a way that the conversation flowed so naturally. Really cool video. It felt like it went by so quickly and it was awesome to see all the close-up shots. The little explanation text in the video was soooo helpful.

  • @ambush1242
    @ambush1242 Před rokem +379

    You guys are the gold standard for computer hardware investigation. Incredible work here guys.

    • @redstar612
      @redstar612 Před rokem +12

      Nexus is on another level with PC content same with der8auer's channel!

    • @Phytrox
      @Phytrox Před rokem +4

      Exactly my thoughts, GN & Der8auer are on next level

    • @HaiHane
      @HaiHane Před rokem +3

      Gold standard? Was expecting actual 4090 getting cut in half
      What I got: 4090 cooler cut in half
      Sad cat thumb. Quality clickbait. Gold standard

    • @dylanherron3963
      @dylanherron3963 Před rokem +4

      @@HaiHane It's almost as if they have a business and need to draw traffic and support staff.

    • @HaiHane
      @HaiHane Před rokem +4

      @@dylanherron3963 I think you caught on with the sarcasm. My point being they don't need to pull a Linus clickbait move if they are serious in distinguishing with actual proper quality. Their content is good, they don't need to pull this shady title move.

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday Před rokem +91

    This is the kind of engagement I want to see from tech companies - most of their customers might not be tech savvy but every single one of them has a friend that is whom is consulted at every purchase.

    • @jeroen9424
      @jeroen9424 Před rokem +1

      And GN is our "friend", they're one of the only people I trust when it comes to reviewing hardware. I do not have friends that are really into pc hardware :(

    • @JGMeador444
      @JGMeador444 Před rokem +1

      @@jeroen9424 Yeah, I trust GN, der8auer, and Hardware Unboxed. That's it.

    • @ChowdongsFameCrew
      @ChowdongsFameCrew Před rokem

      oh yes haha :D

  • @joyQuery
    @joyQuery Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wow -- this video blew me away! Usually I get bored and sleepy really quick with in depth engineering videos but Malcolm was super interesting the whole time! Dude that is a guy who loves what he does and does a fantastic job at it -- so many hats off to Malcolm and Steve at an awesome job of dumbing things down (in a good way) for the rest of us!
    Side note I want my wife to look at me the way Steve looked at Malcolm nerding out with his explanations -- you can see the genuine interest and giddiness Steve had on this subject and analysis -- everything about this video was phenomenal!

  • @djnorth2020
    @djnorth2020 Před rokem +7

    Incredible content. Really cool to see and hear things inside the GPU cooling.

  • @isaacw7479
    @isaacw7479 Před rokem +985

    What REALLY needs to be cut in half is the price

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir Před rokem +327

    I find it quite funny how a lot of people have to physically see engineers, designers, etc to remember that there is more to companies than just their board members and marketing team.
    It's great to see how GN's influence in the tech world is so well respected. Thanks Steve!

    • @BrooklynBalla
      @BrooklynBalla Před rokem +17

      Not sure what you mean.When people hate nvidia they’re talking about the top brass that make decisions.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Před rokem +2

      @@BrooklynBalla but sadly they blame the regular workers as well without second thought. You need to remember not everyone has common sense when it comes to behind the screen stuff...

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před rokem +4

      @@BrooklynBalla Clearly you haven't read many comments in the past years. Not just the top guys. Also I'm referring to a lot of the comments on this vid that clearly show how many people "just realize there are good people at Nvidia".

    • @cloudnine5651
      @cloudnine5651 Před rokem +3

      its how the human brain works......you have to be exposed to something to even know it exists....are people just supposed to know without ever being exposed to the knowledge?

    • @ab185
      @ab185 Před rokem +2

      It should also remind the armchair engineers on CZcams, reddit, etc. to keep their thoughts/opinions to themselves. There are enormous teams of incredibly talented engineers working on these things that have forgotten more than most people know.

  • @MarioCRO
    @MarioCRO Před rokem +8

    GN bringing high value for the community. Great video and very interesting 30 mins spent watching it. Thank you GN!

  • @Offbreed309
    @Offbreed309 Před rokem

    I love the in depth discussions on topics like this. Easily could've been twice as long, but I love longer format vids.

  • @mpauls85
    @mpauls85 Před rokem +253

    That was AMAZING!
    Also, kudos to NVIDIA for allowing this.
    The PR-guys off camera where probably sweating the whole time. 😅

    • @kingplunger6033
      @kingplunger6033 Před rokem +2

      maybe, but in the end nvidia does shitty things every year and people forget fast, so its not that bad.

    • @endless2239
      @endless2239 Před rokem +16

      the Nvidia PR-guys saw the responses to Tom Peterson on Linus video and immediately grabbed this dude, some waterjet and send him to GN XD. Genius.

    • @johan1471
      @johan1471 Před rokem +3

      @@endless2239 can you send the link of the video you're talking about

    • @ZachAttack2U
      @ZachAttack2U Před rokem

      @@johan1471 I believe this is the video Endless was talking about:
      czcams.com/video/45n5pnEyw9o/video.html

    • @Fate025
      @Fate025 Před rokem +2

      the PR guy must be constantly thinking, wait did he just reveal everything thats under NDA????

  • @SasquatchComposites
    @SasquatchComposites Před rokem +187

    This was quite possibly my favorite GN video of all time. Really tickled my aerospace engineer brain to learn how they're applying heat transfer and fluid dynamics to ultimately give us more fps for our entertainment. It'd be super fun to be part of that team. The engineering here is just as sophisticated as what I do on aircraft.

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD Před rokem +5

      sounded more like fps while having a tolerable level of sound :p

    • @joseverdejo9010
      @joseverdejo9010 Před rokem +1

      I thought of propeller pitch and blade counts lol

  • @GoldenHeartNecklace
    @GoldenHeartNecklace Před rokem +4

    I'd love it if that guy made his own engineering channel, he is so genuine in how much he loves his work he's inspiring.

  • @TillRiedell
    @TillRiedell Před rokem +61

    What an amazing video. I'm a senior studying chemical engineering, and there was a ton of cross over. Really interesting! Props to Nvidia for working with you guys to make the video. This is the content that makes GN such a special CZcams channel.

  • @dhofari9009
    @dhofari9009 Před rokem +106

    It seems that Nvidia has high confidence on the performance of the 4000 series to allow for such video especially with GN.
    As an Engineer I found the amount of technical information on this video is crazy. Well done

  • @___DRIP___
    @___DRIP___ Před rokem +321

    Malcolm seems very young, but he’s incredibly knowledgeable and educated. What a great video so far GN team.

    • @Agm1995gamer
      @Agm1995gamer Před rokem +12

      I've met people who look and sound like him at 35.
      Besides that, you younger you are when you learn the better you understand.

    • @Maxi86inAction
      @Maxi86inAction Před rokem +8

      Seems like he really loves his job as well 😄

    • @wongwong1517
      @wongwong1517 Před rokem +10

      Looks like he's in his late 20s. Steve could too, with a shave.

    • @Agm1995gamer
      @Agm1995gamer Před rokem +16

      @@Maxi86inAction
      Imagine being a thermal engineer for nvidia at 19 years old.

    • @fVNzO
      @fVNzO Před rokem +13

      @@Agm1995gamer Not true. Neuroplasticity does not stop at 25. And guided learning is always more effective than opportunistic.

  • @JohnChuprun
    @JohnChuprun Před rokem

    Love the detailed videos and technical insight instead of just watered down high level stuff. Would like to see more of it. Thanks.

  • @markholmes2419
    @markholmes2419 Před rokem

    Really enjoyed this. I'm not an engineer and didn't fully understand everything (by a long way 🙂) but it's always delightful to listen to people speak when they are truly knowledgeable and obviously passionate about their subject. Steve's interviewing technique was also absolutley perfect; only chipping in when clarification was needed or to keep the flow and direction going. Great stuff!

  • @kornydad14
    @kornydad14 Před rokem +377

    As an Aerospace Engineer myself, this discussion was awesome. To have the computing power that Nvidia has at there fingertips to run CFD must be amazing. Most companies have to rent computing power at an incredible cost to run the types of simulations he is talking about. A company I worked for ran a similar study for a fan design we were working on for automotive and it was thousands of dollars just to rent the compute for the few days needed to run the study. This was after we tired running the simulation on our own custom CFD machine with 64 cores and the 4 A6000 an over $60,000 dollar machine at the time. Nvidia probably has 10 times the computing power just lying around.

    • @SplitTheBeat
      @SplitTheBeat Před rokem +43

      Nvidia has whole server farms filled with quadro rtx cards at their disposal. It is as the guy said, they have access to near infinite compute power

    • @jay-5061
      @jay-5061 Před rokem +8

      theyre likely not lying around tho. probably renting it out like u said.

    • @SplitTheBeat
      @SplitTheBeat Před rokem +18

      @@jay-5061 They can't have that amount of compute power "laying around". It's stored in hundreds of server racks in special rooms, in buildings the size of a walmart. They connect to that horsepower via multigigabit glass fibre just as any paying client would, but possibly with more features because it's their own shit after all. This is basically engineer heaven lmao

    • @kornydad14
      @kornydad14 Před rokem +8

      Too be clear, I know it's not just "lying around" but simply meant they probably have access to almost all the compute power not currently in use by customers or other dev teams.

    • @jrsmithunited
      @jrsmithunited Před rokem +9

      I've worked with Nvidia and Dell for drug discovery. You need to add some 00s on the end of how much GPUs they have 'lying around'. They are a sizeable provider in the compute-time space. But small fry compared to those who specialize in it obviously.

  • @AllSeeingEy3
    @AllSeeingEy3 Před rokem +20

    Hey yall, microscope tip from another validation guy: Sandbag the table your scope is on and put neoprene sheeting underneath it. That will keep your heartbeat from showing up in the video. For irregular samples, keep some play dough or modeling clay handy! Moosh it into the clay, and it won't wobble while you're moving the stage.
    Love your work!

  • @DustinHarms
    @DustinHarms Před rokem

    Really appreciate just digging into it fully, while having the on-screen descriptors to help. Makes it so much easier to follow along when I can just pause to define something. =) Really great.

  • @jeromeg9289
    @jeromeg9289 Před rokem

    What an awesome guest to have, Malcolm is clearly passioned about his field and he explains everything so effectively. Real pleasure to listen to.

  • @chrits3396
    @chrits3396 Před rokem +36

    This is probably the advert Nvidia can receive. Seeing a young and talented engineer explain his contribution to just the cooler alone makes me interested in the product and also interested in other aspects of it.

  • @vash_dakari
    @vash_dakari Před rokem +25

    You can tell how proud Malcom is of this card. That's his baby that he's been working on for a while now, and to see it all together and coming out has got to be a great feeling.

  • @whaaaat_scoobs
    @whaaaat_scoobs Před rokem +11

    Thank you NVIDIA and GN for doing this video. I gotta be honest, like many other commenters I have come to think of NVIDIA as a faceless, evil corpo like those straight out of CP2077. Malcolm rocks, the PR guy letting him roll with it rocks, and whoever allowed him to bring all the samples and explain his work designing and testing the new founders cooler deserves a pat on the back. Please do more like this steve!

  • @butterfingersman
    @butterfingersman Před rokem

    incredibly informational to go this deep on this new cooler. thank you for getting together and making this!

  • @BrySA20000
    @BrySA20000 Před rokem +134

    Malcolm seems like a genuinely nice and knowlegdeable guy, something very different compared to nvidia execs

    • @Kley96
      @Kley96 Před rokem +1

      And he is so handsome too!

    • @da-yb2nn
      @da-yb2nn Před rokem +2

      @@Kley96 Of course Nvidia engineers are Chads

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před rokem

      @@da-yb2nn
      he looks like a bottom though

    • @yournan7249
      @yournan7249 Před rokem +2

      @@Kley96 ikr some people have life set to easy mode. bro spawned with good looks, height and knowledge to get free cards forever

    • @popthiccle1158
      @popthiccle1158 Před rokem

      @@yournan7249 bro he's an engineer. nobody gives a shit what u look like if u don't have the knownledge to make a good product.

  • @Liquid_Truth
    @Liquid_Truth Před rokem +198

    Amazing video. Nobody doing it like Gamers Nexus.

    • @Chriscrusty
      @Chriscrusty Před rokem +7

      the video's not even out long enough for you to have watched it lmao

    • @lightchips6164
      @lightchips6164 Před rokem +2

      @@Chriscrusty He watched it at 2x speed lol

    • @snoochpounder
      @snoochpounder Před rokem +5

      Der8auer is also doing great work imo but yeah GN is sick af

    • @InvadeNormandy
      @InvadeNormandy Před rokem +1

      @@linuxsnob
      For your username you sure are missing the point.
      IE: "We're checking if this vapor chamber claim is marketing hokum and bunk or legitimate, and whether or not it's well designed. Which will have ramifications for cooling solutions and after market decisions and let you know if it's competently made or trash." Thus saving countless people potentially money or letting them know if there's any faith to be had in at least a part of the product.
      You're welcome, I did all your thinking for you.

    • @Chriscrusty
      @Chriscrusty Před rokem +1

      @@linuxsnob this is bait

  • @juliovillarreal2504
    @juliovillarreal2504 Před rokem +5

    You gotta love the engineers involved in making these things.

  • @CynicalWilson
    @CynicalWilson Před rokem +4

    Yes! Please more of this type of content! ♥️

  • @johnpvaldez99
    @johnpvaldez99 Před rokem +124

    This dude is seriously underrated, really appreciate his journalism (Newegg videos) and an appreciation for engineering like this one. Also it’s good to not be treated like a teen like some of those video’s from LTT.

  • @gmualum08
    @gmualum08 Před rokem +77

    I was a pre-engineering major in college (wanted to do mechanical engineering). Hearing Malcom talk in his engineering lingo, while fascinating, made me realize I made the right decision changing majors and doing this as a hobby instead. I just couldn't do the math lol.

    • @mickolesmana5899
      @mickolesmana5899 Před rokem +4

      welcome to engineering mate :)

    • @m8x425
      @m8x425 Před rokem

      Yeah.... it ain't easy. I know a lot of people that dropped out or changed majors because of the math.

    • @NoName-to5xl
      @NoName-to5xl Před rokem

      I made it till the end... its best not to force it, you made the right choice.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis Před rokem +2

      Engineering is comparably light on math compared to pure math studies or physics

  • @duncancampbell3768
    @duncancampbell3768 Před rokem

    I very much enjoy it when you bring the passionate people behind the designs to explain things. Please keep it up!

  • @jtland4842
    @jtland4842 Před rokem +51

    Thanks to all you guys at GN as well as Malcolm especially, I may have just realized my passion for Thermal Engineering. It is hard to describe how potentially special this video and moment is to me. I have followed you guys at GN for many years always interested in especially cooler testing which may have been slowly preparing me for this video here. Thank you guys so much for making these kinds of videos because they really help to inspire many others like me as well as provide so much education and consumer advice.

    • @peejay1981
      @peejay1981 Před rokem +1

      I hope you like calculus! Will be an interesting career.

    • @usefulidiot21
      @usefulidiot21 Před rokem

      I'm a mechanical engineer and thermodynamics might've been the hardest classes I had in college, so you'll be fine as long as you like the challenge.

  • @zackmatey1793
    @zackmatey1793 Před rokem +121

    Amazing. This is why GN is the best reviewer in the industry right now

    • @lilblackduc7312
      @lilblackduc7312 Před rokem +10

      He's always been "that smart kid with the scruffy beard & long hair". (8yrs ago) He started gaining recognition just a couple years ago, finally.

  • @dougtemple8474
    @dougtemple8474 Před rokem +44

    Clearly, Malcolm paid a lot of attention in the thermodynamics portion of his physics courses and it really grabbed him. Loads of really interesting stuff in this video, I'm sure a lot of it went over many viewers' heads (a lot went over my head but I understood a lot of what he was at least trying to get at.) When he's done working for nVidia I could see this guy being a physics professor at a university.

    • @timlaunyc
      @timlaunyc Před rokem +5

      In engineering, thermo is its own set of classes. But, airflow may be covered in a fluid dynamic class(es).

    • @kingplunger6033
      @kingplunger6033 Před rokem

      prof for engineering courses yes, "pure" physics no (ofc he might be able to, but apart from some intro courses, physics is very different)

  • @Star-du2od
    @Star-du2od Před rokem

    This is by far my favorite content released on this channel, it's amazing tysm I learned so much

  • @timothyblitzkreepisaac7448

    One of the best and most comprehensive explanations of how coolers work! Really enjoyed this video!

  • @EugeneNaidoo
    @EugeneNaidoo Před rokem +47

    This is why we love GN 🔥

  • @bizzehdee
    @bizzehdee Před rokem +95

    Malcolm from NVIDIA seems super young, and incredibly inteligent... Gonna have a long and well paid career in front of him

    • @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
      @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Před rokem +2

      I know a lot younger intelligent people would be hired if more companies looked at merit/ability rather than 'experience' and who you know.
      I would be excited to see what could be accomplished by giving them the right resources and guidance.
      ...Hmmm, maybe I can arrange something.

  • @sumikomei
    @sumikomei Před rokem

    This is so cool, I love seeing all of the various math and science that goes into something as externally simple as "how to cool a component". Absolutely love this kind of content, probably my favourite overall off the top of my head.

  • @IanSinclair77
    @IanSinclair77 Před rokem +5

    He was fantastic. Great presentation skills, enthusiastic and very professional. Well done.

  • @jasonjavelin
    @jasonjavelin Před rokem +20

    Mad lads, such an awesome video. That engineer kicks ass and was awesome on camera. What a chill and super knowledgeable guy in his craft

  • @drgngd
    @drgngd Před rokem +16

    Thank you GN for always trying to teach us something new every day. Your channel is amazing because you actually cover not just what the hardware is and what it's specs are, but why and how they're designed. I'm glad you're able to get engineers and other highly qualified people on for these kinds of videos. I'm also glad that your brutally honest reviews don't get in the way of manufacturers being willing to provide this expertise. Keep up the amazing work not only Steve but all of those who work at GN.

  • @jean-paulpitman2172
    @jean-paulpitman2172 Před rokem

    My new favorite video this year! Keep up the awesome content GN.

  • @thepowerplayer4530
    @thepowerplayer4530 Před rokem

    I really enjoyed this video, and this had to be probably one of my favorite GN videos, because it’s very rare (especially with nvidia) to get actual engineers to talk to the press, and they get to share all of the cool things they’ve been working so hard on. Also he was really enthusiastic about what he does and you can tell he really enjoys what he does, which just made the whole video so much fun to watch

  • @JustinSlayton
    @JustinSlayton Před rokem +30

    Gamernexus has really jumped from a good and informative CZcams channel to major tech news outlet. Honestly since moving into the new building I have truly seen an amazing jump in quality which is definitely saying something considering I already felt they gave high quality videos.

  • @captaindildar9581
    @captaindildar9581 Před rokem +52

    I can't stand the way NVIDIA operates in the industry but damn do they make some cool tech. Hats off to the engineers!

  • @muamercormehic4843
    @muamercormehic4843 Před rokem

    Steve you got me so hyped with the intro for this video. I love the deep dive and sience videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @harlenc1776
    @harlenc1776 Před rokem

    Great video. Thanks Malcolm for coming out and sharing!

  • @PerpetuallyTiredMusician
    @PerpetuallyTiredMusician Před rokem +10

    Behind every leather jacket and whitened smile on a stage there is hundreds of passionate people who actually make the darn thing. It does not make the asking price easier to swallow but hopefully it tempers and/or puts some of the more unreasonable reactions in perspective.
    This is great content, thank you.

  • @gcngba22
    @gcngba22 Před rokem +17

    This video is super educative and fun. Kudos to the NVDIA engineer, the nexus production team and the donors that make this Content possible. 👏

  • @yvesmillette1721
    @yvesmillette1721 Před rokem +1

    This is the most interesting and best video about PC components I have ever had the pleasure of watching.

  • @reconciliation86
    @reconciliation86 Před rokem +3

    Props to the guy from nvidia and whoever greenlit this project there. I've been glued to the screen for 30 minutes learning about cooling graphics cards while _feeling_ that nvidia is innovating. Great content! I hope there's more of this sort to come in future years.

  • @NewbGamingNetworks
    @NewbGamingNetworks Před rokem +10

    It’s amazing to finally hear the technical side of things. This is a “unique” generation where advertising like this works, so to some degree it makes sense why they did it.

  • @PHF28
    @PHF28 Před rokem +11

    It's always awesome to see the amount of knowledge, engineering and manufacturing work dedicated to things that are going to be hidden. And cool to see that NVIDIA recognised the marketing potential of this. Great job, Steve.

  • @dog_knight
    @dog_knight Před rokem

    Awesome video. I understood most, but not all of it. Incredibly interesting. Will have to watch it a few more times for it to sink in. It’s great to see all the effort that goes into these products and how passionate the people behind the leather jacket are.

  • @cassiohui
    @cassiohui Před rokem

    one of the best videos on the channel. please make more of these engineering deep dives.

  • @BrianPardee
    @BrianPardee Před rokem +9

    This was very neat. Thanks, Steve and crew for doing this video. It's these kind of technical videos which keep me engaged with GN compared to some other channels.

  • @christophercasale7961
    @christophercasale7961 Před rokem +5

    It's great to have a deep dive with someone who is both deeply knowledgeable and passionate. I learned a bunch of things about vapor chambers and fans today.

  • @hovant6666
    @hovant6666 Před rokem

    Incredible content this vid, my gratitude to you and Malcom!

  • @acatch22
    @acatch22 Před rokem

    Love the video. would absolutely like to hear more in-depth analysis and lessons learnt from their r&d, and see more of these types of videos in the future!

  • @Wintergreen56
    @Wintergreen56 Před rokem +4

    The fan calculations were great to hear about. These are some of my favorite types of videos from GN. It's great to hear all the information from someone who is so enthusiastic about it.

  • @Deltarious
    @Deltarious Před rokem +28

    Watching videos like this always makes me wonder what NVIDIA's engineers and technical staff *really* think of their company's marketing and pricing strategies and how they feel generally about the reputation of their company. It would be wildly inappropriate to go around asking in most cases, but when you have people this intelligent contrasted against the almost predatory tactics companies sometimes use I can't help but wonder.

    • @ApolloPS2
      @ApolloPS2 Před rokem +3

      I mean the real answer is that those "predatory" tactics help balloon their salaries so they can work amongst the best talent and develop high cost cards that still have healthy margins. This thermal engineering R&D costs serious money to obtain.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis Před rokem

      Most likely he has no idea how much everything costs. People working in finance know that way better

  • @Thardoc
    @Thardoc Před rokem +1

    My favorite video in a while, that was fascinating

  • @Shive1337
    @Shive1337 Před rokem

    This has been one of the most educational videos I've ever seen on your channel. Learned a lot, thanks!

  • @moonlightknight6877
    @moonlightknight6877 Před rokem +3

    Loving the in depth content! Thank you for your hard work GN team.

  • @Daishi0861
    @Daishi0861 Před rokem +4

    This was incredibly interesting, thank you so much for sharing this wonderful deep-dive. Couldn't have had a better person on to explain this, he was very technical while still understandable. I loved hearing about how you can actually dry out a vapor chamber and also the ways in which they combat it, I'd never considered that aspect and it seems like a pretty significant chunk of effort to get right!

  • @DogmaticShrew
    @DogmaticShrew Před rokem

    I love these in depth knowledge dumps. More of these and factory tours!

  • @shapelike
    @shapelike Před rokem

    I enjoyed how authentic this conversation felt and how informative if was. Really great content, fantastic guest.

  • @Gersberms
    @Gersberms Před rokem +4

    This is pretty much the best content of its kind. As geeky as it gets, but still show & tell with plenty to look at.

  • @Christopher_S
    @Christopher_S Před rokem +5

    GN you've once again contributed so much to learning for the community. Truthfully, I'm surprised that nVIDIA allowed an engineer to visit and share this knowledge. I am very happy to have watched this though, it's very interesting and informative. Thanks!

  • @Frustratedfool
    @Frustratedfool Před rokem

    “Essentially” one of the best videos I’ve watched this year. Loved it.

  • @peterkazmir
    @peterkazmir Před rokem

    This was a great video, thanks for doing it! Looking forward to part 2!

  • @TommyPanigale
    @TommyPanigale Před rokem +3

    Fantastic video. And a great reminder that there are highly talented people working behind the scenes to bring these incredible products into existence.

  • @jeffhampton6972
    @jeffhampton6972 Před rokem +43

    This is so much fun to watch. You two are the types that make people want to learn math because it's actually cool.

    • @Snarkbar
      @Snarkbar Před rokem +3

      Malcolm makes me want to go back and get a math PHD.

    • @Watchfulfox
      @Watchfulfox Před rokem

      Working at NASA did that for me.

  • @Wallguy
    @Wallguy Před rokem

    Wow, this is depth and insight we rarely see on the topic. Fantastic quality content GN!

  • @danielsegewitz6956
    @danielsegewitz6956 Před rokem +1

    more science stuff please. this was awesome. i could have listened for 2 more hours

  • @chrisfortune1813
    @chrisfortune1813 Před rokem +11

    Love the engineering overload. Odd how physics is physics and many of the concepts overlap different specific disciplines. I was an oilfield researcher in my younger days and the "rarefied" concepts of porosity and permeability were voodoo science (I am talking early '80s here) and now they are discussed in tech heavy but almost mainstream media conversation. This is one of the most enjoyable videos I have watched recently an I hope it is the prelude to many more deeper dives.

  • @freeroamer6962
    @freeroamer6962 Před rokem +3

    Ok guys, how refreshing was it to see a competent person explaining the decisions and problems overcome in the design of the new tech you're contemplating (possibly lusting after, for better or worse. lol) Kudos to GN for serving those of us who are really tired of the marketing arms of a lot of these tech companies. You have "tech junkies" who have been in this game longer than some of your employees, we want the nitty gritty, and even if its not some "gamer fueled" marketing blitz, we will still choose your product based on our understanding of the competance you displayed at solving the problems presented to you, because we understand that is what pushes technology forward, overcoming obstacles, and that doesn't always present itself with some new breakthrough, but by a foundational understanding of what is known to us now. I for one put this in my running for all time best breakdowns/explanations. (Also, I hope someone high up at Nvidia took notice of their boy being an actual "giga-chad", through foundational knowledge and a willingness to explain in detail. You can'tbuy passion like that.)

  • @QuakeGamerROTMG
    @QuakeGamerROTMG Před rokem

    Always great to see someone super passionate about their job so excited to share their knowledge

  • @stephenconley8469
    @stephenconley8469 Před rokem +1

    Amazing didn’t understand all of it but loved the enthusiasm and personality of the nvidia guy ,would love to see more content like this in the future.