The Series X has a monolith-like presence that I love, and the Series S is a minimalist throwback to the designs of Dieter Rams (From whom Apple has taken all their design inspiration). It has a modern sculpture-like appearance to it when in the vertical position.
PS4 OG is S tier. A perfect call back to the PS2 while still being a standout on its own. I love the 2 tone/material design, the angular shapes, and the blue light down the middle. Easy S tier.
ps4 pro is more premuim looking because of the matt and the silver colored ps4 logo at the top. love it. the OG ps4 is just cheap looking with the glossy cheap plastic at the top. the Wii is the best and ps1
@andrer4508 general concensus is that the Pro had too many layers. Didn't feel more or less premium to me. The minimal gloss on my ps4 og stayed scratch free. I'd agree the wii in white or black is goated
I love my ps5 but I think they were trying way too hard with the design. That thing looks ridiculous and needing the stand to lay it down is super annoying.
Always liked the GameCube, small and modular, different ad ons and controller accessibility, cd tray on top and opens like a cd player, the handle for traveling with it
@@SadCaligulathat’s because your a child😂 the ps2 og was a great looking console that nearly every console since has tried to live up to. It is factually the gold standard of game consoles, and that can actually be proven with math.
ps3 slim is S rank, just dones everything right ultimately pretty simple but nice matte black with physical buttons and a curve to keep it interesting.
This might be one of my favorite episodes of Gamescast! The topic was mad fun/entertaining and you guys were really locked in with great debate/conversation
They didn't sell the xbox 360 and ps3 redesigns as "you should replace your original xbox with this newer version" the way the One S & X were sold as "you should upgrade to this one its the next level up". The 360 and ps3 redesigns were sold as just what the consoles look like now for anyone new who's buying it.
One thing they didn't mention with the Sega Genesis is how great it looks with the cartridge in it. A Genesis with Sonic the hedgehog in it is a classic look. I don't think there's any other console that has the game set so closely related to the look of the actual console. S tier
“Tim: I hate that the 360 is white” Immediately after that, he puts the Wii (a white console) at S tier. What is the point of these if you just constantly contradict yourselves?
Please tell me this is a joke lmao. The Wii and the Xbox have completely different aesthetics. The original 360 is pretty ugly the original Wii is less ugly
@@DarthMagnus0605 this should definitely be done soon. I really don’t care for the OG PS1 because of the color (like Tim) but that startup sound is S tier number 1
Ahh yes, we all knew the Dreamcast took all it's influence from the GameCube, Roger... ... Dreamcast, that famously came out on 9/9/1999 took it's design influence from the GameCube, famously out 3 days after 9/11...
You didn’t know the Dreamcast was actually developed in 2003 and sent back in time. The swirl is actually burn marks from each console going back in time.
Tim has a personal vendetta against the GameCube for some reason lol. Dude is always hating on one of the objectively best designed consoles of all time
You guys really need to add the versions of consoles that had a significant redesign. The PS3 Slim and Super Slim were significantly different from the original PS3. I'm sure there would be several other consoles that have similar design overhauls.
Wii is absolutely S tier just for the glowing blue disc drive that would pulsate to let you know that a friend had left a note on the calendar asking if you want to play mario kart or that "you suck" or even an update. And the hidden Gamecube controller ports!?!? Omg it was perfect and that little green/orange power button light is chefs kiss mwahhhh.
The Commodore 64 home computer and the Commodore 64 console are two different things. The image on the tier ranking is the console, while the image you guys pulled up separately is the home computer; two different systems.
1:09:06 i was blindsided by what Tim said on the show on Wednesday. i would never condone anti-Dreamcast speech or encourage slander of that console's glorious game library in any form. after much reflection, i no longer feel it is appropriate to continue to defend Tim at this time, and all Tim-centric entertainment is now on hold. i am grateful to Sega fans for their support and understanding. 🙃
Andy consistently has the thoughts that I seem to mostly align with here and he seems to remove himself from bias and nostalgia best, like with the Wii U rating.
Watched this live and still can’t believe the madness that unfolded. We got lost after the GameCube generation, the PS2 was ranked S Tier on nostalgia alone, no Famicom on the list was insane. Also the Genesis deserved S rank and we all know it.
You guys did the Dreamcast really dirty. There is no way it should be in C tier. A at the very least but I’d put it in S. Clean looking, simple design, perfect size, everything. C tier and PS5 in A tier? Lmfaooooo
This list is pretty bad, PS2 in S tier for appearances is almost as atrocious as PS5 in A tier. OG Xbox and Xbox 360 should both be moved a tier up, the 360 is better looking than any other non-Nintendo console. Wii and GameCube are the top two for sure but I also think Genesis should be up there, and PS4 is also understandable as S tier.
SNES is S-tier, best looking console of all time. It made the Super Famicom look like a piece of trash in comparison. And since you ignored your rule about not talking about controllers, its the only console that ever had concave X and Y buttons and it was the best thing ever for platformers. Sega Genesis is a low C.
Wii was the one console where it could be on your tv stand, on your desk heck even sitting loosely on your balancing on text books and still look just as cool and good as it did in the highly produced marketing images in a magazine or online, its that pretty irl.
The Genesis Gen 2 is still a sexy beast. It is the Knight Rider of video game consoles so minimal and sleek. The Gen 1 Genesis looked nice back in the day but it looks dated to me now. I was a Sega kid too.
The original Xbox One release was way too big and looked outdated like a VCR. The S was great and the X more sleek than the S, they were great. Since they are only ranking original release of the consoles I agree though the launch One sucked.
1. You reall can't look at the Jag without including the CD player because thats what half of the design is for... and it's embarrassing. Pure F-tier. 2. At the same time, you guys did the TurboGrafx dirty by including it with the non-duo CD setup. On its own, it's not that bad. 3. PS5? *facepalm* 4. I would have put the Gamecube at the tippy top and I'm glad it got close. 5. Series X may be boring but it's the only one shaped the way it is almost entirely for function (aside from the Vectrex, I guess). Engineering-wise, it's kind of brilliant.
PS2 Slim is better looking than OG PS2 and ps2 is an A tier, it looked too busy with the all the ports and buttons everywhere and the blue box looked bad. PS2 slim was so crisp and clean and so so smol :D
Gamecube is the world's coolest Fisher Price product. King of B-Tier with "A-Tier energy". It's never been peak. It's like when the nerd gets a makeover but then afterwards settles for a happy practical medium, N64 but not embarrassing. Genesis is King of C-Tier. It punches up with unintentional swagger. Think Jack Black in Anchorman. Nothing else is that wild on this list. PS1 is maybe bottom of A-Tier, it's as slick as a console could possibly be for it's time but it's missing something. I'd like to think the Xbox's in general could be higher. I'd probably defend PS5 more than most but the plate fins look cheap, especially with white on black - a black PS5 could do A for me. Series S could go F or S, I have no idea, it's confusing to look at.
Unironically I love the new format because we get these silly episodes. This was so fun.
I thought the series x design was liked, it’s very simple and sleek. Putting it below the vcr box is a crime
They clearly don't like the minimalist designs for my Series X S they are at least A how you put the GameCube on S and not the Series X
I was really surprised by their reaction for the Series X too. I love the Series X design, and overall I like it more than the Series S design by far.
@@EXxileOnline I feel like it has to do with them having white setups. I have a dark setup and the ps5 sticks out like crazy
The Series X has a monolith-like presence that I love, and the Series S is a minimalist throwback to the designs of Dieter Rams (From whom Apple has taken all their design inspiration). It has a modern sculpture-like appearance to it when in the vertical position.
PS4 OG is S tier. A perfect call back to the PS2 while still being a standout on its own.
I love the 2 tone/material design, the angular shapes, and the blue light down the middle.
Easy S tier.
#1 all time
@@ChicagoBulls1984 Honestly, I might be there with you, dude.
It's so clean but also has a personality.
ps4 pro is more premuim looking because of the matt and the silver colored ps4 logo at the top. love it. the OG ps4 is just cheap looking with the glossy cheap plastic at the top. the Wii is the best and ps1
@andrer4508 general concensus is that the Pro had too many layers. Didn't feel more or less premium to me. The minimal gloss on my ps4 og stayed scratch free. I'd agree the wii in white or black is goated
We DEFINITELY need a Startup Screen Ranking/Tier list. So many S Tier console startups (I'm looking at you playstation and gamecube).
Great episode. Please do a handheld version of this!
Series X: "takes up too much space"
PS5: "..."
Overall good list but I despise the PS5 design and I can't believe it doesn't get more shit lol.
I love my ps5 but I think they were trying way too hard with the design. That thing looks ridiculous and needing the stand to lay it down is super annoying.
Always liked the GameCube, small and modular, different ad ons and controller accessibility, cd tray on top and opens like a cd player, the handle for traveling with it
Andy is the most sane person this episode. Y'all trying to put the Wii U at F and GameCube anywhere other than S is crazy 🤣
S Tier for me:
PS4, Xbox Series consoles, Gamecube, Atari 2600, Xbox 360 S & NES.
Ps2 is a rectangle. I have never thought it looked good.
Yeah, it feels like an object of the time. PS4 feels like they took a run at it again, if anything.
@@battlesat6 Thats when I knew this whole thing was biased.
The ps2 slims, especially the silver ones, looked fire. But the OG is literally just a black rectangle, I don't get it either.
@@SadCaligulathat’s because your a child😂 the ps2 og was a great looking console that nearly every console since has tried to live up to. It is factually the gold standard of game consoles, and that can actually be proven with math.
That's a mega hot take, wow
GameCube is so easily S-tier
Ooo for sure the handle so you can carry is was the best
The Dreamcast ranked C-Tier while the PS5 is an A-Tier is insane to me! 😧
For real. And the PS2 instant S-Tier is wild. It's a black box lol
@@andrewpharr33a black asymmetrical box too. Ps2 is barely D tier. Hate Sony designs.
PAL SNES way more iconic than NTSC/J
Super fun episode. Hope you do handheld next and controllers
ps3 slim is S rank, just dones everything right ultimately pretty simple but nice matte black with physical buttons and a curve to keep it interesting.
Agreed. I’m looking at it compared to my fat ps3 and it’s just like wow, these the same thing lol
This might be one of my favorite episodes of Gamescast! The topic was mad fun/entertaining and you guys were really locked in with great debate/conversation
"we wont use nostalgia"
uses nostalgia lol
They definitely used their personal feelings a few times.
They didn't sell the xbox 360 and ps3 redesigns as "you should replace your original xbox with this newer version" the way the One S & X were sold as "you should upgrade to this one its the next level up".
The 360 and ps3 redesigns were sold as just what the consoles look like now for anyone new who's buying it.
One thing they didn't mention with the Sega Genesis is how great it looks with the cartridge in it. A Genesis with Sonic the hedgehog in it is a classic look. I don't think there's any other console that has the game set so closely related to the look of the actual console. S tier
“Tim: I hate that the 360 is white” Immediately after that, he puts the Wii (a white console) at S tier. What is the point of these if you just constantly contradict yourselves?
Please tell me this is a joke lmao. The Wii and the Xbox have completely different aesthetics. The original 360 is pretty ugly the original Wii is less ugly
Simply put, the 360 is ugly. The Wii is not
Loved this episode! Please rank the console startup screens next
@@DarthMagnus0605 this should definitely be done soon. I really don’t care for the OG PS1 because of the color (like Tim) but that startup sound is S tier number 1
Ahh yes, we all knew the Dreamcast took all it's influence from the GameCube, Roger...
...
Dreamcast, that famously came out on 9/9/1999 took it's design influence from the GameCube, famously out 3 days after 9/11...
You didn’t know the Dreamcast was actually developed in 2003 and sent back in time. The swirl is actually burn marks from each console going back in time.
I forgot how cool the GameCube was ❤
GameCube should have been number 1. They did the perfect job of making a cube interesting to look at. I’d have PS4 as a close second.
Tim has a personal vendetta against the GameCube for some reason lol. Dude is always hating on one of the objectively best designed consoles of all time
Looks can’t really be objective but yeah I really love the look of the GameCube
@@aoBubs whether or not you like how it looks yeah but the principles of design are an objective philosophy. Which is what I was referring to lol
You guys really need to add the versions of consoles that had a significant redesign. The PS3 Slim and Super Slim were significantly different from the original PS3. I'm sure there would be several other consoles that have similar design overhauls.
Wii is absolutely S tier just for the glowing blue disc drive that would pulsate to let you know that a friend had left a note on the calendar asking if you want to play mario kart or that "you suck" or even an update. And the hidden Gamecube controller ports!?!? Omg it was perfect and that little green/orange power button light is chefs kiss mwahhhh.
The PS2 was wayyyy overrated just ugly box shape with weird ridges, the 360 with a symmetrical design was clean and awesome
Thank you! It was riding on nostalgia alone. It’s literally just a black rectangle.
I would rate the blue box the ps2 case in higher than the 360.
The Jaguar looks like something you find when cleaning a kid's room and no one knows what toy it's supposed to be a part of
It's crazy they didn't do the mid cycle redesigns for the NES or SNES
Og versions only for all of em
@@JoshJr98yeah I commented this mid watch lol kind of a bummer honestly
Roger needs to voice Gilgamesh in the Smurf Movie. He just gives me Smurf living in Harlem vibes
Gilgamesh?
@@Nergal134 I’m a dumbass, i was driving and texting. Gargamel!
@@Alilasiankid This is an insane series of comments lol
@@Alilasiankid yo stop texting and driving, my guy.
@@Nergal134 it’s hard, I live and breathe Kinda Funny. Also I have Greg in my will
The PS2 Slim is, for me, THE best looking console of all time. So compact, so perfect.
The Commodore 64 home computer and the Commodore 64 console are two different things. The image on the tier ranking is the console, while the image you guys pulled up separately is the home computer; two different systems.
I found myself screaming & cheering in the car over this episode in the best ways!
1:09:06 i was blindsided by what Tim said on the show on Wednesday. i would never condone anti-Dreamcast speech or encourage slander of that console's glorious game library in any form. after much reflection, i no longer feel it is appropriate to continue to defend Tim at this time, and all Tim-centric entertainment is now on hold. i am grateful to Sega fans for their support and understanding. 🙃
You guys needed to rank all the slim versions as well. Especially since they look completely different. Some of which should be S ranked imo.
I love how every Roger takes were basically "I want all my consoles to look like a toy for toddlers".
I don't understand how Tim, of all of the people at the desk, hesitated to make the Wii an S Tier. It's clean, it's white and it's blue. Crazy
I know this is all an opinion ranking, but isn’t it crazy that Andy, a dude with a GRAPHIC DESIGN background, was outvoted on that Genesis 😂 fun vid!
Andy consistently has the thoughts that I seem to mostly align with here and he seems to remove himself from bias and nostalgia best, like with the Wii U rating.
I wish I watched this live because all your early gen ratings are not just wrong but monstrous crimes against humanity.
Like what??
Where does Google Stadia land?
1:44:45 HEAR HEAR
Agree with everything he said, PS5 is one sexy spaceship
A little annoyed that the Master System II version was not featured. The MSII was a simple but awesome aesthetic design.
You guys just voted with bias, nostalgia, legacy and personal attachment.
They started out good and then once they got to Xbox it was all downhill from there all their bias was kicking in 😂
For sure they did haha
Just how I like it
The Kinda Funny SonyCast
That would be how a tier list works😂
Watched this live and still can’t believe the madness that unfolded. We got lost after the GameCube generation, the PS2 was ranked S Tier on nostalgia alone, no Famicom on the list was insane.
Also the Genesis deserved S rank and we all know it.
The ps2 is super sexy. Like it’s a sleek designed console.
8:16 in French a failing grade is E (for échec)
The OG PS2 at S-tier is absolute insanity.
You guys did the Dreamcast really dirty. There is no way it should be in C tier. A at the very least but I’d put it in S. Clean looking, simple design, perfect size, everything.
C tier and PS5 in A tier? Lmfaooooo
Did Tim forget the Wii U was also able to be put horizontal or vertical?
my black Wii U is standing vertical right now alongside the gamepad in its charging dock.
I have never screamed at a podcast more in my life. This list is terrible. Love the show. ❤
They needed the Famicom and the Super Famicom on that list. Both A tiers
OG PS4 is the best looking console ever made
😂
It’s up there but definitely not the best ever 😅
I don’t think this is meant to be some scientific list, it seems just like a fun thing to react along with. I enjoyed it!
Greg, in current time you will still find letters associated with the phone numbers. Check your iPhone. That is all.
Sega Genesis gen 2 is S tier. Simple. Elegant. Compact. Sleek. Goat.
I love having my big ol obelisk in my desk with my matching Sony monitor. Perfection
Great trip down memory lane, and good laugh along the way! Top episode folks!
we ARE NOT talking about the controller........then talk about the controllers for 2 hours. haha i love it.
This list is pretty bad, PS2 in S tier for appearances is almost as atrocious as PS5 in A tier. OG Xbox and Xbox 360 should both be moved a tier up, the 360 is better looking than any other non-Nintendo console. Wii and GameCube are the top two for sure but I also think Genesis should be up there, and PS4 is also understandable as S tier.
NTSC got shafted on the Snes compared to PAL. PAL is S tier every day of the week
gtfo with those fisher price colors and convex XY buttons lol
Greg’s reasoning made him sound super biased, but he’s right: the Wii’s design is absolutely goated.
SNES is S-tier, best looking console of all time. It made the Super Famicom look like a piece of trash in comparison.
And since you ignored your rule about not talking about controllers, its the only console that ever had concave X and Y buttons and it was the best thing ever for platformers.
Sega Genesis is a low C.
Super Famicon colors are dope tho.
I'm from US and the Super Famicon looks way better
@@jrob18mvp me too.
27:10 Greg at his absolutely filthy best!
Andy is a great artist! Idk if he should design consoles, lmao.
Loving the recent topics!!! Good stuff fellas
The Switch got some love, cause as soon as you realize it looks like it’s sticking out of the dock incorrectly, like it doesn’t fit.
Yall missed the Neo Geo CD - the greatest of all consoles.
I’d definitely like to see a handheld and controller version of this
OG PS4 is an all time great in terms of industrial design
I would flip the places of genesis and nes.
Wii was the one console where it could be on your tv stand, on your desk heck even sitting loosely on your balancing on text books and still look just as cool and good as it did in the highly produced marketing images in a magazine or online, its that pretty irl.
S tier episode
NES is an easy A the colors were everything and how well it matched with all the different accessories.
Whenever people say that KF isnt biased for Sony show them this video. lol
bro the neo geo cd and the sega Saturn kinda similar and time loves the Saturn lol
The lack of respect for the goat, the Xbox 360, is ridiculous!
The Genesis Gen 2 is still a sexy beast. It is the Knight Rider of video game consoles so minimal and sleek. The Gen 1 Genesis looked nice back in the day but it looks dated to me now. I was a Sega kid too.
Putting the PS4 under the PS2 is wild.
I know it probably doesn't count but the og halo Xbox with the green translucent is incredible and puts the black one to shame.
Xbox One and all it's iterations belong in D I can't believe how high they rank them lol. Above the Saturn theyre crazy.
The original Xbox One release was way too big and looked outdated like a VCR. The S was great and the X more sleek than the S, they were great. Since they are only ranking original release of the consoles I agree though the launch One sucked.
Just poor design takes from all of you
1. You reall can't look at the Jag without including the CD player because thats what half of the design is for... and it's embarrassing. Pure F-tier.
2. At the same time, you guys did the TurboGrafx dirty by including it with the non-duo CD setup. On its own, it's not that bad.
3. PS5? *facepalm*
4. I would have put the Gamecube at the tippy top and I'm glad it got close.
5. Series X may be boring but it's the only one shaped the way it is almost entirely for function (aside from the Vectrex, I guess). Engineering-wise, it's kind of brilliant.
I have agreed with andy on pretty much everything
Personal feelings got in the way a few times. The Wii U looks decent. Andy was the voice of reason except for his Genesis take lol.
PS2 was one of greatest consoles of all time, but to judge it for looks alone...it's really just a black rectangle
I make it Tim's new mission to make sure the Soulja Boy handheld gets ranked in the handheld follow up #finishthestory
You put the SWITCH at C? It’s the best looking console out there!
Y'all forgot the Magnavox Odyssey 2. Also Commodore 64 is a micro computer not a console.
PS2 Slim is better looking than OG PS2 and ps2 is an A tier, it looked too busy with the all the ports and buttons everywhere and the blue box looked bad. PS2 slim was so crisp and clean and so so smol :D
Dreamcast belongs in A tier
The PS5 slim would definitely be S tier
I'm with Andy on the Genesis :'D A crime was committed this day.
Gamecube is the world's coolest Fisher Price product. King of B-Tier with "A-Tier energy". It's never been peak. It's like when the nerd gets a makeover but then afterwards settles for a happy practical medium, N64 but not embarrassing.
Genesis is King of C-Tier. It punches up with unintentional swagger. Think Jack Black in Anchorman.
Nothing else is that wild on this list. PS1 is maybe bottom of A-Tier, it's as slick as a console could possibly be for it's time but it's missing something. I'd like to think the Xbox's in general could be higher. I'd probably defend PS5 more than most but the plate fins look cheap, especially with white on black - a black PS5 could do A for me.
Series S could go F or S, I have no idea, it's confusing to look at.
NES is just a gray box, and GameCube is a lunchbox
Xbox One X is my favorite of all. S tier
The slim PS2 is the best looking console :P
Should've graded the slim and 2nd gens too if you're grading the One S and X
SNES is my vote for the best looking console, nothing like it. Just looking at it releases endorphins in my brain. PS1 is my second and NES is my 3rd.
Definitely S-tier, Greg is the only sane guy here lol
I’ll say it I think the ps2 is ugly from most angles
The slim is S tier tho
Okay zoomer
If Teenage Engineering came out with the NES today everyone would froth it.
Please do handhelds