The Dress That Snatched Wigs In 1884 Paris: The "Madame X" Story [PL/ENG]
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- čas přidán 16. 12. 2019
- hi! remember to turn the subtitles on! here's the story of Amelie Gautreau and John Singer Sargent, and their imperfect collaboration that resulted in a scandal.
the book is in Polish, but if you'd like to get it anyway, here is where:
UK/Ireland: bit.ly/modowerewouk
Germany/Austria: bit.ly/modowerewode
Europe/rest of the world: bit.ly/modowerewoeu
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The dress looks very modern, like you could actually wear it to an event or something like that
clowny mcclown it lowkey exactly what natalie mariduena wore to the streamys 2019? that’s what i thought of immediately
Jennifer Lawrence wore it to the oscars I think
I have a BCBGMAXAZRIA dress that looks VERY similar (it's quite a bit shorter though!). I bought it solely because when my boyfriend and I first started dating, I wore another black dress (from H&M lol) and my boyfriend said I reminded him of the painting :)
clowny mcclown I’ve always thought so, too.
I would love to wear a copy of that dress to the Third Thursday cocktail party at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, where Sargent used to hang out with his buddy Isabella, and be all like; LOOK AT ME, I'M MADAME X!
Bruh that dress looks straight out of 2019 how??
That's because modern fashion recycles all the old trends. :D
It's a timeless black dress. Gorgeous!
@@JustIngrid86 ikr? Love it😍😍
time traveler
I agree, and there are a few reasons. Evening dress in the 19th century tend to be sleeveless and display some amount of your decolletage, however, they tend to have very wide straps with pleats, frills, lace and all sort of embellishments. I don't recall seeing shoulder straps look this skinny, like on Madame X, and they make her look almost uncover at her shoulder ( it's a more modern look). Secondly, the whole gown is soooo un-decorated, if you look at contemporaneous fashion prints you can see there were no shortage of frills and draping and bows and embroidery and shit.. on the skirt. That possibly makes the gown fit into the streamline, clean aesthetic we tend to see nowadays. Feel free to correct me or add more :)
I remember reading about a critic that liked it with the fallen strap because "one more struggle, and the lady will be free," meaning her bodice would fall down. To which Amelie responded that the dress had boning- you know, like normal 1880s formal gowns -and couldn't possibly have come off. Which just goes to show that creepers have never bothered to understand how women's clothing actually works.
This is great because it goes to show that he obviously doesn't get laid, or else he'd have probably held a dress in his hands before and known at least a tiny bit about something like boning... Eyy that was an unintended pun.
I guess you all's husbands/boyfriend's/brothers/etc must be perverts also, because I'm sure they've thought the same things.
@Death Omen If that's how you wanna "spin" and dress it up..... have at it.
@Death Omen If you think that your idea of grown and "proper" men don't do it, stay in your delusional world. KNOW that part....
@Death Omen I wasn't aware there was a time frame on when someone could comment on a comment. Like, OMG!!
Moral of the story: What looks like a disaster at first might actually lead to amazing oportunities.
There is no such thing as bad publicity
Every beauty youtuber ever lmao
Me: has no interest in fashion whatsoever
Me: doesn't speak Polish
Me: watches 9 minute long video about fashion in Polish because meme mom
Same! And I know I enjoyed it bc it seemed to be a 3 min. video to me
Educate us more meme mom!
Meme mom is like that one teacher that can make you like the class because they teach it well, even if you have no interest in the subject at first
There's English subs btw
her whole channel is literally about the history of fashion though....?
Things I’ve learned today:
1. people were just as prone to band-wagoning 150 years ago as we are today
2. Polish is faster than anime
We haven't really evolved for a very long time, and still counting. *sad noise*
People are always people. The kind of people that were bandwagoning before are doing it now, too. That's the whole human history. They don't create anything of value to live on but complain about everything.
Humanity, it's not super unpredictable.
If You are from Poland you'll understand Her very well
You mean the language is really fast?
All the non polish slavs watching this: Time to ascend and understand polish
Maja Draws ten komentarz to zloto. This comment is pure gold
This is so weird!!! Have you to have this weird feeling like. Okay I read english. And She said something you understand and you're going back to your language, but then you can't understand and reload your brain for english again. ( sorry for pour english)
(But I support her's vids with polish)
As a non-Polish speaking Brit, I can only hang my head in shame xP
@@arthurvalentine3524 That was me the entire video, don't worry. It's very distracting
@Dr.Science Yes. ;)
ah yes, the history of cancel culture... take notes twitter
oh my god 😹😹
Wow
The best part is this isn't even an irony and this is honestly terribly scary and funny hahahhaha
Twitter is a hellhole
Moral of the story.. cancel culture is hella old. Gives "Ok, Boomer." a whole new meaning.
ok, revolution kid :v
@@diana6echo you Said this as if it was a bad thing
@@diana6echo Ok, Jacobin :v
In high society social circles maybe... but some random John Smith wouldn't get fired because they said something on Twitter that the woke class found offensive.
GreyFolk oh you’d be surprised
karolina: *speaks polish for 0.2 seconds*
every slav ever: wonderful, amazing, show-stopping, totally unique, never the same-
Totally never done before
I can barely speak English and don't even know a word in Polish, but Polish sounds incredibly beautiful.
Awww thank you
I remember seeing this painting on a school trip and let me just say- that dress snatched my wig in the 21st century. I can't imagine what it would've been like seeing it unveiled...
1884
Nudes: meh
Exposed ankles: monocle-popping, but still meh
A strap falling off-shoulder: Everyone gets batshit crazy. Thinks it's a lead to degeneracy in society.
Nudes did not depict actual people
(In contrast, portraits were like pictures, they were meant to represent reality)
@kshiftkometh or saw their grandsons IN Pride =o
@@solarprogeny6736 What a peculiar distinction to make. Humans are strange.
Han Louise How is it peculiar...?
I draped and sewed this dress for a project at university. So now I have a gorgeous dress with a 22-inch waist, 30-inch bust.
I bet it looks beautiful! It sounded like a lot of work. 🤤
Her bust looks bigger than me though! Isnt 30in too little?
@@verybarebones Ah! Typo. More like 38 inches. But the purpose of the project was to extrapolate the materials and construction, not to match the measurements (who really knows what they were?). There were some other problems. You can't corset a mannequin and cinch its waist, so I had to pad the mannequin out at the bust and hips. I was stuck with the 22 inch waist.
I'm envious.
Karolina: this video is in polish
Me: [laughs in slavic]
👌🏻😂❤️
Sargent is one of my favorite artists, and this "scandalous" portrait was one of the first of his works that I fell in love with. Haters are always gonna hate, but true talent and beauty always stand the test of time!
I would so love a tshirt with NIEOGARNIETA TYPIARA written all over it, with some classical painted ladies xD
OoooooOoooh
This is the first time I'm hearing Polish and it sounds like the oddest mix of Russian and French, I love it.
Same here. I’m hearing a hint of spanish as well
Polish and Russian are both slavic languages
@@trishaaloo5281 ......next person who is telling that 😓😀 I don't know why xd
Same thoughts! 😯
As a French, it's nearly a French accent, but in an other language (except for the tchschschsch things)
19-wieczne "wrzucę na wystawę Paryską" = 21-wieczne "wrzucę na insta"
Dosłownie się teraz śmieję na podłodze, dziękuję!
2019: cancel culture is a new thing
1884: hold my wine!
Miss Steam it literally goes back to the beginning of human civilization I’m sure. People are always people no matter what the year:)
My mind JUST exploded 'cause
I'm russian native speaker learning czech
WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR ME TO FOCUS ON SUBTITLES OMG
Ikr??
I also kept switching from reading the subtitles, then listening and trying to understand polish, it's an experience.
Best of luck learning Czech to you, I can barely write it right as a native speaker!
Lmao nice! I'm czech learning russian:D
@@paadoxal really? Can we somehow contact each other for practice? I've been looking for someone like you for ages
@@majuskulle thank you❤ your language is quite challenging yeah 😁
meme mom: Bad news, this video in polish
Karolina's fellow citizens: Czy jestem dla Ciebie żart?
Mustafa Çom in Poland we actually use the english ,,am i a joke to you”, cause you can’t really translate it so it sounds okay sndnsnnd we use a lot of english slang actually (and google translator hasnt done you any favour either. i could translate it for you, so it isn’t wrong grammatically at least, but it’d sound weird anyways : (
@@user-ty1cz5kw3s Yeah, most of the time it is hard to have a proper translation for these kind of "slang/meme quotes", for us(Turkish) as well. But in this case, it needs to be in Polish for my joke.
Actually I prefer it in english, i found out she was Polish(yes ive seen surname but I just thought she was second generation of slavic family in the UK for example) months after Ive discovered her. First time I heard her speaking I thought it was a commercial 😂
true...
@@user-ty1cz5kw3s Some maybe use it in English but we do have a Polish substitute or however you want to call that. Odpowiednikiem byłoby "żartujesz sobie ze mnie?" albo "Jaja sobie robisz?" itd, więc trochę opcji jest
Thank you Karolina for letting me imagine John Singer Sargent saying "f*ck my life"....
We need “NIEOGARNIĘTA TYPIARA” merch cuz I haven’t seen a mood like that in a hot minute 👍👍
+100000
Dokładnie!
Thank you, Karolina. I enjoyed watching and listening to you in your native tongue. I would love it if you did more of these in Polish. In my opinion, we all need to expand our horizons and take in a little of the great wealth of culture, history, and knowledge that we are seldom exposed to.
The story about the painting of the porcelain-skinned French lass and the famous painter was quite interesting and, as you mentioned, much like something we’d see play out today, where people are all too ready to let everyone else decide for them while we then sit back in satisfied removal to judge from our self-appointed lofty perches.
Looking forward to your next.
No lie I got so excited when she said it was going to be in Polish. I don't speak or know any Polish but IT MAKES IT SOUND SO FANCY I LOVE IT
Myślałam, że powiesz: Wyjechał w pieruny z Paryża w Bieszczady. Ale Anglia i Stany też mogą być.
Jakby to ująć, *DO ZNIESIENIA ALE*
Pierwszy polski komentarz Łooo...
I find it so interesting listening to you in Polish! I'm from Czech republic so helloooooo neighbor! :D I didn't even had to put on the subtitles because I pretty much understood what you were saying :)
Tak zdravím do Polska :)
I always get so excited when you post Polish videos because I'm learning Polish and it helps when I'm learning both the language AND something I'm really interested in. I'm still a beginner but I'm picking out more and more words! Dzięki!
Powodzenia
And also we're sorry for the grammar 😂
same xD
Fedine I can help you with learning if you want ☺️ You can write to me on Facebook ☺️
I just noticed that around 4:08 you say something similar to ,, všetko na jedno kopyto", which is a slovak expression also and it just made me so happy 😁 (I'm slovak hehe)
wszystko na jedno kopyto! Slavs are one big family
thank you meme mom for inspiring me to learn polish! i'm still very new, so i don't know much yet and still had to use subtitles. please keep making videos in polish! love and support from america! jesteś najlepszy!
Lesson 1: Polish grammatical gender is hard af :-)
Powodzenia!
dzięki! potrzebuję tego lol
When auto generated spews literal gibberish then you realize there’s actual subs you just looked when the ad was playing not the actual video
Ahh, so much better. I can actually understand now 🤣 thank you!!
Anyone who complains about you speaking in your native language needs a reality check. I love your native language videos more. Kisses!
Moral of the story: Any press is good, either bad or worse.
Amelie Gautreau:Have been humiliated and outcased buuuuuut somehow made her famous
*Mission failed succesfully*
Was she famous for berets and cigars?
The first thing I read was snatched. I thought this video was gonna be about 'Wigs Snatched in 1884'. XD
anime onepiecelife SAME I literally got to THE END of the video and was like “wait there were absolutely zero wigs involved here” fml
I thought it was going to be about some design flaw where the straps get entangled in the hair and literally snatch their wigs off.
@@pielittlepony Same lmao
Wow, have never listened to the Polish language before: It's lovely!
And an iconic painting by an iconic American artist. Thanks!
Great that you like it :D People mostly say that Polish sounds just like destroyed radio or something like that :p I think it sounds lovely but I may be biased as a Polish myself.
@Natia N.N yep! Portuguese has very similar sounds! In Russian you pronounce words in little another way than in Polish, even though many words can be similar.
wow glad to know my skintone is UNNATURAL. Okay ANCIENT BOOMERS.
Ancient Boomers were the ones who lamented that pupils had become accustom to writing on slates and not papyrus or vellum.
@@DahVoozel those modern kids... what else? portraits en face?!
@@DahVoozel wouldn't that just be ancient rich brats tho? As in wasn't writing on a slate instead of on papyrus a thing people did bc papyrus was hella expensive especially when you consider that slates are reusable?
fancydeer That thought hasn’t really changed much either. I still get teased and bullied for being pale all the time ever since I was a kid 🤷♀️ people suck
@@alskarmode In this Midwestern town where tanning is the most popular pastime, no one says anything to me about my ultra pale skin but *damn* they stare a lot!
"nieogarnięta typiara", "nie wyrobię", "prawilny" "kicha" i was so curious how you translated all this that i've actually did the subtitle thingy, despite i didn't need it and boi that was cunningly well played. I bet you've spent more time translating this than making the actual video. And, obviously, a meme at the end only your polish viewers can understand, so you gave up :D
Yes! I couldn't stop myself from checking the subtitles to "Nieogarnięta typiara" :D I'm also Polish btw.
As a non-Polish speaker, what do those words mean that they are so hard to translate? I've tried learning Polish from Duolingo but stopped, currently looking for good lessons that will actually teach me the language, but I'm still a beginner so I don't understand at all xD
@@BlitzsieLDiscoLSnow It's Polish slang, hard to translate. I could try translating the meanings but it wouldn't be the same as in Polish tho
your hair looks so lovely today!! and this was truly fascinating. thank you for blessing us!!!
Yes, your hair style has a 1940's look about it.
*sets subtitles* :feels ready
meme mom starts speaking
*slows video down to 0.75*
Good idea 😂
Hearing people speak in different languages is so satisfying to me, so good. Never heard much polish, it's pretty 👌
I love hearing how easy you sound speaking in your own language and I am happy to hear the sounds (with subtitles for me to understand what you're saying, of course!).
I just wanted to say that, (I'm not a native english speaker either, but I don't speak polish) that I find it nice when people do videos in their languages, and if there are subtitles that means I can enjoy the video too. :) Now I'll continue to enjoy some historical clothing content :)
I've never actually heard Polish being spoken, it sounds so beautiful!
This is your first Polish video I've watched and straight away subscribed. Don't speak polish, kochanie, but absolutely loved everything about it. Please do more in Polish. x
I had no idea polish was so beautiful hahah love your video!
Girl, i never understood the ‘tea’ about this dress, only heard that it made drama, so thank u for this video uwu
doesnt really make sense even with the explanation. fallen straps were very common at this time... it probably had something to do with them just not liking her very much. On a different note, Besame cosmetics does make a lavender setting powder, wonder if that would be good for pale folk
Caligula Longhbottom after hearing the video, i agree with you a bit, but the thing is that they were upset for the ‘meme train’ (as karolina explains) more than the painting, so yeah
Caligula Longhbottom the lavender powder sounds interesting, I’ll look for it uwu
I studied polish for 6 months in my college days like... 8 years ago. And now I have the urge to return to my studies in order to understand what is written in your books!
Oh my goodness the Polish language is gorgeous! I’ve never heard it before, and it’s so pretty.
omg one of my favorite art history stories about my favorite post-impressionist by my fav fashion history youtuber!!! im in for a treat 💕💖
Loved this video and I have zero problems with you speaking polish. It's a beautiful language and the subtitles are really well done. I'd be perfectly happy to see more like this. It's amazing to see a dress that at the time was probably thought of as drab and common looking but that would match today's idea of high fashion that the super rich and fashionable would absolutely wear.
So I’m from Ukraine, n at first I was like “damn I hate reading subtitles” n then at one point i started understanding Polish wtf
yeah i'm russian but i speak ukrainian and i can hear recognizable words it's weird
Blackkinnon exactly, that’s like a language you never knew you know
I'm bilingual (Polish and English) but I understand a bit of Russian and Ukrainian, because there are many uni students from there in my city and my favourite thing is when they are talking something about me and I turn back to them and say in Polish 'you know I understood everything that you said' and the look of terror on their faces is just great ;D
Natalia Chmielowiec damnnnnn girl
@@mariakibets6105 I'm pure evil :D
"Hey man, if you don't take that painting down my sons will challenge you to a duel."
- Amelie's mother, some time in the 19th century
I love this story--especially listening to it in Polish and reading the subtitles! Please do more! This will get me through quarantine here in California!
I think this is my new favorite video of yours, I love your narrative and how you explain everything, and as someone who is currently concentrating in studying neoclassicism and realism (plus I stan Sargent) this was a great watch! I hope you make more of these in the future
I’ve never heard Polish spoken before watching this video. It’s such a beautiful language! I wouldn’t be opposed to more Polish videos in the future.
ale dziwnie się słucha jak mówisz po polsku
Cały czas mam wrażenie, że mówi w obcym języku xD
A ja mam wrażenie że mówi inna osoba xd
this has been one of my favourite paintings for many years, thank you for making a video about the story behind it. ^^
I love the amount of research you do! I’m sure your book is fabulous!! Sargent is actually my favourite painter of all time and I love the Madame X painting though she does have weird looking skin. Thanks for the story!
Wow pierwszy odcinek od dawna po Polsku, nasza Memiczna Matka ™️ nas rozpieszcza 💖
Pozdrowienia z chłodnych Mazur!
Memiczna matka brzmi jak jakiś organ
@@californiadreaming1226 zapewnia przetrwanie do następnego filmiku, sooo...
Memiczna xD mogę zasugerować coś bliżej "Memowa"?
Karolina M Memowa lepiej by to oddawała, bo "memiczna" to bardziej skłonna do robienia z niej memów, a tu Karolina sama robi memy, więc jest prędzej memowa :P
@Terrus Ciekawostki @Karolina M może Karolina od memów 😜
i love how this is a historical story but meme mom says it in a way that she could be sitting on the bus talking on the phone
please do more videos like this! it was so interesting and i learned a lot. the way you talk about history is great.
I just fell into this rabbit hole of your CZcams videos and I feel knowledgeable now.
This tripped me out, my dad's got a print of this piece of artwork on his wall and I was staring at the thumbnail trying to remember where I had seen it before haha
It is fairly strange to listen to Polish with English subtitles on when you are Czech.. It all mixes together, but just in your head :-D Great video ! :)
Nothing wrong with reading subtitles, hun. Love your videos; this was so informative
Trochu som Ti rozumela :D I’ve discovered your channel today and I can’t stop watching your videos 🤗 sending kind regards from Slovakia
Karolina ALWAYS snatches my wig.....just sayin...
Rav 💙💙💙💙
One of my favorite painters! I believe I saw this painting along with several others in Seattle many years ago. Lovely to listen to your Native language.
Thank you for sharing! I read a biography about Sargent and the portrait and it was fabulous!!
I love this content!!! More please! (I always have CC on so when you told me to turn on subtitles, I'm like I'M AHEAD OF THE GAME)
SO interesting! Everyone wanted to meet her and see her deadly looking skin. Thank you for the story time!!
i really like the way languages i don’t understand sound. it’s like hearing a new song. it’s something you haven’t heard yet and it’s interesting.
Świetnie to opowiadasz! ♡ współczesnym językiem przenosisz nas w świat XIX w. Paryża w którym dzięki Twojej narracji świetnie się odnajdujemy ❤
GIRL YOUR HAIR LOOKS SO GOOD THOUGH
I am french and I have Polish ancestors (my great-grandparents) and I would love to learn this language, it sounds really good!
Meanwhile I'm trying to apprendre Francais :) Greets from Pologne.
When her English is so fabulous that you forgot she “also” speaks Polish 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the subtitles! This was an interesting video! Loved it.
I do not mind reading the subtitles and any of your videos being in polish. In fact. I find it enriches my experience with your channel. I cannot understand a word of polish but I enjoy hearing it And love that you sometimes give us videos in it!!
omg what "bad news" Polish sounds Beautiful As Heck™!!
Thanks ;) Greetings from Poland!
I love this painting, so this was fascinating to hear the story behind it! you're a wonderful storyteller
Karolina, I love the way you spell your name, I cant throw enough shine and compliments your way. Simply put, your passion is inspiring to me.
I was lucky enough to see this portrait in an exhibition about Sargent a few years ago, in Madrid. It's outstanding. Sargent's talent was immense.
Watching a polish video subtitled in english about a french story, when i'm french
I see you 😂 I’m a French Canadian who grew up speaking a similar Slavic language and this was a whole mess of languages for me
Love this! Love random stories about history. This was a good one.
I have been away for a little time and YOU HAVE A BOOK NOW?? OMGGG
If you remember correctly...
Were you there, Karolina? Lol, Vampire Meme Mom!
The feeling you get, when your Meme Mom hearts your stupid comment... 💕❤️😍
"Nieogarnięta typiara" - yup, that's me
This painting definitely snatched my wig the first time I saw it! It Was one of the first ones I remember stoping and staring at for a long time and reading the whole story about. I remember being so shocked when I learned about the painted over strap. Love the video!
Fascinating! Thank you for doing the video.
Wow! Polish sounds so beautiful! Love my Slavic lady!
Me when she said "scandal' and "elegance": yeah i speak fluent Polish
i going through your channel after watching your video about corsets and can i say how happy i am that you made a video in polish? i don't speak it at all but i love listening to people talking in their native language + it's nice to watch videos that aren't in english
I appreciate the awesome subtitles to at least have the opportunity to understand a bit what you're talking about 🤗😁
Loved that art-related subject! :)
i'm learning polish so i could be able to read your books!! let me say, shit ain't easy.
Hahahahaha "dobra, laska jest znana, wyszło, myślę że jest spoko" Reminds me of "Drunk History"
really awesome vid! thanks for the subtitles, the topic was really interesting
The best video about this subject I have seen so far! Great job!
I don't understand Polish, but my native is Ukrainian. So I'm reading English subtitles, but than hear something very similar to Ukrainian, my language switch clicks and I suddenly can't read English text anymore, as my brain is trying to find Ukrainian words in it.
What an experience, honestly.