Firearms Expert Reacts To Battlefield 1’s Guns PART 2

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down more of the weaponry of Battlefield 1, including the Cei-Rigotti rifle, the Hellfighter M1911, and a range of experimental period weaponry from the early 20th century.
    00:00 - Opening
    00:52 - Hellfighter M1911
    03:20 - Howell Automatic Factory
    05:45 - IMG 08/18 Low Weight Machine Gun
    07:26 - M1907 SL Sweeper
    08:53 - M1903 Experimental
    11:19 - Martini-Henry Infantry
    13:14 - M1917 MG Low Weight
    14:16 - M1909 Benét-Mercié
    15:27 - Cei-Rigotti Factory
    17:06 - RSC SMG Factory
    18:07 - ‘The Medicine’ Russian 1895 Sniper
    19:54 - SMG 08/18 Factory
    21:34 - Sjögren Inertial Slug
    22:33 - Ending
    In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of Battlefield 1 and compares them to their real-life counterparts.
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Komentáře • 888

  • @MalEvangelion
    @MalEvangelion Před rokem +3662

    they REALLY updated the Wikipedia page for Cei-Rigotti in not even an hour
    for you whoever did that, my most respect for you

    • @blackm4niac
      @blackm4niac Před rokem +368

      with a link to this video as a source.

    • @Heegaherger
      @Heegaherger Před rokem +210

      @@blackm4niac As it should be.

    •  Před rokem +78

      @@blackm4niac I checked for curiosity :D but the link is broken

    •  Před rokem +102

      Link fixed. Show yourself, wikipeditor 😄

    • @frankglynn8209
      @frankglynn8209 Před rokem +8

      Mission accomplished good work!

  • @Krankenkarl
    @Krankenkarl Před rokem +587

    When John Wicks gonna buy his next guns, I want Jonathan to be the salesman

    • @Tr4wnet
      @Tr4wnet Před rokem +27

      or the AK-50 guy

    • @mamibufi
      @mamibufi Před rokem +54

      Or Gun Jesus

    • @KSmithwick1989
      @KSmithwick1989 Před rokem +46

      @@Tr4wnet Or just have multiple people working at an underground armory....then also add in Ian McCollum.

    • @TheSimpleMan454
      @TheSimpleMan454 Před rokem +15

      Now that would be a solid cameo.

    • @nathanaeljaeck6120
      @nathanaeljaeck6120 Před rokem +10

      He is just going to sell him a bunch of EM2's

  • @edm240b9
    @edm240b9 Před rokem +1436

    Fun Fact: the reason the Howell rifle has bipod on it is because Ian from ForgottenWeapons covered it on his channel, the rifle featured a bipod that was added on afterwards. It was a period correct bipod, but he did say that it wasn’t part of the rifle.
    It is also worth pointing out that Ian was also in contact with the weapon animators at DICE and he’s in the credits of the game.

    • @anter176
      @anter176 Před rokem +42

      It's also related to how it fits into the game

    • @aceofcheems7685
      @aceofcheems7685 Před rokem +141

      So technically that small mistake was caused by gun Jesus himself and now he's technically part of it

    • @ElMarcoHoJ
      @ElMarcoHoJ Před rokem +2

      Best Medic gun

    • @darthvader9173
      @darthvader9173 Před rokem +2

      @@ElMarcoHoJ nah selbstlader 1906

    • @vauxittt
      @vauxittt Před rokem +2

      @@darthvader9173 I wouldn't say that either of them are really better than each other, cuz even though Selbstlader 06 has 5 rounds more in the mag and a noticeably smaller recoil, Howell has a faster fire rate and a bipod which really helps on long range, so idk

  • @R_Grey032
    @R_Grey032 Před rokem +1101

    As a modder for H3VR I have to thank Jonathan for finally revealing what Cei-Rigotti's extended trigger does. Being a VR firearm simulator it's really important to get the functions right and I've never thought about it being a bolt release, even though a number of self-loading rifles of this time also used trigger for that.

    • @arbiter1er
      @arbiter1er Před rokem +45

      Oh hey, Greythorn! Big fan of your BF1/BFV gun ports to H3VR. I assume you'll add this functionality to your own Cei-Rigotti right?

    • @Thure.
      @Thure. Před rokem +13

      Nice seeing you here kapitan

    • @banhammer7243
      @banhammer7243 Před rokem +9

      Cei-Rigotti was my favourite weapon in BF1, I even made a second account for BF1 and played nothing but medic and used this gun!

    • @R_Grey032
      @R_Grey032 Před rokem +18

      @@arbiter1er When I get the time, yes. Good to hear that you're enjoying them!

    • @TDakaNuigoFtrmarket
      @TDakaNuigoFtrmarket Před rokem

  • @1997Awesomedude
    @1997Awesomedude Před rokem +376

    0:57 this is what makes this series so much better than most other "Expert React" style videos. Jonathan understands what concessions have to be made to realism in the name of gameplay, because he actually plays video games

    • @patrickbyrne5070
      @patrickbyrne5070 Před rokem +47

      Yep. Dude gets visibly happy seeing the attention to detail. Also, despite him likely putting less down a range than others, he has a flippin armoury to pick from. Especially when it comes to these ww1/ww2 era weapons he’s able to just pull v rare stuff out and has great knowledge of each.

    • @Orinslayer
      @Orinslayer Před rokem +21

      Also like, most of those videos the supposed experts aren't even given any info about anything just given visuals. It's super annoying and un-genuine.

    • @DaraGaming42
      @DaraGaming42 Před rokem +1

      That’s what I love about him, he’s baicly a proper Nerd

  • @NoMoreCrumbs
    @NoMoreCrumbs Před rokem +505

    For the IMG08/18, the German army's attempts to make the MG 08 into a mobile platform led to the 08/15 modification, which was still ungodly heavy. This led to the German phrase "null acht funfzehn", which means "something unremarkable or not noteworthy." The literal translation of the phrase is "zero eight fifteen"

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime Před rokem +46

      Yep, the WW1 German military did not make a light machine gun really. They just put a shoulder stock and a few other changes to the MG 08, it works but not very well.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před rokem +52

      Yes! This is in my firearms folklore list. Hopefully to become a book one day :)

    • @Lomi311
      @Lomi311 Před rokem +4

      C&Rsenal did an awsome evaluation of that and most LMGs of WW1 in Project Lightening with Ian from Forgotten weapons. It honestly did better than you’d think.

    • @mikeblair2594
      @mikeblair2594 Před rokem +5

      Indeed that is how 08/15 is said in German.

    • @kuehlschrank4389
      @kuehlschrank4389 Před rokem +6

      Well now I know that the seemingly random sequence of numbers, commonly used to describe something as ordinary or average in my Language, comes from the development of the MG 08/15 in WW1 by germany. Nice fun fact to know

  • @artemisfowl52
    @artemisfowl52 Před rokem +371

    R Lee Ermey picked up and shot a Browning 1917 on camera in an episode of Mail Call. I imagine the DICE research team saw that episode and used it as justification to have a mobile 1917.

    • @rbgerald2469
      @rbgerald2469 Před rokem +78

      Also the story of John Basilone.

    • @mcintoshpc
      @mcintoshpc Před rokem +7

      Hey yknow what
      Fair enough lol

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Před rokem +55

      Its one of those things that _can_ be done by _some_ people, and I suppose the justification is that the player character is above adverage by default.

    • @rokairu0-216
      @rokairu0-216 Před rokem +36

      @@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz considering you constantly run ~6 meters a second, our characters are definitively above average (we know the run speed via in-game distance tests and files)

    • @primeministersinister625
      @primeministersinister625 Před rokem +7

      There was a guy who got the medal of honor hipfiring one if I remeber correctly, I think Ian McCollum has a video about it out there somewhere

  • @SonicsniperV7
    @SonicsniperV7 Před rokem +176

    The Howell's bipod is *probably* based on the one Ian of Forgotten Weapons showed off, which someone had added a bipod to

  • @boat02
    @boat02 Před rokem +154

    7:02 - The AA sights are the modern FPS game's weapon customizations. Referring to what Jonathan said on the COD WW2 video, it's a way of slipping in some Modern Warfare into a WW1 game. It functionally is a modern optical sight without being a modern optical sight in a WW1 setting.

    • @pedroocs13
      @pedroocs13 Před rokem +20

      In bf1 they added the lens sight for a bunch of weapons that never used that too. In ww2 games, they put the nydar sight and the mk3 sight too.

    • @boat02
      @boat02 Před rokem +11

      @@pedroocs13 yup, he briefly went over the MP18 optical on part 1, so the AA sights here serve the same game design purpose

  • @caprise-music6722
    @caprise-music6722 Před rokem +96

    3:30
    Tired of having to cycle your rifle by hand? *Well now, There’s a solution!*
    Howell Automatic Rifle

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon Před 2 měsíci

      Trouble at home? It works on the Irish!

  • @madjoe8622
    @madjoe8622 Před rokem +154

    Making a ww1 game was genius. So many weird and fun guns.

  • @jameslawrence2446
    @jameslawrence2446 Před rokem +99

    A few notes/corrections to offer!
    * The Howell does seem to have been intended to be fired from a bipod. All known examples have cuts just behind the barrel band which are designed to support some kind of mount. The example that Ian from Forgotten Weapons examined in the US has a reproduction bipod fitted to these cuts; both examples in the Royal Armouries have the cuts but no bipod. I suppose the bipods were probably removed at some point.
    * The Winchester 1907 was actually used in WW1; a pretty sizeable batch was delivered to the French Air Force for issue to aviators (since SLRs were popular aircraft weapons before mounted MGs became common), and there are even a handful of photos of French infantrymen carrying these guns. However the French contract model only had a 10-round magazine, not a large extended magazine as shown in the game, and the supposition that the French converted these guns to full-auto is a myth based on a modern misunderstanding of the term "fusil automatique" (which back then meant "self-loading", not "fully-automatic").
    * There are two Chauchat-Ribeyrolles "submachine guns" still in existence today; both at the Musée de l'Armée in Paris. The first prototype, i.e. the version shown in the game, is a conversion of the RSC Mle 1917 rifle, while the second more closely resembles the Chauchat and actually feeds from 20-round Chauchat mags (which I think was featured in CoD WW2 but I can't remember). The intention behind these guns was for issue to tankers as port firing weapons. It is interesting to note that while these guns are clearly not actually SMGs, they were referred to at the time as "Pistolet-Mitrailleurs" or "Machine Pistols", which is the French term for submachine gun.
    * The "SMG 08/18" was designed by Schwarzlose in 1918 and was intended to be a contemporary competitor to the Bergmann MP 18. However it had not been completed by the time the MP 18 was adopted and therefore it was never seriously considered for adoption. If I recall correctly, Schwarzlose attempted to flog this design to the Austro-Hungarians after it failed in Germany, and also demonstrated it to the Dutch Army, but nothing ever came of it.

    • @nichtengale
      @nichtengale Před rokem +8

      Hi, thanks for the info! I'm really interested in the history of the "SMG 08/18" but haven't managed to find much on the web. Could you please let me know where you got your info from? Would love to learn more about it.

    • @KeksimusMaximus
      @KeksimusMaximus Před rokem +1

      🤓🤓🤓

    • @Cakesadamant
      @Cakesadamant Před rokem +2

      Very interesting and infotmative!

    • @Brian-tn4cd
      @Brian-tn4cd Před rokem +2

      CodWW2 just called it the Ribeyrolles, its great in the Zombies mode as bullets turned explosive upon being upgraded

  • @atemoc
    @atemoc Před rokem +74

    At this point, this channel can be Jonathan game guns review channel haha
    Keep up the great work!

  • @cameronsizemore2928
    @cameronsizemore2928 Před rokem +102

    Dude you know you're gonna have to keep making videos on BF1 weapons until you've covered them all, right? It is NEEDED! Great vids

    • @Lomi311
      @Lomi311 Před rokem +6

      Yes! Part 3 pls! So much research must have gone into guns for this game! Check out C&Rsenal for the real gun’s history and shooting.

  • @otbc1999
    @otbc1999 Před rokem +44

    Whenever we see our boy Jonathan see cursed stuff we should put the Godfather quote "look how they massacred my boy" especially with the stg44 showings. Btw that smile at the start will make us all wholesome. The goat!

  • @gabed.101
    @gabed.101 Před rokem +96

    Gamespot I hope you treat Jonathan like royalty. He's as amazing as ever. Would love to see if there's any games he'd specifically like to review.

  • @MasterDomolvl
    @MasterDomolvl Před rokem +202

    I didn't think the IMG 08/18 Low Weight Machine Gun can be that enormous

    • @tntkit
      @tntkit Před rokem +19

      It's ww1 after all. Didn't have much of those small precise parts.

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 Před rokem +25

      @@tntkit nah, it was just that germany didn't have time to develop a proper LMG and just turned their MG 08 into one.
      Other countries had smaller LMGs

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před rokem +5

      Well the Maxim is a huge gun, a lightweight version will retain most of the bulk since the lightening is on the barrel jacket

    • @isaacmayer-splain8974
      @isaacmayer-splain8974 Před rokem

      @@ArcturusOTE Maxim was WW1 iirc

    • @Chaosrain112
      @Chaosrain112 Před rokem +4

      It's "Low Weight" relative to the "normal" one.

  • @TyrannusAvarus
    @TyrannusAvarus Před rokem +48

    Yessss, I was hoping they would do more of BF1. Modern shooters tend to all have the same guns and future settings all you can do is guess inspiration. This is where Jonathan's knowledge and the RA's collection can really shine.

    • @Lomi311
      @Lomi311 Před rokem +1

      Yes! Part 3 pls! So much research must have gone into guns for this game! Check out C&Rsenal for the real gun’s history and shooting

    • @scottjs5207
      @scottjs5207 Před rokem

      Did BF5 include the Coender belt-fed SMG Gun Jesus covered? That would be a cool one for Johnathan to cover and maybe we could finally get a wiki page for it. Weird guy, weird gun, would like to know why the Maltese ended up with it.

  • @myfaceismyshield5963
    @myfaceismyshield5963 Před rokem +60

    His pronounciation of Sjögren was actually pretty good.
    I'm Finnish, and Finland's swedes (one of Finland's largest minorities) pronounce it in a totally different way, but swedes in Sweden pronounce it just like Jonathan did, so to my ear it was pretty accurate.

    • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Před rokem +2

      No it wasn't. I'm Swedish and I didn't even understand what he was saying until he spelt it out lol. Not attacking him, it's difficult pronouncing other languages, but that was not a good pronunciation.

    • @myfaceismyshield5963
      @myfaceismyshield5963 Před rokem +19

      @@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa from the standpoint of him not being swedish. You are literally just being mean. Most people would attempt to pronounce the s and j instead of just doing the closed aspiration, like you're supposed to. He tried to aspirate and the knowledge that you're supposed to do that is honestly impressive from any English speaker, since in their language you would never even think about doing that with "sj" followed by a vowel

    • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Před rokem +2

      @@myfaceismyshield5963 As I said, I'm not attacking him. Foreign languages are hard. But to say his pronunciation was accurate is just... not true. The very thing you're praising him for, his aspiration with the SJ, was what he butchered. He got the umlaut spot on. But "Sj" is not pronounced like "H" like he did. He said "Högren" not "Sjögren". Sj is not pronounced H, no Swede would ever recognize that as such.
      If he had pronounced the S and the J it would had been better and I probably would have understood he was trying to say "Sjögren"

    • @liammeech3702
      @liammeech3702 Před rokem

      Was this gun popular in the sports/hunting communities in both countries then?

    • @myfaceismyshield5963
      @myfaceismyshield5963 Před rokem +1

      @@liammeech3702 I have no clue on that. I'm not a gun enthusiast.
      I just know how Swedes pronounce words and names... Sjögren is just a fairly regular last name in Sweden. According to a statistic at alltomnamn, there's nearly 10,000 people with that last name, in Sweden alone
      (in Finland there are only around 500 Sjögrens, but they pronounce it differently)

  • @jewishspacelaseroperator5410

    The Martini Henry was used in Ww1, unofficially on the front lines a bit, but also in an official capacity by airmen to shoot down enemy balloons!
    The RSC SMG was also used in a limited capacity. It was made through a not very well standardized process which involved cutting down an RSC rifle, which was already uncommon. It was given to some tank crews to try. They generally disliked it but used what they had for the few months/weeks until the war ended.

    • @BunThighsLol
      @BunThighsLol Před 8 měsíci +1

      Is there proof that the RSC SMG was used? And was just a cut down RSC 1917? I *sincerely* doubt that.

    • @lastofchristianbyzantineem4935
      @lastofchristianbyzantineem4935 Před 5 měsíci

      Find it on the Internet my guy​@@BunThighsLol

    • @bjchit
      @bjchit Před 3 měsíci

      Plus a lot of African troops used them, thanks to leftovers from Britain's colonial days.

  • @Flyhi_Photography
    @Flyhi_Photography Před rokem +30

    These videos never get old. I get a warm and fuzzy feeling every time i see a new video in my feed. Thank you Jonathan!

  • @UngoliantsSchatten
    @UngoliantsSchatten Před rokem +6

    The Cei Rigotti wikipedia article is already updated btw if you were wondering. Took less than an hour.

  • @duncanchestnut5583
    @duncanchestnut5583 Před rokem +45

    I love how even the firearms expert who's job is to literally nit-pick games has to admit the addition of the Martini-Henry is cool.
    Whoever did the sound design for that thing deserves a medal!

  • @no-replies
    @no-replies Před rokem +17

    You got me playing battlefield 1 again. Using some of the wackier guns and absolutely loving it.
    It's really cool seeing my main guns get analyzed.

  • @rin-joh8644
    @rin-joh8644 Před rokem +44

    I was incredibly hyped when I saw the RSC SMG appear. I love that hunk of junk.

  • @brianbisbee1791
    @brianbisbee1791 Před rokem +31

    I've been waiting forever for this! Glad to see Bf1 getting so much love lately. Been my go to since it came out and the player counts have been great recently. Its a rare game that just gets it all right despite the time period being so unfamiliar for most fps games.

    • @frankglynn8209
      @frankglynn8209 Před rokem +4

      I got this game for €5 about a year or two ago and I've been playing it every time servers are available. I love its vehicles, weapons, styles, everything really!

    • @ElMarcoHoJ
      @ElMarcoHoJ Před rokem +2

      My favourite shooter of the past gen. Absolutely love it. Multiplayer masterpiece.

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits Před rokem +1

      Makes you wonder how they went from hitting it off to complete melted plastic just a few years and one game later

  • @avilhelm1697
    @avilhelm1697 Před rokem +45

    The RSC SMG was in fact called a submachine gun in real life by the French, pistolet mitrailleur (PM). It's built, as its name suggest, on the RSC 1917 semi-auto rifle but converted to take a longer clip and fire in full auto as a tank port fire weapon. The second model could take an entire Chauchat magazine.

    • @sleeplessindefatigable6385
      @sleeplessindefatigable6385 Před rokem +8

      That is WILD. Even as a tank port fire weapon, I cannot imagine the recoil of essentially an Obrez RSC rifle firing an entire Chauchat magazine full of full size Lebel rounds to be anything short of horrifying.

    • @avilhelm1697
      @avilhelm1697 Před rokem +6

      @@sleeplessindefatigable6385 Which is exactly why they didn't adopt it :P

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před rokem +19

      Ah, good catch, thank you.

    • @sleeplessindefatigable6385
      @sleeplessindefatigable6385 Před rokem +5

      @@jonathanferguson1211 Hey, just wanted to take the opportunity to say that I really like your t-shirt collection. One of the unspoken highlights of this series is seeing what unusual t-shirt you'll be wearing. Thanks for doing these videos, and that info on the Cei-Rigotti's bolt release was fascinating, so thanks again.

    • @KeksimusMaximus
      @KeksimusMaximus Před rokem

      But could it take my BWC 😏🤨

  • @AE1OU
    @AE1OU Před rokem +15

    Please Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons. (Please like the comment so gamespot can finally see it)
    So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
    There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video that isnt just more call of duty or tarkov (as much as I love those series) it just feels stale now revisiting the same games for multiple videos.

    • @gorillahamada4110
      @gorillahamada4110 Před rokem

      Doubt it, they only make videos for battlefield, tarkov and call of duty 🤣

  • @Canadianvoice
    @Canadianvoice Před rokem +27

    The cool thing about the m1903 experimental is that if you equip k bullets and equip them your player will swap out the whole Pederson device and install a bolt with the k bullet. It's one of the most unique reloads in the game if not ever.

    • @thomasshermane8644
      @thomasshermane8644 Před rokem +5

      You don’t need to use k bullets, simply press the changing firing mode key and the m1903 will become a infantry bolt action, like in the video.

    • @Dourkan
      @Dourkan Před rokem +1

      @@thomasshermane8644 Usually the "V" key.

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits Před rokem

      Luckily you can just skip the whole animation and switch weapon twice to make it happen immediately

    • @Canadianvoice
      @Canadianvoice Před rokem

      @@thomasshermane8644 I wasn't aware of that. I thought the firing mode only worked for semi auto auto like in most rifles cool

    • @edwardking9359
      @edwardking9359 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@CanadianvoiceI don't believe changing between the pistol and regular bolt action modes was possible on release, so that might be why you don't remember it.

  • @No_Feelings
    @No_Feelings Před rokem +14

    Im so happy this game is having a revival. As someone who has played day in and out for ages now, it was sad to slowly see the playerbase keep hemorrhaging users. It got to the point where you could only find a match on conquest with only enough players to fill like 2 custom server browser lobbies. See you boys in the trenches!

  • @SomaticApparition
    @SomaticApparition Před rokem +20

    The Howell Automatic’s bipod in this game is probably a byproduct of DICE using Forgotten Weapons as their source. The example Ian did a video on has a bipod just like the one shown that was added by an owner at some point

  • @as03uk
    @as03uk Před rokem +21

    Looks like he’s using a camera from 1914

  • @mango2538
    @mango2538 Před rokem +23

    If you do a part 3, show him the Peacekeeper, the Phantom Program reward. I think he would be really pleased.

  • @joenewkirk6136
    @joenewkirk6136 Před rokem +4

    Love this Series so much, Jonathan has such a love for the turn-of-the-century arms of the time and it is so excellent to watch along and learn.

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster Před rokem +10

    This was one of the best episodes in a while I really enjoyed this one.
    I learned a lot.

  • @DarkshadowXD63
    @DarkshadowXD63 Před rokem +23

    I would love for him to talk about the General Liu rifle he hasn't already

  • @xXbrokenvoidXx
    @xXbrokenvoidXx Před rokem +21

    Would be cool to see Johnathan take a look at the guns in The Order 1886

  • @handlesarecringe957
    @handlesarecringe957 Před rokem +14

    Probably never saw the Hellfighter and Red Baron pistols because you needed the Deluxe Edition or Ultimate/Revolution Edition to use them. I assume he just bought each DLC individually

  • @bigmike9947
    @bigmike9947 Před rokem +11

    Love the cycle of violence shirt John's wearing, wish I could've gotten one in their last indegogo campaign

    • @Lomi311
      @Lomi311 Před rokem

      Check the C&Rsenal store after they ship in December. Sometimes they get extras.

  • @simonlovel
    @simonlovel Před rokem +15

    As a Swedish person, Your Sjögren pronunciation is not bad at all! Love these videos, lots of fun information and interesting details. Will have to stop by the Royal Armouries and gawk at the firearms if i do end up in the UK at some point :)

  • @ironic_iron8770
    @ironic_iron8770 Před rokem +6

    I love the thumbnails in this series where Jonathan has a huge grin while showing off a weapon

  • @mrcampo19
    @mrcampo19 Před rokem +5

    Jonathan's extensive knowledge of guns makes him an horary American

  • @Chase-ts7gu
    @Chase-ts7gu Před rokem +4

    One of my buddies has a martini Henry, it’s such a cool gun. Real heavy too, you don’t realize how large it is until you hold it. The cartridge it fires is insane too.

  • @slavsupreme5129
    @slavsupreme5129 Před rokem +5

    One point on the Winchester 1907 SL, as far as I’m aware, the French actually did make (at least brief) use of an infantry version of the rifle, they’re rather rare but they are modified with a bayonet lug on the front, and used 15 (I think?) round magazines

    • @BunThighsLol
      @BunThighsLol Před 8 měsíci

      (I'm late, I know.)
      Although this has been *said*, I don't think there's any actual confirmed info/proof of there being Winchester 1907s being used by the French during the war.

    • @DMTrojan
      @DMTrojan Před 8 měsíci

      @@BunThighsLol I have found a number of sources online that suggest the information comes from the Winchester company's own sales records, which record "300 Model 1907 rifles in October 1915 from Winchester, soon followed by an order for 2,500 more rifles. Ammunition orders for these rifles exceeded 1.5 million cartridges of .351SL before 1917. Subsequent orders in 1917 and 1918 totaled 2,200 Model 1907 rifles." - So a few thousand rifles _at least_ are on official record as being sold to France during the war.
      C&Rsenal did a video on the French Contract M1907 rifles here - czcams.com/video/XDgPDsja5jA/video.html
      I've not seen the company records myself, but I _have_ seen dated and confirmed photos of French troops training with the rifle. It appears to have been primarily for aircraft usage, but it could easily have been pressed into service for foot usage. They appear to have wanted a LOT of magazines and ammunition for the number of rifles they ended up ordering, so they clearly intended to use them near-constantly.
      It does appear however that the rumors of automatic variants in French service are entirely unsubstantiated, and likely due to a mistranslation of the French term for "semiautomatic rifle" into "automatic rifle."

  • @DiegoMartinezCoria
    @DiegoMartinezCoria Před rokem +23

    Always nice to see Jonathan's smile on a new vid, the man's enthusiasm is infectious.

  • @squidy4082
    @squidy4082 Před rokem +8

    The whole atmosphere of bf1 is beyond amazing

  • @squidy4082
    @squidy4082 Před rokem +23

    Bf1 is beyond amazing, the entire atmosphere is awesome

    • @DrownInLysergic
      @DrownInLysergic Před rokem

      The last good Battlefield game to date. Battlefield V was a disappointment coming off the masterpiece that was BF1 and 2042 made Battlefield V look like a masterpiece in comparison to that dumpster fire. They both make BF1 just shine so much more and I really hope one day they can recapture the beauty and atmosphere that was BF1. They definitely got me playing it again too.

    • @hunterthomazin2415
      @hunterthomazin2415 Před rokem

      @@DrownInLysergic battlefield 5 is just as good as any of them it was just recieved bad by a certain group of wusses. People need to understand that battlefield 5 is almost exactly like any other battlefield game

    • @christinesulyvahn6043
      @christinesulyvahn6043 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@hunterthomazin2415Yeah, i saw people complaining about there being female soldiers, when even in real life there was woman in the fronts on both WW1 and WW2, of course, mostly on the Russian armies, but they were

  • @9PlatinumGamer9
    @9PlatinumGamer9 Před rokem +13

    I never knew the M1903 Experimental could change fire modes. I thought it was just a meme weapon like the Kolibri

    • @nb9121
      @nb9121 Před rokem +10

      I think the swapping of the bolt was an after the fact addition in one of the later DLCs. I remember for the longest time there was no actual bolt action 1903 in multiplayer.

    • @Zakhev342
      @Zakhev342 Před rokem +4

      @@nb9121 wait, you can make the 1903 experimental just a regular 1903 now?

    • @seanherrmann6301
      @seanherrmann6301 Před rokem +5

      @@Zakhev342 Yeah, they added that feature just after the last dlc released.

    • @WorkInProgressX
      @WorkInProgressX Před rokem +11

      @@nb9121 the last dlc added the option to swap from the pedersen device to the infantry version, but the animations always were there when using K-bullets

    • @brentsheltz6473
      @brentsheltz6473 Před rokem

      It is a interesting weapon to see irl. I’ve only seen one complete rifle at the nra museum. I’ve seen Springfields mark 1 rifles pop up for sale and only one pederson device for sale.

  • @puppetguy8726
    @puppetguy8726 Před rokem +5

    Fun fact: There's actually a Swedish m/96 mauser auto conversion prototype that uses the Sjögren system

  • @Captanuki
    @Captanuki Před rokem +4

    A major point I'd have for whoever is doing the footage for Mr Ferguson here is that they're using the nonhistorical (albeit understandably) variations present in the game. Most of these have skins on them (see: the comment on the satchel on the M1907 SL, the comment on the gold-plated Model 1875) or modifications fitted (footage for the Benét-Mercié). Accurate assessment of their realism would be from standard models in-game (infantry variants with standard iron sights) and in their stock skin rather than anything else.
    Just my two cents for this series not only for Battlefield 1 but for others.

  • @rorywatt9752
    @rorywatt9752 Před rokem +1

    FINALLY, IVE BEEN WANTING HIM TO DO A PART 2 FOR AGES

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 Před rokem

    Love seeing the guns for this game shot for real in Minute of Mae’s on C&Rssnal. Thanks for the shout out Johnathan!

  • @Psychedelic-Warrior
    @Psychedelic-Warrior Před rokem

    Thanks for the video. Since the first BF1 Video i waited for a Part 2, i hope you could do a Part 3 cuz BF1 has such cool weapons in it and imo its the best multiplayer shooter out there. Have a good

  • @MrLolx2u
    @MrLolx2u Před rokem +1

    The Winchester 1907 was indeed sent out to various armies fighting in WWI in small quantities with the French having the bulk of it at about 2,500 rifles.
    What the main purpose of said carbines was to be used by bomber crews early on in the war to just draw the carbine out when they spot an enemy plane and just shoot it at them. However, the co-pilots soon realized that the gun was practically useless as it does not throw enough lead to damage the enemy plane 60% of the time and with the caliber being relatively small with the .351, it's hard to take down planes and even lesser chance to aim at the pilot when you're flying at 140mph in the air and thus they abandoned it quick.
    There are indeed some reports of it being used in air in the French Air Force during WWI and some by the RAF but as far as I know, they wern't used anymore by 1917 when machine gun became the mainstay weapon on planes be it as offensive or defensive armament.
    The Martini-Henry did indeed saw action in some WWI theater, especially the Middle East. The British, needing to arm the main army in Europe with the newer tech, shoved the Martini-Henrys that they had in stock down to the Middle Eastern contingent that they had and even supplied tons of it to the Arabs during their revolt against the Ottomans and that's not all as same issue with the British, the Ottomans needed to arm their main army with the Mausers whereas outlier outpost could make do with older weapons thus they stockpiled tons of Martini-Henry and Peabodys at such areas and when the Arab Revolt kicked off, the rebels took armories stockpiled full of said rifles and used it against their overlords with British supplying them even more ammo for it on top of whatever spare Martini-Henry rifles they could spare for their cause.

  • @Wogle
    @Wogle Před rokem +2

    "And go semi! Go full semi!" - Jonathan Ferguson, 2022

  • @Ice7734.
    @Ice7734. Před rokem +8

    As far as I know, this is the only video on the internet with an MG08/18 air cooled gun they are extremely rare, vs the much more common water cooled MG08/15

    • @lucagerulat307
      @lucagerulat307 Před rokem +2

      08/15 is the German way of saying basic vanilla. (took me until I played bf 1 to figure out where the saying came from originaly)

  • @gabrielsantosbastos5257

    I was hoping for it some days ago but i never thought we would ge it now, thanks

  • @kiyo1396
    @kiyo1396 Před rokem

    I've been looking forward to this for a long time

  • @trunks10k
    @trunks10k Před rokem

    Love watching these. Johnathan is such a person we all look up to. He's like any of us gamer but he's super smart and knowledgable about the topic and not a total "gun nut" but an actual historian

  • @charlieince7884
    @charlieince7884 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Awesome that this game is still being talked about. Truly a brilliant game

  • @mathewvollmer9730
    @mathewvollmer9730 Před rokem +5

    I've been playing BF1 since day one, and I'm just now learning you can turn the Springfield experimental into a regular Springfield?!

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 Před rokem

      Yeah, press the button to switch fire modes. It's generally inferior to the other bolt actions because of the fact that you can't rezero the sights and that the sweet spot is around 150 m while the sights are locked at 75 m. I greatly prefer either the Arisaka, Ross, or Winchester Trench for close range combat because of this.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda Před rokem

    I adore little engineering details like the Cei-Rigotti trigger. That's fantastic.

  • @andrewm1857
    @andrewm1857 Před rokem +1

    Loving Jonathan's calculator watch, I had one of those growing up :)

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 Před rokem +2

    Been waiting for this one. Please give us part 3 if possible! COD games get so many episodes but the devs on this one must have done so much more research on wacky real life prototypes and period guns than maybe any game ever.

  • @fishbedwithgunpods3532
    @fishbedwithgunpods3532 Před rokem +1

    Hearing the sounds of the Howell Automatic Rifle once again is music to my ears

  • @calebnannie1822
    @calebnannie1822 Před rokem

    I love watching these videos. They are great for looking into the history of firearms and how well they are represented in games. I'd love to see Jonathan take a look at the firearms in the Tom Clancy Division games.

  • @peartree8338
    @peartree8338 Před rokem +1

    When Jonathan is going through your friend's work on BF1. Martin Kopparhed you did good, you did good. 😄👍

  • @memnarch129
    @memnarch129 Před rokem +1

    Always been a MG guy in FPS so love the attention shown to the LMG/HMGs in this video.

  • @PrimeGlaz
    @PrimeGlaz Před 10 měsíci

    I love Johns smile at the start of the video.

  • @junglesairsoftblog6311
    @junglesairsoftblog6311 Před rokem +3

    Loving the "cycle of violence " t shirt! My favourite C&Rsenal design!

  • @kristincook7808
    @kristincook7808 Před rokem

    I love the smile that he has when he’s holding the mg 08

  • @tigerseye1202
    @tigerseye1202 Před rokem

    I played some Red Faction Guerilla again recently and there are certainly a lot of whacky guns that you could show Jonathan.

  • @notthecia4486
    @notthecia4486 Před rokem +2

    This is exactly what I have been waiting for, exactly, this is exactly what I've been waiting for

  • @luissantiago5163
    @luissantiago5163 Před rokem

    Awesome to see more!

  • @The_General_Owl
    @The_General_Owl Před rokem

    21:34 *Gasp* I haven't seen one of them in years! My great grandpa used to work as a army technician and I remember him working with one of those.

  • @keepleft
    @keepleft Před rokem +1

    Another nit to pick on the 1911 is the original had 2 diamond shapes each side of the grips. The game shows it as fully checkered, which was M1911A1.

  • @willyum3920
    @willyum3920 Před rokem +8

    I don't even care about guns but I find watching Jonathan talking about what could be anything at all, really interesting. When's he going to do pottery, posters or pogo sticks? I'd watch it. Thanks J

    • @jerrynaylor4092
      @jerrynaylor4092 Před rokem +2

      If you don't like guns why did you watch this video.

  • @oldesertguy9616
    @oldesertguy9616 Před rokem +1

    I'm sure someone, or many people, have already pointed out the arched mainspring housing on the 1911 is the A1 type, not the original 1911 flat version.

  • @iplayvidya7949
    @iplayvidya7949 Před rokem +3

    I think it'd be interesting to have someone look at Valkyria Chronicles guns since those have a whole glossary pages dedicated to them. Would be nice to see a military guy react to some of the situations too even if they are just fantasy WW2.

  • @Chiller01
    @Chiller01 Před rokem

    Fun episode that introduced me to several guns I had no idea existed.

  • @efbiaj
    @efbiaj Před rokem +1

    I would love it if you looked at some more vr games, preferably into the radius bc i have put a lot of hours into the game with my trusty vss and want to know how accurate it is.
    Always a good time with these and loudout, keep up the work :)

  • @Meravokas
    @Meravokas Před rokem

    Marini Henry's that had been rechambered into .303 did see limited service in the British forces during the initial arms shortage after the heavy losses of the expeditionary force at the outbreak of the war. They were reserved for rear echelon troops as they didn't exactly want someone going over the top with a single loading rifle, but they did see active, non frontline (One would hope) service during the war.

  • @josedorsaith5261
    @josedorsaith5261 Před rokem

    Went to the museum last November. Would strongly recommend it

  • @TheSzczurson
    @TheSzczurson Před rokem

    I know it's a bit old but I would love to see Jonathan's reaction to Battlefield 2 guns. It had many modern (and I think not only modern) weapons that would be cool to see.

  • @enlightenerofcryptozoology8761

    Love Jonathan mentioned the old Zulu movie with Michael Caine. That movie is an awesome classic and does feature the Martini Henry, though they didn’t have enough at hand for all of the soldier actors in the movie so they had to take some parts off Lee enfield rifles to make it less look like a Lee enfield bolt action rifle. Funnily enough on one match in this game I got some players online using the Martini Henry’s for fun to line slightly up and fire like a volley. Another fact about the movie is it has a very high body count, past 300 total on screen.

  • @Bagster321
    @Bagster321 Před rokem +1

    The best thing about the LMG08/18 is occasionally when reloading, you might get the Easter egg of the jack in the box music playing whilst cranking. It's a very nice little surprise.

  • @steelshanks1265
    @steelshanks1265 Před rokem +5

    Best Battlefield game out there... Love Battlefield 1...

  • @jarsenberg
    @jarsenberg Před rokem

    Long overdue, but glad to finally see BF1 get a second video.

  • @BananaRaid
    @BananaRaid Před rokem

    There's still room for a part 3 and 4!

  • @pho3nix-
    @pho3nix- Před rokem +1

    I enjoy these WW1 vids much more than the ones featuring modern weapons.

  • @-Rezin-
    @-Rezin- Před rokem

    Props to Johnathan for teaching us about weapons and their facts. He could very well refuse. Either way we respect you!

  • @Anon13430
    @Anon13430 Před rokem

    This video is now featured on the wikipedia article for the Cei-Rigotti for explaining the trigger

  • @InchonDM
    @InchonDM Před rokem +1

    I will say, the specific M1909 Benet-Mercie they're showing there is the Telescopic version, which is specifically designed from a gameplay perspective as well not to be shoulder-fired -- it has that telescopic sight for a reason. You usually see people perched a million feet up on something with that thing, firing laser bolts down at the ants beneath them, rather than Ramboing it around -- and the Telescopic is by far the most popular B-M in my experience of getting shot by it. Very good gun for creating the Authentic World War 1 Experience of getting razed to the ground by distant MG fire.

  • @ArteriusSaren
    @ArteriusSaren Před rokem +2

    Seeing happy face of Jonathan in the thumbnail is so cool.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn Před rokem

    In the previous video featuring the AUG H BAR, I would like to know more about the optic used on that particular A2 model? It looks like an older Heinzolt but as to what model or carry handle scope rings, I do not know. It looks incredible none-the-less.

  • @djwoody1649
    @djwoody1649 Před rokem +1

    13:10 The Martini rifle was used in WWI, I believe in Africa and Arabia due to a shortage of rifles. It would have probably been more likely to come across a Martini Enfield given it shared the widely used .303 chambering.

  • @VaneWalker
    @VaneWalker Před rokem +1

    Some weapon suggestions for a part 3
    Assault: Hellriegel 1915, Ribeyrolles 1918
    Medic: Mondragón, Fedorov Avtomat
    Support: Huot Automatic, Perino 1908
    Scout: Lebel Model 1886, Type 38 Arisaka
    Sidearm: Obrez Pistol, Peacekeeper (lol)

  • @saintbulmers665
    @saintbulmers665 Před rokem +1

    21:13 i believe the other one that had vertical feed cassettes for the time would have been the fiat revelli modello 1914

  • @uncannybeagle7512
    @uncannybeagle7512 Před rokem

    The M1907 was my favorite weapon in the game. It just felt really great to use. You could easily use it close to medium range, and if you needed it to you could pull off some longer range shots.

  • @doctortomato9520
    @doctortomato9520 Před rokem +3

    I am so glad this game is making a comeback