Why Did We Sell The Big Boat & Go Smaller??
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2020
- Why did we sell our big Sea Ray Sedan Bridge and move back to a smaller express style Sundancer? Ease of travel and cruising.
If you're interested to seeing lots more from our Sedan Bridge, take a look at my Playlist, with over 200 videos taken from that boat here: • Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
For a glimpse of some of the cruising we enjoyed in 2020, have a look at my '2020 Boat Cruise' playlist: • Playlist
Please have a look at the full playlist from our incredible Epic Boat Cruise 2019 series, here: • Epic Boat Cruise 2019
Filmed August, 2020.
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Be sure to follow along with all our adventures aboard Boogaboo, our 1998 Sea Ray 330 Sundancer - our fifth Sea Ray! I invite you to take a look at my ever expanding 'Sea Ray 330 Sundancer' Playlist for this boat here: • Sea Ray 330 Sundancer
Boat Specs;
- Model: 1998 Sea Ray 330 Sundancer
- Length (bow to transom): 33’-6”
- Beam: 11’-5”
- Dry Weight: 11,200 lbs
- Fuel Capacity: 225 U.S. gallons, 850 litres
- Draft: 33”
- Dead Rise: 17 degrees
- Engines: 2 x 7.4 litre Mercruiser Bluewater, Multi-Port fuel injection, gasoline,
freshwater cooled, rated at 310 HP
- Transmissions: 2 x Borg Warner Velvet Drives, in Vee-Drive configuration
- Generator: Westerbeke 4.5 Kw BCGTC @ 60 Hz, gasoline powered &
carburated
- 12,000 BTU, reverse cycle heating/air conditioning
- Shore Power: 2 x 30 Amp, 120 V connections
- Freshwater Holding Tank: Single 40 U.S. Gallon tank
- Waste (black-water) Holding Tank: Single 34 U.S. Gallon
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Before we had our 330 Sundancer, we enjoyed seven seasons aboard 'Boogaboo IV', a 1997 Sea Ray 400 DB. You watch all my videos from that vessel on the 'Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge' Playlist here: • Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
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Known as the best fresh water cruising grounds in the world, Georgian Bay is located in the heart of the Great Lakes and forms part of Lake Huron. Renowned for is rugged beauty, Georgian Bay has been attracting adventurous boaters for over a century, but it's rocky shoreline and challenging navigation routes are not for the faint hearted and must be approached with the greatest care and respect. I'm happy to share our own adventures through this inspiring area with my 'Georgian Bay Boating' Playlist here: • Georgian Bay Boating
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Another great video Paul. Thanks for the info and keep 'em coming!
Thanks, will do!
Excellent overview of sedan v.s express v.s. crew harmony. Men are generally more comfortable pushing their abilities a little, while women prefer fewer challenges in a day. The 'Admiral' on my boat is at her limit so you make it easier to stick to my 32'. It has pretty much everything we want and fresh top. Original top had excessive slope at the transom )likely to save $ during manufacture). Had the new top made vertical at the back and extended 16" over the transom to what we call 'the awning.' What a game changer to making the cockpit more enjoyable. Happy cruising this summer!
Thanks Paul.... You and Anchor Girl's boats are the pristine of pristine vessels. Great Job!!
I wouldn't go that far - you should have seen how dirty Boogaboo's deck was by the end of the season last year :-0 It was way too busy for me last year to spend a couple of days detailing prior to our holidays, but I have already booked for a complete polish job prior to launch next year. Gotta keep up appearances while we cruise the TSW ;-)
Have a great Holiday!!
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo Cheers matey... have a great holiday. Spring launch gets closer every day!!
I'm counting on it!
Great video with the information I needed.
Glad to hear it!
Paul, I’ve missed watching your videos. College has got me tied up especially with all of my flying courses. I still love the sit back Sunday cruise videos, they help me concentrate when I’m studying. Also loved the throw back theme song at the beginning! Hope all is well!
Since you mentioned it, I put together another long Sit Back Sunday video! Watch for it this weekend 👍
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo I’ll be looking forward to it! Thank you guys! You’re the best!
As an owner of a DB400 I completely understand your observations and concerns with the Sedan. I also have twin gas engines, not exactly a joy around the dock when the wind is blowing. We do however love the boat..... Thank you for all of the Sedan videos you have posted in the past, they were both educational and enjoyable
Happy to have shared our experiences!
The fly bridges are a sail for sure. I’ve seen some guys get into a lot of trouble on windy days at the locks. I love the express cruisers all the way ....
Yes, we will do another express style boat for the next Boogaboo, for sure.
I went through some of the same decisions before buying our 330DA...almost two years ago now. Some of your videos were very helpful in the decision process as well. I was seriously considering a 370 sedan but the ladder to the bridge is what ultimately took that out of consideration and of course with every foot comes more cost. Since I'm not getting younger, I figured staying with one deck would allow me to be boating the longest. After one short season (the CV19 season was a bust) I'm pleased with the decision I made. The 330 is all the boat we'll ever need. I thought about the Loop in the past, but that's more boating than I want. I like it being seasonal...and in fresh water.
I hear ya. We had seriously looked at The Loop ourselves, back in 2019, but after watching the ongoing series from the 'What Yacht To Do' crew (Sam & Rev @ czcams.com/users/WhatYachtToDo), we have determined that the romantic version of endless cruising is more of a hard schedule and too much planing at every turn to be a vacation, more like work ;-)
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo So here's my thought on looping...I've been kicking around the idea for a few years of a fresh water "mini-loop" I'm in Cheboygan, MI and would start/end there. In general, the route goes Cheboygan to the North Channel, to Georgian Bay, to the Trent/Severn, to Lake Ontario, to the Oswego/Erie Canal, to Lake Erie, Detroit/St Clair Rivers and finally back to Lake Huron and Cheboygan (US or Canadian shore)...or reverse. I'm not sure about the direction but maybe it's better to head south first and try to finish in Canadian waters later in the summer. Anyway, that's the bucket list cruise whenever the population gets over the pandemic. After following Sam And Rev for a year, you realize that the loop is a commitment to living on a boat not just taking a cruise.
I love the express cruiser style. Rinker 342 here!
Welcome!
I have a 1995 25' Cruisers that I keep in a slip in Dog River in South Alabama. It's fully self-contained and easy for me to use by myself.
Nice area I hope to come down that way soon with my Starcraft Offshore 18. Only 4 hours I live 40 miles North of Birmingham Alabama
Nice. If you were to head north towards the Tombigbee River the Tenn-Tom Waterway, you would eventually find yourself on the mighty Mississippi. A little farther along is the Illinois and then through to Chicago and Lake Michigan. Keep heading north and east from there and before ya know it, you'd be in our neck of the woods! A long trip, but totally doable by water.
You know that I love the 400. I totally get why you guys downsized. I imagine the Admiral and I would be close to divorce if we had a sedan bridge. Our 370 was the perfect blend of roominess, cruisabiliity and ease of handling. Throw in a bow thruster and away you go. Thanks for sharing as always!
And as you know, we had been looking at the 370 Dancer as a potential candidate for the next Boogaboo, as it is basically the exact same #boat as our current 330, but with lots more elbow room ;-) We are still looking - always looking - and have added a couple more models/vintages to the short list. Whatever it may come down to, it will be another express style cruiser. As I mentioned in this video, Anchor Girl still likes to remind me that if we had bought the 400 Sundancer back when we bought the 400 Sedan, we'd still have it today :-/
Your boat is one of the best ever made (biased - I have a 97 330DA). With our short summers up here a smaller boat that is beg enough for what you want to do with it is the perfect boat. I have no interest in changing at this stage of life and the way we use ours. Once I retire and want to do more and longer trips, I might upgrade to a larger one, but probably will stick with an express cruiser.
I'm still a few years away from retiring, and have a number of longer trips we'd like to do in the coming summers. An upgrade for us is still a couple of years away and are looking forward to just a few more comforts in the next one. In the meantime, the 330 Sundancer is working well for us - and Tiny Krona ;-)
I just picked up a 2006 Sea Ray 380 Sundancer with only 340 hours on it. The boat is immaculate, the prior owner bought the boat new and kept it in outstanding condition, it's spending the winter down in South Carolina where I purchased it and sometime in April I'll drive it up the ICW back to New Jersey where I live. I'm hoping someday to make a trip up north to visit the lakes where you boat if we ever get over this Covid thing
I thought the 380's became known as simply the '38 Sundancer' in 2006. Similar #boat as the 380, but revised hull and a few cosmetic/layout changes. Don't ask me how I know, I just do - but don't tell anybody, nudge-nudge, wink-wink ;-)
Hopefully we can see some videos of your new ship on your channel one day?
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo you're right, the 380 is the 38. Some brokers still refer to it as 380. But the owners guide and manuals state 38 Sundancer as so do the emblems.
Yes, after watching too many 'boat tours' on CZcams, as well as years of sifting through boat listings, I've come to the conclusion that most brokers just talk out of the side of thier - ahh - mouths. I'm constantly floored by the amount of incorrect info in listings and it's so frustrating 😤 I guess anyone can call themselves a salesman and talk as much bs as they need to get the sale done, irrespective of the best interests of thier clients.
Rant over. 😉
Enjoy that beautiful boat!!
Thanks for posting such great vids. We too would like to explore the Trent Severn and also the Rideau system. We currently are small boat owners but I’m tossing up the idea of a 22’ Islander for salmon fishing and overnighting but also considering whether a 30-35’ for weekending and travelling the mentioned systems would be more enjoyable.
With your express, would you have a rough idea on what you spent (overall) on fuel on your longer Trent Severn loops?
I have no idea what to expect with the variety of speeds you must be encountering (canals/rivers/open sections) and not having any large vessel experience.
Thanks again for the enjoyable videos
Here: czcams.com/video/pzjhIEVJ5vI/video.html
Thanks, so approx 240 gals/960L to do the entire Trent-Severn system one way for those who want to know. (Plus extra for any offshoot excursions) At an assumed $1.75 litre for marine gas, that’s $1700 or so for fuel + side excursions.
Great video as always. Hope to see both of you this summer! Sam on Whatyachttodo
Hi Sam. Yes, hopefully the border will open by the Spring top allow all of the Loopers back up this way. I think most 'regulars' missed seeing our American friends on the water this year.
All the best to you and Rev for the Holidays!!
loved the 400
Me too.
Shes a clean '98 that's for sure 👍🏻
It's been a LOT of work to bring that ship up to our standards, but we are really happy with it.
We have a 2008 18.5 Bayliner F18 wakeboard boat here in Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan, and another 2007 18.5 Bayliner Classic in Lions Bay, B.C. at our vacation home. We keep both at the houses. No moorage payments!!! We will be moving up to something larger out in B.C. in the next few years, but it has to be trailer able (i.e. 10' 6" beam or less). The plan is to pull it with my '18 RAM 3500 Dually. Towing capacity is over 30,000 lbs and over 20,000 just on the bumper hitch. The newer Sea Rays and Chaparrals etc came to their senses and have 35' boats that meet this requirement. Express cruisers. Mid 2000's are too wide. A 2008 Sea Ray 330 vs a 2012 Sea Ray 330 is about 12' beam to 10' 6" or 10' 4"....huge difference in trailorability. We can go south when it opens up to Florida/Bahamas and Cali in the winter and....No moorage payments!!!
No mooring fees sounds tempting, but we enjoy the social side of the interactions with our fellow boaters. Plus, it gives us that separation from the house and as a self employed contractor, my home office equates to 'work'. Getting away from that on the weekends is a welcome mental break.
Happy boating!
I have an 11ft whaler and I'm thinking of downsizing, but I can't seem to find anything smaller ; )
I have a 18 ft I can downsize may go with a 16
Inflatable?
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo I was just kidding I have a 69 Starcraft Offshore 18. I love it wish it was a 21 foot
SuperSports are the best!!
@@BoatingJourney u right
We unfortunately sold our 330 due to young kids. But when the kids are older we will look hard at another 330. Dream to drive!
Yes, our 330 Dancer is so easy to drive! Good luck with your search - there are still quite a few on the market these days.
Paul, when you move on to a new boat will the bigger and better adventures include the Bahamas?
Unlikely. We're now looking at doing more 'mini loops' in the general area where we live - probably within 500 miles (as the crow files) from our home port. Thinking of venturing to Chicago, NYC, Erie Canal, Montreal, etc., over a number of seasons. Time will tell. Gotta get that bigger boat first ;-)
Have you done a video on how you finance your boat life style?
Easy; by working hard 😁
A cruiser boat is for weekends cruise but if you planning to live aboard a 40 to 45 footer is the way to go
Umm, best check my channel to see where we stand on that one 😉
I think a 27’ is great for a couple - 30’ if you absolutely must have twin engines. Both will have a separate eating and sleeping areas and you can get all of the amenities like heat, air, and gen just like the big boys have while having economical operation and ease of use by even one person.
Economical operation? On a boat?!?! That's too funny 🤣😂
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo Relatively speaking, of course!
What web sites would you recommend to search for a boat? My wife and I are thinking of purchasing one over the next year. Help
You ~really~ need to think about what you want to do with the boat and then start looking. Do you want to trailer? Need GPS/chartplotter/radar? Slips available where you want to be? Wanting to pull toys/ski/wake board? Need live aboard capability? Go-fast, cruise or trawler? All those and more will drive the type of boat to look at. Walk some docks. Check out boat shows...great places to see a lot of types.
I will tell you buying the boat is the easy part. 😂 Consider the maintenance costs too. Most people will tell you it can cost about 10-20% of the purchase price every year for total ownership costs. On a decent year, my 34’ costs me near $10k/yr for everything: slip/store/insurance/fuel/maintenance. Ever couple years some biggie repair / upgrade / maintenance issue pops up. I did 2 transom assemblies and some electronics upgrades a year ago, presto $20k.
Just go in wide eyed. Even with the short season in Michigan I think it is worth it. Plus I get to play on the Great Lakes!
Agree with all of the above. As you mentioned, the annual costs of ownership are something I feel that many new #boat owners never consider initially. As I point out in this video, the Number One question I get (over and over and over) is what's the fuel mileage/range/costs. I generally reply to that one with the cost of fuel is only a small percentage of yearly boating costs, and that folks need to consider storage (roughly $5,500 for us, including haul out/wrap and launch), insurance (another $1,000), maintenance/upgrades (I'm usually $2,000 - 3,000+++/year) and we're already close to 10 G's - without ever even leaving the dock. Add in fuel, dockage fees at visiting marinas, lock passes and so on, we are gonna be $15,000 without even trying. But that's why a boat is nothing but a hole in the water into which we pour all of our money :-)
And thanks for inspiring me for an upcoming video ;-)
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo The best answer for the fuel consumption is: if gas/diesel costs are your concern: do not get a boat. 🤣. Agreed that it is really the lower expense!
When you up size maybe something like a Sea Ray 480 motor yacht, I know they do smaller but not sure of size. :)
Gonna stick with an express.
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo Will you go soft top or hard top with a sunroof ? or just not decided yet ? I am looking at a Sunseeker Portofino 47, not decided over IPS or shafts though .... :)
New subscriber here and am loving your channel. I am always curious as to how the names of boats come to fruition. The name of our boat is "Island Girl" and was conceived by my wife Lea being an "Island Girl" from the Philippines. What's the story behind the name "Boogaboo" ... Our current boat is a Hatteras 54 Convertible. We too are considering going to something smaller. Love your vids!
Welcome aboard!
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo Thanks for answering my question about your boats name ;)
Smaller boats are a little bit easier to maintain don't take that that I am saying it's less work I am currently on my second boat which is a 1983 Carver Monterey 26 with a tri-axle trailer I have been restoring it I've got most of the teak sanding and oiled boy what a difference a little bit of sanding and oil makes my current boat has a full kitchen and a full bathroom and hot running water no more cold showers happy travels guys
Always something :-)
How interesting - but totally makes sense, especially without thrusters or diesels.
Happily, we have no regrets on the move. Looking forward to the next one already ;-)
ever watch a video called Bad Day at Dana Point? its utter chaos at a marina, bc of one boater but not because of wind...kinda unbelievable until you see it for yourself....1.4 million views...
I think we've all seen this type of 'docking'. If that guy was smart, he would have just called it quits after the 2nd or 3rd hit and stayed put until a more experienced pilot could take over the helm. That, or wait until he was safely docked before hitting the bottle ;-)
What is the name of the second song playing.
With electric guitar.
Thanks
just some stock CZcams music.
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo
Darn
I was hoping you knew.
Thanks
@@socalifone3044 If you're referring to the music I use in my Intro Theme (same tune I've used for years here on the channel), it's called 'Marvin's Dance' by Silent Partner. Again, all of the music I use in my videos is from CZcams's Partner Sharing catalogue.
Are you trying to explain to us, how long suffering, Anchor Girl is ? 🤭. Personally, I like the big boats that are roomy inside and out, but can certainly appreciate, that windage can take ALL the fun out of boating! Boogaboo is perfect!
We're very happy with our current Boogaboo, but looking at moving up a few feet in length to get a couple more creature comforts.
Where is your home marina?
Dig through my videos and you'll see numerous references to it ;-)
where will you be able to go with the bigger boat that you arent able to go now with current boogaboo?
Nowhere. It's just that we could get there with even greater comfort 😉
Next one will be a looper boat :)
Awesome! When are you leaving?
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo :) I meant YOUR next boat LOL. Not sure if you follow Zoffingers channel but he is about to leave on his loop trip soon. Should be fun to follow along.
So, that means you're not going now?
Sorry. We Still miss the 400 SB ...
There's lots of them for sale online ;-)
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo
Haha. Yes, I remember yr...let’s say...consternation at the continued SB references.
The new boat is great, but certainly a different viewing experience for us... is all I’m saying. 😉
If you were giving a budget of $300,000 what would you buy?
A bigger house 😜
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo 😂
I've never heard once a woman ever say "Smaller is Better"
Me neither, but in this case, our move back to a more compact express cruiser was a welcome change.
Why did you sell your..............J/k🤣 Have you seen the SAV's I like the Regal 38. When I win the lottery. It does show that you don't need a fifty foot boat to have the comforts of home.
SAV's?
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo It's the SUV of boating! Sport Activity Vessel! czcams.com/video/Yc0HMaPbGFU/video.html
@@Sgtkode Cool.