Extroverted Feeling - Fe - Emotions - Explained Correctly
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I remember being put under an ENFJ. She wasn't a 'nice' ENFJ. She would put me 'on the spot' whenever I did anything that went against the common good, it was humiliating, almost like bullying. Se-Fe isn't about being nice like Ne-Fe is, it's about doing whatever is necessary to enforce social protocols.
I have the same experience from a ”friend” who was always on my case in front of others. Because I liked ”my own things” such as not liking U2 as much as others but more obscure bands. I didn’t even dislike u2, but according to him apparantly I did vause I did not say out loud how great they were. He was like this with everything. Annoying person.
@winterbird4447 I have a hard time accepting that there are people so superficial, that I'm disgusted
"The valuing of E makes these types appreciative of the mood or emotional atmosphere of the people surrounding them. Emphasis is placed on the sharing and showing of emotion and how those emotions affect the mood of others, with priorities given to emotions that raise and uplift how people are feeling or unite them and bring them together. It is important for emotions to be expressed clearly and openly, even exaggeratedly so that people easily 'get the message'. These types tend to associate subjective value based on how groups of people react to what is being expressed".
I would say that Fe+Si is more positive because it is focused on improving the quality of the present mood. Keeping conversation positive encourages other people to participate and enjoy each other's company, whereas saying something that might harm the mood might cause people to disengage and form stronger personal boundaries (Fi+Se).
The reason Fe+Ni is not as concerned about that is because they are much more concerned about the *message* they want to communicate rather than how it is received by others (i.e. whether or not it will make them feel good). It is (supra)worldly, focused on abstract social issues that affect the whole of society, which may or may not even be present, rather focusing more on the abstract qualities of one individual (Fi+Ne).
Not to mention "charging" other people with intense emotional energy gets them to act quickly compared to more soothing, nice pleasantries.
Yes, will go into blockings in future videos.
Thanks for the Superchat, @Andrew Re!
When the ESE displays emotions around their pain the ESI tells them that they are being dramatic
Enneagram 9 (a body type) is about harmony. So Si being linked to harmony makes sense.
Not every type 9 uses Si
And neither is 9 all about harmony. 9 is sometimes more concerned with keeping stability in themselves and the environment (because the environment being stable helps themselves stay stable.)
9s can definitely rock the boat as well...the anti-confrontational nature is a stereotype.
@@oooo1743no they all use Si
You have good use of Ti-Fe
I think I probably have extraverted feeling. Whenever I have patients who are absolutely horrible, I always tell them that they are my absolute favorite patient. I just get a rile out of it. I want to see their reaction to them being completely nasty to me to receiving the message that they are absolutely wonderful! Hehe! It gives me inner joy!
Thank you for making that distinction about sfj vs nfj
, thats cool and objective that you can see Hitler still as an artist even tho you perceive him as evil ,due to the monstrous nature of his crimes
i dont care if hes infj or enfj hes dead
thank you for chucking personality hackers si memory and fe harmony
have you checked out mike from nf geek introvert and extrovert function being listing and speaking and introverted functions be a prior and extroverted function a posterior function (also intuition being a form of mutation)
good video
I had a bad run in with Mike years ago
@@WorldSocionics sorry to hear you guys couldn't patch it up with the amount of growth you guys have had with all of this chaos in the world right now
, im sure something beautiful could emerge from a collaboration even if its from the rubbles of ideas that could occur in any negative intersection of your interaction
from your analysis do you find him to be an enfp ?
@@Heyokasireniei468sxso I was sceptical of him being IEE/ENFP but I don't have a clear alternative in mind. I just know from my experience that he was not open to socionics and will ban people who disrupt the ideological consistency in his group. Whether that is truly due to a desire to protect ideological consistency or to preserve social harmony, I don't really know. i certainly thought it the latter back then, but that was a long time ago and I was a less mature person than I am now.
@@WorldSocionics I think i recall that , he was getting a bit toxic towards the end, it even reflected in his health, he would be sick alot if you recall, especially after he started attacking somatic narcissist oh well fuck em at least you're still relevant his loss , i hope his health his gotten better and perhaps he will come around down the road or not
also i wanted to say thank you for the term refining that makes more sense, like exploration for the extroverted functions rather then personality hackers name for Ne
but yes it puts a better cap on it
i want to discuss this with my INFP/EII brother so i can know where i have been offending him , but before i do i want to ask you if i may,
since the introverted functions are about refining would you suggest that( Fi ) is about refining not only the interconnections and relations they have with people and seeing the relations between people but more so in regard to the emotions they choose to feel ?
do they set themselves a limited array of emotions to color with and all else are offensive or do they just refine the production ritual and performance of the feeling (or relations) to the point they can overtly or covertly manipulate (not in a malignant way, it can be simply a polite smile to keep the peace)
kinda like how personality hacker says fi uses emotional aikido
if that didn't make since to you , simply can Fi doms repress certain emotional displays or feelings within themselves simply on principal even if the situations calls for the emotions they wish to repress?
Audio is very quiet in this video too
not sure what to do about this. It's the same inbuilt microphone used in my livestreams. The volume is fine when I play the video on my computer.
@@WorldSocionics If you compare it to another video of yours (older) and play them both right after eachother , you might hear that this volume seems much lower. czcams.com/video/nG2C4hwN1ns/video.html
It does not bother me personally as I can just increase volume a lot on my soundcard, but I know some devices can be fairly limited in their maximum audio volume
@@PowerRedBullTypology sure, those videos weren't done on my computer mic but with one on top of a proper camera. I still played both and don't detect much difference playing both on my phone without changing the volume
what would be the type of Carl Jung in your opinion?
not certain, I have thought about INFP (NiFe) for him, but I am starting to wonder about INTJ (TiNe) instead.
So when people rally around an Fe type, is it safe to say that those rallying around will be largely Fe and Ti types?
Those most likely to be affected are those types for whom Fe is valued and flexible, I.e. with Fe in the Auxiliary (Creative) or Inferior (Suggestive) positions.
@@WorldSocionics like it when you put 'inferior' there. It's easier for people to migrate from MBTI to socionics.
I see Adolph as a high Fi user. He would not talk improvising. It was always like a deeply written and rehearsed passionate poetry. He moved people because what he said was deep although not very thought-out. He was a weird introvert socially awkward behind the curtains. He had deep values, that had no logical sense, like being pro animals and apparently anti some humans.
None of this contradicts ENFJ.
@@WorldSocionics I get it. An ENFJ with his peculiarities. Because he had the psychological configuration with abilities to manage subtle things for social and emotional goals?
Adolf was ENTP strong in Fe
Why not ENFJ?
He was actually an infj
That literally doesn't make sense