Trains at: Crewe, WCML, 05/03/22
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2022
- A very enjoyable afternoon spent at Crewe on the West Coast Mainline where we see plenty of services from London Northwestern Railway, Avanti West Coast, Northern, Transport for Wales, East Midlands Railway and freight from DC Rail. There's also a rail tour worked by a DB Cargo UK 60 and 66.
The station was opened in 1837 by the Grand Junction Railway. The whole idea of this station was to connect the four largest cities in England by joining the Liverpool and Manchester Railway to the projected London and Birmingham Railway.
There were massive plans for the railway and the station when it first opened. As soon as the station was built there were plans to build at the time a branch line that would head to Chester. The line now being a pretty busy route for passenger traffic. Oddly enough the company created to build this route was called and Chester and Crewe Railway. But once the line had been completed they were merged with the Grand Junction Railway in 1840.
Because at the time the steam engines were only small it meant that an engine shed was built was built that was used to stable banking engines that would be used to push trains up a small incline that today would be no match at all.
Less than a year later plans were created for a trunk route to be built linking Crewe to Holyhead which also gave great access to Ireland which in turn started to cement itself as an important junction station in the UK.
The next line to meet was the line from Manchester. There were plans to have the line run straight from Manchester to Birmingham but when construction was underway it was deemed that it would be uneconomical because of the length of the line that they wanted to create. So it was decided that they would connect their line to the GJR at Crewe.
The town started to grow in size when the GJR moved their depot from Edge Hill in Liverpool to the North of the station. It was done in order to house the workforce.
In 1846 the GJR and the London and Birmingham Railway merged together to form at the time the largest company in the world which is the London & Northwestern Railway.
When the company came to be they started the largest amount of track laying seen in the country. They extended lines and built new ones heading to: Holyhead, Lancaster and Carlisle, Leeds, Shrewsbury, Stoke-on-Trent and the South of Wales.
With all the lines converging on the West Coast Mainline at Crewe it meant that more traffic was coming through the station roughly 1000 trains during any 24 hour period which mostly consisted of freight there were plans brought up which would take the trains under the station.
By 1903 the station was given a make over to allow stopping freight traffic to unload for road vehicles which meant that 9 through platforms were constructed each were a 1/4 mile in length. The total cost of the improvement at the time was £1,000,000 which in today's money is the equivalent to £97,080,000. I'll take a portion of that quite happily.
When the LMS was created Crewe continued to grow in size, locomotives were still being built on a daily basis and the signalling was given a complete overhaul. The two former signal boxes were instead made into concrete fortresses to withstand air raids. But aside from that nothing else really took place in the 50 years LMS were running around.
It wasn't until British Railways was formed that further changes were taking place around the station. Most notably was when steam was starting to be raise out and replaced with diesel and electric locomotives and multiple units which meant that the works were starting to close down because of lack of work and the fact that smaller depots were starting to pop up across the country that would task care of the trains.
Although as we all know Crewe works survived to an extent for the heritage centre and the actual works itself for restoring steam engines.
Much more work was taken out from then to the present day to incorporate the electrification of the WCML, bigger trains, better facilities to make it the station we all know and love today.
Apologies for the rather quick ending but my battery decided to throw a hissy fit and get very close towards dying on me so I had to be a little bit rushed.
If you have any trackside locations or stations you would like to see me go to then please do let me know and I will see what I can do for you.
My next station will actually be Didcot Parkway on the Great Western Mainline.
You can find me on Facebook through the group Tornado922, there you will find regular updates, videos and photos from all of my goings on throughout 2022.
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Nice video of Crewe and because of the trespass aswell
Loving the videos man
This is a funny youtuber and i love funny youtuber moments and tornado922 is a good train spotter
loved it just "SHUT UP" lol made me laugh sooo hard.
I think thats gonna have to be my new phrase lol
The announcers voice was like nails down a chalkboard.
Great video, which we've all come to expect. Not forgetting the usual humour. Carry on.
The announcements were becoming far to frequent and loud regardless of where I was standing. But I am glad you enjoyed watching this :)
Nice video great camera work as usual as always keep it up i am really looking forward to seeing your next video also when is your next video going to be on CZcams take care bye for now Philip
Great video - I really enjoy your extended visits to stations, and some great variety as well!
Thanks very much, I always feel that some of the bigger stations deserve a more lengthy stay as you're always bound to catch something interesting
4:35
"After having a look at Real Time Trains I'm lead to believe there's going to be- shut up"
That made me laugh a bit not gonna lie 😅
Love you’re videos 👍
Love it when he can't quite get all the words out of his mouth
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Another brilliant video! I really enjoyed this :)
Thanks very much :)
Every time you tried to say something ... that tannoy system lol.. made my day though haha. Good to see the trains being used more now.... but that really packed two car train?.. yikes! Great video as always bud 😉
Thanks very much bud, I think Ann was trying to outdo me with all the chatting it would seem haha
@@Tornado922 naughty Anne! haha :)
*Anne*
Great video lots of trains!
Thanks very much
Vampire - Sunlight
Superman - Kryptonite
Tornado 992 - Platform PA System
Nice video at Crew nice to nice to see the rail tour close to the end
Thanks very much, I was completely unaware that a rail tour would be coming through until I checked towards the end of my filming
*Crewe*
Love your videos 💕
Thanks very much :)
Your commentary about the Transport for Wales 2 car train from Swansea is spot on. Whenever I visit the UK from Australia I travel all over the UK by train and as my siblings live in Hereford and Shrewsbury I am frequently caught out by this mob and the mob that went before, with 2 or 3 car train that were standing room only. I once told a ticket collectot that people shouldn't have to pay for the rubbish service; he threatened to throw me off the train. Keep up the great work,
It just amazes me that TFW find it acceptable to put such a small train on a route that they know is only going to get busier and busier the closer it gets towards Manchester, especially on a saturday when you have football matches taking place
@@Tornado922 I think the plan is for them to be 5-cars once the 197s (3+2 formation) and extra Mark 4 sets have replaced the 175s
Great video.
Thanks very much :)
3:10 has to be the best bit of this
"shut up. shut up. shut up. shut up. shut up."
Great video👍
Thanks very much
Awesome 👍👍👍 bro
Thanks very much
Oooo, gotta love Crewe. It does lack in freight but it varies on which day anyone goes out on. Mega of a video of some interesting and surprising mixed variety.
I know it is early days but would you be able to make time to film trains at Scarborough in roughly the summer time please? To say the least, Scarborough will become a busy terminus station from May (hopefully) with Northerns brand new hourly service :-)
Thanks very much I'm glad you enjoyed watching this. Crewe is a great station to go to that's for sure. I will see what I can do for you. I have always wanted to visit Scarborough
One thing I don't like about Crewe (apart from the lack of freight) is the insane amount of announcements!
Oh my lorry I get the announcements too it's so bad at Liverpool lime street. I've put up with it at Liverpool for over 16 years
Thank god they turn announcements off at new street!
@@ol_playz the announcements are pose to be turned off about June
The frequency of the announcements does become a bit overwhelming that's for sure. It would be great though if at Crewe there was a viewing area for the avoiding freight traffic passing around the back of the station near to the football stadium
@@ol_playz what do you mean they turn announcements off at New Street?
Other amazing video legend tornado I was enjoy watch your videos
Thanks very much
Awesome video thanks buddy from Alan Shelley in Lowestoft
Thank you kindly!
Excellent commentary with some humour makes a nice change
Thanks very much :)
Brilliant! Video
Thanks very much
@@Tornado922 that's alright
Another excellent video from Crewe there even if there was little freight! The highlight has to be the railtour! I had watched this but I waited to bring you some good news and that news is that I caught a nine car 180 in the form of 180110 in reduced four car formation and 180113, still with the coach of 180109! I caught the pair well after watching this video!
Thanks very much, Crewe is always a great station to come to. Although I have found that coming on a weekday can yield better results as I found out last year when I turned up and spent a whole day here. Glad to hear that you finally caught a pair of 180s
@@Tornado922 I actually had caught a pair of 180's but not involving the four car one of 180110 before that particular weekend when I caught it attached with 180113. I think no other CZcamsr had caught a nine car 180 before that day when I did it! I might be wrong though as I remember there being one with Hull Trains somewhere involving either 180109 or 180113. The situation was resolved but they decided to have 180109 with the centre car of 180113 and 180113 with the centre car of 180109. One of those was like that I think whilst one was four cars long.
Lovely! I’m there in April :)
I hope you have a great time when you go here :)
Ding ding! I'm a tram 🚋 and I approve this video! Great footage!
Jolly good
It’s every time isn’t it
Imagine doing better announcement work than the announcer. 😂😂😂
You sound so happy to get back into it.
`"don't give a monkey's toss" love that quote lol. Am a new subscriber
Thank you for subscribing to my channel :)
I love crewe station
Great vid mate could you please do London bridge Next maybe even do Derby again before you do Shrewsbury.
Just love the 68s
They are amazing locos
Very good
Thanks very much
Great meeting you:)
Likewise :)
@@Tornado922 :)
Your encounter with the announcements at the start of the video had me in stitches....great video none the less
Justice for anne😂
I'm sure you'll be able to get something sorted XD
In case you haven't located it yet - Weaste is just outside Manchester, so the train probably came via Victoria, off the Lancs/Yorks loop run.
I must admit I didn't look it up, thanks for letting me know
Hi there
Yescrewestation
Does get busy
Havewonderfulday
Going to bed later
Hi, I am planning a trip with my son (11) to Crewe Train Station for a few days in July as he loves his trains. is it easy to get entry to the platforms (without a train ticket) to take photos / video's of the trains? Thanks Iain
If you're driving here you may need to enquire about a platform ticket. But the staff are very easy going with train enthusiasts
Another great video, why not TFW put the class 67 or 769 on the Manchester to Swansea run and can you do some videos at level crossings please?
Thanks very much, hopefully in time they will put some more suitable rolling stock on these routes. I will see what I can do for you
Manchester-Swansea will be a mixture of 5-car (3+2) 197 formations and more 67/Mark 4s/DVT sets once they've entered service.
TfW's 769s are only cleared/signed on the valleys and there was never any intention to use them on long-distance services.
You seem very schooled in these trains, Im impressed, I live in the USA ans this channel of yours is pretty awesome! the dead pigeon kinda bothered me i guess,
I have a very extensive knowledge of most trains running around the UK. Im glad to hear that you like my channel!!
@@Tornado922 yes your channel-has become my new favorite
the TFW at 34:47 leaving for Shrewsbury is not a train. by definition a train is ' a series of connected railway carriages or wagons moved by a locomotive or by integral motors' ..this is clearly not a train;
I once saw 390 104 ironically next to 390 103 at Preston.
That's not irony, that's more of a coincidence.
next week can you go to coleshil parkway
station and the video was good
Hi there, thank you for indirectly featuring a friend and I in your video. Our main feature is just as the Class 390 119 rolls through. If your at Crewe again. come and say "Hi" .
Hello there, you'll have to forgive me but I don't recall seeing you there. But i will keep my eye out for you next time
May I ask why the added ending on the screen? Was it your choice of adding it on there or was it by mistake?
That was because of the editing software that I was having to use for this video
@@Tornado922 Ah!
He was getting jinxed by the announcement
The sad part about that 2 car TfW class 150 is that it's speed is unsuitable for the route. The linespeed through the Valleys is around 90mph but they chucked a train that can max out 75mph. (I might be wrong). Considering what has been observed and what I said, the idea of putting a class 150 on a 4/5hr route is NOT a good idea. A 158 will be better. In fact, once the stadler 231s start running around, the 150s won't need to do such journeys.
The whole TFW network needs a complete revamp it really does. The trains that are being used just aren't suitable for the routes and the volumes of passengers wanting to use them
@@Tornado922 The Welsh Government 2022-2027 Transport Plan (or whatever it's called) document states all the upgrades that are coming, including rolling stock, services, station and line upgrades, station openings and even dates for any line reopening design work. You must surely at least be aware of the brand new trains, including the 197s and 231s that are on testing/training. also the extra 67-hauled Mark 4 sets that are coming. with 5-car sets and unit formations being planned for the North to South services that are currently 175s.
@@RWL2012 aye exactly
Being on a crowded train myself that was cancelled once it got too full last Christmas, from stoke to Manchester. I often wonder why they're not longer. It's like sending a single decker bus on a long distance route.
Thankfully the next time I got the train they'd doubled it up (Though it ended up empty that time).
It's just utterly ridiculous that they think a 2 car train is suitable for such a journey
from my experience, full-length single deckers are adequate for longer distance buses.
@@Tornado922 they don't think it's suitable, they're working with what they've got. once TfW's new trains have entered service, they'll be 5-car sets or unit formations.
@@Tornado922it’s the same with cross country they do a 4 car for Edinburgh to Plymouth
Please go back to cheddinton I liked it there PS can you try to get the trains to give you tones by waving at them
I will be covering Cheddington in a rush hour film later this year, I'm not to sure if I will be able to get any tones but I will see what I can do for you
Who would win?
Tornado992 or Anne (the announcer)
anouther lovely vid dont have much to say except for 1 thing the london northwestern railway trains sre they changing them to the dark green type because ive seen allot more dark green london northwestern railway trains recentlly than i used to so if you no the answer pls do tell me anyway love you bye.
There are currently 3 variants of the London Northwestern Railway livery. The first are the 350s that still have the former London Midland colour scheme to them with the London Northwestern Railway name stuck on the side. The second is the basic London Northwestern Railway livery on the 350/2 units as these units will be going in the not to distant future so it doesn't make sense for the company to put the full colours on there. And the third livery is the full corporate colour scheme for London Northwestern Railway
@@Tornado922oh ok
Hi Jarred. Seen and watched all your videos so far this year and I got to say I've enjoyed every single one including the steam gala but I loved the one at Bury Bolton Street even better. Your Crewe video was a right laugh, you certainly know how to entertain!!!! As always, a good mix of traffic and lots of freight in some of the films. Look forward to your next one at Shrewsbury, should be good.
Thanks very much bud it is greatly appreciated that you continue to support me it really does mean a huge amount! I will be trying to get more diverse with my filming throughout the rest of the year
Transport for Wales have been running clapped out (ex-Cardiff) 150s on Anglo-Welsh services for months now. Most of them are still in the really old Arriva colours and are filthy inside and out. A local transport group (of which I am a member) had a meeting planned with them but Covid scuppered it. Our main gripe was 2 and 3 car trains on long distance routes plus ridiculous overcrowding throughout. Your surprised dialogue at the beginning of your video says it all and thanks for dealing with the subject as you did.
One of the many things that I set out to do on my channel is highlight some of the issues that this country faces with its rail network and infrastructure. Especially when you compare it to the likes of Europe which is so much more advanced than our own.
You say this as if these services aren't about to be formed of brand new 5-car (3+2) 197 formations and extra Mark 4 sets.
@@RWL2012 That's strange, as TfW announced just a few weeks ago to Telford Councillors that they were happy to tell them that their 158 fleet that serves their routes have been "completely refurbished to a higher standard". So I'd like to know where the 5 car and Mark 4s are coming from.
@@MrTudwud TfW is about to put the first of their 148 brand new trains into service (including 77 197s), along with some extra Mark 4 sets they've bought that were made redundant by the cancelled Grand Central open access application.
So it's odd that TfW only mentioned the outgoing 158s, and also it's odd that Tornado922 was acting as if there weren't about to be big changes to TfW's fleet, mostly due to a big order of brand new trains placed in *2018* (so no excuse to not know about it).
And since you randomly mentioned Telford, services on the Shrewsbury-Wolverhampton line will be by TfW 197s and WMR 196s.
@@RWL2012 aye telford only 196s and 197s. it is good TFW are allowed to use the ex grand central sets
Re that Swansea to Manchester Piccadilly service: Don't they plan the amount of carriages according to needs and times? I've been on a 10 carriage train with about 50 people on and a one carriage train from Norwich to Yarmouth - during rush hour. It must've had about 200 passengers on it.
Their usual excuse is that they are using every available train that they can get their hands on at the time............
@@Tornado922 it's a reason, not an excuse - they actually are. they want to run 5-car (3+2) formations of the 197s and the extra Mark 4 sets, but they can't do that until they're in service can they?
If Avanti are getting rid of the 221’s, does that mean the services to Chester and Holyhead are stopping?
I think the 221's are being replaced with the class 800's and the remaining 221's I believe will be going to Cross Country
@@marcdavey cheers :)
@@marcdavey a mix of 805s and 807s
The name plate was covered up on 68013 ?is it a new name.
It does have a new name, but we don't know what it is as of yet
Should do trains at Redditch! Would be an amazing video. One train every 20 minutes going to the same place. _Content_
I'll get right on that.......
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Transport for Wales badly need new trains for those long distance services between Swansea/Cardiff and Manchester, they need something at least 5 cars long like super voyagers or something, I know they have the 67 sets but they only have what 3 or 4 of them? I honestly don't know why they didn't get the 225 sets or the HSTs, they should get the 180s off of East Midlands as well
It really wouldn't do them any harm to get some more suitable rolling stock for the longer journeys that they have that's for sure
@@Tornado922 I can't believe I'm having to keep pointing out that they'll be running 5-car (3+2) formations of the brand new 197s and the extra Mark 4 sets once they've entered service!!!
Great Rocks is indeed 37688
I thought as much
Its like she knew you were coming
Very much so
Did you catch any class 37s
No
Great video mate. I do like Anne she's my favourite announcement but she's something annoying when the speaker gets louder 😂😂😂
Thanks very much bud I'm glad you enjoyed watching this, those announcements were really starting to get on my nerves haha
Crewe seems to have had the same amplifier still running with the slight distortion for years and years.
What an adsolute hovel Crewe is. Needs a complete renovation.
I've been saying that for years
Me Going to Crewe from stoke: I’m going to love crewe
Me arriving: Uhh let’s go back onto the train. Yeh this place is kinda horrible
I do know what you mean
Can you do Cheadle Hulme
I will see what I can do
I cannot believe how dumb Transport for Wales are using 2-car DMUs on the Swansea to Manchester Piccadilly service. Looking forward to your video from Shrewsbury. Best regards Gary.
It really is quite staggering
because that's what they have, until 5-car (3+2) formations of the brand new 197s and the extra Mark 4 sets have entered service.
Slow down to 0.25 when you see a 350 as it sounds like a alarm lol.
That would be one weird alarm haha
It is so annoying the announcement
Anne Announce that the 16:00 iiiiiiiif to Edinburgh annoying
It was doing my head in all afternoon that's for sure
"Shut up"
- Tornado922
I should get that printed
Battersea Park
I'll see what I can do
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Hello
Hi
18:16
I'm going to make a channel about trains I love trains
ive travelled that TFW route many a time its ridiculous and having complained guess what....they dont give a toss
I really don't find that surprising
if they "don't give a toss" then why is that service about to be run by 5-car (3+2) formations of brand new 197s and the extra Mark 4 sets?
@@RWL2012 i meant the safety of squeezing all those people onto two carriages and the reply i had from them was so condescending it was unreal.If they are adding carriages then thats a good thing I agree
At Crewe you were jinxed
hello tornado 922 how I loved your stoke on trent video last weekend keep it up please let me know kinds regards william c adlam cheers I'm looking forward to your reply kinds regards?
Hello there, I'm very glad to hear that you enjoyed that film
The irony of "sorry about the pronounciation" - it's *pronunciation* .
Mate you are to funny when the speaker interrupts you I love you just go shut up
pidgeon ......
*pigeon*
Anna.is old now
Yep
*Anne*
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2 car milford haven class 150 are awful
😂😂😂 shut up to anne
When you kept saying shut up i turned off you drove me mad shame as the vid its self was ok !!!!
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