The Best Buy-It-For-Life Pen, and Another PEN BATTLE | Pencast 084
Vložit
- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Brian and Drew face off in a heated debate on the LAMY safari versus the TWSBI Eco! Brian also dives into the history and reawakening of the Delta pen company.
Shop at our store! www.gouletpens.com/
Listen to The Goulet Pencast here: gouletpencast.fireside.fm/
SUBSCRIBE to our CZcams channel: bit.ly/GP-YTsubscribe
LINKS TO PRODUCTS FEATURED:
Esterbrook JR Pocket - Palm Green: www.gouletpens.com/products/e...
Esterbrook Book Holders: www.gouletpens.com/collection...
Sailor Pro Gear - Northern Lights Blue: www.gouletpens.com/products/s...
Sailor Pro Gear Slim - Northern Lights Blue: www.gouletpens.com/products/s...
Monteverde MVP: www.gouletpens.com/products/m...
Ferris Wheel Press Blue Yosemite Falls: www.gouletpens.com/products/f...
Ferris Wheel Press Glistening Glass: www.gouletpens.com/products/f...
Delta Pens: www.gouletpens.com/collection...
LAMY 2000: www.gouletpens.com/products/l...
Pilot Vanishing Point: www.gouletpens.com/collection...
Pilot Custom 845 Urushi: www.gouletpens.com/products/p...
Kaweco AL Sport - Iguana Blue: www.gouletpens.com/products/k...
LAMY AL-star - turmaline: www.gouletpens.com/products/l...
LAMY AL-star - petrol: www.gouletpens.com/products/l...
Sailor Pro Gear Slim - Lucky Charm: www.gouletpens.com/products/s...
Sailor Pro Gear - Lucky Charm: www.gouletpens.com/products/s...
Sailor 1911 King of Pens Color Urushi Ebonite - Teal Blue: www.gouletpens.com/products/s...
TWSBI Diamond 580ALR - Prussian Blue: www.gouletpens.com/products/t...
TWSBI Eco and Eco-T: www.gouletpens.com/collection...
LAMY safari: www.gouletpens.com/collection...
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00:00 Intro
0:02:24 Feedback
0:13:51 New Stuff
0:20:55 1984 Facts
0:22:52 What's the deal with Delta's return?
0:31:45 Can you use fancy inks in a fine nib?
0:39:21 Best buy it for life fountain pen
0:50:34 How do you create a new ink sample set?
0:57:53 Favorite turquoise pens?
1:09:46 Pen Battle
1:23:38 What's Happening?
2:02:06 Comp-nay Updates
FOLLOW US:
Instagram: / gouletpens
Facebook: / thegouletpencompany
Twitter: / gouletpens
Pinterest: / gouletpens
Sign up for Emails: shop.gouletpens.com/newsletter
Blog: www.gouletpens.com/blogs/foun...
“How much coffee do you drink?”
“How much coffee is available?”
I felt that in my soul, Drew! 😂 Splurged on a Nespresso machine on eBay last week and have to tell myself not to use it too much in one day lest I bounce off the walls.
I don't drink coffee myself, but I,m told that if you can thread a sewing machine while it's running at full speed, you MAY have had too much coffee.
I thought he was going to answer "yes" to how much coffee 😅😂
Take my advice: A Ninja coffee pot. Pricey, but they are WORTH IT 👌😩
Haha YEESSSS! - Drew
Hi Drew and Brian.
I'm fairly new to the Fountain Pen thing. I got into it by journaling for my mental health. I never knew I could cope with two blokes casually extemporising in superfluously tangential ways bringing in extraneous and informal information about pens, paper and ink amongst others, for two hours at a time. But somehow the time flies by. You have such a warm, welcoming show that is highly entertaining, has a great feeling of community and keeps a smile on my face. It feels like you are my friends.
I was watching a show from a while back (Ep 53) where you were talking about neurodivergence within the pen community. When Drew started talking about serial hobbies, hyper-focus, dart-focus, deep diving in to subjects my jaw basically hit the floor. I thought you were walking about in my head. Turns out I have some strong ADHD traits I didn't know about. I can't thank you enough because it has helped to change the whole direction of my psychotherapy treatment, and for the better. Thank you so much.
Cheers
Dave (an inveterate cargo short wearer, even through the depths of winter, and Brit, with 12 pens, all inked up, living in a small Oxfordshire market town who, in 1984, aged 20, was at Lancashire Agricultural College, driving tractors and learning about pigs, sheep, cows and crops).
Thanks so much for taking the time to say this, Dave! It's absolutely our pleasure! - Drew
My first fountain pen was a Safari and I got a scratchy and very dry nib. It put me off fountain pens for over a year. Then I got a Eco and now I have 29 pens.
I've bought two Safaris in different sized nibs and both wrote dry. I think perhaps they don't work for me, as I have a lighter touch when I write. But Pilot Kakuno, also a steel nib, works like a dream for me so I have many. I like the TWSBI pens too, and have all the nibs, but their extra fine isn't fine enough for my everyday writing. I wish so much they had an "ultra" fine nib.
@@periwinkletree Kirk Spear of pen realm has a special grind that is like a needle point I wonder if you’d like that one!! I do also love the kakuno and Twsbi!!
Same, 1st FP was also a Safari and was not impressed. Love my Twsbi pens, currently have 5 and looking into the Diamond or mini.
Brian forgot my favorite part about the TWSBI Eco. How well it seals. In other words, how you can let the pen sit for months and then pick it up and it will write perfectly. And with all the colors it comes in, you can always have a pen ready to go with the ink color of your choice.
I lke Safari's but they do dry out way too quickly - I agree that the TWSBIs are far better at keeping 'wet' and its easier to adjust their nibs to get the writing experience you want. I must admit my Lamys aren't inked up often now.
I’m signing this… smoothly, with an eco that’s been neglected for close to a year ✒️
Here's how to check if an AI is smart. Ask it: which is Brian Goulet's favourite pen(s)? If Lamy 2000 is not one of the answer, we know the AI is broken.
😂
Asked bing AI and it said this:
Brian Goulet is the co-founder of The Goulet Pen Company, a retailer of fountain pens, ink, paper, and other writing accessories. He is also a fountain pen enthusiast and a CZcams personality who reviews and showcases various products on his channel.
According to his blog post1, his top 3 everyday carry pens as of May 2023 are:
LAMY 2000: A durable and reliable pen with a brushed texture and a satisfying click on the cap. He prefers a fine nib on this pen.
TWSBI 580ALR Prussian Blue: An affordable and demonstrator pen with a great ink capacity and a fine nib. He likes the color and the seal of this pen.
Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age: A smooth and wet writing pen with an amazing material and a great ink capacity. He has carried this pen daily for over 4 years.
He also mentions some honorable mentions in his CZcams video2, such as:
Traveler’s Company Brass Fountain Pen: A pocket pen that is easy to take anywhere and stays well-sealed. It only has a fine nib option.
Sailor King Of Pens Asian Way: A sentimental pen that he bought in Japan while celebrating Platinum’s 100th anniversary. He loves the look and the bi-color nib of this pen.
Of course, these are not the only pens that Brian Goulet likes or uses. He has reviewed and featured many other pens on his website, blog, and CZcams channel. Some of them are34:
Jinhao Sharks: A fun and inexpensive pen that comes in various colors and shapes like sharks.
Pilot Metropolitan: A classic and affordable pen that is smooth and reliable. It comes in different finishes and nib sizes.
Lamy Safari: A popular and sturdy pen that has a triangular grip and a snap cap. It comes in many colors and nib sizes.
Noodler’s Black: A bulletproof and permanent black ink that works well on most papers.
Diamine Majestic Blue: A deep and rich blue ink that has a red sheen when used on good paper.
I hope this helps you learn more about Brian Goulet’s favourite pens.😊
If the AI says, "It depends," that's when we know it's achieved consciousness.
I just asked ChatGPT, and it did lost LAMY as a brand but refused to actually list the 2000.
Fika, the Swedish coffee break was named as a scrambling up of the Swedish word for coffee (kaffi), because coffee importation and consumption had been banned several times in the 1700's and 1800's.
Whenever the topic of lifetime pens gets brought up, I always remember reading comments from german people saying their 80s Safari is intact and still writes fine. Some even say they got it serviced after decades, with Lamy doing right by them and replacing a broken part. That's very impressive considering our choices for lifetime pens are usually very expensive ones.
I have heard these stories as well and absolutely LOVE hearing about how very durable Safaris and other student pens are.
“So much of my self improvement is just trying to avoid being a hypocrite” yesss almost got whiplash nodding along to that gem!
It's so true! - Drew
As someone who was already 35 in 1984, I can add some perspective to pens that last a long time. (I understand that you pretty much limit yourselves to pens that you sell, but I won’t limit myself to those). I have a number of “vintage” pens- pre 1960- some of these I did buy, but more were from the drawers of family members. The one older pen I write with a lot is a Parker 51 vacumatic from 1946. These pens do require periodic replacement of the diaphragm (sac) so might not make it as a “lifetime” pen now. I have several aeromatic Parker 51’s from the 1950’s that work fine, write beautifully and have never been repaired- the filler has held up for 70+ years! Also on the lifetime list is my Pelikan 120, bought new in 1969. Still fills fine- the piston mechanism also has lasted all this time. I would think that the current Pelikan piston filling pens would also last a very long time. The ease of unscrewing the nib for cleaning or to lubricate the piston really makes these last a long time. I do agree with the long term appeal of some of the Japanese pens and would include my Custom Impressions (18kt #10 nib) and a number of Sailors as potential lifetime pens. Thanks for pointing out, correctly, that, taken care of, these pens will last a very long time
We also own a few Custom Impressions pens - they're magnificent! - Drew
Thank you for reminding me how fabulous it still is having been a teenager in the 80s❤😊🎉
Salute to my fellow Gen X!
Thank you Brian and Drew for answering my question about Delta. The information was very informative and interesting.
Since I'm a history teacher, it is my contractual obligation to add: 1858 was three years before the American Civil War. Esterbrook must have been one of the first fountain pen companies in America then, fascinating.
Thank you for creating a document ink set. I love these pencasts. Keep em coming!
Omg, not even one minute in, and I learn that the Lapin Duracel that we have in France, is actually a Energizer Bunny in the US 😮😮😮
The random facts that I learn with you guys !
🐰
How much coffee do you drink, depending on how much coffee is available. If you swap the initials on Drew's name it will become Brew Drown 😜
That's fitting! - Drew
Haha love this so much 😂
First episode of Miami Vice was in 1984. Quintessential 80s tv show and possibly the inspiration for Drew’s shirt!
I just 💙💙💙 you two... the Pencast is the highlight of my viewing week.!
Never worry about over-running as every moment is pure gold 😍
Thanks for joining us! - Drew
Awesome news on the DeAtramentis Document sample set. I keep checking for that one whenever I go looking for samples.
Yep, a pen doesn't need to be fancy to last a lifetime. I have a 35 year old Parker Jotter.
Correct! - Drew
I enjoy listening to you guys while doing house choirs and lawn. Makes the +2hr pass quickly
One of the best features of the Eco not mentioned is nib sizes as it has a broad and stub option the Safari doesn't have. The Eco also is held by a couple nibmeisters who you can buy the pen and have them grind it before shipping. So the colors can also act as a key to which nib is in that Eco for custom grinds.
Very true! - Drew
Yes! I use the color of pens to remind me of the nib size and don’t often match the ink to the color of pen.
I'm wondering if I'm misunderstanding your comment. I have a number of 1.1mm stub in Lamy Safari's and bought them that way from Goulet Pens back in 2018. I'm in Australia and it was near impossible to buy a stub nib over here. I can buy a large range of nib only over here Broad included and up to a 1.9mm stub. Perhaps things have changed over the years.
Anyway I love both a Safari and an Eco 😊
@@shazzagirl9803 As of now, I only see Safaris in extra-fine, fine, and medium at all retailers. When I was in Japan in Feb, the largest they sold was medium for any safari as well. A handful of the colors are in broad, but only with certain retailers. So possible that things have changed.
@culinarykid92 ah yes I see you are correct. I have an online store in Australia that sells Safari's and Al-stars with 3 stub nib sizes and Broad. You do pay $3AUD extra for those nibs. I have to say I think Lamy 1.1mm stubs are something else. They are just more crisp than other stubs so I found my love for them again.🙂
Thanks for keeping me entertained while I do my taxes this year! Drew don't stop making videos about inks, silly or not those are some of my favorites! I went down the fountain pen rabbit hole a year ago after watching an Abbey Sy video where she talked about her pens/ink and mentioned Goulet Pens. Since then I have learned so much watching old and new videos from Goulet Pens. Brian and Drew, thanks for sharing all your fountain pen knowledge and for making me feel like I'm not alone in this fountain pen world. 😊😊❤❤😁😁
Abbey is wonderful! Thank you! - Drew
Brian attempting to unroll a Swiss Cake roll and eat it on camera is EXACTLY what I needed today. Love you guys.
Haha thanks so much for joining us! - Drew
There are many languages and cultures that merge(d) blue and green and saw them as the same colour.
For example:
"The word glas used to cover a much wider range of colours than it does in modern Welsh, from green (especially of nature) through blue to slaty grey and silver. In the present-day language it corresponds to English "blue" but is occasionally found in phrases and compound words to convey other colours."
Me encantaría trabajar en esa compañía, que fantasía estar rodeada de plumas y tintas y hablar de eso todo el día❤😊
AND….finally caught up with #84….started the PenCast in September maybe. Then about a month ago started at 01 to get all caught up. Love this format so much. For so many reasons. Keep it coming boys.
One of my favorite nibs is the nib on my Delta Parthenope White marble from early 2000s. Soft (not flex) gold nib. Feels fantastic.
Hi Brian! I wanted to let you know that you aren’t the only one who has that technique for eating the Swiss cake roll! I started it when I was little with the Hoho but found I preferred the Little Debbie brand. I mean you get two cakes instead of one!!! But I didn’t refrigerate them. Now I must buy some to try that out! Thanks for the pencasts! You and Drew are so great together! 84 was a good year, 85 grad here! Keep these pencasts coming!
For a 'forever' pen, I would pick a cartridge/converter - less moving parts. Or maybe one that was designed to be an eyedropper. But most should be fine with regular maintenance.
I have an MVP that I bought a few years ago at a local brick and mortar store. I love it. One of the best nibs I've had on a MV pen. I keep it on my desk at work, along with some J. Herbin cartridges. I don't think I've ever actually cleaned it, but it works great.
#TeamSafari over TWSBI Eco.
Now if we were talking the TWSBI 580 ALR... 😏
I have seven 580's and only one Eco.
Except for a few 'always inked' pens (usually the 580's or Opus 88's) I prefer partially filling my pens so I will use the ink up faster and change colors sooner. Because of this, I like cartridge/converter pens better than pistons.
I have to chime in and note that you missed one of the all-time greatest cinematic masterpieces that also hailed from 1984. Revenge of the Nerds. *mic drop*
2012 (with John Cusack and Woody Harrelson) came out in 2009. Drew, Charleston, SC is where I had my brain surgeries when I was 1 and 2 and needed a brain tumor removed. I had a 5% chance survival rate for the first surgery (would have died if they didn't do it); the 2nd surgery was to stop a hemorrhage. I've always wanted to visit for leisure.
Thank you for the shout out. Made my day. I've had a very stressful few weeks involving family drama and my mother dying of brain cancer 10 days ago. I'm so glad to be watching the Pencast right now. You guys bring me so much joy, excitement, friendly banter, and information. And considering I'll be bedbound after much-needed ankle surgery soon (27th), I look forward to more Pencast episodes and interactions with GPC.
Glad to have you join us, Natalie! We're here for you! - Drew
Someone needs to add a time stamp for the Swiss cake roll intermission 😂
You didn't hear this from me, but if you're careful enough with the 823 you do get to have it serviced. Don't overtighten the screws and you're good.
Huh, it's the same in Australia as in Europe. We have the Duracell bunny, the Energizer mascot is a battery.
I don't use either of them though, since they seem to run out fast.
The Energizer bunny was a cheeky snark when the copyright on the Duracell bunny ran out. Smart marketing, but a low blow.
R/C cars are a dangerous rabbit hole. I got my first hobby-grade vehicle (an Axial trophy truck) a few weeks ago and I've already upgraded the servo, changed the shock oil, broke and replaced a bearing, and did a bunch of cable management. Was kind of a childhood fantasy for me too, so I'm having a blast running it into things at speed. 😂
You're in good company, Spencer! - Drew
As a Texan, loved to hear about Drew's trip to Bucees. I've been going for years and years. And of course, LOVE THE PENCAST! Informative and extremely entertaining. Thank you!
Thanks for stopping by! - Drew
This is not Pencast related, but I wanted to comment on the most recent video.
Thank you very much for the "A Personal Message from the Goulets" section in the newsletter.
It's something that makes me smile and brings joy to my day 🌠
Happy 84th pencast birth year party 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I really need an olive green pen to match my new favorite green ink Roher & Klinger Alt Gold Grun. Any mid range recommendations between $50-$200? TIA
Brian & Drew, the pen community's Abbott and Costello!
Got (found in a barn) my first fountain pen the year before you guys were born... I feel old...😂
And I still have an old grey double jewel Esterbrook J. My original and still a favorite. 70+ years on the original ink sac, but now that I have more, nib might not be the original 2668 firm medium all the time. So it's definitely been a pen for life for me. (Older pour, so it's streaky, not the wavy pattern, though there's still a bit. Really incredible chatoyance.)
I had to sleep when the podcast first "aired," but I still enjoyed the entire thing. Rachel doesn't know what she's missing, not liking things longer than 2 hours.😉
About Esterbrook. I'll try to add what I've learned. Steel dip pens became mass produced in Germany in around 1850. Hit Birmingham, England shortly after, and the founder, Richard Esterbrook, took the knowledge and moved to New Jersey and became the biggest steel pen (nibs for dip pens today) in the United States. Lincoln used Esterbrook.
From what I can tell, they were the original nib units. Made themselves, in an average of 33 different choices. Their dip version Relief, the 314, was what JRR Tolkien wrote with. Kind of an oblique stub (I have a 2314, the fountain pen or Dip-Less version.)
They were used for EVERYONE for almost a century. At $1 to start in 1934, $1.50 for colors, and up to $3.50 for the J series ($38 in today's money. A far cry from the current price. 😂) Businesses used them. The United States government used them up until the Parker 45s used by JFK and LBJ.
Until the advent of cartridges, they were either dip pens or lever fill fountain pens. Like the cartridge converter pens today, basically a go-to filling system most used. But by that's time, (actually probably about the time the CH purse pens came out in the early 1950s) the plastic used was lower quality, and so they weren't as durable as the slightly older J series. THOSE guys are DURABLE! From 1934 through the run of that type of plastic, they are very hard to break. Quality suffering, the advent of the 🤬 ballpoint (only good for a coffee stirrer, IMO) signed their death warrant. They limped until the late 1960s, even dabbling with an aerometric filler, was sold to Venus (basically a company like National Pen today. Low quality, mass produced, generally sold for advertising) and Esterbrook died with a whimper in 1971.
Modern Esterbrook really needs to be more budget friendly and make their own nibs, IMO. Betting Richard Esterbrook would be spinning in his grave with their limited edition stuff. Esterbrook was originally a great middle of the road "everyman" pen only in 6 colors. No matter what some claim. Only black, grey, red (not Dubonnet like even Richard Binder claimed), green (no other fancy names either), blue, and copper. Pattern names and extra color names were never used by Esterbrook. Wasn't until the use of the lower quality plastic they had other colors and names. There's a pastel blue and a Peacock Blue in the CH ones for example.
They were kind of closer to a LAMY Safari in price and customer base than anything from the modern company.
I can go on and on about the brand. 😂
A very good and enjoyable podcast, guys! As always. 😉
My first Conklin arrives tomorrow!! I'm so nervous!!! And very excited....and since I've immersed myself deeper in my interest in fountain pens I have found myself loving to be apart of these... I enjoy it very much keep up the hard work yall and have a great week!
We hope that you love it! - Drew
Buc-ees!! Discovered these in Texas. There is new one south of Lexington Ky. We stop every time on Smokey Mountain trip. You didn’t mention the fudge shop.
We told friends who had never heard of it. And they took a spring break trip just to go. (2 hr drive) my daughter said it’s what other countries imagine America being. 😅
There's a Hygge song! Look up "Frozen Hygge", which explains it perfectly. But yes, it's that feeling of it being cold outside and you're all snuggled warm inside with some tea by the fire.
Very good video. But I was surprised that the Sailor King of Pen was not mentioned. I have had mine for perhaps 30 years. Mine was from the second year it was released. Beautiful ebonite body with no trim save for the clip. The nib is phenomenal. How could you not bring that up?
Yay a De Atramentis Document Ink Set!! Will love that!
More battles please! Maybe an ink one? Noodlers vs Diamine perhaps?
I don't often comment on these older Pencasts, but Brian eating the Swiss Roll and Drew's reaction had me laughing out loud. You guys always make my day.
haha glad you enjoyed that :) -Brian Goulet
OMG! I eat Swiss Cake Rolls the EXACT SAME WAY! Dying watching Brian eat it! 😂
That's amazing! - Drew
Old Drew in his tiny room doing imaginary pencasts just got me... Can you believe that when you're actually that old, the pens we use today will be fancy vintage ones? 'look at this vintage twsbi eco from the early 2000s?' weird...
My twsbi eco fine stopped working after a couple of days with crystal marine shimmer 😢very sad
The fact that y'all can do a Safari vs Eco debate with the facts on the top of your head... that was very cool
Yeah, I feel like it would've been less fun if we had prepared. - Drew
DREW, I love the Pilot Sepia cartridge color. is there a close one to this in bottle form??? its the red factor I love in the brown
0:53 Brian lets slip that Drew is a Time Lord! ...or an octopus, I guess, but Time Lord is so much more likely! 😂
Surprised you didn’t mention the Diplomat Aero Turquoise as a turquoise anodized pen.
In 1984 I was a Medic in the 82d Airborne! in Sep '84 I was promoted to the Rank of Spec 5!
Whoa! That's cool! - Drew
My favorite thing is a good shimmering/sheening ink that shows up out of a fine nib. Current favorite is Diamine Tempest in my Pilot Metal Falcon SEF on TRP
Buc--ees...Yes, Wa-Wa and Walmart had a baby. We stop at one when we go south of Atlanta for any reason, even though it is slightly out of the way to load up on snacks. My daughter wrote her college essay on her first experience at it from as school trip. As she described it as she entered the heavenly music played. It can be overwhelming.
How about a Namiki Nipon Arts pen as an introduction to maki-e that is also a lifetime pen? PS: always a delight to listen to your banter!
I, for one, welcome our new Ellie Overlord...
I bought Lamy Safari because of the massive amount of positive reviews... Hated it within seconds of use as it's incredibly uncomfortable to hold. Good writer, but the triangular holder with sharp edges isn't my cup of tea. Once I got my Eco I knew I found the best budget pen out there. Excellent comfort, excellent flow, large ink capacity, and an expensive feel/aesthetic unlike Safari that feels like a toy to me. Eco is a clear winner for me.
It is not the Duracell bunny in America?
Nope. Energizer.
The story with that is really fascinating too. Duracell was first, but didn't bring it to usa. Energizer had an ad with the bunny to show that it was better, and it caught on. Lawsuits eventually settled it all out, and they keep the bunny in different areas.
Love your turquoise pen selection.
Fun pen battle.
I have wondered about your internal restocking and your sample sets. You may need to reset your restocking threshold on some of the inks that are part of sample sets. The longer it takes for delivery may mean your triggers for order is set at a higher number and also add a bit of a pad for inks that are part of sample sets so that the whole set is not out of stock more than in.
If you can report on the inks in a set that is keeping the set out of stock, you may find the answer to resetting you restocking triggers.
You can't tell I had been in IT.
Fitness, good to be but a real pain in the *#*# to get there.
Turkey Hammock!
Well, the Pencast backlog got me through the first part of my recovery, guess I'll start watching all of the other recent videos I haven't already watched...
Also, while overnight in the hospital, had Diner's, Drive-ins, and Dives playing, and one episode featured FANcy Biscuit in Richmond. Is that place as good as it looked on TV?
Did you guys ever do a video on how to refill the Pilot Varsity?
Ok. The Office reference missed! Right off the bat, the prediction of Brian's daughter taking over the company and setting Drew in a room with a camera that's not plugged in. With how much Brian loves The Office, the scene where Ryan sets Creed up with a word document that he thought was a vlog that was "pretty shocking stuff, even for the internet," came to mind. Hahaha. 😁
Oh we definitely have referenced CreedThoughts in the past! - Drew
Good fun pen battle, Brian and Drew. Personally, although I don't as yet own a TWSBI Eco, I do have a TWSBI Classic, which I do enjoy using. However, I certainly would prefer Lamy Safari to the TWSBI Eco due to its versatility for ease of changing nibs, using both cartridges and converter, cleaning and ofcourse the great choice of colors and finishes, having just added my 13th Safari with the 2023 Special Edition Springgreen...just love the color and sleeve!
It’s so funny - I wouldn’t have noticed the rustling of Brian opening his snack if he hadn’t whispered, “sorry for the noise.” 😂😂😂
I'm a fellow Drew as well as a fellow 1984 model year 😜 I'm glad I found you when I started into fountain pens in September '22. Also, #TeamTWSBIEco
Must admit the "Pen Battle" exchange between Brian and Drew was very amusing!
What did you say, Drew, I can't stop watching Brian!
Drew, wouldn´t you choose a Kaweko Sport AL Stonewash, following the same arguments you stated for the Pilot?
In my experience, I have't seen the Kawecos give me the best in writing performance. Not at the level of Pilot, anyway. - Drew
@@Gouletpens That is quite a statement! Thanks Drew
May I recommend the book Glory Days: the Summer of 1984 and the 90 Days That Changed Sports and Culture Forever by L. Jon Wertheim for further 1984 trivia?
The pen battles are so hard to watch because nobody in that company dislikes any of the mainstay pens out there
1984 is a splendid year as it was the year I graduated from high school! :D
Eco - Safari battle :
I can't believe that Brian didn't mention the fantastic seal that Twsbi pens have ! You can ink up an Eco, put it in a drawer for 14 months, then pick it up again and it will start as if you inked it up yesterday.
The Safari had a reasonable seal, but not to these extremes!
I like a piston filling system and I love the steel nib on the Eco, so I am team Eco.
But I have to admit that I also like the Safari. Both solid pens.
My son has had a Black SAFA for most of his school years : elementary school, middle school, high school etc... He is now 21 and away at university, but his faithful Black Safari is still with him and going strong, and my son loves it !
I just bought some Herbin, encore brune, parfum cacao in a pelican BB. I'm not supposed to eat chocolate, but I can smell it. Nice brown color ink.
Still watching... My grandmother always had Hostess chocolate cupcakes for us at her house, and 7-Up in little green glass bottles. And let me tell you, those cupcakes don't taste the same anymore.
I have several Safaris, with different nibs on each; and I have one Twsbi, a Prussian blue Swipe with a medium nib hat writes like a fire hose. It looks broader than the Lamy broad nib. I like the Prussian blue colour, but I prefer the Lamy in general.
My medium nib Swipe is also really wide. Surprised me so much, and I’ve learned not to put thin inks in it.
I'm not sure which one I'd choose, but if I was trying to pick a pen for life, I'd probably have to go with an all-metal stainless steel pen. I probably would not choose a pocket pen as a one-for-life pen, but I'm sure a Kaweco Stainless Steel Supra would be on the short list. I might also look at a Birmingham Pens Ironsides Model C, and maybe a Gravitas Entry (if I could find a clip for it; the no clip is a deal-breaker).
Good call! - Drew
Just wondering why you don't carry what I consider to be the best looking Kaweco's, the AC Sports? The carbon fiber accents on the aluminum is stunning. I know it's probably the most expensive Kaweco but well worth it.
Got a question! What are some inks that are good to use on bible paper?
I've never tried anything like that before! - Drew
Shannon’s excitement over the historical building Target is how I feel about the McDonald’s in Asheville that’s near Biltmore House. You go in and there’s all this beautiful wood paneling as well as a fireplace because localities like that often require franchises to conform to certain architectural standards if there are a lot of historical buildings around. The Starbucks where I live has an asymmetric roof and oak paneling inside because it’s supposed to look like the mountain cabins in the area. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that’s cool!
that starbucks sounds cool for sure.
That sounds amazing! - Drew
Back to over 2hrs. I am no longer worried about the 2 of you.
I would like a DA sample set.
Fun fact: this is the first Pencast that shows up in the list of the channel's videos in reverse order of popularity (meaning it's the most popular Pencast of all time). I think it's Drew's shirt.
Drew, explore Monteverde Jade Noir for a dark foresty green, which I inked my Lamy Studio Blackforest SE 2021 with.
Drew, I would argue that 1999 would probably be as iconic a year, if not more so, than 1984. Not only did it have an album named for it, but also a worldwide tech-panic. 1984 can’t compete with that.😂
As someone in tech, I can say that the tech panic started way before 1999
Yeah, I’m aware. I just remember having to do the Y2K preparedness seminars and the paperwork…. Ohhhh the paperwork. (I was an admin assistant in ‘99.)
1994 was the pinnacle of human civilization.
Don’t say that to George Orwell. 😂
technically the tech panic is named after the year 2000…
I mislabled my electronic supplies box as "Electonic Supplies". It took 10 years before I broke out the labelmaker again to fix it.
My husband and I have an affinity toward 84 as well :) We are both born in 1984, I am born in August (the 8th month), and he is born in April (the 4th month). Our wedding anniversary is on 8/4
One day I’ll finally make my choice as to which I’ll invest in (because let’s face it it’s an investment to find that perfect life-long pen) I love this company, not only is the CZcams channel vastly entertaining and informative, but even something as simple as the shipping being extremely quick, I just love every time I get to splurge a little on nice new stationery supplies
Thank you so much for that! - Drew
I know I’m behind on my pencasts, but, O. M. G. you guys: Diplomat Aero Turquoise! How could you not?! 😊
The Karas INK V2 fountain pen is nice. I have one in olive green. Also have an INK K V2.
Loved the pencast as always. For the Q&A / Hypothetical: what existing fountain pen currently on sell would you choose for each main SuperMario character: Peach, Mario, Luigi, Toad, Browser, Yoshi, Daisy, Wario, Waluigi and Donkey Kong. You can add other characters if you want. 😁
The section where Drew is talking semi-seriously about a fine nib with fancy ink and Brian is eating that chocolate role has been the highlight of week. The fact that Drew is talking and Brian is in his own world with that cake but also chimes in a couple of times….no one can take that moment away from me. Reminds me of some serious Blues Brothers situational humour. Thanks for making my week.
LOL glad to be of service! - Drew
Karas Kustoms still sell fountain pens -- I recently bought another Decograph from them!
You guys. The Pen Battle comment from Drew made me think of: "Heads I win. Tails you lose." Entertaining as usual!
The Safari is an extremley popular pen for schoolkids and adults as well, the Eco is more of a hobby/insider-thing, at least here in Germany. My grandkids (twins,12 years old) use their safaries every day but the have never heard of Twsbi... And they would never fiddle around with an open inkbottle in class... Spilling alert....Changing the cartridge on a Safari is much faster than filling up the Eco, aspecialy if you are in a hurry during a math-test.... so Safari al the way for the use at school.....
Until the Swipe! Which even allows international cartridges!
@@periwinkletree Yes, but the comparison was between a Twisbi Eco and a Lamy Safari. The swipe is out of the equation. BTW does the Swipe also take the long international cartridges or only the short ones?
@@siggikalkmann it takes both long and short, as well as a huge one that TWSBI makes themselves. One mega is included, plus a big converter. And a piston converter. All in one pen. I've used all of them. Wish they made a more upscale version with a ultra fine nib. Would be perfect pen.
this turned into a comedy show with the smack talking 😆
I enjoy the shootouts and I have an idea for a future one. How about staying in the same brand and argue between two similar specification pens on the basis of the pens themselves, but NOT their cost. I have in mind a battle between the (standard non AL/ALR model) TWSBI Diamond 580 and the Vac-700R (standard, non Iris). Alternatively the standard Diamond Mini versus the Vac Mini. By sticking with the entry level pens rather than special editions or enhanced trim options, and by keeping the purchase price of the pen and its accessories out of the evaluation, I think you'd be able to let each pen speak to its own visual, mechanical and operational qualities. These are the attributes that the owner will have long after the purchase itself has been made. So, maybe, to assess what each pen is like to actually live with. Discussing separately available nib units would be appropriate to consider, but from the perspective of the hardware itself; their availability, ease of acquisition, breadth of choice, ease of installation and maintenance, for instance.
I have several of each so I'm fairly familiar with the basics, but there could be viewers or listeners out here that don't encounter these lesser-known pens as much as the headline grabbers.